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    Quote Originally Posted by larryarroyo View Post
    Thanks, but are you willing to pay for a defective product?
    Depends.

    I just got a second pair of Vasque boots for my kid that had the stitching on both flaps coming off. I decided to pay $10 and have a shoe repair guy fix them to avoid the hassle of returning them etc.

    I would run that rim strip but to each their own.
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    Went out yesterday and hammered on the bike to test the tubeless setup. Had rear at 10 and front at 9. Local trails are a ninja-goat rockfest of baby-head size stuff, and the setup was bulletproof. I intentionally ran harder than I otherwise would, wanted to see if it would burp. Nothing. Same pressure when I got back. Very impressed. BTW, I would run those blue rim strips as well. How much does it really matter to you if the rim strip has a hole? It doesn't need to be airtight. Pay the shipping back if it matters to you, but seems like a waste of good riding time to me. YMMV.

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    I went for a ride last weekend at a local trail in Colorado. I was on my regular bike as my new fat bike had been ordered by my LBS but was not in yet. I finished up my ride and started talking to a guy in the parking area riding a Fatboy. I was asking a lot of questions after he commentated that he was able to ride trails all winter last year. I asked him if he had converted to tubeless and he said yes using FattyStripper. He said he had been running the system for a while and it was holding up great and the easiest system he had used. I am going to give them a go when I switch mine over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
    Will order this tomorrow or on Monday. Question for SimonJ: do I need anything else for the stock Specialized Fatboy Sl 90mm rims? I just picked up a leftover 2015 Fatboy.
    Congrats... the sale that Specialized has on the 2015's is the score of the season. The 2016's ship with wheels that are way, way heavier... like a pound EACH. Huge mistake for Specialized to switch from the excellent SL 90's to the Stout XC 90mm wheelsets. When the shops run out of those... a used 2014 or 2015 will be a much better purchase than a new 2016.

    All you really need to make that wheel tubeless is the latex band if you have a set of tubeless valves laying around. If you choose to go a step further... change out the vinyl rimstrips and save another 20g or so (to do that with SRAM XO1 to XX1, it costs $250... and thats not even rotating weight ;-).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    Question: if the Mulefüt's are such a pain to break the bead on, why would you need the foam backing rods.
    I didn't know the Mulefut's were hard to break the bead on... that sounds like a really small tire issue. The Mulefut wheelset I built up with 4.6 GC's weren't tight at all.

    The foam helps you get a better air seal to the bead of the tire so that it can get seated on the rim easier. I've done a lot of tire/wheel combos with a good floor pump (just to show that it can be done). The foam also helps keep the air in the tire if the bead pushes off the narrow bead shoulder while riding with low pressure. Rims with narrow shoulders tend to roll off and instantly go poof... and then you can't get it seated again without a compressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryarroyo View Post
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    My order arrived last night, and about to install it but when I open the package, the reflective tape was punctured. I talked to Jim and he said to mail it back and going to replace it.
    Hi Larry,

    I did return your messages within 15 minutes from when you sent them on a Friday night. There is more to this story than just one picture. We had a lengthy conversation about the situation. When I said I'd replace the one strip... you said "no, its through both strips". OK, well that's quite clearly a big puncture event because the material is coiled up when mailed. I asked about the package and you said there was no damage to it at all. OK, now we have a mystery that would stump Dick Tracy...

    Like the other member on here pointed out... If it were just one puncture, you could've just put the puncture behind the metal in your rim and not at a cutout.
    The way that those strips are hand-cut, hand-coiled and hand-packed, in addition to 3M's quality control, guarantees that a strip could never go out the door with even one defect like that... much less 20 punctures.

    I asked USPS today if you could just write "RETURN TO SENDER" over your address and they said yes, even if the package was re-taped. When I asked you to do that, you clearly didn't want to do that. I'm glad you did go and try... but "RETURN TO SENDER" will still come back to me without a charge to you. IF the post office determines that the puncture was their fault, they will reimburse all mailing costs. IF they determine that its my fault, I'll get charged. Either way... its no cost to you.

    USPS said they will absolutely cover the damage as part of their Priority Mail insurance. I'm more concerned about how something like that can happen and then making changes to make sure it can't happen again... but I need the strips back to begin the process of tracking down the cause.

    I realize its frustrating... Trust me, as a volunteer, doing this project to support our trail grooming efforts... its pretty time-consuming. I've had a latex band ship with a small defect and that totally could've happened. I didn't inspect both sides of every band because the quality controls by the manufacturer was so high. I now inspect every band before shipping. The BlingStrips have always had 100% inspection simply by the nature of how they have to be cut to the proper size and then hand-coiled and hand-packaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonsJ View Post
    I didn't know the Mulefut's were hard to break the bead on... that sounds like a really small tire issue. The Mulefut wheelset I built up with 4.6 GC's weren't tight at all.

    The foam helps you get a better air seal to the bead of the tire so that it can get seated on the rim easier. I've done a lot of tire/wheel combos with a good floor pump (just to show that it can be done). The foam also helps keep the air in the tire if the bead pushes off the narrow bead shoulder while riding with low pressure. Rims with narrow shoulders tend to roll off and instantly go poof... and then you can't get it seated again without a compressor.

    People report all sorts of difficulty, I'm surprised you missed the thread.

    It took me longer than usual to get the tires off since they do seal well. I did one wrap of Zip tape and after 2 days with no Stans it's still holding air fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonsJ View Post
    I didn't know the Mulefut's were hard to break the bead on... that sounds like a really small tire issue. The Mulefut wheelset I built up with 4.6 GC's weren't tight at all.

    The foam helps you get a better air seal to the bead of the tire so that it can get seated on the rim easier. I've done a lot of tire/wheel combos with a good floor pump (just to show that it can be done). The foam also helps keep the air in the tire if the bead pushes off the narrow bead shoulder while riding with low pressure. Rims with narrow shoulders tend to roll off and instantly go poof... and then you can't get it seated again without a compressor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    People report all sorts of difficulty, I'm surprised you missed the thread.

    It took me longer than usual to get the tires off since they do seal well. I did one wrap of Zip tape and after 2 days with no Stans it's still holding air fine.
    Yep. I missed that thread. I should go read it before continuing to speculate... but isn't that what happens in these discussions anyway? Tires vary a huge amount wrt their bead circumference tolerances. Tape varies a lot in thickness and a lot of people are using multiple wraps of thick gorilla tape... I wonder if the super tight bead issue is a result of all of the above.

    I'm definitely not a Mulefut expert... I set up one set of them but the ones I set up using FattyStripper, foam rods and 4.6" ground controls fit really, really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
    Will order this tomorrow or on Monday. Question for SimonJ: do I need anything else for the stock Specialized Fatboy Sl 90mm rims? I just picked up a leftover 2015 Fatboy.
    Using a 24" QTube and the split tube method I have successfully mounted Ground Controls, Bud and Lou and Snowshoe XL on the SL 90 rims. I don't think you will need anything else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonsJ View Post
    Hi Larry,

    I did return your messages within 15 minutes from when you sent them on a Friday night. There is more to this story than just one picture. We had a lengthy conversation about the situation. When I said I'd replace the one strip... you said "no, its through both strips". OK, well that's quite clearly a big puncture event because the material is coiled up when mailed. I asked about the package and you said there was no damage to it at all. OK, now we have a mystery that would stump Dick Tracy...

    Like the other member on here pointed out... If it were just one puncture, you could've just put the puncture behind the metal in your rim and not at a cutout.
    The way that those strips are hand-cut, hand-coiled and hand-packed, in addition to 3M's quality control, guarantees that a strip could never go out the door with even one defect like that... much less 20 punctures.

    I asked USPS today if you could just write "RETURN TO SENDER" over your address and they said yes, even if the package was re-taped. When I asked you to do that, you clearly didn't want to do that. I'm glad you did go and try... but "RETURN TO SENDER" will still come back to me without a charge to you. IF the post office determines that the puncture was their fault, they will reimburse all mailing costs. IF they determine that its my fault, I'll get charged. Either way... its no cost to you.

    USPS said they will absolutely cover the damage as part of their Priority Mail insurance. I'm more concerned about how something like that can happen and then making changes to make sure it can't happen again... but I need the strips back to begin the process of tracking down the cause.

    I realize its frustrating... Trust me, as a volunteer, doing this project to support our trail grooming efforts... its pretty time-consuming. I've had a latex band ship with a small defect and that totally could've happened. I didn't inspect both sides of every band because the quality controls by the manufacturer was so high. I now inspect every band before shipping. The BlingStrips have always had 100% inspection simply by the nature of how they have to be cut to the proper size and then hand-coiled and hand-packaged.
    Yes, I can do what the other member said about what to do with the punctured strip. My point is, I received and paid for defective product and normal reaction for me as a customer.
    I already went to the post office and explained what they told me which is the other explanation they told you.
    I don't wanna waste more time and gas to go there again and explain what you said.
    Thanks anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryarroyo View Post
    Yes, I can do what the other member said about what to do with the punctured strip. My point is, I received and paid for defective product and normal reaction for me as a customer.
    I already went to the post office and explained what they told me which is the other explanation they told you.
    I don't wanna waste more time and gas to go there again and explain what you said.
    Thanks anyway..
    Clearly you had a lot of discussions about this issue with the supplier...then you turned to move it to a public forum so now you have to deal with all of us and our opinions.

    I feel similar to the others. Use the rim strip and enjoy the new setup. Hide the puncture under a solid part of the rim. You could have been riding around tubeless already...

    The strip clearly has a puncture, it clearly didn't leave FS "factory" like that. So either it happened during shipping...or YOU did it. It looks conspicuously centered in the strip...almost like the exact location a valve stem would go! It looks like someone tried to push a valve stem through backwards. So unless Jim sent you a customer return...

    If you taped the box up the way it was delivered to you and wrote RTS over your address and put it wherever your mail gets delivered, they would have taken it and delivered it back to the sender. Done it plenty of times. There was no need for a trip to the post office, that just added complication.

    Jim seems to be more than reasonable with my experience with him. He seems to be truly trying to develop a product and procedure for a niche market. Look at the prices for this stuff. By the time he loses the transaction fees, there just isn't much profit in these things. I'm sure covering shipping back and forth, as well as the lost product would put this charitable effort firmly in the red for this order.

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    What diameter foam backer rod is needed? I totally missed ordering some with my strippers but can get it locally.

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    looks like a good product to me. I just ordered a set of the fatty strips and valve stems.

    I am going to set up my Jumbo Jim 4.8 tubeless on a set of Mulefut 80mm wheels. Already have a rim strip I like.

    I really like the idea of a solid item, rather than the seams of tape that could fail. Looking forward to the install.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fatty strip that's trimmed is a one time use?
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Burping

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    I intentionally ran harder than I otherwise would, wanted to see if it would burp. Nothing.
    FYI, higher pressures make burping LESS likely. Burping is when the tire bead is pushed inwards, by the ground when cornering or similar. High pressures push the tire outward, so are less likely to burp.

    So, if you want to test burping, run your tire really soft and find some smooth pavement to really carve a turn on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larryarroyo View Post
    Yes, I can do what the other member said about what to do with the punctured strip. My point is, I received and paid for defective product and normal reaction for me as a customer.
    I already went to the post office and explained what they told me which is the other explanation they told you.
    I don't wanna waste more time and gas to go there again and explain what you said.
    Thanks anyway..
    You seam like a peach to deal with! Shit happens, a whole in 3m reflective tape is probably the smallest shit ever though when considering bikes. Just recently I gotta wait a whole two weeks to ride my fatty cause shop sold me Reba dust wipers that don't fit, and now have order the Bluto specific spec. Also aren't you suppose to make a hole in the tape for valves anyways?

    I'll be ordering some Fatty Strippers when I finally get around to studding my snowshoes, don't want to be pulling those suckers off any more then I have to.

    I use to work in the post office part-time when I was in school, the only time they don't do an RTS if the person literally shows up with an open package. Its against the rules, all you gotta do is tape it up before you show up so the clerk can plead ignorance. As long as the person was courteous, and didn't ***** we would RTS anything.

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    Does he only carry one size ? I'd like them for 29+ wheels also

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    Install is pretty simple, but takes a delicate hand to get it smooth Around the rim after spraying the Adhesive on. I always find that the second one goes better than the first. Always the case usually.
    The second one I pulled the strip back and as I went to re wrap the bead and rims edge, I allowed the strip to naturally sit inside the contour of the bead lock. Instead of (as done on the first one) just wrapping in over the bead lock. I had a much easier time fully sealing the tire once installed this way. The front, which was done first, has been leaking a small bit. The rear, has lost none.

    Also, anyone here had to pull, and re install their tires after trimming the strip? One, I'm concerned about having to use levers to remove the tire and puncturing the strip. 2) will I be able to re use the strip as is and seal up well again and again? Or will I need to start over each time?


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    Fatty Stripper tubeless solution?

    Nice product, seems to fit the bill. I will definitely try some fattystripper when time to change tires. Currently on ghetto and working fine but I think this will save some weight. Integrated valve stem on ghetto is nice though.
    Some constructive criticism - don't you think the foam rod will just role over w the bead if the force is great enough to push the bead off the shelf. I understand it's purpose to help initially seat the tire but beyond that I doubt it will help the tire remain seated - only air pressure and /or a solid fixed ridge on the rim can do that. That's my thinking at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjr View Post
    Nice product, seems to fit the bill. I will definitely try some fattystripper when time to change tires. Currently on ghetto and working fine but I think this will save some weight. Integrated valve stem on ghetto is nice though.
    Some constructive criticism - don't you think the foam rod will just role over w the bead if the force is great enough to push the bead off the shelf. I understand it's purpose to help initially seat the tire but beyond that I doubt it will help the tire remain seated - only air pressure and /or a solid fixed ridge on the rim can do that. That's my thinking at least.
    It depends on your rim and tire, whether or not the foam backer is even needed. I did not need to do that and sat the bead immediately. I'm running Bud/Lou combo on Sunringle Mulefüt 80's.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dubinjs View Post
    It depends on your rim and tire, whether or not the foam backer is even needed. I did not need to do that and sat the bead immediately. I'm running Bud/Lou combo on Sunringle Mulefüt 80's.



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    Well obviously...

    Your mule fat rim is designed to be tubeless compatible so essentially doesn't need further mods to get it to work .

    I'm referring to rims that need the foam/ rods/ tape build up mods to get tubeless to work.


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    I have not been successful so far.
    Clownshoes and Dillinger 5 tires.
    I tried using foam backer rod (I used 3/8") and it just squished up between the tire and the sidewall of the rim, keeping the tire bead from seating fully against the rim.
    Aired up easily though.

    I wondered if thinner foam was maybe the solution, so I cut my foam rod in half, and installed one half, with the flat(cut) side down on the rim. I left just enough of a gap to fit the tire bead between the foam and the rim.
    Now it won't air up. The tire is very loose on the rim(easily 1/4" gap) so even using a strap it won't air up.

    So:
    - what size foam rod with Clownshoes?
    -where should the foam be placed? How close to the rim?

    Any other tips?

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    Well, after I wrote this I gave it one more shot trying to inflate it with the half round foam rods in there, and it went!
    Then I checked my mailbox and there was a package from Fattystripper with my corrected blingstrips (I had ordered a mismatched pair, but accidentally got a matched pair) and A surprise pair f foam rods! Thank you very much!
    The rods from Fattystripper are also close to 3/8" but a hair smaller than mine.

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    Hi Simons,

    Just a note that my arrived today and the USPS envelope had two good size holes in it. I did a quick look and miraculously both valve stems were still in the package. I didnt check anything else closely yet. It would appear that they leave you in good shape and the Post Office is having their way with your packages<g>

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    My initial experience with the fatty strippers is positive, it was as easy as setting up a stans rimstrip on a normal rim. "Initially" because I set them up 2 nights ago and haven't had a chance to ride yet, but I've checked them a couple times and they're still solid. I haven't put any sealant in yet. I have a set of unholy rolling darryls and a brand new pair of studded snowshoe xl's. One of the tires aired up with a floor pump, the other was a little more deformed from the packaging and needed a quick burst with a compressor. I reused the existing nylon strip over the spoke holes, I used no foam and a light soaping of the beads. I sprayed the bead area under the strip as per their video with spray adhesive with the intention of attempting to swap tires when spring comes without having to replace the strips, we'll see how well that works.
    The xl's are tubeless ready, and judging by how much effort it took to break the beads on the nates that came off (standing on the tire), I'm debating trying to run without stans. Opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofnone View Post
    I'm debating trying to run without stans. Opinions?
    This is silly. All it takes is one ____ to poke the teeniest hole that you'll never find, forcing you to either keep pumping it up or to stick in a tube. Or, you can run a small amount of sealant and it will find/fix that hole, and the next, and the next, without you ever knowing they were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofnone View Post
    The xl's are tubeless ready, and judging by how much effort it took to break the beads on the nates that came off (standing on the tire), I'm debating trying to run without stans. Opinions?
    Perhaps you will have better luck than me, but I had difficulty getting my Snowshoe XL's/Fattystripper to completely seal even with Stans. With the recommended 2oz, both leaked air through the bead area, despite shaking and riding. I added 2 more ounces per tire and after some more inflating, shaking and riding, they finally appear to be sealed. My buddy had similar issues using the vacuum seal bag method, so I'm guessing it is the Snowshoe XL causing the issue and not the FattyStrippers.
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    Why run without Stans? Do you want to have a non-self sealing tubeless tire?
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    I received my kit yesterday and all is well. No holes in my envelope, but I can see how it happens to some. The envelope is probably not designed for shipping this stuff.

    I'd suggest hitting people up for a couple of extra $$'s for a flat rate cardboard box, or at least use a padded bubble wrap mailer.

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    Mine came in a food saver bag which I assume is what you guys got as well. Thought it was a pretty clever shipping bag for soft items. USPS is usually pretty great about soft mailers when you don't put hard items inside otherwise they have a tendency to poke/rub from the inside out and will eat your profits as you replace damaged shipments. I had to go with boxes only for my ebay store for precisely this reason. At this size they are cheap @<$.50/box right on ebay.

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    Mine came USPS stuffed in a single layer paper envelope that seemed more appropriate for mailing documents than actual hard goods. But hey, it worked, and I will install the kit this weekend

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    Just curious how long it took USPS to deliver once paypal shows shipped. Mine shipped on Monday was hoping to get this week, but no luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilligaff View Post
    Why run without Stans? Do you want to have a non-self sealing tubeless tire?
    Yeah you're right, it was a silly thought.
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    I thought I could jump a creek today since I had the speed. I was wrong. The rear wheel caught a rock completely wrong and I thought I damaged the new wheel. Upon inspection just on the other side, I didn't see a dent, but I did see where the Stans was bubbling, sealing the bead. If I hadn't had it in there I'd have had to walk the mile or so out of the woods. I use 3 oz which adds very little weight. It's worth it.
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    Installed the Fatty Stripper this weekend.

    I ordered the Fatty Stripper and Valves on Sunday, package arrived the following Friday. Contents were packed in a vacuum seal envelope. Appeared well packed to me.

    Decided to install on Sunday. Install was on a set of Mulefut 80mm hoops with 4.8 Jumbo Jim tires. I left the factory rim strip in place. I wiped the rim clean and placed the fatty strip on the tire. No need to get it perfect yet, I just stretched it on and made the sure valve hold was in the proper spot. I then worked the fatty stripper around and centered it up on the wheel. I decided to try the spray elmers method. I would pull back a section about 8" long on one half of the wheel. I sprayed the glue the folded the fatty back. I worked my way all the way around the wheel and then did the other half. When I was done the glue was still tacky, so I could pull up on the strip and recenter it and pull all the wrinkles out. Was really easy.

    I let the glue set a bit while I did the same to the other tire. I then installed the valves. I am not sure which valves he uses, but they are nice valves. The valves are threaded all the way to the rubber grommet. He also includes a slightly oversized plastic washer to put between the rim and valve locknut. This helps thread the lock nut on without running into the rubber grommet. This ensures a good seal.

    I lubed up the bead with Uncle ***** Beadslip (Wow, MTBR blocked out the word, Lets call it Uncle Richard's Beadslip) then placed the tire on the wheel. I did not use any levers. I cringed a bit when I pushed the tire over the latex strip, but those things are pretty strong, no harm done.

    After the tire was on the wheel I pulled the core and gave the tire a blast of air. Tire made a good pop and the bead was set, I would say it took less than 12psi of air to get the tires to seat. I replaced the core and aired it up to 14psi and let it sit while I did the other.

    The other tire mounted just as easily. When I was done both tires were holding air just fine. At this point I pulled the core again and added sealant. I added 5oz of Serfas Tire Medic sealant to each tire. Aired both tires back up to about 14psi and gave them a good shake.

    Next step was to cut off the extra latex on the outside of the wheel. I used a box cutter with a fresh blade. I pulled the latex tight and cut it right at the rim line with the tip of the blade just touching the tire. This was very easy to do. I can see a bit of a red line in the bead if I look at it just right. It is very minor and barely noticeable.

    I rode my bike into work with the new Tubeless today and zero pressure has been lost, I have also not seen and sealant seaping out. This was a very easy and fool proof install.

    I would gladly buy this product again. Very satisfied customer.

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    I'm doing mine tomorrow, but not using glue, I don't see the point in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by db3266 View Post
    I'm doing mine tomorrow, but not using glue, I don't see the point in it?
    Point is to be able to re-use them.

    Set up a pair on a Fatboy the other day super easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claimed4all View Post
    Installed the Fatty Stripper this weekend. Install was on a set of Mulefut 80mm hoops with 4.8 Jumbo Jim tires.
    MuleFut rims are tubeless ready. You don't need Fatty Strippers to run them tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    MuleFut rims are tubeless ready. You don't need Fatty Strippers to run them tubeless.
    Mulefut are tubeless ready, but I still have to cover the spoke holes and the machine holes at the edge of the bead shelf. I did not want to use tape as it has seams. I wanted a seamless install that was light, so Fatty Stripper was the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIke N Gear View Post
    Point is to be able to re-use them.

    Set up a pair on a Fatboy the other day super easy.
    Ok thanks.

    Setting mine up on DT Swiss BR710's. I trial fitted the tyres over the rims today, the GC's are much tighter on the rim than on the standard Spesh rims. So tight, that I think I will be able to inflate with a floor pump!

    When I change tyres, I'll use a new set of strippers, so not using glue.

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    I used the fattystrippers on my wife's Fatboy SE. I had to spray soapy water and use a strap around the tire to seat the bead. I used a floor pump to seat the bead once I had the strap around the tire. 3 oz of Stan's with spinning and shaking did not seal the tires overnight. I put 3 more oz of Stan's in and laid the tires/wheels on their sides with a bucket to distribute the Stan's along the sidewalls. Hopefully, this will get er done. 3 oz or less in a 4.6" tire does not seem like much sealant to me. 3oz is recommended for a standard 29er tire. I can't imagine how 3oz is going to give you any flat protection in a 4.6" tire.

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    Did a Framed Wolftrax wheels yesterday with a foam backer, I'm not sure the foam backer was necessary. Went together really quickly and inflated so awesomely. We couldn't get the second wheels bead between the foam and rim and we didn't have petroleum jelly with us (at work). we sprayed on some soapy water and decided to just push on it while adding air. Boom! Right on with just a slight leak that was remedied with a little more air. Added some Orange seal subzero, inflated and it was good. Incredibly easy. I am not sure the foam backer was even necessary.

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    Don't use latex and petroleum jelly - you'll get pregnant. Seriously, the two don't play well together.
    I would advise not taking my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Don't use latex and petroleum jelly - you'll get pregnant. Seriously, the two don't play well together.
    Yeah there seems to be another industry that says those are a bad combo. But, thanks to them, you can get a nice lubricant at the drugstore that is guaranteed safe with latex.

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    Blingstrips are delicate

    I tried to hang up my bike today in the garage. Missed a bit and instead of the rim being all the way inside the hook the end of the hook slipped into a cutout. After some cursing I got it off and sure enough, the blingstrip is torn and the latex strip was bulging out a tiny bit.
    This was with a nice 3/8" wide, rubber covered hook with a ball end, nothing sharp or pointy.

    I think the issue is that hey are so stiff,the don't just deform around a pressure point.

    So, the moral of the story is that you might want to add extra protection to the blingstrip if you are likely to be in remote areas and/or doing a lot of bushwhacking.

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    Wow all this talk starting w/ title of this thread, lubricants, latex, pregnancy and now needing an extra layer of protection. I better start using privacy mode on my browser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by claimed4all View Post
    Mulefut are tubeless ready, but I still have to cover the spoke holes and the machine holes at the edge of the bead shelf. I did not want to use tape as it has seams. I wanted a seamless install that was light, so Fatty Stripper was the answer.
    I felt the exact same! I set my Mulefut 80's up the same way.


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    Easy install great service

    Installed two days ago on my Farley 7 with stock mulefuts. Breaking the bead on the mulefuts was the hardest part of the process. Put 40 cc Stans in front. Running the rear without sealant just to see if it will keep the air. I am pleased with how easy this process is. I aired up the tires with a floor pump without any drama. I'll put 30ccs Stans in the rear after xmass

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    My Nates on Mulefüts held air fine without Stans. I added 3 oz for protection anyway. Can't go out without some protection, otherwise bad things can happen.
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    This thread needs a lot more pics!

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