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    Many times I judge the success and enjoyment of a ride by how few, if any, times I have to put a foot down, much less walk. Might even be faster to get off in places, but I enjoy the challenge of staying on. I like to *ride* the bike.
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    Maybe we need a separate fat bike low dab thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixed View Post
    Maybe we need a separate fat bike low dab thread?
    Oh come on Man.
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    So if I am pushing my bike through a couple of feet of snow does each step count as a dab? Oh and have I mentioned how stupid this is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    So if I am pushing my bike through a couple of feet of snow does each step count as a dab?
    not if you have slowshoes on.

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    Let's say you have two Bluto forks, a 100 mm and an 80 mm. Can you convert the 100 to 80 by switching the contents of the air side?
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    Fixed: yes. I don't understand the dab controversy, it's just something I do for fun.

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    I'm thinking about getting a Fatboy, and I'm torn between an Expert with a few upgrades, or the Pro with the Bluto. I plan on riding this only in the winter on snowpacked trails (I love my Epic WC way too much to ride anything else if there isn't snow). Shock or rigid for winter riding?
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    What kind of snow? If you're riding on footpacked trails that are bumpy, a fork is probably a good idea, if you're riding on groomed trails then a fork is probably overkill. I rode with the carbon fork over the last winter, it was great, but I'll probably leave my Bluto on until I think it's not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jisch View Post
    Fixed: yes. I don't understand the dab controversy, it's just something I do for fun.
    and i don't understand the whole strava phenomenon. strava=way bigger(smaller) dick waving than to dab or not to dab........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixed View Post
    Let's say you have two Bluto forks, a 100 mm and an 80 mm. Can you convert the 100 to 80 by switching the contents of the air side?
    Yes. You could take the air shaft out of the 80 and exchange it for the air shaft in the 100.
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    Bluto follow up

    Bought my Fatboy in July and rode it about a month with the carbon fork. Loved it, but thought it could be even better with Bluto, as I ride on some pretty rough single track.

    Installed the 100 mm Bluto. Did 3 rides on it and decided I didn't like the steering. It raised the head tube up too much, slackening the steering angle, and taking weight off the front tire. As a result, on steep climbs, it was harder to keep the front tire in contact and get good steering grip, and was too much work to fight it. Downhill was very plush, though.

    A week ago I converted the 100 mm to 80 mm. All you have to do is add 2 spacers and replace the air tube plunger with a shorter one. Took about a hour doing it, and this was the first time I've ever been inside a suspension fork.

    80 mm is far better. Specialized knows what they are talking about. The steering angle feels normal, and the steering on climbs is now no different than the rigid fork. It's a signficant difference from 100 mm. Works fantastic. Can't say I notice any difference on descents, either. Still plows right over rocks, ruts, roots, with barely a hint of a bump and keeps the tire in better contact with the ground than the rigid fork. So, for anyone looking at this choice, I would really recommend the 80 mm for the Fatboy.
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    My Fatboy came with the 80mm Bluto. I've had a 100mm air shaft in the shopping cart for a while now. I've been satisfied with the 80mm but can never seem to get any decent preload squish on it. I've played with the pressure to points where it was bottoming out riding moderate trails.

    I always wonder if I'm missing out not having the 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    My Fatboy came with the 80mm Bluto. I've had a 100mm air shaft in the shopping cart for a while now. I've been satisfied with the 80mm but can never seem to get any decent preload squish on it. I've played with the pressure to points where it was bottoming out riding moderate trails.

    I always wonder if I'm missing out not having the 100.
    I can get my sag set either, about 10% max and anything after that it get to squishy. Seems to run fine though.

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    What if you tried removing 1 of the 4 "tokens"? Would have more air volume? Could easily just put it back in.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    My Fatboy came with the 80mm Bluto. I've had a 100mm air shaft in the shopping cart for a while now. I've been satisfied with the 80mm but can never seem to get any decent preload squish on it. I've played with the pressure to points where it was bottoming out riding moderate trails.

    I always wonder if I'm missing out not having the 100.
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    Glad I'm not the only one that is seeing this. Very pleased with the performance too but imagine there has to be some skimming going on a higher speeds?

    Just watched a Rock Shox vid and it seems this may be the solution. Care to share how many tokens you all are running with the 80?

    Thanks!

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    Just picked my bike up at LBS and noticed the geometry was basically bringing the nose too high so I ask them to order some spacers and air tube to bring it down to 80 mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Kunkel View Post
    Glad I'm not the only one that is seeing this. Very pleased with the performance too but imagine there has to be some skimming going on a higher speeds?

    Just watched a Rock Shox vid and it seems this may be the solution. Care to share how many tokens you all are running with the 80?

    Thanks!
    I'm running 4 for 80 mm.

    Not sure what the effect would be by removing 1. The air volume will be larger, but still the piston could not completely use that much travel. Need a physics guy to weigh in.
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    Thanks, Fixed.

    I tried it today to no avail. Tried bleeding off the stanchion as described in another recent thread started by bdundee too. Looks like I need to live with it or try the 100 and adjust the tokens if I feel the need.

    Don't think I'll really change anything though. Maybe on a long winter night I'll play with it more.

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    Beware Universal Cycles' listing for the 100mm air shaft. Actually all of the Bluto ones except the 80mm where Bluto is listed separately.

    They are NOT the right Sram p/n as confirmed in a chat with UC. UC says they are going to revise their website.

    Just sayin'

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    Huh. I bought this one:

    Rock Shox SoloAir Travel Adjustment Air Shafts
    - 26" Reba/Sid-B/Bluto (120mm)

    Item #: 67483-159891
    Our Price: $27.00

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    I haven't installed it yet. Is this not the right shaft?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Huh. I bought this one:

    Rock Shox SoloAir Travel Adjustment Air Shafts
    - 26" Reba/Sid-B/Bluto (120mm)

    Item #: 67483-159891
    Our Price: $27.00

    Universal Cycles -- Rock Shox SoloAir Travel Adjustment Air Shafts

    I haven't installed it yet. Is this not the right shaft?
    No it is not the right Sram p/n. Here's the chat log:

    Chat Content:
    JasonE: Welcome to our real-time support chat. How can I help you today?
    Steve: I was looking to purchase the 100mm air shaft for my Bluto fork. On SRAMs site they list the p/n as 11.4018.021.007 On your site you list the 100mm airshaft as mfg p/n 11.4018.021.007 Can you tell me if this is the same?
    JasonE: give me a couple minutes here
    Steve: Sorry, Sram lists this as 11.4018.026.015
    JasonE: I dont' see that part on our stie
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    the one ending in .015 i do not see
    they are different
    Steve: Your p/n 67483-159889 is listed as the 100mm Bluto air shaft. There is only one Bluto so it must be a typo on your site?
    JasonE: let me check
    my distributor lists this as a 100m travel
    Steve: Do they list it as fitting the Bluto as you have on your site though?
    JasonE: it does not, i'll have my web guy fix now, sorry
    Steve: OK Thanks.

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    Crap. Has anyone confirmed this? Anyone bought one of these air shafts and tried to install it?

    Or am I confused and it's the right shaft, just the wrong part number listed?
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    Worst part is no one has my 100mm in stock. There is a site that has 120's though.

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    I have to add air to my Bluto every 3rd or 4th ride - bummer. Gotta get on with Universal and see how to handle it.

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    Keep us posted. I won't have time to deal with them today, but will plan on calling tomorrow and see how they're going to handle it. I know I could find this myself, but, like I said, I'm slammed.

    Can anyone point to some links of the SRAM PN for the 120 shaft? Links to where it's available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post

    Can anyone point to some links of the SRAM PN for the 120 shaft? Links to where it's available?
    RockShox Bluto Air Shaft Solo Air 120mm travel 26" A1 - AEBike.com


    And WOW! They got mine now too. Glad you asked...

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    Crazy. I ordered the one I have over a month ago. I thought for sure that I got it from Universal, but I've not been able to find my order confirmation anywhere and Universal can't find it either. Anyway, it appears that even though I ordered the SID/ Bluto 120 shaft, what I received is the Revelation Air Shaft. 11.4018.022.003

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    Here's a question? Will the crown of the bluto clear the down tube of the Fatboy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHSAD View Post
    Here's a question? Will the crown of the bluto clear the down tube of the Fatboy?
    Yes.. and some

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    Great because mine just came in and I didn't think to check...

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    I am doing my bluto homework. I see Hope now have a front 135mm thru 15mm hub.
    Will I be able to use the spacer kit with this.
    I am in oz and can only find what I need at Universal, so want to get right the first time.
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    Got my Fat Boy in July. Put the Bluto on in September, but have swapped it out with the carbon fork several times, trying to decide which I like better. Also tried Lou's on both ends.

    Have to say, I like the stock fork and GCs better. Don't really think the suspension fork helps for maybe 98% of the riding, even rough trails. The GCs have plenty of traction and roll better, too. Might try the Lou's on snow this winter, though.
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    FatBoy with Bluto?

    In winter mode.

    I try not to think the sign is mocking me.


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    I need to get on of these for my Fatboy, the jarring is killing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRS1FREAK View Post
    I need to get on of these for my Fatboy, the jarring is killing me.
    One of the best upgrade you'll make on your fatboy.. Even though spesh recommends 80mm, go with what you want.. Your bike and you're the one riding it..

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    looks good! Same colors here.

    I need all the help I can get unfortunately. I had a 80 - 120 mm on my NRS, I'd definitely want more than 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRS1FREAK View Post
    looks good! Same colors here.

    I need all the help I can get unfortunately. I had a 80 - 120 mm on my NRS, I'd definitely want more than 80.
    Like i said, your bike.. I am fine with my 80mm for where i ride here in san diego.. Others have 100mm and seem to be happy with it..

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    For those of you that have been riding the Bluto in cold winter weather: does the shock slow down much in the cold or did they wisely use a light-weight oil for the cold? I used to hate how much my RockShox slowed down on my AM bike (which by the way does not seem to be as a big of an issue on my Lefty fork...)

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    I have a 120 on mine- Colorado mountains- love it.

    As for Cold Weather- you'll want to search mtbr for the "Bluto Tuning Thread." Never mind- did it for you: Bluto Tuning Thread

    Before it got cold, I rebuilt mine with slick honey grease instead of the military grease they recommend (many/ most are doing this on rebuild, including folks at Borealis). The lowers only have 10ml of 15wt. Not very much fluid, and not really affecting damping- mostly just to keep the lowers lubricated. The upper damper side has 106ml of 5wt, so pretty light fluid so far. I think the Slick Honey is the biggest improvement and in 20 degree temps, the fork was pretty active.
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    alshead - thanks for the info and the link. I'll give it a try stock when my Fatboy Pro comes in, but I'm guessing Slick Honey is in my future.

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    For those who have done the Bluto/Hope upgrade were you able to use the stock spokes and nipples with the Hope Hub? I read that you could use them with the Salsa hub but I like the idea of the Hope so that I can convert back to the carbon fork if needed.
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    I know this has been asked and answered, but my hangover is apparently wrecking my Google skills..

    Just ordered a 100MM bluto for my Fatboy. Which headset do I need again? There's an FSA one out there iirc, but I just can't seem to find it.

    Edit: Found it (murphy's law, 5 minutes after I post this..) It's just a race:

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or View Post
    Like i said, your bike.. I am fine with my 80mm for where i ride here in san diego.. Others have 100mm and seem to be happy with it..
    Did a good test of the 80mm bluto today (more me than the bike) and I can tell I'm holding the bike back quite a bit. lol... LOVED IT! No regrets at all!

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    Any suggestions for an alternate crown race to the FSA Orbit Extreme Pro 1.5? I'm having difficulties sourcing one right now. The usual paces appear to be out of stock.

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    I think you can just buy a lower integrated 1.5 bearing from Cane Creek that comes with the crown race, and the crown race itself has a nice seal on it to help keep dirt and grime out.

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    So here's a question.

    You can get a Motobecane 2015 Bullet Fat Bike Frameset w/120mm Bluto from BikesDirect for $699. They also have a 150Thru/190QR wheelset that will work with the Fatboy for $299.
    No, it's not the *best* wheelset out there, but for a grand total of $999 for the frame/fork and an extra wheelset, it's tempting. Especially if I can sell the unused Motobecane frame for a couple hundo.

    This seems like a good way to go, no? Or am I missing something here...?

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    You can get a Bluto with a hub for around $800. I guess the BD way gets you a crappy wheelset and a frame on top of that. Personally the hassle of selling and the fact that I wouldn't use the wheelset makes that less of a "deal", but that's just me.

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    Im actually considering that BD frame/Bluto. I have a friend who wants a Bluto, so I can sell him the Bluto, recover a big chunk, put the stock carbon fork from my Fatboy on the BD frame and build it up for my wife. I could just get the Boris X5, but without the tapered headtube I cant use my Carbon fork on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawidan View Post
    For those who have done the Bluto/Hope upgrade were you able to use the stock spokes and nipples with the Hope Hub? I read that you could use them with the Salsa hub but I like the idea of the Hope so that I can convert back to the carbon fork if needed.
    Yes. I replaced stock 135mm hub with Hope 150mm using same spokes and nipples. Pay attention to the lacing pattern, it's 3 cross.

    I don't build wheels very often and I always struggle with tightness and truing. I tightened down the spokes "tight", but not to the point where I had to put any muscle into it. Fortunately, this wheel didn't give me any issues truing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NogginBuster View Post
    Any suggestions for an alternate crown race to the FSA Orbit Extreme Pro 1.5? I'm having difficulties sourcing one right now. The usual paces appear to be out of stock.
    Any 1.5 crown race should work. You could always but a new headset too but that's overkill.

    I used this Cane Crake 110 & 40 Series Alloy 1.5" Crown Race (52/40).

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    Quote Originally Posted by okcorral0 View Post
    Any 1.5 crown race should work. You could always but a new headset too but that's overkill.

    I used this Cane Crake 110 & 40 Series Alloy 1.5" Crown Race (52/40).

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    Got it, Many thanks.

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    Do you know if there is any adapter that would make my stock 135 hub (Specialized Fatboy, 2014) compatible with Bluto (150 mm)? Would the Hauck Bicycles Hope Bluto adapter work?
    And one more complication: accidentally I ordered a through axle Bluto while my original hub is quick release. Does it mean that no adapter would help?
    The stock hub being this one:
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    You can't run a Specialized 135mm hub with a Bluto, the Hauck adapters will not work. Also there is no QR version of that fork, they only make it with a TA. You will need to buy a new hub and get your wheel relaced (or buy a whole new wheel) to run that fork. You will likely have to extend the front brake hose too.

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    There is no QR Bluto, only 15mm thru axle.
    End caps wont work either because the Specialized hub wont convert for a thru axle.
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    Crap... Thx a lot for the help! Now I gotta find that 150x15 hub. And someone to buy those Hauck adapters, since I was unable to find a way to contact those guys to ship it back...

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    Which hub would you recommend for relacing the stock wheel?

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    If you are considering going back and forth between carbon fork and Bluto, I would get a Hope hub and keep your adapters to convert it to 135. I bought a Salsa hub, which works fine, but to change back to the carbon fork I have to swap wheels too, which means I will probably never do it.

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    After riding for almost two weeks in various conditions I've ended up feeling that a fork + extra tire pressure is the way to go. My only concern is that Bluto is not designed to function below -10 C. I've read somewhere that there's going to be (or already is) an upgrade kit to make it cold resistant (as far as I remember, the problem was with the seals). I've had an hour ride at -20 C here in Moscow, and a 70 km one at -10 C.
    To put it short, I do realize I won't go back to rigid. I'd rather buy some carbon rims

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    Check out the "Bluto Tuning" thread, people have been posting their low temp rides and the impact on the Bluto. Mostly there seems to be very few problems. I had mine go flat during a ride this week at -10C, I pumped it up and rode at -2C today with no problems.

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    I also think there should be no problems if one takes into account that pressure inside the fork changes as the temperature drops (just as it does inside the wheels).

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    I took my Fatboy up to a local trail that we normally ride 6" bikes on. It had several inches of snow and I was shocked how fast you can descend on a fatbike with a Bluto. The snow was not an issue as all as far as traction goes, and the combination of the fork and big tires just ate up all the roots, rocks and drops. I switched bikes with a buddy who has an s-works Enduro 650b, and whomever was on the Enduro lagged far behind. At the end the the trail he said it was a "revelation" and he wants to order one up ASAP! HE went from "Why did you buy that thing" to "Dude, I gotta get me one NOW!"
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    Yay! I've found a Hope Pro 2 EVO Fatsno 150x15 mm (32h) front hub in a local shop. I guess that perfectly fits the idea of relacing my stock wheel.

    Btw, what does the "fatsno" stand for? There's a non-fatsno version which is a bit cheaper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by qBot View Post
    Yay! I've found a Hope Pro 2 EVO Fatsno 150x15 mm (32h) front hub in a local shop. I guess that perfectly fits the idea of relacing my stock wheel.

    Btw, what does the "fatsno" stand for? There's a non-fatsno version which is a bit cheaper...
    I had thought that all of the fatbike ones were called Fatsno (Fat Snow?) to differentiate them from the reg MTB Evos.
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    I've got a few weeks of riding in with the Bluto and I'm really amazed at how much it transforms the Fatboy. I can now charge rough spots without worrying about getting bounced off obstacles. It also really helps to maintain speed over repetitive small bumps, like icy foot paths. I haven't experienced lockout or noticeable stiffness riding down to 0 degrees F.

    One thing I have developed is a travel preference. I started with the 100mm and it worked well in specific areas such as downhills and rough sections, however it was very disappointing on hill climbs, cornering, and in deep snow. Unless I was standing up the front end always felt light and it would wash out more frequently on corners. I reluctantly switched to the 80mm air shaft as I didn't want to lose the extra travel. I'm glad I did though as it really brought the more planted feel back to the bike. My front end seems to grip better and I can keep my weight rearward on climbs without seesawing the bars. i may try switching back to the 100mm for summer use as it wasn't overly difficult, but for winter I definitely like the 80mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okcorral0 View Post
    Any 1.5 crown race should work. You could always but a new headset too but that's overkill.

    I used this Cane Crake 110 & 40 Series Alloy 1.5" Crown Race (52/40).

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    Just did mine - this is the race that I used as well. Worked perfectly - thanks for the heads up!
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    I have had an adaptor kit made up and the stock wheel works no problem, local machinist made it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockd View Post
    I have had an adaptor kit made up and the stock wheel works no problem, local machinist made it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    I've got a few weeks of riding in with the Bluto and I'm really amazed at how much it transforms the Fatboy. I can now charge rough spots without worrying about getting bounced off obstacles. It also really helps to maintain speed over repetitive small bumps, like icy foot paths. I haven't experienced lockout or noticeable stiffness riding down to 0 degrees F.

    One thing I have developed is a travel preference. I started with the 100mm and it worked well in specific areas such as downhills and rough sections, however it was very disappointing on hill climbs, cornering, and in deep snow. Unless I was standing up the front end always felt light and it would wash out more frequently on corners. I reluctantly switched to the 80mm air shaft as I didn't want to lose the extra travel. I'm glad I did though as it really brought the more planted feel back to the bike. My front end seems to grip better and I can keep my weight rearward on climbs without seesawing the bars. i may try switching back to the 100mm for summer use as it wasn't overly difficult, but for winter I definitely like the 80mm.
    After much debate, I got the 100. The Bluto itself improves the bike immensely. I feel nice and balanced, but I'm only running a half spacer below a flipped down stem.

    What cockpit deep did you have with the 100? Did you change it when you went to the 80?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester6578 View Post
    After much debate, I got the 100. The Bluto itself improves the bike immensely. I feel nice and balanced, but I'm only running a half spacer below a flipped down stem.

    What cockpit deep did you have with the 100? Did you change it when you went to the 80?

    Thanks!
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    I initially had a longer 20 degree rise stem and 30mm spacers with the 100mm Bluto and it was horrid, no weight on the front wheel. I swapped back to the stock stem flipped and it helped some, but I would end up with a sore back after 5 miles or so. When I went 80mm, I went back to an upright stock stem and that has proven to be about right for me.
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    I second that !

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    Revolution Components these guys are close to me in Christchurch, New Zealand and send them an email. I will try to upload a pic

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    Hey guys
    Just about to pull the trigger on getting a fatso 135 thru hub shipped from bike24 to Australia today.

    Now I'm getting the Bluto 80mm locally but what size adaptors do I buy off bike25 to use both forks?

    Thanks
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    If anyone wants to sell the carbon fork (Large) for $150 send me an email!
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    So you can't use a hope 135mm hub relaced to standard wheel, for carbon fatboy fork and Bluto with adaptors?

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    Hi buddy
    wonder if you could help me.

    I am after a Bluto fork for my Fatboy and was wondering if you used a fatso 135mm hub and adores so you could use it with either fork is this possible?


    I live in Australia and they can get me a Bluto for $600 aus, but I will order a hope hub from bike24.

    Any help would be great.

    Thanks

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    Bluto needs a 150mm hub...you can't adapt a 135mm hub to be 150mm...think about where the brake disc would be (in addition to other things).

    I prefer 65mm rims in the summer, and I prefer rigid fork in the winter, so I'm just building a separate wheelset for the Bluto season. I realize how silly a suggestion that is when you ask about 135 to 150mm conversion, but I suppose your only other option is to find another rigid fork that fits a 150mm hub? Then you can get different endcaps at least if it is QR and the Bluto TA.
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    Hello, my bike shop told me you can get the hope hub with adapters that will work for both the 135 and 150. I think there is a brake disc adapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Bluto needs a 150mm hub...you can't adapt a 135mm hub to be 150mm...think about where the brake disc would be (in addition to other things).

    I prefer 65mm rims in the summer, and I prefer rigid fork in the winter, so I'm just building a separate wheelset for the Bluto season. I realize how silly a suggestion that is when you ask about 135 to 150mm conversion, but I suppose your only other option is to find another rigid fork that fits a 150mm hub? Then you can get different endcaps at least if it is QR and the Bluto TA.
    I have a 135 Fatsno converted to 150 and I can switch it back and for between 135 forks and Bluto in a matter of minutes. Pretty common actually.

    Edit: I believe Hope actually makes a kit to do this very thing now.

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    Dundee, now that's the answer I'm after :-)

    Any idea why kit I would buy from here?

    .bike24.com/1.php?content=13&search=Fatso]Bike24 - Search

    Sorry not enough posts to actually put a link up, but they sell all the fatso hubs and adaptors in here

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    Hope Fatsno 15x150mm Front Conversion Kit in Tree Fort Bikes Front Hub Conversion Kit (cat1453)

    I don't see it on Bike24, someone does give a factory part number on the link I posted, not sure if it is right though. There is also an aftermarket company that makes a kit but I would try to find the Hope version if you could first.

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    I actually just came here to acknowledge my earlier mistake, as I just found this:

    Hope Bluto Spacers. Brake Adapter Included. — Hauck Bicycles
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    I was wondering when you would come back :-)

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    Hauck don't ship to Australia :-(

    Anyone know where else I got buy this kit from please.

    Thanks

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    Bugger it, I'm ordering a 150mm fatso hope hub and will one day build another wheel up if I decide to use the carbon fork again.

    So spokes for a 150mm hope hub is my next question?

    What size have people been ordering for a hope 150?

    Thanks for your patients :-)

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    Once you dial in your Bluto, I cant see going back to the Carbon fork, put in on the list here and sell it for $200, all the FatBoy SE owners want em.... I put a salsa 150 hub on mine knowing I was not going back. And the $200 was nice as well
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    Yeah dude your prob right.
    I demo a Fatboy pro before I brought the comp version and loved the forks.

    My Carpol tunnel has flared up again, that's why after a few months of riding rigid bikes is taking its toll, and a back seat.

    I shall hang fork in garage as a nice piece of art.

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    So, i finally decided to spend money on a Bluto for my Fatboy SE.
    What is the best options when i comes to the hub? And will i need anything besides the hub and the fork? Yeah, spokes, i know....But anything else?

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    I'm gonna put my carbon fork from sale in the next couple of weeks.

    I live in Australia, so your obviously have to pay postage.:-)

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    Can anyone assist me with this?

    I purchased my bluto with a Origin8 150x15 hub. I'm wondering if I can reuse the old spokes with the stock rim or if I should buy new spokes and which ones should I buy (length, type, brand, etc...). I can't seem to find a definitive answer. I tried using the calculator online at freespoke but I couldn't find the dimensions for the hub.

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    You will need new spokes. See page 4 of this thread for some discussion on ERD. You'll need the Flange diameter for the Origin8 hub as well. Fortunately (for you), I happen to have the same hub (though I laced it to a Holy Rolling Darryl).

    Origin8 150 hub specs:

    OLD: 150mm
    Center to Flange: 48mm
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    Thanks! I think that is what I needed.

    EDIT: Went with a Hope hub as the price wasn't all that better when you had to ad spokes. Got it for 103 on Jenson USA using a coupon and active junky discount.
    Last edited by j35u5fr34k; 03-18-2015 at 11:43 AM. Reason: Went with different hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j35u5fr34k View Post
    Thanks! I think that is what I needed.

    EDIT: Went with a Hope hub as the price wasn't all that better when you had to ad spokes. Got it for 103 on Jenson USA using a coupon and active junky discount.
    FWIW, I was able to reuse my spokes on both wheels when I switched to Hope hubs.
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    Woohhhhooooo, picked up my Bluto from shop today.

    But for the life of me can't find a lower race to fit into new Bluto.

    Any pointers on where to order off internet?

    Can't find them on chain reaction/wiggle.

    Any help would be sweet.

    Thanks

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    FSA makes one for about $10

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    Everyone is saying this one or the FSA one but I couldn't find the FSA model anywhere except one store in the UK.

    http://www.amazon.com/Cane-Creek-110...e+creek+1.5%22

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    Yeah I know about that, that's why I'm asking about where to buy.
    That one you linked to is the top 40mm one

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    Quote Originally Posted by JASESPESH View Post
    Yeah I know about that, that's why I'm asking about where to buy.
    That one you linked to is the top 40mm one
    Read the whole thread or search. Any 1.5" race will work. 40mm is 1.5 inches and would be the lower race. The Bluto is tapered from 1-1/8 to 1-1/2 inches.

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    Oops my bad.

    Thanks

    Edit.... You sure any 1.5 race will work?
    thought there were different sorts???

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