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    Fat Rack?

    Have any of you guys found a good reciver hitch rack that will acomidate 3.7" plus tires?

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    As a "van guy" I've not given such things much thought,
    It appears that hitch mount racks are either the ones your tires SIT in and the ones your top tube HANGS from.
    I'm willing to bet the rack industry hasn't seen the need to accomidate FAT tires in the first type and the second type could accomidate ANY tire size

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    I can't stand the hanging type racks!! Too many reasons to type right now!!

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    This thread might help, though it's focused on roof racks. What interested me were the modifications tscheezy made. Something similar will be needed regardless of what rack solution you choose.

    Roof Rack Adapter

    With a Fatback on order, I'm soon to be in a similar situation. I have an older model Sportsworks hitch rack used for my recumbent. It's heavy and robust, but will need the tray wheel holders modified to accept wider tires. I've got perhaps a month or so to get that done.
    From the looks of things, Sportsworks is now focused on the transit industry has gotten out of the making consumer racks, so no more options there.

    1up has a couple rack products you might check out, though they would also require modification.

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    I contacted 1upusa last week after not seeing anything about their 4.5a rack that had been on a few blogs this summer. Turns out they will be selling a $25 spacer kit that should be available next week that will allow their racks to be used with fatbikes. They included a photo of a Pugsley with Large Marge's with Larry's on it and it appears that there is still plenty of clearance remaining with the spacers.

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    We got wto Mukluks on my Thule T-2, (one with BFL's), by using two long Velcro straps for the rear wheels and just using the standard front wheel trays as is.

    Traveled 20 miles or so over rough county roads with no issues. I went about 600 miles with my Muk and my wife's bike over the course of the weekend with this rack as well.
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    Thanks GT, that is just what I wanted to know!!

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    I have a 1up USA hitch rack and am hoping to purchase a Mukluk 2 soon. After seeing some of the photos of racks with apparent factory modifications I emailed 1up USA asking if they have spacers available to adapt my rack to fit a fat bike. This is the response I received:

    The spacers are being made now, I will email you when they are available with in the next week or so.

    I was subsequently told that the cost will be $25 shipped, and this email conversation took place at the end of last week, so I imagine that the kits will be available Real Soon Now(tm).

    This price sounds a little high to me, but after considering the difficulties in sourcing appropriate size spacers and stainless fastening hardware I think it's worth it. I suspect that after finding the right pieces it'd cost around $15 in parts to space the rack out, and $10 isn't much of a premium to not have to pick and order the parts. Maybe if I was needing/wanting to space out a bunch of racks, but I'm only planning on having one fatbike-modified rack.

    (Yes, I know I could go with simple longer bolts and stacks of washers, but I'd prefer the likely nicer fit and finish of an OEM kit.)

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    I had 3 Fatbacks on an earlier version of this and it has a built beer opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valhalla View Post
    I had 3 Fatbacks on an earlier version of this and it has a built beer opener.
    Modifying my older Sportswork looks to be a PIA so I checked out options available at a local REI earlier today. The 2-bike version of the Doubledown is a viable choice. It's fairly compact, don't have to sweat modifying wheel trays and the price isn't hateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apbtlvr View Post
    Modifying my older Sportswork looks to be a PIA so I checked out options available at a local REI earlier today. The 2-bike version of the Doubledown is a viable choice. It's fairly compact, don't have to sweat modifying wheel trays and the price isn't hateful.
    The only PIA is when you have a frame bag in place. You either have to remove it or release all of the top velcro to slide the bike on the rack. I have the 4 version but it really can only hold 3 mtbs.

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    I use a Kuat NV with a the Kuat strap extender! Works like a champ!

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    Strap Extender: NV/Sherpa rear tire strap extender

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    1upusa Adapter

    You can make some yourself, or get their upgrade kit:

    "Keep your burgers lean and your tires fat." -h.d. | ssoft | flickr

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    [QUOTE=Drevil;8492318]You can make some yourself, or get their upgrade kit:

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    I love this rack, it just looks so clean!

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    I just ordered the spacer kit yesterday. Price went up from the $25 I was told about last week to $29, but I still think it's cheaper than all the parts plus time spent sourcing them myself.

    I'll likely do a writeup on this once I receive it as I'm really curious how the rack works for a normal-wheeled bike after being installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker22 View Post
    I love this rack, it just looks so clean!
    Although that one is not mine, I've had mine for the last two years and love it. A handful of friends have purchased theirs after checking mine out. I'm glad it'll be easy to get this kit, or easily retro my own with items from the hardware store.

    The rack is expensive, but you get what you pay for.
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    Here's mine which just arrived today. Took 30 seconds to install. I will post pics of the fatbike spacer kit later tonight but first I must ride!
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    Ha. I just heard a story about Pebble Mine on NPR on the way home from work today.

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    Glad to hear it is getting more national attention. I will to listen for it. It is a pretty hot topic with huge ramifications.

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    Definitely interested in that 1upUSA rack. Hadn't seen it 'til now.

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    Nothing fancy but it works. I have since drilled 2 holes on the sides toward the bottom to accept the bungee. 18" of 4 " channel and 2 bolts and an 18" bungee.

    I also did a shorter one with 3" channel for semi fat tires that were not fitting into the tray well either.

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    1UpUSA Fat Bike spacers are good

    I got my spacer kit yesterday, and got around to installing it this evening. The installation was pretty easy: just remove 8 bolts/screws and replace them with the ones from the kit and the corresponding spacers. You'll need a 4mm hex wrench and a couple of 1/2" wrenches to install the kit.

    It looks like normal sized tires and even cross/road tires will continue to work with the spacers installed, although it would definitely be a good idea to use some sort of strap to strap down the tires to the wheel spools and maybe to the trays (for cross/road bikes.)

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    The spacer kit as packaged (but nicely arranged on my desk):


    Spacers installed on driver side of rack:


    A close up view of the spacers for the locking track:


    A close up of the wheel spools with and without spacers:


    Both arms spaced:


    The old parts:


    My normal mountain bike in the rack (tires are 26" Mountain King 2.2"):


    My Cross Check in the rack (tires are 700x32):


    And last, but not least, my Pugsley in the rack:

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    Ya I really like the 1up rack , it says on their web site the kit will take tires up to
    4.5'' wide , a few extra washers and the 4.7 tires should work and by the looks of it
    this kit should work for the roof tray rack also, sometime next summer I see myself
    in the market for a fat bike properly the moonlander it would be nice to have a rack
    that works for the fat bike and my 29er.

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    I have an inexpensive swagman rack that I can fit my pugsley into. The tires just need to be pushed a little

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    I came up with a cheap mod for the Thule T2 that allows me to rack my Mukluk without deflating the tires. Also, I have the older shorter swing arm (lower section is 26" long vs the newer arm which is 28" long) so I needed to get the tires closer to the platform for my arm to fit over the tire.

    For this design, you use the existing holes on the front tire end and you drill new holes for the back tire end. But the good news is, if something goes wrong or you don't like this design, you can fully revert back to the original setup and the only negative are the two small holes on the back end of the platform. No biggie.

    The only bad thing is that the short swing arm on my rack is too extended to click into place and lock when the fenders are on, so you can't use the built in lock and you have to secure the arm with a short bungie OR you can deflate the front tire, which I am against...so bungie it is. However, with this is in mind this method works great for very little cost.

    Materials:
    - Couple of feet of black 4" PVC
    - x2 2.5" x 1/2" bolts
    - Extra large washers for the 1/2" bolts
    - Locking washer for 1/2" bolts
    - x2 1/4" bolts, regular washers and locking washers
    - Some scrap wood, i used a 2x4
    - Some velcro
    - Wood screws

    I think the pics will make this pretty self explanatory. So here you go in no particular order:















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    The 1upUSArack is the way to go, I really like mine. There is also a picture over at: 1up USA – Quik-Rack (4.5” Fat/Snow Bike Rack) | The World of Fat & Snow Bikes!

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    At Frostbike there was a Saris rack shown with no mods that easily holds fat bikes. Also, Thule showed the T2 with no mods holding a fatbike like I do on mine by removing the strap and just using a toe strap or some long hook and loop strap to fasten the tire down on the carrying bar. No need for anything else. I've driven over very rough roads with this set up with zero concerns.
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    My T2 got rat-bagged pretty quick taking it off-road. Had to get it repaired at the local welding shop and ever since it's been collecting dust. We only drag it out once or twice a year when we need to transport road bikes somewhere. Too much plastic and too many moving parts, IMHO.

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    I've been looking at racks for about a year now and I think I'm going to go with the North Shore Racks
    I like the ability to carry 4 bikes and also like the fact that it does not cover up the tail lights.
    Am I missing any negative aspects about these racks that I should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    ...Thule showed the T2 with no mods holding a fatbike like I do on mine by removing the strap and just using a toe strap or some long hook and loop strap to fasten the tire down on the carrying bar. No need for anything else. I've driven over very rough roads with this set up with zero concerns.
    The only way for me to use the factory T2 setup with the fatty was to deflate the tires - however - even after this was done, my swing arm could not reach the top of the tire, not even close. I believe this is because the older T2's have a shorter arm than the new ones. My mod was the cheapest way to get around the issue.

    -- Update -- Confirmed that the lower section (the part with the teeth) of the newer swing arms are 2 inches longer than my older version: 26" vs. 28". So those of you with the shorter arm may want to try this mod before dropping $400 plus on a new rack or I believe around $60 for the new arm. -- end update --

    Here is a pic of my T2 with the older arm length with the front tire almost completely deflated and wedged as far as it will go into the factory tire tray with the swing arm fully extended. No bueno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmaxx4 View Post
    I've been looking at racks for about a year now and I think I'm going to go with the North Shore Racks
    I like the ability to carry 4 bikes and also like the fact that it does not cover up the tail lights.
    Am I missing any negative aspects about these racks that I should know about?
    North Shore Racks are awesome. We use ours year round and it gets some pretty serious abuse.

    I also like that the bikes are high and held vertically... Four bikes hanging low off the back on a Thule T2 or similar design get a lot of crud on them and add a lot of length to the vehicle.

    There are only two downsides:

    1. They don't carry road bikes
    2. Fatback carbon forks don't fit perfectly. They work just fine but they don't quite sit as deep in the hooks as others. I've had Surly, Salsa, Fatback, 9:Zero:7 bikes in there and fatback carbon fork is the only one so far. Not a concern for holding the bike but something to know about.



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    Quote Originally Posted by anthony.delorenzo View Post
    North Shore Racks are awesome. We use ours year round and it gets some pretty serious abuse.

    I also like that the bikes are high and held vertically... Four bikes hanging low off the back on a Thule T2 or similar design get a lot of crud on them and add a lot of length to the vehicle.

    There are only two downsides:

    1. They don't carry road bikes
    2. Fatback carbon forks don't fit perfectly. They work just fine but they don't quite sit as deep in the hooks as others. I've had Surly, Salsa, Fatback, 9:Zero:7 bikes in there and fatback carbon fork is the only one so far. Not a concern for holding the bike but something to know about.


    Thanks. It's going to look good on the back of my FJ Cruiser.

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    I've got a Yakima Hold Up and all i had to do was drill out the two rivits that hold the plastic insert on the 'front' wheel tray. Pop that plastic part out and a fat tire fits just fine - on top of that i added a strap to hold the back tire on instead of the plastic one. When i need to haul a 'smaller' tire i can just pop the plastic part back on. I'll look for a pic and post up when i can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldbike View Post
    I have an inexpensive swagman rack that I can fit my pugsley into. The tires just need to be pushed a little
    Do you have photos of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GFisher2001 View Post
    Do you have photos of this?
    I modified (cut and welded wider) the tire hoops on my Swagman to fit fat tires. I've never had a ton of confidence in the construction of the Swagman. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on the 1 up usa rack with fat adapters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker22 View Post
    Have any of you guys found a good reciver hitch rack that will acomidate 3.7" plus tires?


    Our Yakima rack carries our Pugs no problem with 4" tires.

    Previously I used a Swagman XC hitch rack that was similar to this Yakima rack and it worked fine on several trip from Canada to Baja and back with the Pugs.
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    Hey Sonic Death Monkey,
    Have you ever had any issues with the ratchet arm coming loose because it's not back against the steer tube? With all the Fatbike rack threads, yours is the only bike sporting fenders. I have the fenders from Big O MFG out of MLPS and am looking at a Kuat NV.

    With the bike facing right (like yours), I'm thinking I will only get the ratchet arm to about 1:00, or maybe 12:30.

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slarti View Post
    Hey Sonic Death Monkey,
    Have you ever had any issues with the ratchet arm coming loose because it's not back against the steer tube? With all the Fatbike rack threads, yours is the only bike sporting fenders. I have the fenders from Big O MFG out of MLPS and am looking at a Kuat NV.

    With the bike facing right (like yours), I'm thinking I will only get the ratchet arm to about 1:00, or maybe 12:30.

    Thx

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    With the newer, longer arm, the only thing limiting where you clamp down on the top of the tire is the fender itself. I've never had issues with the setup pictured above.

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    Hollywood makes fat trays that fit the swagman rack. I found them online for $40 and they work great. Only have a week of use so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by dvn View Post
    I modified (cut and welded wider) the tire hoops on my Swagman to fit fat tires. I've never had a ton of confidence in the construction of the Swagman. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on the 1 up usa rack with fat adapters.
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    I found a Hollywood rack (HR200-FB) that comes with both the fat bike hoops and hoops to fit normal sized tires for around $290.

    Is Hollywood a quality brand comparable to Thule, Yakima, Saris, etc?

    Seems like the Hollywood racks are sold under a variety of brand names, or there are several very similar products.

    Looking for as much feedback as possible before I invest in a hitch + rack - thanks.

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    Thule T2 Fat Tire Kit

    Thule makes a Fat Tire Kit that works with their T2 racks. It will fit tire sizes up to 5".

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    Got a set of these for my Saris Freedom 2 rack a while back. They work great and come with the long straps.

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