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    Fat rims with cutouts, show us your mods

    Anyone got pics of fun mods done to Clown Shoes or really any fat rims with cutouts?

    Surly has red, blue, white and black strips
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    Talking with guys at the LBS I heard mention of custom colors (argyle) and such being achieved by using strips of fabric from a local crafts store under the stock rim strip. That way you get colors but keep the tube protected from the sharp edges of the cutouts.

    I also just found this site that sells 3" wide rolls of vinyl tape in multiple colors.
    IDENTI-TAPE - 3-inch Colored Vinyl Floor Marking Tape

    Looking for inspiration If you have some pics show 'em.
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    Designer Duct Tape

    Not Clownshoe, but I know someone else who by chance used the same I believe on his Rolling Darrels and used two passes of the same over the holes. On mine shown below on UMA 70's 1 pass covered the holes:


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    I can't post a pic of my moonlander yet, but I cut the tape on every other cutout, then put a white rim strip over the standard black strip. Dunno if it's any better looking than a white strip, but it's still different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I can't post a pic of my moonlander yet, but I cut the tape on every other cutout, then put a white rim strip over the standard black strip. Dunno if it's any better looking than a white strip, but it's still different.
    Cool! Pics when you got 'em. :-)

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    Oh I have em, just not enough posts to do links. 1 closer now though!

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    I went with red Reflexite tape



    I am told these are pretty noticeable in the glow of headlights.
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    I went with white/silver reflective.


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    You don't need the thick Surly rim strip behind the fabric.

    I use fabric with packing tape to hold it in place.

    On my trials bikes in the past I used Electrical Tape.

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    I used red ripstop nylon from the fabric store, it's lite strong and it works great. Cut it into strips and tape it in. There are a ton of colors and its cheap. Although I'm thinking of switching out to the reflective tape.

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    That reflective tape looks like a great idea. I'll probably switch to that sometime soon.

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    edit-pic wasn't resized so I had to do it myself like some sort of caveman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post


    edit-pic wasn't resized so I had to do it myself like some sort of caveman.
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    Sorry it's a bit standard but here's mine

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    Great posts! Trying to find a good deal on some plain old white reflective tape for my clownshoes, might go with the black tape that reflects white...undecided.

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    This kind of reminds me of buying 3" silicone flex tubing for road racing brake ducts..it onyl comes in 10' sections

    Anyone have any white reflective left over? I figured unless you are fitting two fat bikes, a 30 foot roll should leave some left over. anyone have any extra they want to sell to split their costs?

    ---OR---

    anyone want to split a roll of white reflective? I may oder some reflex tape if I can;t find anything at homedepot or autostoned.

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    Alternating red and white reflective tape.
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    Random drilling, plus Astro Turf rim strips, gave these GFS a very "organic" look to them. It is like the bike went all Jumanji.
    I love these unique projects.

    There are pic of the complete at Eric's blog.
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    Those are pretty awesome, but the wife thinks you should have used shaggier turf

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    ha! and very cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jn35646 View Post
    Those are pretty awesome, but the wife thinks you should have used shaggier turf
    We wanted to use some Turf with 3" long grass, but it was aprx 10x the cost. This was cheap enough to experiment around with, maybe in the future well go the miracle grow route.......

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    Hand/of/Midas I am totally stealing that idea for a bamboo townie bike some time. I'll use some trials rims.
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    I'd be afraid some overzealous LEO would stop me on suspicion of transporting a controlled substance.
    Let the market decide!

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    a little camo in some big holes!! Ill show some pics of my crazy snowflake rims later

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    1.5" plaid polyester ribbon works really well with the Muk2 color scheme. Plus it saved me 75 grams a wheel over the Surly ones. We'll see if it wears though, I didn't put anything else in there and I'm running light weight tubes.

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    Love the plaid! Need an "Elmer Fud" helmet...

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    red sequins on the wife's bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by ak greeff View Post
    red sequins on the wife's bike
    Need closeup, please.
    Let the market decide!

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    ^^^
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    I like the silver rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak greeff View Post
    ^^^
    Very nice that you bedazzled the boss's bike.
    Let the market decide!

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    Chia Pet wheels are awesome!

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    Another with Tartan rim tape here on the Moonlander, `Royal Stewart` Tartan to match the seat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twebb View Post


    Hello Kitty + Home made Large Marge Lites
    Those are precious!

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    Good job!

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    Alternating red and white reflective tape.




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    So is it fair to say that given the fabric used one could forgo rim strips??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    So is it fair to say that given the fabric used one could forgo rim strips??
    I would guess there are multiple variables...how thick is the fabric and how much pressure will you be running. You might just want to be safe and run those rim strips behind the fabric.

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    I ran a green ribbon then placed a layer of ducktape underneath that. No problems so far, only have one ride on it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
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    LOL!! I was thinking the same thing!
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    Hi, where did you get the reflective tape? Looks awesome! Thnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morej View Post
    Hi, where did you get the reflective tape? Looks awesome! Thnx
    I got mine from TowMart.
    Let the market decide!

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    Thanks unabintarbo.

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    Has anyone tried the reflective fabric tape versus the type with an adhesive back? Or does the sticker-backed tape hold up better? Just curious. I'm planning the go with white/silver in the clown shoe cutouts on my Moonlander.

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    Lime green duct tape to match the frame on my 9 zero 7, I did use the Surly rim strips as well. No flats yet in 5 months of riding, and I think it looks BA.
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    I'm not the handiest guy you ever met and my power tool collection is a dremel tool and a drill. I'm working up the courage to drill out my old Large Marge DH's to shed some weight since a new wheel set seems at least a year or two away.

    Can someone point me at a write up for drilling out fat rims that would be easy to follow for a near Home Depot virgin...?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Thanks...is there a recommended rate at which the beer should be consumed?...
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    well the ER will know when you've had too much, you may not.

    I suggest 2 for courage, 4 for sheer "fuggit!" attitude, any more than that and you risk suffering from the dreaded "hey watch me do this with the dremel" effect, results of which include but are not limited to:
    cutting disk fragment to the forehead, using the webbing between thumb and index as a "cutting guide" and of course "Slatering" your eyebrow while trying to re-wind that stupid cord around your arm with the dremel still on, and many many more!

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    Thanks for the tips and inspiration in this thread. Got my GF's Large Marge rims drilled out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand/of/Midas View Post
    Random drilling, plus Astro Turf rim strips, gave these GFS a very "organic" look to them. It is like the bike went all Jumanji.
    I love these unique projects.

    There are pic of the complete at Eric's blog.
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    dredging up this old thread......

    My dad wanted orange on his Moonlander rims. They need a 3" wide strip so readily available duck tapes and ribbons won't work. I ended up buying a foot (x 50") of orange marine vinyl from Joann's Fabrics and cut it into 3" strips. Stuck it on the rim at two places with double sided carpet tape. Worked awesome - his rims look like they're filled with oranges.

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    How does all the drilling do in compromising structural integrity of the rim? They are obviously weaker, but how much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    How does all the drilling do in compromising structural integrity of the rim? They are obviously weaker, but how much?
    I wouldn't say reasonable drilling out of rims makes them significantly weaker. We really aren't hearing of any major issues with the Surly factory cut out rims which are on the conservative side nor the DIY drilled out rims which are sometimes more aggressively cut out. The single walled Surly rims don't seem overbuilt for their mission in life - not like the old school Large Marges were.

    If they were significantly compromised by the cut outs you'd expect to see more reports of failures with those rims.

    I think the thing to worry about is getting the wheel built up properly with even spoke tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I wouldn't say reasonable drilling out of rims makes them significantly weaker. We really aren't hearing of any major issues with the Surly factory cut out rims which are on the conservative side nor the DIY drilled out rims which are sometimes more aggressively cut out. The single walled Surly rims don't seem overbuilt for their mission in life - not like the old school Large Marges were.

    I think the thing to worry about is getting the built up properly with even spoke tension.
    Speaking of the devil! I have the OG Large Marge DH rims. I keep saying that they just make me stronger, but sometimes I wonder how much faster I would be without the extra half pound of aluminium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustyduke22 View Post
    Speaking of the devil! I have the OG Large Marge DH rims. I keep saying that they just make me stronger, but sometimes I wonder how much faster I would be without the extra half pound of aluminium.


    I think you can go to town lightening the old LMs without fear. When you look at what's left you still have a 3-D structure that's got to be much stronger than the current batch of single walled rims.
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    i put some light green rim tape on my echos... my cat likes it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I can't post a pic of my moonlander yet, but I cut the tape on every other cutout, then put a white rim strip over the standard black strip. Dunno if it's any better looking than a white strip, but it's still different.
    I did the same thing with white and blue. I used a wider Darryl strip on my marges to keep some strength once I started cutting the blue one. I tried to melt it first but that was a bad idea... Deformed it quite a bit and almost melted through it. Thankfully the Surly rimstrips are very tough and stretchy. I originally had some glow in the dark tape in there, but as you can imagine, it didn't work all that well. I wanted to do reflective but got impatient and just grabbed all the surly rimstrips I needed from the LBS when I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post


    I think you can go to town lightening the old LMs without fear. When you look at what's left you still have a 3-D structure that's got to be much stronger than the current batch of single walled rims.
    That is freaky looking!! But so sexy at the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post


    I think you can go to town lightening the old LMs without fear. When you look at what's left you still have a 3-D structure that's got to be much stronger than the current batch of single walled rims.
    I just drilled my Large Marge DH's using 1.5 inch holes. Thanks for the inspiration vik! But I'm having trouble with using duck tape for a rim strip. When I inflate the tire the tape moves a little in some areas and I have tube on hole contact. This is standard 1.88 inch duck tape, but I am using a 2.5-2.7 inch DH tube. Did you use regular duck tape? I was going to get a Surly rim strip and be done with it, but those are 46mm (1.8"), maybe I should get a Rolling Darryl Strip (64mm) and trim it if need be.

    Oh yeah, I measured 300g lighter with the 1.5" holes. I did not drill the welded section either.

    Thanks!

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    Nothing Earth shattering here;

    RDs, powder coated white, 1.375" holes, Surly strips. Perhaps the only thing that is exceptional is that
    I weigh 240lbs. We shall see if they hold up. No problems in the snow, so far.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69tr6r View Post
    I just drilled my Large Marge DH's using 1.5 inch holes. Thanks for the inspiration vik! But I'm having trouble with using duck tape for a rim strip. When I inflate the tire the tape moves a little in some areas and I have tube on hole contact. This is standard 1.88 inch duck tape, but I am using a 2.5-2.7 inch DH tube. Did you use regular duck tape?
    300g that's great.

    I used regular duck tape on her LMs. I noticed in Baja that when we fixed a flat from a thorn she got that the tape had wandered over slightly exposing the edge of a hole. I just slapped some more tape over the inside of the rim on that side.

    We got her a Surly rim strip we'll install when the we have a sunny weekend. I'll try a LM 46mm strip first and see if that works. If need be we'll use some light packing tape behind it to hold it in place.

    Enjoy the new holey wheels.

    BTW - I'm thinking of masking off the spokes and spray painting her LM rims for some low cost bling when I redo her rim strips. Eventually we'll get her some Marge Lites and powder coat them, but I figured we can do something that's eye catching for $15 of spray paint for this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    300g that's great.

    I used regular duck tape on her LMs. I noticed in Baja that when we fixed a flat from a thorn she got that the tape had wandered over slightly exposing the edge of a hole. I just slapped some more tape over the inside of the rim on that side.

    We got her a Surly rim strip we'll install when the we have a sunny weekend. I'll try a LM 46mm strip first and see if that works. If need be we'll use some light packing tape behind it to hold it in place.

    Enjoy the new holey wheels.

    BTW - I'm thinking of masking off the spokes and spray painting her LM rims for some low cost bling when I redo her rim strips. Eventually we'll get her some Marge Lites and powder coat them, but I figured we can do something that's eye catching for $15 of spray paint for this year.
    Cool, glad to hear I'm not doing something wrong with the duck tape. I'll try a 64mm Surly strip and see how that works.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post


    I think you can go to town lightening the old LMs without fear. When you look at what's left you still have a 3-D structure that's got to be much stronger than the current batch of single walled rims.
    What size holes are those? I think I'm going to drill out my LM's to get the weight down a bit. Then if I can find a set of 120tpi HuDu's, I'll be set.

    Be a big difference drilling out the rims and switching out the 27tpi Larry's and going tubeless...
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcaino View Post
    What size holes are those?
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    Make sure you get a bimetal hole saw, and a pretty good one. The first hole saw I had was very beat and it made things difficult.

    Also, I used some heavy rubber tubing to protect the spokes from the hole saw busting through and hitting it.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacons View Post
    Oh no, you are surely going to go flat before the season is over with those rim strips!

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    Ha ha. Hey, at least it's not Michigan.

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    Penguins here.


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    vik:

    There was a thread here last year. From my experience it is easier with single wall rims, my LBS drilled a friend's double wall LM rims and said they would NEVER undertake that again.

    Basically, you need a hole saw and a drill press and you'll need to make a jig or appliance to hold the wheel steady while you drill.

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    Drilled GFS with sparkly tape

    Careful... the other guy I know around these parts that did it himself was drinking and rushing and mangled his paw in the process! Pictures were nastyFat rims with cutouts, show us your mods-sparkle-tape.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRALPH View Post
    vik:

    There was a thread here last year. From my experience it is easier with single wall rims, my LBS drilled a friend's double wall LM rims and said they would NEVER undertake that again.

    Basically, you need a hole saw and a drill press and you'll need to make a jig or appliance to hold the wheel steady while you drill.
    I did it in my backyard with a hole saw and I braced the rims up against the stairs on my deck. As long as you drill small pilot holes first I don't see the need for a drill press.

    But, I will agree with them I didn't enjoy the process and decided after doing my GF's set to buy myself some new rims with cut outs.

    Now that I have the cut out RDs I saved myself a bunch of work, but the stock cut outs are kind of small.

    If I was starting again I think I'd buy the non-cut out RDs and cut 'em out myself with bigger holes. It would just depend how lazy I was feeling the day I ordered them...
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    Just a fyi for those of you planning a custom rim strip with ghetto tubeless via gorilla tape. If you use ribbon, or anything else that has a woven type construction, put a non-porous barrier between the tape and the strip. Otherwise the glue on the tape will seep through the first time your bike gets hot. Over time you will end up with dirt for rim strips and it is pretty much impossible to clean off.
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    I went with Gold duct tape to match my fenders.
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    Re: Fat rims with cutouts, show us your mods

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    Check out tapebrothers.com. Every tape of every style and color, pattern, etc.
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    Clownshoes with 64 extra 1/2" holes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Clownshoes with 64 extra 1/2" holes.

    I love it! Any issues with the integrity of the rim? How much weight did it lose? Is that a solar emergency blanket you used? That's what I'm using!( moonlander+solar blanket= intergalactic win) I want it too hi-lite the glitter in the paint.
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    I don't think there is any integrity issues and I didn't check the weight savings. It's not a solar blanket, it is clear tape so I can see inside.

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    Thanx for the reply!
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    So I had a think about what I could do with my new Muk 3 wheelset.

    Got my beautiful wife to laminate some sheets for me, then carefully cut out pics.

    Fitted 50mm wide strip of 0.5mm pvc table cloth material as a rim tape, then stuck pictures on before taping over them with what I hope will eventually work as mu tubeless rim tape

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    You went to a lot of work with the smiley faces. I like it. I would like for the faces to always be where they facing one direction though. Looks like you got some nice wide clear tape.

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    He faced them in all directions so it when it's spinning, the faces talk. I kid, I kid.

    Nice work Shanesbw!

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    Set this up last night. Green duct tape. Comment about the Smiley faces really makes me want to do some sort of flip book setup now though.

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    A type of "flip book" scene would be great.

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    Flip book would be so cool

    I did the smiley faces facing different directions so as everyone gets to enjoy them wherever they view the bike from

    All ready had plenty of comments at the bike store I work in today

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    this thread is awesome. I think I need to drill out my large marge's but i'm just scared of ruining my rims. There is a guy down the street who does rim drilling for $100. I feel like that is a bit steep but I guess it would be better than buying new rims then getting them drilled for $100...

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    Nobody NEEDS drilled rims....
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    IMHO $100 isn't bad if they are done right and finished well. By the time I can the holes all cleaned up, and swept up the mess, I had 4 hours into the project. I am sure if you build a fixture for marking holes, you could cut it down a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    IMHO $100 isn't bad if they are done right and finished well. By the time I can the holes all cleaned up, and swept up the mess, I had 4 hours into the project. I am sure if you build a fixture for marking holes, you could cut it down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRock24 View Post
    this thread is awesome. I think I need to drill out my large marge's but i'm just scared of ruining my rims. There is a guy down the street who does rim drilling for $100. I feel like that is a bit steep but I guess it would be better than buying new rims then getting them drilled for $100...
    Other than drilling through the valve stem hole thinking it was a pilot hole there isn't much to go wrong from drilling out your rims.
    - Measure and mark the pilot holes.
    - Double check them all.
    - tape over valve stem hole with coloured tape!!!
    - Drill small pilot holes
    - break out the hole saw [double check each hole twice - drill once]
    - drill out the big holes
    - use a dremel or file to clean up the edges of the holes

    You are done!

    If your rims are built into wheels you either have to protect the spokes near the hole you are drilling or be gentle as you finish the cut out so you don't push the hole saw too far through the new hole.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonshonda View Post
    IMHO $100 isn't bad if they are done right and finished well. By the time I can the holes all cleaned up, and swept up the mess, I had 4 hours into the project. I am sure if you build a fixture for marking holes, you could cut it down a bit.
    Good points. Whether or not it's worth it to you to DIY or spend $100 really depends on how you feel about spending an afternoon with your tools + rims. If you enjoy that sort of thing and can sip some beer while listening to tunes and working away go for it. If you would rather skip the hassle drop $100.

    After drilling my GF's LMs I bought Holy RDs from Surly for ~$60 more than standard RDs. Zero hassles, but the holes are pretty small. I think next time around I would do my own drilling out to get bigger cut outs.
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    I've been contemplating this...and with the offset LM rims, it seems that one would be able to actually drill from the inside of the wheel to the outside. If that's the case, then all it would take is a little wooden jig to help hold the wheel steady and one could drill without worrying about fudging their spokes. I've yet to put the hole saw in the drill and confirm this will work, though.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcaino View Post
    I've been contemplating this...and with the offset LM rims, it seems that one would be able to actually drill from the inside of the wheel to the outside. If that's the case, then all it would take is a little wooden jig to help hold the wheel steady and one could drill without worrying about fudging their spokes. I've yet to put the hole saw in the drill and confirm this will work, though.
    A right angle drill will also improve your odds.
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    Silver, just silver.

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    So my first attempt at smilies in the cut outs looked good, that is until my first attempt at tubeless rim tape allowed the sealant to soak through

    Yesterday I made more smilies and tried a new rim tape that seems okay so far, here they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    A right angle drill will also improve your odds.
    Yep, I used a right angle drill. It worked much better.

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