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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Anyone done this yet?
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    Don't think so

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    Hmmm- we might have to do something about that...
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    I pickup my fatboy today and have a Bluto on order. Just need to figure out the front hub thing. I'm hoping to just re-lace the stock rim to a 15x150 hub, but the options are limited at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I pickup my fatboy today and have a Bluto on order. Just need to figure out the front hub thing. I'm hoping to just re-lace the stock rim to a 15x150 hub, but the options are limited at the moment.
    I asked if you could do that, and I believe the answer was "no".

    Please keep us updated though, I'd love to do this myself.

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    I found a hub, so my wheel builder buddy is going to take a look and see what is possible. I will post up results!
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    Why wouldn't it be possible?
    I just finished lacing a Rolling Darryl to a Salsa 150mm hub and trial fitted it into a Bluto.
    I also put the Bluto over my Clownshoe and Bud combo. Looks like it'll take that too. I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to put your rim in there.
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    It is going to take new spokes, but it looks to be a simple enough project!
    Tonight is the maided voyage in stock form, and it will help me determine if a suspension fork is needed.
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    I have a Bluto on order and am stopping by the LBS today to see if they can order this:

    http://www.jbi.bike/web/searchResult...fkawe45d9drh=4

    I believe it's about $70 msrp, sealed bearings and no shimming/ spacing of rotor/ off-dishing needed. In terms of lacing, can't imagine that there's anything different to it than re-lacing a new hub in a regular wheel? Probably the trickiest part is going to be figuring out the spoke length...
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    I heard the Origin8 hub is pretty decent!!

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Ordered one today!


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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Looking forward to your results!

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Just saw a FB post of a fatboy with bluto. Looks awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    Sweet! Anyone know what travel that fork is set at?

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    too bad the bluto isn't sub 600 grams. the tides have turned. some fatbikes just got heavier:P

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Yep- I'd love to know more- 80 or 100 or...? And was the original wheel/ rim a problem or just building a new wheel, so start from scratch... Handling, weight.... So many questions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I heard the Origin8 hub is pretty decent!!
    You know exactly which of the Origin8 hubs to use for the Bluto?
    I've been on their website, and couldn't really find any 150 mm

    Ordered a Bluto a few days ago, and first realized today that i need a new front hub. i actually was doing a bit of research before i ordered the Bluto, and ran into this Specialized Bicycle Components

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKongKion View Post
    You know exactly which of the Origin8 hubs to use for the Bluto?
    I've been on their website, and couldn't really find any 150 mm

    Ordered a Bluto a few days ago, and first realized today that i need a new front hub. i actually was doing a bit of research before i ordered the Bluto, and ran into this Specialized Bicycle Components
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    ^You won't find it on their website by just browsing around, but your LBS can find it if they have an account with them. $45 for your LBS, about $70 MSRP. There were 9 left in stock at the Florida warehouse on Thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    ^You won't find it on their website by just browsing around, but your LBS can find it if they have an account with them. $45 for your LBS, about $70 MSRP. There were 9 left in stock at the Florida warehouse on Thursday.
    Thanks!
    I don't think my LBS have an account, but i will definitely ask them.

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    Bluto on My Fatboy Expert .....

    Finally installed the i9 fat hubs and the RS BLUTO!!
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    fine looking ride!^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    too bad the bluto isn't sub 600 grams. the tides have turned. some fatbikes just got heavier:P

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    One you add front suspension to a fatty, the extra weight means nothing. Best trade-off you can make.

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    VERY nice.
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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Wow- that expert looks awesome with all the red blingy bits.

    Here's mine- just got her finished up last night. Can't wait to get her on the trail! 100mm bluto.





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    Are you guys keeping or selling the stock fork? I would think there would be some demand for a the stock carbon fork.
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    Keep the fork they are beautifully made carbon steerer and all

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    Nice!

    Three questions:

    1. What made you go with a Nate?
    2. What made you pick 100? I believe 80 kept the original geo closer to the original
    3. It's been 4 hours... Where's the ride report???

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    1. I haven't ridden the gc on the dirt but trust the Nate- plus I had the Nate and it was easier to set it up on the new wheel than taking the gc off (busy week), so, in part, laziness.

    2. My trails are pretty chunky/ tech and I've yet to ride a bike and say "I wish it had less travel". I have a ht ss 29er with a 140 on it. After today's ride, I'll be investigating moving it to 120.

    3. I actually didn't think I'd get out today, but I travel for the next week and not getting on it was gonna be too much to take. It was amazing. It climbed really well and was super stable in low-speed, techy rock climbs. I cleaned an entire climb where I often dab once or twice. I'm not one of those people that thinks fatbikes are the only bikes, but it f'n railed on the downhill. Now, it's still a hard tail (albeit one with a huge back end that grips turns like Velcro), and you have to ride it like one, but I was incredibly impressed. Still need to dial in on pressure and such. I think I was most surprised that it handled naturally at high speed. I had a 907 prior to this and did not care for riding it in the dirt. I will happily be taking this bike on the dirt regularly- no self steer, nothing (front tire around 15psi?).




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    damn you people with the positive Bluto reports. I need one that says "totally not worth it" to keep my wallet in my pocket.

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    Jisch, I'm with you. People keep posting this stuff and if it doesn't stop soon I am going to be around $800 more poor than I already am! This one is the worst, same color as my fatboy and a positive review. Ugh you guys are killing me!

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    Sorry fellas . Seriously, I was skeptical. With my 907 and no front squish, it was brutal on our local trails. Awesome in the snow, but just not fun in the dirt, plus I regularly had problems with self-steer and more than once couldn't keep my line- fortunately no injuries, but a few close calls. I had just written off that fatbikes had their place, but that place, for me, was in the snow.

    Now this is something completely different. I got the Fatboy because of reviews about how it handled- especially handled in the dirt, but it didn't arrive until the winter was over. I built it up, took it on one mellow dirt ride to feel things out, and hung it up in the garage for winter to come.

    Then came Bluto... again, this will not be my do-it-all bike, but if it were 15 years ago and I was still living out of my truck with my one bike to do it all, this would be it. Hands down. If you ride a HT and are looking for a bike that can slay year 'round, the Fatboy with the Bluto is it.

    Anyone know if a 100 Bluto can be extended out to 120?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post

    2. My trails are pretty chunky/ tech and I've yet to ride a bike and say "I wish it had less travel". I have a ht ss 29er with a 140 on it. After today's ride, I'll be investigating moving it to 120.
    Did you do anything to check for frame contact? I thought the concern with 100 and 120mm bluto and the fatboy was the tire contacting the frame at full compression.

    As for changing the stroke, I thought that was done with internal spacers / stops, but I could be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardingsan View Post
    Did you do anything to check for frame contact? I thought the concern with 100 and 120mm bluto and the fatboy was the tire contacting the frame at full compression.

    As for changing the stroke, I thought that was done with internal spacers / stops, but I could be mistaken.
    If a 80mm won't hit a 100mm or a 120mm won't either, I would say if the crown clears one should be good with tire clearance.

    The travel is changed with a new air shaft but I'm not sure if a 100mm can go to a 120mm or not.

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    al, why different front wheel?

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    ^I had to get a new front hub (the stock one is a 135 qr)- I picked up the Rolling Daryl rim used and laced up the 150 hub (origin8) instead of breaking down the FatBoy wheel. It gives me more options down the road (I've begun building frames and dream of building a fat frame some day).


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    FatBoy with Bluto?-fatty.jpgHere's my Fatboy. Love it! I have it set up with 100mm travel and three air volume reducer "tokens" because it was blowing through the travel too quickly and I wanted the spring rate to ramp up faster. It weighs 31 lbs 9oz, so fun to ride, it totally shreds. I took the grip shift off because I kept miss shifting when throwing down. I like the dropper post, soon I want get one when I switch out the crank to off set the weight difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    damn you people with the positive Bluto reports. I need one that says "totally not worth it" to keep my wallet in my pocket.
    Yeah what he said ^^!!

    Oh, umm, ok so... About those Tektro stoppers and replacement options. SRAM hooked me up with a set of the new Guide RSC brakes on Sunday Wow! You know what makes a fantastic bike part? When you ride with total confidence and don't think about that part Now I NEED a Bluto so I can take full advantage of the best brakes I've ever used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    (I've begun building frames and dream of building a fat frame some day).

    my dream as well. not gonna happen anytime soon with new baby around.
    have fun, i might be getting fatboy too, still deciding vs blizzard or chiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyRay View Post
    Here's my Fatboy. Love it! I have it set up with 100mm travel and three air volume reducer "tokens" because it was blowing through the travel too quickly and I wanted the spring rate to ramp up faster. It weighs 31 lbs 9oz, so fun to ride, it totally shreds. I took the grip shift off because I kept miss shifting when throwing down. I like the dropper post, soon I want get one when I switch out the crank to off set the weight difference
    Trying to locate the tokens, are they the same as the Pike? Rockshox sure did us a favor but good intel on this fork is hard to come by yet.

    Edit: I see the tokens are black not red like the Pikes, where the heck do I find them now?

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    whats your final weight with dropper and bluto?

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    I guess I don't understand the 100 or 120 hitting your frame under compression- shouldn't be any different than an 80.

    As for stoppers- finally went shimano a year ago and never looked back. They now adorn every bike I own. Even the deore line is way better than any other brakes I've had over the years.


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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    ^i haven't checked total weight yet, but I know the bluto was about 2lbs heavier than the stock fork.

    Stock with race and compression nut


    Bluto with race and star nut



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    Re: FatBoy with Bluto?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyRay View Post
    I have it set up with 100mm travel and three air volume reducer "tokens" because it was blowing through the travel too quickly and I wanted the spring rate to ramp up faster.
    What were you doing when you bottomed out the shock? Drops? Or just riding fast in rough terrain?

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    Just ordered one. Should be here next week. Now the hub. Is it safe to say that an i9 with adapter works perfect or should I consider another hub?

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    I've done wheels with an I9 hub and the new Salsa hub. Both work fine.
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    Hey thanks alshead for the weight info. I kept justifying NOT buying a bluto because it would add 4 lbs to my bike. Now i realize it would only be about 2lbs. You guys are KILLING MY WALLET!!!! I am about one more positive review and a paycheck away form ordering one.

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Man you all are killing me! I have to get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgt View Post
    Hey thanks alshead for the weight info. I kept justifying NOT buying a bluto because it would add 4 lbs to my bike. Now i realize it would only be about 2lbs. You guys are KILLING MY WALLET!!!! I am about one more positive review and a paycheck away form ordering one.
    Yup. Then you go tubeless and add a carbon seatpost and your closer to stock weight. :-)

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    Now whats the word with the lower bearing on the headtube. Can someone explain why we need that for bluto? Doesnt the bike have one in the flush setup? Another user recommended to get a cane creek lower race to remedy the issue. Im just curious why.

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    ^not totally sure what you're alluding to, but if you get a bluto, you need a new crown race- not a new bearing, just a race. The race on the stock carbon fork is "built in" to the fork and can't be removed. I went to my LBS and picked up an FSA crown race for a tapered fork (campy style)- they had one in a drawer and got it for less than $10 I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    ^not totally sure what you're alluding to, but if you get a bluto, you need a new crown race- not a new bearing, just a race. The race on the stock carbon fork is "built in" to the fork and can't be removed. I went to my LBS and picked up an FSA crown race for a tapered fork (campy style)- they had one in a drawer and got it for less than $10 I think.
    I worded that all wrong didn't I.... Lmao. Thanks for the clarification. Noob learning here lol

    LBS got a cane creek race for the bluto swap. Thanks.

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    So reading some of the last posts I'm confused. I've got a FatBoy, I've got a Bluto, but have not made the swap yet.

    Was just planning on taking the race off the FatBoy fork and putting on the Bluto, but sounds like the fork has the race built in.

    A call to FSA did not help and I've got a part number that is wrong or doesn't exist. Google hasn't helped.

    Will a Cane Creek 1.5 crown race work fine?

    Can someone point me to an online source where I can quickly buy whatever I need?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJones View Post
    So reading some of the last posts I'm confused. I've got a FatBoy, I've got a Bluto, but have not made the swap yet.

    Was just planning on taking the race off the FatBoy fork and putting on the Bluto, but sounds like the fork has the race built in.

    A call to FSA did not help and I've got a part number that is wrong or doesn't exist. Google hasn't helped.

    Will a Cane Creek 1.5 crown race work fine?

    Can someone point me to an online source where I can quickly buy whatever I need?

    Thanks!
    Hi,

    i just got a FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS 45° # H6088, aluminum black.

    It just looks like the race build in the Fact Carbon fork.

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    Wow so you guys did 100mm! I was going to comply with the specialized recommendation for 80mm but now I'm wondering whether its advice that is supposed to be ignored. I'd much prefer 100mm but I was concerned geometry is too messed up.

    What is the axle to crown length on the 100 with and without some sag? Can one of you with the 100 do that measurement for me?

    If I measured right the stock fork is about 18.5".

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    I'm trying to decide between the 100 or 120 model. I had an 80 but sold it. I'd prefer to slacken it out a tad and run wider bars and a shorter stem. I'm leaning 120.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I'm trying to decide between the 100 or 120 model. I had an 80 but sold it. I'd prefer to slacken it out a tad and run wider bars and a shorter stem. I'm leaning 120.
    Might as well go 120 and lower it if needed.

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    If the Bluto is like the other newer RS forks, you need to change the airspring to lower it. Not as easy as dropping in a spacer anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    If the Bluto is like the other newer RS forks, you need to change the airspring to lower it. Not as easy as dropping in a spacer anymore.
    I'm sorry I thought this was the fat forum where we are not afraid to get our hands dirty
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    So if you get the 100mm you can't just change the air shaft to get it to 120? I'm 2 maybe 3 more positive reviews from going there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    So if you get the 100mm you can't just change the air shaft to get it to 120? I'm 2 maybe 3 more positive reviews from going there.
    This I don't know, in the past with most other forks no but this one could be different.

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    I picked up a 100. Figured I can always pull it back if need be. But i have a feeling it will be perfectly fine. Next week we should be on it. Waiting for a few more parts. I'll report once shes all back together.

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    Looking forward to your review evercycling.

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    If the review is positive, please find a way to block it from my view. :-D

    If you could post your parts list that would be helpful (or hurtful depending on if you're me or my checkbook).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    If the review is positive, please find a way to block it from my view. :-D

    If you could post your parts list that would be helpful (or hurtful depending on if you're me or my checkbook).
    Haha. Lol. Ill make sure to block ya. Lmao


    So far here is next weeks parts install


    Rockshox Bluto 100mm black
    I9 front hub for bluto with adapter blue
    Cane creek race
    Truvative Noir T40 CF handles 30mm rise blue
    Niner CF RDO seatpost blue
    Tape Tubeless setup with yellow pvc rim tape

    Only thing left for now is pedals which im having a real hard time choosing.

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    I dont mind the labor, it's the $100 cost of the air shaft to make it happen I'd like to avoid. Would rather but that money toward a Growler holder for the frame!
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    everycycling - I presume from the fact there is no rim in your parts list you are using the Specialized rim on the new build? I think if I go this route I will look to build a brand new wheel so I can easily swap from suspended to rigid.

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    Specialized has the Fatboy rim listed on the parts site, but no price or inventory listed yet. It would be nice to be able to buy one and build a matching rim for people that want to swap forks back and forth.
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    I was just thinking that, have to call a dealer and see if its possible to buy the rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    everycycling - I presume from the fact there is no rim in your parts list you are using the Specialized rim on the new build? I think if I go this route I will look to build a brand new wheel so I can easily swap from suspended to rigid.
    Yeah for right now Im just going to stick to suspended and feel it out. I will definitely build out another wheel later and attach the rigid fork and just swap whenever I feel like it.

    I did get the remote lockout for the BLUTO so we'll see how that goes.

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    That's a good idea, spread the spend out by buying a rim later. Although then you have to leave two rims. Hmmmm

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    Why 2? Im just going to use the old hub and will have to get 1 rim, rim tape, spokes & tire.

    Im just swapping the front at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Lynch View Post
    I dont mind the labor, it's the $100 cost of the air shaft to make it happen I'd like to avoid. Would rather but that money toward a Growler holder for the frame!
    $28 from Universal

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    ok, So I'm minutes away from the 100mm and a salsa hub purchase... either I'll build a new wheel or rebuild the old specialized rim.

    Anyone have axle to crown dimension on bluto?

    I found...
    511 A2C - 100mm
    491 A2C - 80mm

    here
    http://salsacycles.com/files/tech/Ro...structions.pdf


    thoughts on hub too?
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    * 226 grams without skewer; 291 grams w/ skewer

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    ah ha confirmed a2c here
    Bluto fork clearance pics

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    Awesome to see so many folks building them up or researching the different options.

    I think these questions have been answered, but for my own understanding and to summarize:

    1) You need a new crown race. FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS 45° # H6088, aluminum black will work.
    2) The bike rides GREAT with it at 100. Personally looking to extend to 120.
    3) My understanding is that you need the SID air shaft to extend to 120. Someone said this is around $100. Any confirmation on this BDundee? Part Number?

    Finally got to weigh my build. Comes in at 32lbs, 5oz. Not bad with a Bluto and dropper post (Stock unless otherwise noted):

    Comp Fatboy in Medium
    Bluto
    Front Wheel: Holy Rolling Daryl laced to Origin8 150 hub with DT Swiss Comps
    Nate on front
    Both wheels set up tubeless with leading edge tape and Orange Seal sub-zero sealant.
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    Thomson 50mm Stem
    Easton Havoc Carbon riser bars
    Ergon grips (trimmed to fit with twisters).
    XO twist shifters
    Command Post (older version)

    Still coming: trade out Tektro brakes with Shimano Deores (on bench waiting to be installed), Convert drivetrain to 1x10 with OneUp 42T cog and Absolute Black 28t front ring (currently on another bike).

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    spoke length

    sorry dumb question, I found spoke length calculator.

    applied dimensions for salsa hub and specialized rim

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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    You need a new crown race. FSA Orbit 1.5 ZS 45° # H6088, aluminum black will work.
    hmm, looking here
    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=10605

    one of these?

    Orbit Xtreme-Pro 1.5"

    Item#:10605-67311
    Mfg#:160-5463
    UPC:400310019905
    EAN:400310019905
    Other #s:HD4573FS5269

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    100mm bluto + Salsa hub

    ordered!


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    Awesome! Cant wait to see more bluto builds!

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    Ordered a 80mm Bluto for my incoming Expert. LBS recieved the Fasno hub (red anodized) last thursday. just waiting on bike to arrive (eta beginning to mid august) then wait for the Bluto to arrive (eta late august, early september)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hans2vt View Post
    sorry dumb question, I found spoke length calculator.

    applied dimensions for salsa hub and specialized rim

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    Hi hans,

    to calculate the spoke lenght, you must use the proper values.

    Best way is to messure by yourself, here are my values.

    Specialized Fatbike rim ERD : 538 mm (spoke ends at beginning of nipple slot)
    0,25 mm washers under the nippels
    Spoke holes are 20 mm offset
    You can correct this by using "centered" rim holes and "pushing" in the flange distance 20 mm, in your spoke calculator. Like left flange distance 24 mm, right flange distance 25 mm.

    - projekt

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    ^what projekt said. Make sure you enter that the spoke offset is 20mm.

    I find FreeSpoke to be a great resource/ calculator. Use the "Full Calculator" since most fat bike stuff isn't in the database (though Surly rims are). It'll ask you everything you need to know.

    Freespoke

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    Been reading up on fat bikes because I was thinking about buying one ....here I was thinking the FB's were simple fun to ride bikes that don't need suspenssion because of the huge tires.... guess not....lol at me being so dumb.............thread saved me a grand...thanks
    The bike is never to heavy, you are just to WEAK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by projekt View Post
    Hi hans,

    to calculate the spoke lenght, you must use the proper values.

    Best way is to messure by yourself, here are my values.

    Specialized Fatbike rim ERD : 538 mm (spoke ends at beginning of nipple slot)
    0,25 mm washers under the nippels
    Spoke holes are 20 mm offset
    You can correct this by using "centered" rim holes and "pushing" in the flange distance 20 mm, in your spoke calculator. Like left flange distance 24 mm, right flange distance 25 mm.

    - projekt
    thanks projekt for the help!!! I was missing a lot.

    for ERD I found 534.2mm on the web. I googled "erd specialized fatboy rim". Should I use that? You had 538 which is pretty close I guess. Thoughts?

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    Fatboy specifications and compatibility guide

    SPECIFICATIONS AND COMPATIBILITY INFORMATION FOR FATBOY ... ERD (effective rim diameter): 534.2mm. Specialized Ground Control tire: 26 x 4.6”.

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    Just make sure when u order the air shaft that it is for a 29 NOT a 26 SID

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    Quote Originally Posted by hans2vt View Post

    Fatboy specifications and compatibility guide

    SPECIFICATIONS AND COMPATIBILITY INFORMATION FOR FATBOY ... ERD (effective rim diameter): 534.2mm. Specialized Ground Control tire: 26 x 4.6”.
    Hans,

    everyone has his own way to messure the ERD, so i guess you may messure it yourself. That way you know whome to blame, when you ordered the wrong spoke length :-)

    Because the Nipple holes are offset on the rim - the corresponding hole is 40 mm offset, you can not exactly messure the ERD of the rim. My best bet was 538 mm.

    My Fatboy has had 0.25 mm steel washers under the nipples, i replaced them with 0.5 mm brass washers. The existence & thickness of the washers must be included in the ERD.

    Next thing to decide is spoke placement in the nippels. It's about a 2 mm difference of ERD if the spokeend just touches the bottom of the nipple slot, or fills the nipple to its end. In the first scenario you could use spokes that are 1 mm longer than calculated. In the second scenario, just the opposit.

    As you see, it all depends on your methode of messuring the ERD.

    But the is a way to sort it out. Just do all your messuring and calculate the Fatboy wheels. For 3-cross lacing front wheel spoke lenght is 259 mm, rear too. If you got these values, your messuring and calculation methode is ok.

    - projekt

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    Placed my order with Universal today, now the wait begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Placed my order with Universal today, now the wait begins.
    That a boy!! Now don't go beating on it because mass produced frames can't take it

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    That was one of the most blatant trolls I've seen - zero logic, constantly changing "point". Weird.

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    Bahhh I was almost done my new bluto... But the stock brake hose is too short. I guess I need to now find a longer hose! My junk Hayes disk brakes hose has different fittings so that won't work. Stock hose length is 26 but I need like 31 inches it looks like.

    Well maybe tomorrow or the next I'll finally have it done!

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    I guess I need to now find a longer hose!
    You're not alone, my friend.

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    bb7. just sayin....

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    Got my fork from brown Santa this morning, I'm building the wheel while on conference calls today. Hope to be riding it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post

    Here's mine- just got her finished up last night. Can't wait to get her on the trail! 100mm bluto.


    question... when you put tektro brake on the fork, did you have the thick part of the adaptor on top or bottom? The bosses on the fork are quite different than stock fork... and I can't figure out what direction to install the brake adaptor. (which side is up and which side is down - or the thick vs. thin side - or the "long bolt vs. short bolt side.

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    Re: FatBoy with Bluto?

    Just got it done, had to put a longer brake hose on it, but everything went very well. I used a threaded rod to install the star fangled nut, it worked great, much better than trying to knock it on from the top. Need to get it in the woods!

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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    Nice job Jisch! Pic?

    Can you see my question a FE posts up about brake mounting? Even send a pic of your brake mounted?

    Mine is done minus a front brake. Waiting for kit to build a longer brake hose.





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    I took it on a lap on the pump track it felt good, though a bit stiff at 100psi, I dropped some air to 90psi, we'll see how that goes. I'm 170 or so without my pack on.

    Funny about the brake adapter as I took a picture before I took mine apart so I'd remember which way to install it. Crappy pic, and mine has Shimano brakes, but it worked for me:


    Here's the final product:

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    How much for the Bluto? How much for a wheel?

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