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    double takes and fatbike riding

    Alright, so I've been noticing this for a while but today brought things to a whole new level. I LOVE my moonlander. I ride the full flat, 6 psi style, everywhere. Gimme sand, singletrack, or pavement and i'm there. Since the first ride home from the shop, I'm talking day one, people took note of the tires and on that first day I didn't mind it. Hell, I was pumped to witness this crazy bike it was like people were joining in on my smiles, like they could feel the excitement. Even now, the occasional "Those are some big tires!" or just a "waaaaahoooooo" does me good. With all that said, it's been getting old ...

    Today a car pulled up next to me and the DRIVER pulled out is phone and took a picture of me, point blank, while on my bike (he was to the right of me in the turning lane, I was going straight). He was so close I thought about slapping the droid from his greasy hands.

    This is a part of fat bikes I never envisioned. Any similar experiences?

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    Every single time.
    We make and sell these, so I don't complain one bit about the attention
    Only problem is that my training rides get broken up by folks asking questions, but that comes with the territory.
    Especially car drivers seem to notice, I guess it is because they are sitting level with the tires and get a better viewing angle than other riders and pedestrians.
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    I was getting lots of attention on the Pugsley and thought I was used to it by now.
    Just scored a Moonlander over the weekend and you should see the attention it attracts. Gaudy yellow Clownshoes not helping to tone things down

    Wouldn't be a happy camper in your shoes with the pic snapping-- but its probably in his enthusiasm it was forgotten how dangerous that could have been. I have seen cyclist who kept looking at my Pugs and fell into a ditch...

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    Since I've been commuting on my Pug, I've not had any single driver yell anything at me. I think they're too bewildered. At any rate, drivers give the Pug a wider berth when passing. Perhaps its easier to see? Either that, or it just can't be ignored.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    True about the yellow rims.
    I run custom gold anodized versions of our new 103mm rims, and that took the attention gain to a whole new level
    Compton style ridin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    True about the yellow rims.
    I run custom gold anodized versions of our new 103mm rims, and that took the attention gain to a whole new level
    Compton style ridin'
    pics or you're making that up
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    I love the look of a fatbike as much as anyone. However, the fatbike community is missing an opportunity of doing something different when in comes to racing and promoting this sport.

    In the winter, fatbikes rule. However, if the sport is to go mainstream. It must appeal to the majority. Yet, most still Think of a fatbike as a winter sport.

    With local groups lacking the funding. Fatbikes only in the hands of the minority. We as fatbikers should try to expand beyond the norm. Why we choose to run the same style of races that everyone has been doing since the beginning. Racers lineup, first one across the line wins.

    Because in most cycling group's only a Few own a fatbike. So, getting more riders on these and into the sport would seem to be the priory.

    Also, summer racing xc events all seem to run the same style format. What if fatbikes had a different style of race? Something that would bring more spectators, racer's and eventually more involvement. I feel it would grow at a faster rate while creating note excitement.

    I call it fat bike relays...

    You would have 4 or 5 members to a team. (This saves money, instead of one family coming to a race you have 4 or 5 families coming out per team)
    Thus, increasing exposure.

    Two, it would be formatted like relay races that you did in school. However, the had off would be the bike and a wristband. What's missing at most standard format racing is drama. This is created at the moment of exchange, were anything can happen.

    As the sports grows, the exchange of the bike can be reduced to just the wristband.

    Rules are simple. The wristband must be in place before forward movement would be allowed, If the racer were to drop his or her wristband they would need to pick it up before forward progress is allowed. This creates drama along with excitement for both. Riders and Spectator, something that missing for the normal format.

    The tire size that would qualify to run this event we can workout together.
    I have more to add for this but don't have the time at this moment.

    Thought's?

    No I'm not crazy.

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    Tablet, auto correct. Suck! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob View Post
    pics or you're making that up
    Here ye go, Sir:

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    23lbs as in the picture. Will hit 21.5lbs today on Vee Speedsters and custom 15g Tyvek rimstrips.
    Proto rims in the picture, front weighs 850g, rear 950. Production versions will come in at approx. 895g
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    23? Is that steel tubing I see?

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    Ppl are no longer impressed by my pug's 65mm rim.. I know I wouldn't be either if I saw one of them garbage rolling diwn the street.. Need triple digits to really impress the masses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espen W View Post
    Here ye go, Sir:

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    23lbs as in the picture. Will hit 21.5lbs today on Vee Speedsters and custom 15g Tyvek rimstrips.
    Proto rims in the picture, front weighs 850g, rear 950. Production versions will come in at approx. 895g
    Never mind the 21.5lb 23lb is gonna make a lot of panties drop around my local trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogman View Post
    23? Is that steel tubing I see?
    23lbs and soon to shed a pound and a half with Speedsters and ultralight rimstrips, then another one point five when I set it up for 1x, testing for possible Mk4 use.
    1295g proto alloy frame and 650g alloy fork (fork ready for production use on Mk3)
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    Quote Originally Posted by float nasty View Post
    This is a part of fat bikes I never envisioned. Any similar experiences?
    +1 - it gets really old. One thing I love about the Krampus is I can be riding a relatively "odd" bike with my buddy on his Muk and he gets 100% of the attention and nobody even looks twice at my bike - except the real bike geeks who I don't mind talking to.

    In Baja when I pass a bunch of gawkers who I know are going to ask a lot of idiotic questions I speed up and head for the deepest beach sand I can find. I figure that demonstrates what the big tires are for and I can get out of there without explaining.

    Inevitably the fat tires lead to lots of interactions. You gotta be ready for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    In Baja when I pass a bunch of gawkers who I know are going to ask a lot of idiotic questions I speed up and head for the deepest beach sand I can find. I figure that demonstrates what the big tires are for and I can get out of there without explaining.
    Ah yes, just let the bike speak for itself.

    I don't mind the inquiring minds, though mostly I just keep rolling. Sometimes I'll stop and have a chat if the people look interesting enough.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    TBH, I kinda enjoy the attention and the opportunity to "evangelize" a bit about the glory of Fat Bikes.

    I have a local loop I occasionally ride my Fat Bike (mostly when I can't make it out to the trails) that consists of sidewalks on some very heavily traveled roads (I usually ride this around evening rush). Invariably I will get the honk & wave several times, and occasionally someone will stop and ask questions.

    I figure that the more popular Fat Bikes become, the more equipment choices we will ultimately have. It's in our long-term self-interest to act as "ambassadors of phatness". Besides, talking bikes always makes me less grumpy!

    ps. When racing, the Fat Bike ALWAYS seems to grab a disproportionate amount of female attention (they think Fat Bikes are "cute"). This doesn't suck.
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    My fat bike gets attention everywhere I take it. Its always the same thing "those are huge tires!" I ride it to work, I ride it out on the trails, heck I ride it everywhere. I even raced it down at the sea otter classic this year and the comments I was getting on it were great. It kept me going. I had one guy ask to draft behind me on one of the sandy roads. The best part was riding in to the finish on it. People were screaming at me towards the end, especially since I was in a sprint against someone else at the finish. Guess who won?

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    I rode a 100 mile event this past spring for fun on my Moonlander--all pavement. There were about 4000 people there and I think about 3000 of them had a comment for me. The only one that started to bother me was "Hey fatty!" :-). I was more disappointed that I only saw one other fatbike there.
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    I also get the "look at those tires!" Comments. But I also slow traffic while transporting my bike on the highway. I'll be in the slow lane, somebody will stay behind me in the fast lane, I'll check my mirrors and they are either looking at my bike or taking pictures of it. Then if I'm stopped on my bike I'll be randomly approached with the "Look at those tires!" followed by them squeezing my tires with their hands; that happens enough that I almost feel violated lol.

    The attention does get old as others have said. But, I remind myself to smile and answer people's questions as they are enthusiastic about the bike and had never seen anything like it. However, when I get the inevitable "how much did that cost?" they quickly lose interest.

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    Trailcrawler, when it comes to being violated, I know dat feel bro.

    I've had my ML over a year now. I've become increasingly annoyed by the attention. I get it, but I don't have to like it.

    Women seem most impressed while guys are largely indifferent. No penile competition I guess? And bigger is better? lol

    Funny story time:

    I was riding my ML in muddy conditions at a local mountain, came mobbing around a turn before hitting the parking lot, passed a deputy sheriff on foot. He walked up to my car to see wtf I was riding. He thought I had a motor on it (motorized a no-no there)! After the usual Fat Bike Education Session, I was on my way.

    I've also had people wave me down to ask questions. Once on the bike, several times at red lights while driving with it on the rack. One guy actually blocked an intersection to get me to pull over so he could ask questions. He knew the bike right away, had been pondering getting one. At the time it was like seeing a bald eagle I suppose. Still though, wtf people?! My bike is a celebrity and they're the paparazzi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Roads View Post
    The only one that started to bother me was "Hey fatty!" :-).
    My wife and I took fats to the big city last weekend and she couldn't believe all the attention we got. And about the "fatty" comment, I feel women are a little more sensitive about all the "fat", "fatty", and "does this bike make me look fat" comments.

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    I consider myself an excellent fatbassador. I get at least 3-4 comments on my 4 mile trip to work (fairly low travel city roads), the occasional stoplight conversation. Its 100x worse in the winter.

    I get stopped every time I ride my bike, whether its on trails or in the city. I often have cars pull up and snap a ton of pictures alongside me. I do a lot of events with my fatbike (mostly road so i can still get a workout when I'm riding with my GF) and the amount of comments are just insane. I often feel like a celebrity. Gets kinda old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    My wife and I took fats to the big city last weekend and she couldn't believe all the attention we got. And about the "fatty" comment, I feel women are a little more sensitive about all the "fat", "fatty", and "does this bike make me look fat" comments.
    I always tell people that I ride the bike to make my ass look skinnier. Then I ask them how it's working.
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    Sure, it can be annoying when you're trying to get somewhere, but let's try to remember that we were there once too, and if the rider we were drilling for info was an impatient prick, we might never have taken the next step ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker Factor View Post
    Sure, it can be annoying when you're trying to get somewhere, but let's try to remember that we were there once too, and if the rider we were drilling for info was an impatient prick, we might never have taken the next step ourselves.
    Wise words. I always internalize my annoyance. I usually act like a happyass fat bike zealot, so the impression is positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pucker Factor View Post
    but let's try to remember that we were there once too, and if the rider we were drilling for info was an impatient prick, we might never have taken the next step ourselves.
    I don't mind answering semi-intelligent questions, but there are only so many times you can get "...Dude those tires are HUGE????..." and come back with a chill response.

    One option if you want to mess with people is to just tell them that they are normal MTB tire that you inflated to 500psi.
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    Float nasty - I have exactly the same experiences. I live in northern Virginia, where everyone thinks they're in the Tour de France. I ride a Moonlander. A fat bike here is seldom seen, if at all. Most of the people I run into either just smile, ask a question, or make a stupid comment. I'm tired of hearing "Look at those tires.........." Some seem adamant in believing fat tires are only for sand or only for snow and want to argue about it. I have to explain the tires are for any surface on the planet and I've ridden the 'lander on snow, ice, sand, gravel, dirt, etc. - even up concrete stairs in a park. Many ask how much the bike weighs. When they find out how much they moan that it is too heavy for them and it's not carbon. I respond by saying that's the whole idea........exercise. Duh.
    Three days ago, I finished the Potomac Pedalers Century on my 'lander with BFL tires. The only one on a fatbike. Hundreds of questions, comments, and stares. I should have had a press conference before and after the ride. A real freak show. Most people are not very well read and are not very observant.
    I'm 65. I love the 'lander. My titanium road bike is collecting dust. I may even sell it.
    I hope fatbikes catch on in my area so I don't have to keep answering so many annoying questions from the uninformed.
    Next stop - my 15th Seagull Century. On the 'lander. Got to do something different this time.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeDork View Post
    Women seem most impressed while guys are largely indifferent. No penile competition I guess? And bigger is better? lol
    I don't notice much difference in attention from men or women. In fact there were two instances where they were being a bit snobbish towards me.

    First instance: I stop at a nearby bike shop on the way home from work, somebody comes over to ask if I need help, I asked if they had a rear rack that would fit a fat bike. They weren't sure so they suggested to bring it in the shop and see if one of theirs fits. So I roll it in there, the employees all came over to check it out had all kinds of questions, but one of the mechanics wasn't very enthusiastic about it and just couldn't understand why I would want to ride THAT on anything other than snow. And he prefers light weight mtn bikes.... Personally I don't care what anybody else rides, it's their money and their choice what they ride and as long as their happy that's all that matters.

    Second instance: I was looking for a front rack and was checking all the bike shops if they had something that fits. One shop (where I bought my last mtn. Bike about 8or 9 years ago) I pushed the bike in the shop the lady (I think she was the shop owner or manager, she sold me my last bike and was always there whenever stopped there for something) came to the front counter. I said "Hi, would you have any front racks that would fit this bike?". She looked over the counter for all of two seconds and said "no, your fork doesn't accept racks" I said sure it does they are just expensive, just trying to find something cheaper. She quickly said after that "we don't have any racks that will fit your bike". All the while the customer behind d me returned from a test ride and was all over my bike. So after she dismissed me I turned around and gave the customer all the details on my fat bike which I think he was sold on :-)

    I never had an issue with her before. I bought a mtn bike from there, another bike for my sister, a few accessories and a trainer. This instance, the moment she looked at the bike she acted a bit irritated that I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utabintarbo View Post
    I always tell people that I ride the bike to make my ass look skinnier. Then I ask them how it's working.
    Love it! My favorite response is "size DOES matter, eh?" and then I pull a hard wheelie to show that big front tire off.

    I was riding around town with a friend and I told him to ride a little behind me and check out people's expressions. He said they were priceless. I think that was the ride I almost caused a wreck too.

    I get the motor comment ALL THE TIME. Maybe second most comment after "those are big tires." I have a frame bag and tons of other junk hanging on my bike and it all just adds to the confusion for people. My response as I slap my thigh: "I got motors right here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailCrawler View Post
    I don't notice much difference in attention from men or women. In fact there were two instances where they were being a bit snobbish towards me.

    First instance: I stop at a nearby bike shop on the way home from work, somebody comes over to ask if I need help, I asked if they had a rear rack that would fit a fat bike. They weren't sure so they suggested to bring it in the shop and see if one of theirs fits. So I roll it in there, the employees all came over to check it out had all kinds of questions, but one of the mechanics wasn't very enthusiastic about it and just couldn't understand why I would want to ride THAT on anything other than snow. And he prefers light weight mtn bikes.... Personally I don't care what anybody else rides, it's their money and their choice what they ride and as long as their happy that's all that matters.

    Second instance: I was looking for a front rack and was checking all the bike shops if they had something that fits. One shop (where I bought my last mtn. Bike about 8or 9 years ago) I pushed the bike in the shop the lady (I think she was the shop owner or manager, she sold me my last bike and was always there whenever stopped there for something) came to the front counter. I said "Hi, would you have any front racks that would fit this bike?". She looked over the counter for all of two seconds and said "no, your fork doesn't accept racks" I said sure it does they are just expensive, just trying to find something cheaper. She quickly said after that "we don't have any racks that will fit your bike". All the while the customer behind d me returned from a test ride and was all over my bike. So after she dismissed me I turned around and gave the customer all the details on my fat bike which I think he was sold on :-)

    I never had an issue with her before. I bought a mtn bike from there, another bike for my sister, a few accessories and a trainer. This instance, the moment she looked at the bike she acted a bit irritated that I was there.
    Oh man, indeed the naysaying gets old real fast. It's often from people who have never ridden a fat bike, or only had a short spin on one. I don't think they know/understand the science of rolling resistance and tire deflection.

    Think of every place a fat bike can go then replace it with any other type of bike to see just how versatile a fat bike is. The only place a fat bike can't go is on your old rack (without ghetto modification)! lol

    A friend gives me grief for owning a fat bike. He said he rode another guy's on a pumptrack and was "amused". I asked him how his FS Stumpy 29er would perform on a pumptrack. No reply. lol

    Nothing bugs me more than willful ignorance and subsequent dismissal of things one does not understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I don't mind answering semi-intelligent questions, but there are only so many times you can get "...Dude those tires are HUGE????..." and come back with a chill response.

    One option if you want to mess with people is to just tell them that they are normal MTB tire that you inflated to 500psi.
    Yep, I get tired of the chill responses too ... I'm stealing that last line. You just made me laugh way too hard in a place I wasn't supposed to be laughing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgurney View Post
    My titanium road bike is collecting dust. I may even sell it.
    I've sold my road bike and am considering parting with the dual suss ... I've never embraced fun more on a bike than on my fattie.

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    Over here, people just love fatbikes, but occasionally, there will be some clown making a silly comment as he passes me while I'm just rolling along in Zone 1. Now, I don't have a UCI Pro licence this year (we discontinued our Pro team) but I did last year, and I'm much faster this year, much thanks to close to 1100 hours on the bike this past year (and tons of them on the fat in deep snow), so such comments can turn into some entertaining situations. After being smoked by 4.5'' wide tires, the guy always gets off the fireroad so that he don't have to pass me when I slow down again.

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    On the road too, at 55kmh (35mph+)

    Can't wait to get the Vee Speedsters on and drop the weight to 21.5lbs. Road hillclimb time
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgurney View Post
    I hope fatbikes catch on in my area so I don't have to keep answering so many annoying questions from the uninformed.
    Next stop - my 15th Seagull Century. On the 'lander. Got to do something different this time.........
    What is your area? A few of us hit Wakefield on the MORE night rides during the week.

    I did the Seagull Century last year on my fat bike. So many people laughing, shaking their head, taking pics. Be ready for a lot of conversations
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    Ah yes. "Catch the roadie" - one of my favorite games.
    Oh noes. I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid.

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    Try getting the first one in your country!

    Felt like i was from Mars...

    Most folk grin, if it makes them smile too then thats cool
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    I just scream at people that it's not nice to stare... and I'm TRYYYING to lose the spare tire... no need to tell me it's huge.
    ...Be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back...

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    Drevil - Ashburn. I'm sure this year's Seagull will be just like the Potomac Pedaler's Back Roads Century, only more magnified by the bigger crowd. I think last years event had about 8000 riders. Hopefully the weather will be good this year and not a repeat of 2006!

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    When I ride on the beach (where it's not crowded). I feel that the park rangers are thinking "we have to come up with a new rule for this".

    I'm tired of the attention also. When questioned why I ride it. I say it makes me smile every time I ride it. And that's the point enjoy what your doing.

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    It's starting to get old... I hear a lot of comments and I try to be as good of an ambassador as I can. My most chill response is a dry, midwestern "yup." ;-)
    the questions that concern me, are in certain neighborhoods here in Philly, I'm often asked "How much do you pay fo dat?" it's less a sincere question, than it is a matter of sizing me up (I'm 6'8" & 275 pounds) to see if the bike is worth stealing (and going through me to get it.) At that point, I usually mention that they can get a Walgoose for $200 and pick up my pace...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    It's starting to get old... I hear a lot of comments and I try to be as good of an ambassador as I can. My most chill response is a dry, midwestern "yup." ;-)
    the questions that concern me, are in certain neighborhoods here in Philly, I'm often asked "How much do you pay fo dat?" it's less a sincere question, than it is a matter of sizing me up (I'm 6'8" & 275 pounds) to see if the bike is worth stealing (and going through me to get it.) At that point, I usually mention that they can get a Walgoose for $200 and pick up my pace...
    One of the reasons I do not commute on this bike yet. It draws too much attention and I have to ride through some bad neighborhoods to get to work. I have been thinking about getting a narrower wheel set in the 50mm range so I could run skinnier tires when I commute and still run fat on the trail for 3 seasons and use my 80's for winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    It's starting to get old... I hear a lot of comments and I try to be as good of an ambassador as I can. My most chill response is a dry, midwestern "yup." ;-)
    the questions that concern me, are in certain neighborhoods here in Philly, I'm often asked "How much do you pay fo dat?" it's less a sincere question, than it is a matter of sizing me up (I'm 6'8" & 275 pounds) to see if the bike is worth stealing (and going through me to get it.) At that point, I usually mention that they can get a Walgoose for $200 and pick up my pace...
    Funny...that is usually the most common question I get when riding through the rough neighborhoods here in the city. I usually say a couple hundred, you just have to pre-order it. (Not that they'll take the time to prove me a liar) But I also get some friendly waves and thumbs up from the crowd as well. There are a couple old fellas that are usually outside on my trip downtown that typically have a High Life in hand that always get a kick out of me braaapin' on down the asphalt.

    The main question I get is "What are those tires for?"

    I've come to just answer, simply, "Anything and everywhere.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul34 View Post
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    The main question I get is "What are those tires for?"
    "To keep the rims from scraping on the ground."

    Let the market decide!

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    I was out riding earlier this summer with Bud n Lou on my Moonlander. I stopped to talk to a hiker on the trail. He was probably getting close to 80 years old. He told me that if he ever got a mountain bike, he wanted one that looked like mine. I really admired his optimism.

    I was riding my bike at Outdoor Demo and even though there were fat bikes everywhere, I still had people taking photos of mine. I guess if someone actually owns and rides one, it's different than demo models.

    I especially like running into teenagers and the early 20's crowd. I gain instant respect with my obese bike.

    I really don't have too much issue with talking to people about the bike. Anything that helps with communication between trail users is a positive thing.
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    Every race, every ride, every beach cruise.... its always the same, i get comments and have to explain the tyres..... BUT...

    Im riding across a road and a guy leans out of a truck and shouts at the top of his voice, THATS FU%KIN SICK MATE, CANT BELIEVE IT, FU%KIN SICK !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raul34 View Post
    Funny...that is usually the most common question I get when riding through the rough neighborhoods here in the city. I usually say a couple hundred, you just have to pre-order it. (Not that they'll take the time to prove me a liar) But I also get some friendly waves and thumbs up from the crowd as well. There are a couple old fellas that are usually outside on my trip downtown that typically have a High Life in hand that always get a kick out of me braaapin' on down the asphalt.

    The main question I get is "What are those tires for?"

    I've come to just answer, simply, "Anything and everywhere.".
    Yeah, but you really don't have much to worry about where you are, Auggie. Your worst neighborhoods in D-port are like my neighbors in Philly. I get to ride through stuff like this to get to the trails:

    but I also have views like this, too:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    Yeah, but you really don't have much to worry about where you are, Auggie. Your worst neighborhoods in D-port are like my neighbors in Philly. I get to ride through stuff like this to get to the trails:

    but I also have views like this, too:
    Nice variety of scenery, Gigantic.
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    I don't mind at all. If we want better products, more R&D and more varity in our Fatbikes then the word needs to get out. Your riding what the mainstream cyclist sees as odd or different. If it were not for the a few folks here in my area that were nice enough to answer my questions about the bike then I'm pretty sure I wound't have one today.
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    My commutes are always more fun when I'm on the fat bike. I don't mind the questions, and have even recommended the WalGoose to a couple of people who scoffed at the price.

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