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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    Well, in keeping with the under $1,000 theme of this thread.
    I got a Boris yesterday. Found it on Craigslist. Lightly used (125ish) miles with a bunch of extras for $804.00 . That's what I had in my wallet. Its a 15" so it fits my wife perfect and me good enough to ride until I get the bike I want in my size which I found is 17". But, that bike is lots more than 1k$.
    I'm VERY happy to find this bike, at this time. And saved some money
    You may well like the Boris enough to buy another for yourself. I'll be buying a 2nd X9 for myself(Tacoma and Minnesota) and an X7 for my wife in a 13". Totally pleased with the bike for single track and snow. Was having a very hard time trying to figure out if I wanted front suspension, but after having spent the time through the rock and roots, I figured there was no sense in it, especially after riding my full suspension and a new trek 29er full suspension through the same terrain.
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    Mini Trail; thanks for mentioning the used market. That stuck with me and the day before we went to town I searched Craigslist, Anchorage. The Boris I got was on the first page and as we would be I town in the morning. I contacted the seller. Its the first time in 7 years that everything fell into place. There actually were other fairly good deals on some Pugsleysand a KHS 3000 . But they were all 19" and larger frames. And I feel good about already having a fatty that my wife can comfortably ride.
    Now that I'm more used to it . The Boris doesn't look quite as Bodatious as it did. But when we both first saw it our mouths about dropped open. It looked HUGE compared to what we were used to.
    Thanks again everyone for all the helpful tips and advice.
    Now that I've had my hands on a KHS 3000 with 4.8" Snowshoes on it I have something to gauge the Boris by. So far tho even the Boris is revolutionary in comparison to all our bikes previously ridden. And as I haven't ridden in a long time I don't notice it being slow. Seems to truck right along to me. :-)

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    Well, had a Boris in a larger frame size been available around here I would have bought it. But. The ordering and waiting just is too stressful for me.
    So I got a Cogburn CB4 in Realtree Snow Camo finish. Size L/XL. It was almost double the $1K , But it is just perfect for my needs. This winter I'll find out if I need wider tires than the 4.5" wide that the CB4 can run. Atm it has the oem Surly Nate tires on it in non holed Rollin Daryl rims. Which I prefer. One less thing that can potentially go wrong. I got this bike from an lbs and they have a great service plan. I plan on putting white bits on it. Handlebars, grips, stem, seat post and considering white On One Floaters that I will stud, if I find the rubber they r made from will take the cold. The country side around here will get tracked up with snow go tracks through out the winter so there will be no end to the fat bike trails I can ride. And my goal is to have a bike that a coyote can look at but not see. At least not be spooked by.

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    Maybe we were lucky but we bought 2 brand new Mukuks for $1300 each from a local dealer that had leftover stock..

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    Hello Glen, I'm about like you but just a tad older. 61, 250 with a bad left wheel that needs either to be replaced or long term, intense PT. I'll find out in a week.
    Just got into the Fat Bike thing and loving it..hopefully I'll never ride at minus 60 but it does get cool here in Wisconsin.

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    Nick; I don't "plan" on riding in that cold a weather. But, you know what can happen to plans :-).
    Which Mukluk did u get? . I'm guessing the 3 . I wanted to try one out but the only color the shop had was plum. So I got the Cogburn instead. However, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get a Muk3 at some point. I'de love to have a Mukluk ( Walrus Hide and Fat) that had room to spare with the 2xl Snowshoes.
    That's not a reality yet so I'm wanting to see what comes out in 2016. 1300$ is a steal of a deal on a Mukluk. Congratulations.
    I just spin along at between 40 and 60 rpm and keep the resistance on the pedals light to moderate and don't over do it. This past weeks arborist work set me back a bit with my left knee. But spinning along on my bike makes it feel a lot better than any otc pain meds does. !!

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    Thanks....yes, I thought that $1300 for a new Muk was a heck of a deal. They are both fun bikes and if I ever get mine back from my 13 year old I'm sure I'll love it even more.

    Yup, I know all about plans...looking at cold weather now..as I sit in my AC house while it is 95 outside.

    Knee is bad, MRI and maybe knee replacement..

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    Good thing for a kid to work for. Hope he doesn't loose it for u .
    I didn't believe how much a bike would help my knees. . I figured the bike would b way cheaper than doctors . And if they didn't work out I could always pedal
    them. :-) .
    I'm trying to make my parts last as long as I can. Does your wife ride with u? . That has helped me. Except now she is beginning to learn what turning 50 and getting into shape feels like. Because I've worked outdoors all my life I'm very used to the things my bod goes thru to get in shape. She is learning. :-( .

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    Yes, we often ride together. The part of Wisconsin in which we live is very hilly with loads of great sweeping turns. I also have a Salsa Vaya which I find myself on more than the Mukluk.
    Trying to keep my parts also but somedays I just want them to take out the knee, fix it and put it all back. Oh to be 30 again.
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    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aly View Post
    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?
    That's not a fatbike per se, rather a 26+ since it only fits 3.0 tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aly View Post
    Did anyone try the Gravity Knockout Complete Fat Bike ?
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    Is it a good deal for the 299$ ?

    Yes...I did...I bought just the frame and build it up with 85mm wheel with Origin8 Captiv8or 26x3.5 tires on it (actual width is 3.8" on an 80mm wheel)

    I put a 1x10 X7/X9 drivetrain on it with Elixir9 203mm rotor up front and 140mm rotor with BB7 out back..

    My build up of one is pretty well documented on this thread and over on Rat Rod Bikes......

    I use it as my exercise bike...mine came in at 27lbs...it's an "ok" bike that I let friends cruise around on...but NOT for much more than flatland cruising and beach cruising.

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    did the captivators on the 80mm rims fit in back ok? how much clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    did the captivators on the 80mm rims fit in back ok? how much clearance?
    There was not enough clearance....I had to (spread) the chainstays with a scissor jack just to get 4mm of clearance on each side (that's with 35psi in the tires though)

    on 50mm wheels, they *might* fit w/o much trouble.

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    Thanks Shank3r
    I did read your comments on Rod Rat and was very helpful on deciding this purchase.
    I was now asking about the package that comes with the complete bike.
    It seems they are adding a 150$ worth wheels:
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    and an Alivio Front and Rear Derailleur and other low end components

    What do you think of the overall setup ?

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    Does anyone know if the Frammed Wolftrax is with the extra $$ than the Minnesota 2.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphere View Post
    Does anyone know if the Frammed Wolftrax is with the extra $$ than the Minnesota 2.0?
    I have not ridden one myself yet, but according to the Framed website the geometry (numbers-wise) is the same as their Alaskan model which is what I have. I much prefer the fit on the Alaskan versus the Minnesota which I rode for a season before getting the Alaskan.

    You sit more upright and slightly further back on the AK than on the Minnesota. It rides more like a trail bike whereas the Minnesota rides more like a cross-country bike, if that makes any sense. If you can, go test-ride both as there is a noticeable difference in fit between the two.

    If it were me, I'd take a risk and get the WolfTrax based on the fit alone. The base model uses all the same components as the Minnesota so the extra money is really only paying for a different frame. It will also be a little lighter.

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    This is another one of my ignorance borne questions. What is a cross country bike?

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    Wheeler SAVANA - I paid $999 right on the knocker but there was a $70 delivery fee because I didn't live in Victoria. If this link doesn't work then search "Wheeler fat" in eBay cycling.

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    I used this bike to cycle the Canning Stock Route (CSR) in August and part of September 2015. 1,650km over 25 days of cycling. Only problem was with the poorly sealed pedals. Standard seat wasn't up to 25 days of outback corrugations, but that was my fault for not realizing I should have bought a proper off-road seat separately.

    Expect to pay an extra $1,000 for anything better - SAVANA is fantastic value-for-money. See my recent post(s) in this thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    This is another one of my ignorance borne questions. What is a cross country bike?
    In a nutshell, a cross-country style mountain bike is designed mainly to be fast and agile and a good climber with a more aggressive, forward-biased riding position. A trail bike is designed to be a little more relaxed; in both riding position and handling. Here's a good (although lengthy) explanation between the two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnz7mEE7MtQ

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    I plan on getting a Framed minnesota 1.0 soon,seems $750 is good price for me.
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    Does anyone dirt jump one of these bikes? Looks like it would fun to do

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    Great thread with lots of info. I am currently looking at the following.

    KHS 500 or 1000
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    That Motobecane Boris X7 is interesting. I laid the Boris over the KHS in this photo. The second photo is the Bigfoot over the KHS 500. Also circle a few differences between the Boris and the KHS. I test rode the 17" Bigfoot and loved it. Still undecided though, but leaning towards the Bigfoot.






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    got a brand new Mongoose Argus for $900 here in Philippines frame size is only small
    no regrets from my end

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    The Wheeler Savana seems to be similar to the Bikesdirect Motobecane Lurch. The u sprung version no?

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    If anyone is interested in buying a Framed Fat bike. I have a coupon code for The House – Outdoor Gear, Outerwear & Bikes - Save up to 70% The code is: FAT7304
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    I chose the single speed Raw Black Soul Stomper from Soul Beach Cruisers. It isn't your traditional fat bike. Take a BMX bike and give it growth hormones, a bad attitude and performance enhancing drugs and you get a slight idea the kind of beast you can ride. At $699 it was at a price point that I could afford but I didn't feel like, nor was I settling.

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    This seems like a good deal for a sub-$1k, 190mm-framed bike, SE F@E @$799:

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    Hey all, I searched for a fat bike that wouldn't break the bank and after searching far and wide it seemed like the Bikes Direct, Framed Minn, and a the SE F@E.

    Price wise, I found the SE F@E on Nashbar and got it for $614. If you sign up for their email list they send you pretty insane deals. Other sites sell the same bike for hundreds more.

    Bike has a 190+ spacing in the rear, which is sweet. I wasn't crazy about the triple up front, but I will just get rid if it wears out. Samox is a decent build, and way better than the Minnesota's that I demoed.

    Just thought I would add my two cents. Let me know if you have any questions as there are few reviews on the SE F@E.

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    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?

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    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?
    They come with a Chaoyang 4 inch. I didn't think they would be all that great. But the are honestly better than the Vee Mission tire. The tread pattern is really pretty aggressive and not terrible.

    I will probably upgrade for for winter here in NH if they really suck however.

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    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Trigger Finger View Post
    Sounds like you got a very good deal! What tires come on it?
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    They come with a Chaoyang 4 inch. I didn't think they would be all that great. But the are honestly better than the Vee Mission tire. The tread pattern is really pretty aggressive and not terrible.

    I will probably upgrade for for winter here in NH if they really suck however.
    I had those tires last year on my 6.3 Bigfoot. The only fat bike tire I rode last year so nothing to compare to. Initially, based on horrible reviews of Vee Missions and similar bottom of the barrel tires, I thought I would have to replace them for sure after first snow, but they surprised me. Didn't experience any major issues and rode all winter on them.

    This year I got a new bike with Floaters. They do have more grip, although we just got a dusting of snow so far so will have to wait to see what they can do, but most importantly they have nice big side lugs. My only real complaint regarding those Chaoyang tires was that they really needed one more row of lugs on the side. I thought they were a decent budget tire, although in all fairness best suited for 3 season riding. Now waiting for my order of Dillinger 4's and a bag of carbide studs.
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    Good to hear that the Chaoyang isn't a complete waste! All of these >$1000 bikes get some sort of cheaper tire.

    Anyone here ever run a larger front tire with a 4" in back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridaho View Post
    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?
    I received my Origin8 Amarok on Friday, put a few miles on it already and super happy with it. Rides a lot like some other bikes I demoed over the years, and will allow me to slowly step into something nicer in the future.

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    You may want to check if there's an LBS near you carrying the Framed Wolftrax, it's got a larger rear (197) and can take up to 5" tire. It's also got a nice hydroformed frame with some internal cable routing and starts at $1000; plus, the shop may offer you to swap the tires for something different, if interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ridaho View Post
    Considering buying my first fat bike. Would be for winter use only. Looking at the diamondback el Oso grande and the Minnesota 2.2 I can get both for ~ 1000$ I have some spare parts lying around ( hydraulic brakes, 1x crankset, derailleur) so I'm mostly looking at the frame and wheelset. DB has thru axels and wider hub spacing, is this going to be a better option for potential future upgrades?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agarner View Post
    Hey all, I searched for a fat bike that wouldn't break the bank and after searching far and wide it seemed like the Bikes Direct, Framed Minn, and a the SE F@E.

    Price wise, I found the SE F@E on Nashbar and got it for $614. If you sign up for their email list they send you pretty insane deals. Other sites sell the same bike for hundreds more.

    Bike has a 190+ spacing in the rear, which is sweet. I wasn't crazy about the triple up front, but I will just get rid if it wears out. Samox is a decent build, and way better than the Minnesota's that I demoed.

    Just thought I would add my two cents. Let me know if you have any questions as there are few reviews on the SE F@E.
    How are you liking the bike. Nashbar has it on sale again and I am seriously looking at it. Have you had a chance to test it out in any snow by chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenry View Post
    How are you liking the bike. Nashbar has it on sale again and I am seriously looking at it. Have you had a chance to test it out in any snow by chance?
    I'm looking at the same bike. Just wondering how it compares to the boris x5.

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    Raleigh just released a new steel 170mm bike with 4" CY tires. It's got trail bike geometry based on the Tokul, which is a hardtail with 120/130mm travel. The bike fits Specialized Ground Control 4.6 tires too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    I'm looking at the same bike. Just wondering how it compares to the boris x5.
    It can take bigger tires than the Boris. Not sure if you are planning on snow but if so it sounds like the wider the better. I just ordered a fat bike so this is not from personal experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenry View Post
    It can take bigger tires than the Boris. Not sure if you are planning on snow but if so it sounds like the wider the better. I just ordered a fat bike so this is not from personal experience.
    Is went with the Mongoose Vinson. First fat bike, small investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    Is went with the Mongoose Vinson. First fat bike, small investment.
    Congrats! Hope you enjoy the new ride!

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    Raleigh Pardner fitted with 4.6 Specialized Ground Control tyres. Rear tyre clears everything but is close to the front mech. It probably would throw snow on it. Best go 1X or get a better front mech on it.
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    I have been reading a lot on budget fat bikes, I kind of want one to keep at my office to get around base since I generally vanpool to work and don't have a way around. I can pick up one of those Pardners for $599.99 new through December. Seems like a really good deal, I need to go ride one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithe68 View Post
    I have been reading a lot on budget fat bikes, I kind of want one to keep at my office to get around base since I generally vanpool to work and don't have a way around. I can pick up one of those Pardners for $599.99 new through December. Seems like a really good deal, I need to go ride one.
    I saw that same deal at This Bike Life. for $599 you cant go wrong. I bought the mongoose vinson for $333 shipped after tax. Not quite as nice of a build, but its half the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moefosho View Post
    I saw that same deal at This Bike Life. for $599 you cant go wrong. I bought the mongoose vinson for $333 shipped after tax. Not quite as nice of a build, but its half the price.
    That's where I saw it. I would consider something like the Vinson, or other budget minded bikes, but they only come in one size normally and I am way too tall for that. I went up to TBL Saturday but they didn't have an XL in, actually they were down to M and SM. Oh well, I will find something at some point.

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    For anyone looking for a nice, but fairly inexpensive fat bike, Surly just dropped the price of the Pugsley to $899. SS version is $799.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassa89 View Post
    For anyone looking for a nice, but fairly inexpensive fat bike, Surly just dropped the price of the Pugsley to $899. SS version is $799.
    Its a nice starter but the frame will only accept tires up to 3.8” wide on 84mm rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Its a nice starter but the frame will only accept tires up to 3.8” wide on 84mm rims.
    It is far more than a starter. For many, a 4" tired fat bike is plenty and likely a better choice than a 5" tired bike.

    It works great in most sand and snow conditions and is a better dirt trail bike than a 5" bike. The bigger tires do help in the worst conditions, but the difference is not necessary for a lot of fatty riding.

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