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    E-Thirteen dropper review: best post for winter use?

    I’ve been running 9.8 styled posts for a few years, Race Face, Easton, and the actual 9.8 brand. They’re good posts when it’s warm and dry, but they tend to slip when wet and cold weather return is poor.

    I looked at a lot of posts, did some test fitting, trying to find a post that minimal insert length, all season performance, reasonable cost, good lever, and internal actuation. I read the reviews on the E-Thirteen, early version had a weak spring, but they seemed to have fixed that issue, ease of rebuild and cost were excellent, so I sprung for one in a 125mm.

    First install with a new style post is always a bit long, but overall the install was pretty straightforward , cable end is mounted at the post, then adjusted at the lever, which is is a much better design for install and removal. The lever is simply the best design I’ve seen, two position on the mount, infinite rotation positioning on the lever, grippy lever face, lots of adjustment at the lever, and hidden cable after cutting.

    Seat adjustment is standard two bolt slider; 25t star socket is a nice touch, angleometer for precision seat adjustment, functional and solid

    Performance is good, four preset positions, solid clunk when it raises and lowers into position, return is faster from all the way down, but return from upper position to full up is good. This is not a jewel buster post like some of the air actuated posts.
    Return sounds more mechanical than hydraulic or air posts. The post is tight up and down, side to side, no wiggle.

    No cold weather feedback as it’s still warm here, but I suspect it’ll function the same warm or cold as steel springs are more resistant to temperature than oil, air, and rubber seals.

    For $250, this post is a winner, two thumbs up.

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    Ben, I've also been interested in this post. Are you using this on the Wozo? Any particular reason you went with 125mm vs 150mm?

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    How difficult is it to get it into the mid preset positions?

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    I’m using it on my Fatillac, went with 125mm because the insertion is limited.

    All settings are easy to get into, once you push the lever the seat will move up or down depending on seat pressure; there are only two mid points, so not much to it.

    I like it better than Gravity; better lever, better action, internal routing, comparable price, and I believe the E-thirteen is lighter.

    For me, a dropper needs three positions: all the way up for climbing and gravel grinding, slightly down for rolling tech with climbing, or slammed on the down. E-thirteen throws in a fourth position of “slightly up”, which might be nice for rolling downs where you want a touch of support.

    What surprised me with the E-thirteen is the insertion is shorter than the same length 9.8 by about an inch, so very cool for those of us with a bent or broken seat post tube.

    I’d get a 150mm for my Wozo if the Race Face fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    I looked at a lot of posts, did some test fitting, trying to find a post that minimal insert length, all season performance, reasonable cost, good lever, and internal actuation. I read the reviews on the E-Thirteen, early version had a weak spring, but they seemed to have fixed that issue, ease of rebuild and cost were excellent, so I sprung for one in a 125mm.

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    No cold weather feedback as it’s still warm here, but I suspect it’ll function the same warm or cold as steel springs are more resistant to temperature than oil, air, and rubber seals.
    I just outfitted my new Rocky Mountain Suzie Q -30 (2017) with an E-Thirteen 125 mm dropper post. I too liked the price and the idea that it might deal well with the cold. It was 8° F when I commuted to work on it and the dropper was working just fine -- cycled it a bunch of times on the way in. Went out for a ride at lunch on the local new "Schoolyard" trails with a cold wind at 19° F and ran the dropper through some real world use -- flawless. So the first attempt for me in cold has it working well.

    I like the predetermined stops on this post -- they're in the right place. I have a Fox Transfer on my main ride and it too works very well. But I think I might prefer the E-Thirteen's predetermined stops. I can almost never get the Fox to have that "1 inch lower" spot that works well on some fast twisty stuff that also begs for a reasonable pedaling stroke while seated. The Fox has helped up well, and I hope the E-Thirteen does too.

    So, thank you "Nurse Ben" for posting a review of the E-Thirteen dropper -- I found one at a good price and am looking forward to using it on true snow bike rides -- we have just a couple of windblown inches at present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptor View Post
    I just outfitted my new Rocky Mountain Suzie Q -30 (2017) with an E-Thirteen 125 mm dropper post. I too liked the price and the idea that it might deal well with the cold. It was 8° F when I commuted to work on it and the dropper was working just fine -- cycled it a bunch of times on the way in. Went out for a ride at lunch on the local new "Schoolyard" trails with a cold wind at 19° F and ran the dropper through some real world use -- flawless. So the first attempt for me in cold has it working well.

    I like the predetermined stops on this post -- they're in the right place. I have a Fox Transfer on my main ride and it too works very well. But I think I might prefer the E-Thirteen's predetermined stops. I can almost never get the Fox to have that "1 inch lower" spot that works well on some fast twisty stuff that also begs for a reasonable pedaling stroke while seated. The Fox has helped up well, and I hope the E-Thirteen does too.

    So, thank you "Nurse Ben" for posting a review of the E-Thirteen dropper -- I found one at a good price and am looking forward to using it on true snow bike rides -- we have just a couple of windblown inches at present.
    Any thoughts on the Fox in cold weather? I have a Thomson and the manual says the lower temperature limit is 4 F. I rode in in the mid-20s F last week and the return speed was so slow that its use case became more of a "drop then stand and pedal for ~5 seconds" before I could sit again. I was thinking about swapping for the Fox dropper (I'm a fan of the infinitely adjustable vs the multi-position) but I'm trying to find info on its cold weather performance first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strikeir13 View Post
    Any thoughts on the Fox in cold weather?
    My Fox Transfer (Kashima coated if that makes a difference) has worked the same at all temps, with the low being only the mid-20s so far. I do not notice any return speed problems over hundreds of "drops" on rides in the mid-20s to mid-30s (F). I expect I'll get a chance to try it out in single digits eventually, but my part of the Rockies has been (comparatively) sweltering so far this winter.

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    I've never run a Fox, but I have run all three 9.8 products as well as a KS Lev. I have had slow or no returns on all of these posts as well as slipping.

    The E Thirteen won't be affected by cold because the design is cold proof; steel spring and preset positions. Just grease the internals once in a while and keep it clean.

    The only concerns I have for the E Thirteen are premature wear or spring fatigue. We'll need more time to flush these issues out; if they are issues.

    So far I've had no problems with mine, easy to find positions, really like the first position for pedaling over rough terrain or when my knees need a little position change. Use up and full down the most. No looseness so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by strikeir13 View Post
    Any thoughts on the Fox in cold weather? I have a Thomson and the manual says the lower temperature limit is 4 F. I rode in in the mid-20s F last week and the return speed was so slow that its use case became more of a "drop then stand and pedal for ~5 seconds" before I could sit again. I was thinking about swapping for the Fox dropper (I'm a fan of the infinitely adjustable vs the multi-position) but I'm trying to find info on its cold weather performance first.

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    No issues with the Fox in cold weather. Don't know about 4 F though. I thought the "infinite adjustable" would be much better, but to be honest it's a lot easier to hit a great position with the E-thirteen than with the Fox, just like Nurse Ben said. And the E-thirteen's remote lever is much better than the Fox. But it's not like I'll change out the Fox anytime soon.
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    How has the ethirteen performed in the cold this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by in the trees View Post
    How has the ethirteen performed in the cold this season?
    My experience is all good so far. Probably a dozen rides in the cold (below freezing, mostly teens and twenties of the Fahrenheit variety) with several hundred dropper activations and no stickiness, no problems. I still wouldn't count that as a long term review, but it is working well. I'm a lot less frustrated when remounting on soft snow when I can have a low seat height to get back on. Getting started again on a narrow track with soft snow to the sides drove me nuts last year, and the dropper has solved that particular issue quite well.
    And when is it ever a drawback to have an easy way to lower the seat on descents?
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    I currently have a 2017 125mm internal on my Wednesday and a 2018 125mm external on my fatillac. Having ridden 4 different fox transfers year round for the past 2 years, they are *perfect* down to 0 degrees. Any colder than that, and well, i wuss out.

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    I have two fox transfer posts, one with a lot of flawless miles and the other a fresh install on my Wozo fat bike. My first ride in sub zero temps on the transfer it blew a seal and needed a rebuild. I switched to the e13 post and I’m happy with it. Worked just fine at -8 degrees on Saturday.

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