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    Go for X7 and find a used Lefty set up. I think I saw one with clamps and wheel for 375 on FB Fatbike page.

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    A couple of others you might consider is the Minnesota 2.0 for $899 and possibly the Norco Bigfoot 6.3 for $949.

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    Still cleaning my Fatback.
    It's a life style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Don't know anything about said bikes but my advice is to look at the frame first for geo, material,hub width, axle type, and what fork it can run now and in the future...
    I agree.

    Would your friend consider buying a less expensive Boris, and using the rest of the budget on a wheelset?

    Generally speaking, unless you're paying north of $3K msrp, almost all bikes tend to come with really inexpensive stock wheels. Because a cheap, heavy wheelset can really hold back a bike, I recently purchased an X5 ($600) knowing that I'd be spending several hundred more on an upgraded wheelset.
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    I have the 2.0 and really like it. Though the shifting is a little slow under power with the x5 components. I plan on upgrading slowly. It's light and responsive, I rode a lot of singletrack before we got snow and it performed great.

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    I was looking at the KHS 4 Season well under $1k with hopes of upgrading to my likings until I stumbled on a sweet deal for a Bigfoot 6.3. KHS frame was nice too....

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    SE Bikes Foe & F@e offer great values, as well.

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    Looking to get my first fat bike

    I've been looking to buy my first fat bike. I've been looking at reviews and reading forums, but it seems like everybody buys a fat bike and alters it almost instantly, this makes it hard for me to get a good idea about which bike is really a good buy. I could really use some advise on which bikes are a good value stock. I'm looking to spend around $1000 on it. I'm ok with having to do some minor modifications to it right away, but would really like to be able to ride it out of the box. Any advise would be appreciated.

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    Just so you know, my bike is still stock. Down to the saddle.

    I may swap the stem out for a slightly longer one.

    How are you with bike wrenching? The less expensive choices seem to be the popular mail order kinds.
    Bikes, lots'o bikes

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    I'm not scared of getting dirty. I just want to get some input before spending this kind of money. I didn't spend this kind of money on my truck. What kind of bike do you have?

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    Hey RMark. I'm looking to get my first fat bike too. I ordered one a while ago from The House who sells the Framed brand bikes. I'm getting a Minnesota 3.0 XWT hopefully soon. They are very much within your price range. You will need to get pedals. Otherwise, it looks to be a pretty good buy as is. They've had a bit of an issue with the container ships out west, but that's cleared up. They are expecting a bunch of the Minnesota bikes any time now. Go for it!

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    RMark, With your budget, I would check out the used market, which ought to be rather good in the Madison area. A lot of people may be trading up with all the new models coming out. Used will get you more bike for less money with a good chance of some important upgrades being already done. Tires are a big one, as many models come stock with 27 tpi or some of the less desirable offerings from Vee rubber. Most of the quality bikes are adequately speced, imo, with the occasional exception being tires as I mentioned. You should be able to pick up a used Mukluk or a Pug for something close to $1000. If you haven't done it already, test ride both of those bikes to see which you prefer, since they loosely represent the two predominant fatbike geo styles out there today. With a little luck the only mods you might need to do would be for fit and comfort - stems, saddle, grips, etc.
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    He ended up with a gravity bullseye pro. X7 parts with a Bluto. Should be here next week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blown240 View Post
    He ended up with a gravity bullseye pro. X7 parts with a Bluto. Should be here next week!
    good choice.. imho, trail riding on a fatbike needs bluto.. sure you can still ride rigid but with bluto, your friend will be riding faster where he would otherwise have to slow down lest he wants to be thrown off the bike.. especially on consecutive small jumps.. those are unforgiving especially without the squish upfront.. i had a wo and my fatboy (prior to bluto).. all i ride is trails.. with bluto on my fatboy, it is a totally different ride experience..

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    I ride rigid on trails all the time. I have never felt the need for a compression fork on my fatty. My 2 cents. I can understand why some riders would prefer the Bluto.

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    Gravity Knockout Fatbike

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    Has anyone had any experience with this frame? I can deal with the mechanical issues.

    I'm mostly looking for info on tire clearance and frame geometry.
    1. Can the front fork fit a 4" tire?
    2. The rear a 3.8?

    I have a 19" Gravity SS. Measurements seem similar for the 18"

    Any experiences pro or con would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance .

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    I just got a 16" Gravity Knockout complete bike from BikeIsland for my gf 2 weeks ago. Didn't even have the clearance issue on hers but put a Lizard Skin on the chainstay as the chain comes pretty close. Not sure if I got a lucky one or what. Paid $299 shipped. She's new to riding so I didn't want to invest a bunch of money on something that might not get used much. Nice looking bike and only had to do some minor tuning of the brakes and derailleurs to get it going. The Tektro brakes were much easier to dial in than the Avid BB5s that came with my fat bike. For the riding she'll do on it, it's a really good value for a complete entry level fat bike.

    Just ordered her some Framed Fatty Slims for city cruising.

    I ride a '14 Framed Minnesota 2.0 and upgraded nearly everything on it. I'm going to swap over my old SRAM X5 rear mech, shifters, brake levers, and cassette to her bike to convert it to a 2x9 setup so she can swap the Fatty Slims out easy.

    I'll see if I can mount my Framed wheels with 4" Vee Missions on her bike. Pretty sure it will be no problem on the front. I'll report back with the results soon. The rims on the Gravity Knockout are not as wide and I doubt you could put a 4" tire on them.

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    Just pulled the trigger on the mini for the kids to share (almost 12 year old shorter boy and girl). If they like it a lot I might consider getting a second one for year around use.

    Only adjustments so far are the upgrade of the handlebar to a raised one (had a short carbon laying around) and had to adjust the brakes. The levers were way to far out. That and proper torquing all over and tire pressure was super high at 25. So far the kids love it but on snow the gearing is a major concern. I think at the start I will drop the 32T down to 30T and maybe replace the cassette with 11-36 to help out. At least before considering any crank changes and adding front derailleur

    Awesome bike and matches my 3.0 Looking forward to some rides.

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    Also was quite surprised that the overall diameter with these tires came to almost exactly same as my 650b wheels on my summer bike Much larger then their 24" bikes.

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    I was finally able put my Framed Minnesota 2.0 wheels/4" Vee Rubber Missions on the Gravity Knockout. No problem in the front. On the rear, seatstay clearance is fine but I had to deflate the tire a bit to get it past the curve of the chainstays. Still it's just barely too wide to use and rubs. I would guess 3.8 would work but that would be the max. I'll try to get some pictures of the seatstay, chainstay, and front fork clearances for you tonight.

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    bike island and bikes direct....

    I was looking at the boris x7..bike island has it listed at $649 and bikes direct has it at $699..I did search and I did not want too start a this vs that thread..but $50 is $50 shaved.. why is there a price difference? ?

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    One's gonna be banged up a bit, or a return for some reason or another; that's all Bike Island sells I'm fairly sure.

    Have you read the bike island descriptions at all yet? Do it, you'll learn something. Even the drop down menu for what you buy, it'll tell you what's "wrong" with the bike.

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    I looked at the Bike Island page last night and found that they had a Gravity bullseye monster Pro for about 949 minus 150 because it had no fork. I thought about it and decided that BD has the better choice for me because a Bluto still runs $500+ to replace it. Plus at the time i don't ave the tools or space to install a fork. There real difference to me is not that much. Bike island sell it complete for $949 and I can get a factory fresh one from BD for $999. iMHO I would look at both and read carefully what is wrong with the Fat bike before plunking down my hard earned cash on a "dent and ding ' model.


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    Wow! Thanks so much for you help. I really appreciate your effort!

    Sounds like you got a good deal on a bike for you significant other. Hopefully she gets into it.

    Thanks again for you help.

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    Still cleaning my Fatback.
    It's a life style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Also was quite surprised that the overall diameter with these tires came to almost exactly same as my 650b wheels on my summer bike Much larger then their 24" bikes.
    Awesome! Hope your little dude & dudette love it

    And I too was pleasantly surprised that the overall wheel diameter of my Fatboy 24 is close to 27.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melll View Post
    Awesome! Hope your little dude & dudette love it

    And I too was pleasantly surprised that the overall wheel diameter of my Fatboy 24 is close to 27.5
    thanks, unfortunately the weather is not very cooperative here in Chicago. We had lots of snow and ice and the temps went up and everything has been melting for a few days. Most of the snow should be gone by the weekend but that will leave mud everywhere and closed trails

    The wheel size is great, nice to have this frame size with larger wheels for the trails. The build does leave lots to be desired but then at that price one can;t be too choosy Also allows for some 'fun' upgrading

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Don't know anything about said bikes but my advice is to look at the frame first for geo, material,hub width, axle type, and what fork it can run now and in the future. Look next at the wheels and hubs as those are the next big ticket items. Then cranks, brakes and tires. Lastly and for myself personally I wouldn't spend to much time on the other crap because it can be replaced inexpensively when the it wears out, self destructs, or just upgrade-itis steps in. I think to many people see an x9 rear derailleur and get all google eyed and forget about the actual heartbeat of the bike.
    Good advice..and it applies to bike shops and BD as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Just pulled the trigger on the mini for the kids to share (almost 12 year old shorter boy and girl). If they like it a lot I might consider getting a second one for year around use.

    Only adjustments so far are the upgrade of the handlebar to a raised one (had a short carbon laying around) and had to adjust the brakes. The levers were way to far out. That and proper torquing all over and tire pressure was super high at 25. So far the kids love it but on snow the gearing is a major concern. I think at the start I will drop the 32T down to 30T and maybe replace the cassette with 11-36 to help out. At least before considering any crank changes and adding front derailleur

    Awesome bike and matches my 3.0 Looking forward to some rides.



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    If you don't mind, how tall is your son? The fit on that looks pretty good. Is there much, if any, toe overlap? I'm getting really close to getting one of these for my boy. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    If you don't mind, how tall is your son? The fit on that looks pretty good. Is there much, if any, toe overlap? I'm getting really close to getting one of these for my boy. Thanks for the feedback.
    Here is a pic of my daughter and she is 4' 8"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    thanks, unfortunately the weather is not very cooperative here in Chicago. We had lots of snow and ice and the temps went up and everything has been melting for a few days. Most of the snow should be gone by the weekend but that will leave mud everywhere and closed trails
    Hopefully you'll be able to get a few rides in... enough, at least, to know which parts you want to upgrade.

    And I agree, the price is great. If I could get the Mini-sota in Canada for the price it's sold for in the US, I would have jumped at it.

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    here is the new carbon handlebar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melll View Post
    Hopefully you'll be able to get a few rides in... enough, at least, to know which parts you want to upgrade.

    And I agree, the price is great. If I could get the Mini-sota in Canada for the price it's sold for in the US, I would have jumped at it.
    Its all melting now and trails are completely off limits until they dry out

    Its still quite a bit to spend on a kids bike but you sure get quite a bit for the price. Will they not ship to Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Its all melting now and trails are completely off limits until they dry out

    Its still quite a bit to spend on a kids bike but you sure get quite a bit for the price. Will they not ship to Canada?
    Oh no, boo to off-limit muddy trails.

    It's an extra $120 USD to ship to Canada, plus duty/taxes. That, added to the current terrible CAD/USD exchange rate means it would be about the same price to get the Mini-sota here as to order in the Fatboy 24 at the price my LBS was willing to offer me.

    Either way quite a bit for a "kids" bike, but I'm not going to grow out of it. Your daughter is very nearly my height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melll View Post
    Oh no, boo to off-limit muddy trails.

    It's an extra $120 USD to ship to Canada, plus duty/taxes. That, added to the current terrible CAD/USD exchange rate means it would be about the same price to get the Mini-sota here as to order in the Fatboy 24 at the price my LBS was willing to offer me.

    Either way quite a bit for a "kids" bike, but I'm not going to grow out of it. Your daughter is very nearly my height.
    Yes, mud is not an issue but ruining the single track is. Unfortunately too many people do not care and ruin sections of the trails. Then its up to local CAMBr volunteers to fix them Few more warmer sunny days ahead of the weekend. Hopefully the wide track with its crushed limestone will be good to go.

    As far as shipping the bike, depending how far north you are, have you thought about getting the bike shipped to someone in US and go on a weekend road trip to pick it up? I'm by Chicago if that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by dariusf View Post
    Here is a pic of my daughter and she is 4' 8"

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    Thank you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    Thank you sir!
    you are welcome, the bike is quite a bit larger then 24" Specialized Hotrock or 24" Trek 220.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belikemike View Post
    I was looking at the boris x7..bike island has it listed at $649 and bikes direct has it at $699..I did search and I did not want too start a this vs that thread..but $50 is $50 shaved.. why is there a price difference? ?
    I've bought a bike from Bike Island and can tell you most of the dings and scratches are kind of exaggerated. I believe I did more (cosmetic) damage to the bike on it's first day at a trail park than what I got from the shipping crate. Cust. service is as good as can be. They ship you a set of parts fast if you claim any fault not mentioned in the pull down. No questions asked.

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    mongoose vinson heck of a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by hectorlandaeta View Post
    I've bought a bike from Bike Island and can tell you most of the dings and scratches are kind of exaggerated. I believe I did more (cosmetic) damage to the bike on it's first day at a trail park than what I got from the shipping crate. Cust. service is as good as can be. They ship you a set of parts fast if you claim any fault not mentioned in the pull down. No questions asked.
    I bought a mongoose vinson 490.00 total at the sports authority.the deal now is 579.00 plus free shipping and 10 percent back on email sign ups but keep looking as deals change weekly.
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    Here is the bike my buddy to ended up with:



    Its a Bullyeye Monster pro from bike island. There are a couple minor scratchs on the frame, but he strips the paint off of everything, so that doesn't matter to him at all. For a bike with X7 parts, and a Bluto, I don't think he could have done better.
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    We picked up my son's mini
    Thought I'd throw up a photo comparison of his 24" Cannondale compared to the mini-sota
    He's pretty excited
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikj View Post
    We picked up my son's mini
    Thought I'd throw up a photo comparison of his 24" Cannondale compared to the mini-sota
    He's pretty excited
    Nice, did you go on any trails?

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    Chicago weather sucks, the trails are a complete mudslide, even the wide track still wet. Instead riding I spend half a day yesterday with my son and the local bike org building new single track trails and fixing others. Over 3 hours on a small team rough cutting and marking a new trail. It snakes along a couple ravines connecting to existing trail. Not as fun as riding but quite cool to think that if the trail gets approved by the forest preserve, we were involved in its conception

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    Dolomite - $212, I got mine over-nighted FedEx free. Rolls on glass, wheels - tires mind-boggling true. Yeah so I gotta tear it open and grease the bearings, everyone should do that anyway. 49 pounds, men only.

    Question: Does Bikes Direct own this site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZINGER View Post

    Question: Does Bikes Direct own this site?
    No but a ton of people on this site own Bikes Direct Bikes and the owner of Bikes Direct is a member here...

    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZINGER View Post
    Question: Does Bikes Direct own this site?
    Hardly! The other half that doesn't own Motobacons are big time haters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZINGER View Post
    Question: Does Bikes Direct own this site?
    it may seem that way from this thread, but they have a huge portion of the roughly $1000 and below fatbike market at the moment

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    For under $1000, they have a lot to offer.

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