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    Rim strips are for sissies:
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcaino View Post
    I think this step is oft overlooked. Definitely the best way to ensure the tape has a good seal. Also good idea if the tires are new to help get the bead to shape.
    Agree. I didn't do it on my 29er rims and paid the price. Had to re-set up my tubeless setup in Colorado when I burped on a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    So, I got some new wheels brewing, some special blue tape (thanks Mike), some stans valves and goo, and some tubeless ready tires. Am i gonna be all set, or do I need to take some scissors to a set of tubes and make some rim strips?
    I ask here, because the hoops on the new wheels are the br710.
    Just use a rim strip and the tape you got from Mike, or go split tube - not both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmk View Post
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    I think this looks awesome!
    Can you elaborate on this process?
    You used a vacuum bag?
    What size and where can you buy it?
    Did you use anything else like glue or tape to keep it in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit21 View Post
    Just use a rim strip and the tape you got from Mike, or go split tube - not both.
    Thanks, I'll let ya'll know how I make out.

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    DT Swiss BR2250 Rim

    I picked my wheels up yesterday, the tape went on kind of sloppy, but settled in nicely with a tube/tire pumped up over night.
    Before-after.

    Edit: it's largely a technique based thing. And having the right tools. A decent size compressor is a must, as is some tubing and a good air nozzle. After that, as long as your tape job is good, you're all set.
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    I had some tough luck with this blue stuff. 3 times, 2 different wraps, it just wouldn't seal up. Gorilla tape worked like a charm first try (again). It's not ideal, cuz it's certainly heavier, but it'll do for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I had some tough luck with this blue stuff. 3 times, 2 different wraps, it just wouldn't seal up. Gorilla tape worked like a charm first try (again). It's not ideal, cuz it's certainly heavier, but it'll do for now.
    What specific tape are you referring to when you say "this blue stuff"? 3M 8898?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I had some tough luck with this blue stuff. 3 times, 2 different wraps, it just wouldn't seal up. Gorilla tape worked like a charm first try (again). It's not ideal, cuz it's certainly heavier, but it'll do for now.
    It may have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but it's important to pull the tape *really* tight when installing, and equally important to install a tire/tube aired up to ~20psi for a few hours to get the tape stuck down good before proceeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c0nsumer View Post
    What specific tape are you referring to when you say "this blue stuff"? 3M 8898?
    Yes.

    Edit, and it definitely sat overnight, with a tube installed to get it all set up. For whatever reason it seeped. Seeped enough that I'd have had to rely on the stans to seal it up, which isn't necessarily confidence inspiring.

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    how do these compare to carbon hoops? They seem to be pretty close weight wise, but how flexy are they in comparison to carbon?

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    Writing about the spech's one: Not worth being replace by Carbon hoops because of weight, strong etc. As for flexy, i'm not shure you can tell the difference between it and a nextie 65 but i know i can't. ;o)

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    So, I still haven't set my BR2250 wheels back up as tubeless, but when I do I'm going to try one of two things:

    1) I got a set of the Fatty Stripper latex rim strips (FattyStripper Tubeless Solutions) and they look like they'll work out great.

    2) I got a line on 96mm polypropelyene tape. Basically, the same as Stan's stuff... I should have a roll by the end of next week. This should be able to go bead to bead, which'd be ideal.

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    Those fattie latex strips look like a very nice solution.

    It looks like I need to rewrap the rear with plastic wrap this weekend. I've never had tubeless set up problems on my 29ers.

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    These issues don't come up with non-hole-y rims either, particularly ones that also have bead locks.

    I think carbon rims with a bead lock are the proper way to go, then you'll just need a wee strip of tape to seal the spoke holes. (Or go the HED route with rubber gaskets around the spokes.)

    But, for those of us who are not up for paying for that, additional measures will have to be taken...

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    I was surprised how much leakage I got around the spoke holes with the saran wrap. Also my cur rate (amazon sourced Chinese) valve stems have not been a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbwallace View Post
    I was surprised how much leakage I got around the spoke holes with the saran wrap. Also my cur rate (amazon sourced Chinese) valve stems have not been a winner.
    I'm not. Plastic wrap like that is incredibly thin.

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    Technique is key and strength is in numbers for the plastic wrap method. I've had reliable results with 10-15 wrappings (it really doesn't weight much). Also it helps to put the wrap on so that the tires torque tightens it rather than loosens it. Be sure to carefully mount the tire and use plenty of soapy water spray to keep the tire from ripping holes in the wrap layers.

    Finally, I got this tip from the fattystrippers owner- use a small piece of tube as a washer under the valve stem. This gives a better valve stem seal.

    I also bought a set of the fattystripper liners and some of their bling strips and will be mounting them up with my snow tires. I'm hoping they are remountable solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    I also bought a set of the fattystripper liners and some of their bling strips and will be mounting them up with my snow tires. I'm hoping they are remountable solution.
    I also bought a set and think they'll do well with the spray adhesive method he recommends.
    For now, I'm giving 8898 tape another go - last time, I wasn't aware of the tire-with-tube conditioning to fully seal the tape seams. I'll have the fattystrippers as a backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Finally, I got this tip from the fattystrippers owner- use a small piece of tube as a washer under the valve stem. This gives a better valve stem seal.
    I picked up some small rubber washers from Lowe's that I'm going to use for the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttakata73 View Post
    I think this looks awesome!
    Can you elaborate on this process?
    You used a vacuum bag?
    What size and where can you buy it?
    Did you use anything else like glue or tape to keep it in place?
    Any hot seal-able plastic will work. No glue or tape needed, but you can add layers of "what ever" between the rim and the plastic, if you want to minimize the risk of puncture trough the rim holes. Have used this for this summer and there's been zero problems. I used a green laminating plastic (for vacuum packing) the other day when I switched to Knards: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s..._41_21_Pro.jpg

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    I wish DT made them at 65 mm. According to my unscientific calculations they would be around 560 grams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scot_douglas View Post
    I also bought a set and think they'll do well with the spray adhesive method he recommends.
    For now, I'm giving 8898 tape another go - last time, I wasn't aware of the tire-with-tube conditioning to fully seal the tape seams. I'll have the fattystrippers as a backup.
    How did the FattyStripper install go? Any feedback?

    An install video was posted after you got your rimstrips... Installation of FatBike Tubeless RimStrips

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    Still waiting for snow - Hand studded a set of snowshoe XL's and just bought a set of JJ 4.8" tires....

    Decisions, decisions.

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    In for this thread as I now own these wheels. Having read thru this thread, it sounds like Gorilla Tape works. And is easiest.

    I think I'll go that route
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    Kind of reviving an old thread here, but has anyone used the Mulefut tubeless kit? I have Mulefut's on my Farley and those are almost as holey as these rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AthleticAL View Post
    In for this thread as I now own these wheels. Having read thru this thread, it sounds like Gorilla Tape works. And is easiest.

    I think I'll go that route
    I know this is 9 months ago, but hope you didn't find out the hard way how sucky it is to remove gorilla tape residue. I won't ever be doing that again. Easiest way is split tubeless. And much cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
    Looks to be knock off of the Specialized Fatboy Rim. Could use any old rim tape or the rim strip available from Specialized.

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    Hi Guys. I'm looking for an all-round/lighter wheelset for my Salsa Blackborow. I have the stock wheel set (clownshoe on salsa hub) with Bud and Lou. I mainly ride groom single track during winter, maybe 25% softer snow or more challenging conditions. During summer, my Blackborow is my "backup bike" but still see a lot of technical single track.

    My initial plan was to build a 65mm chinese wheelset (LB or nexties on DTswiss hub). I would use it with JJ 4.8 in the summer to get a rounder profile and maybe with studded tire for icy condition or very firm groomed conditions in the winter. I would keep my clown shoe wheelset for softer snow. In seems Dtswiss BR2250 wheelset could be another option for my need. 2 pounds lighter than my clown shoe, better hub, rounder profil in the summer. I could either keep my clownshoes or stud my bud/lou and use BR2250 as my one and only wheel set.

    The Dtswiss wheelset is 880$can plus duties. Big ride hubs+plus chinese carbon hoops at least 1000$ plus duties + spokes/built fees (no idea how much more it represents).

    What do you guys think? Nothing like real world experience! Thanks in advance

    EDIT: price for BR2250 WITH star ratchet upgrade and chinese without. So more like 1100can$ vs 880 for BR2250
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    I run DTSwiss on Nexties, they are great wheels.

    The main benefit of those carbon rims is the ease of going tubeless. Instead of needing to worry about the cutouts and covering such a wide area with a cut tube or layers of really wide tape and a rim strip, you just need one or two thin loops of tape over the spoke holes.

    But, the trade-off is that the DT Swiss rims are more robust for rock strikes and whatnot.
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