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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantTrek View Post
    No, he removes the stickers so you wont cry when he rides past you on the trail and you realize he only paid $225, while your pedaling $8k of depreciating expectations.

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    Pugsley decal set is only $15, so you can have a Dologley or Pugsmite for $240.

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    BTW, there is a video on YouTube of a guy removing stickers from the Dolo and it is very easy. Once removed they are done for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Stickers can be removed.
    But once you get the bike in front of you, stop and look first. They're nicely done and make a great contrast to the paint. Once off, you can't put them back on.
    (I always remove the stickers from bikes, even before I grease the bearings and adjust the brakes. These I've left on. This probably won't last, but I can't bring myself to do it.)Seat post measures 10.5" below the seat clamp.
    Post is labelled 028. The diameter of the painted seat post measures between 28.35mm and 28.50mm, typically 28.45mm (to nearest .05).


    It looks like the post diameter is 28.6mm, the same as on the Beast. I have some 27.2mm seatposts that I will shim. Amazingly enough I found the exact shim size I need in my parts bin. No beer can will be harmed for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunalic View Post
    wow
    At $299.97 the Dolo is out of stock online already.

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    And the Beast gone again too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    And the Beast gone again too...
    you can get the Dozer from eBay, rakuten or toys r us for 187.49.
    Toys r us has a $10 coupon too. Very good deal.

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    Hopefully they don't up the price of the dolo anymore. I really don't think they can.

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    Sold out in three days at original price. Raised price $75 and sold out again in a day. Boys, I think they struck a gusher.

    Looks like a lot of people were eager to get into fat biking at an affordable price point.
    I like bikes, and turtles. Well... mostly turtles. But bikes are cool also.

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    My Mongoose Dolomite 26" - w/ fenders, 21-speed & front derailleur..

    The frame IS ALL STEEL - despite "aluminum/steel" in the description on the Walmart site.

    Below I've attached some photos of what I've done so far w/my 26" Mongoose Dolomite... These include:
    -added a 3-chain-ring crank. (now 21-speed. Cheap steel Next brand with 28-38-48 tooth rings.)
    - Added a front derailleur. (Fabricated from old stock 3-ring derailleurs - be sure not to use any with shorter "bails"(?) made for 2-ring cranks...)
    - Made & installed some fenders.
    - Added a bottle cage.
    - Added a clamp to hold a hand pump on the seat tube. (This needs to be a bigger, high-volume hand pump!)

    With this setup I have some chain rub on rear tire. Fender stays are made from 12-gauge galvanized wire (9-gauge wire would be stiffer).The fenders are fabricated from plastic landscape edging (6 inches originally w/the top & bottom removed for a 4 inch wide piece of flat stock...). Threading & routing the stays was a bit of a chore / conundrum - I only had to drill two small holes at each side on the rear of frame to fasten the wire stays w/small screws & nuts.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-01-leftsd-dolomite-fenders-12mar14-.jpg  

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-02-pump-bottlecage-12mar14-.jpg  

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-03-rtrear-fenders_etc-12mar14-.jpg  

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-04-frntdrllrdtl-12mar14-.jpg  

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-05-chainrub-12mar14-.jpg  

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-10-rearbrksdstaysdtl-12mar14-.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    OK, a couple of points & then some pics...
    1) This was only $225 - not $299. (Because of no sales tax in Montana?)
    2) The frame IS ALL STEEL - despite "aluminum/steel" in the description.

    Below I've attached some photos of what I've done so far w/my 26" Mongoose Dolomite... These include:
    -added a 3-chain-ring crank.
    - Added a front derailleur.
    - Made & installed some fenders.
    - Added a bottle cage.
    - Added a clamp to hold a hand pump on the seat tube.
    Hey fellow Missoulian I think you can get some better cranks (from freecycles) that might stick out more and eliminate the chain rub issue. PM me if you need a hand.
    $299 is the (new) price on that contraption BTW, will probably go on "sale" for $249.95 when the next container arrives from China.

    I still have no idea how they can manufacture/ship a bike so large and heavy to your door so cheap... boggles my mind!
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    Because fed ex or ups is giving them a great rate due to volume. Planes, trucks and trains have to move regardless if their full or not. Pretty sure the carrier would rather have them full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseli View Post
    Pugsley decal set is only $15, so you can have a Dologley or Pugsmite for $240.
    Don't remove the decals... you should be proud of what you have. Putting other bike decals on just screams "this is what I really wanted but I suck at saving money". Taking them off says "I'm embarrassed". And everyone will know what you really have under your legs. Be proud of what you have.
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    You sure seem to really like
    We get who you are. You don't have to keep showing us, over and over. And over. And over.

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    I can't believe how fast these things are flying off the shelves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    You sure seem to really like
    We get who you are. You don't have to keep showing us, over and over. And over. And over.
    Is there a double-standard? Other people get to say stupid comments but I can't? It's a valid point. Be proud of what you have and leave the decals on. Otherwise you just look ashamed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Is there a double-standard? Other people get to say stupid comments but I can't? It's a valid point. Be proud of what you have and leave the decals on. Otherwise you just look ashamed.
    just report this user thats what i do then use ignore

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Is there a double-standard? Other people get to say stupid comments but I can't? It's a valid point. Be proud of what you have and leave the decals on. Otherwise you just look ashamed.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to duggus again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    OK, a couple of points & then some pics...
    1) This was only $225 - not $299. (Because of no sales tax in Montana?)
    2) The frame IS ALL STEEL - despite "aluminum/steel" in the description.

    Below I've attached some photos of what I've done so far w/my 26" Mongoose Dolomite... These include:
    -added a 3-chain-ring crank.
    - Added a front derailleur.
    - Made & installed some fenders.
    - Added a bottle cage.
    - Added a clamp to hold a hand pump on the seat tube.
    Those are simultaneously the most craptacular AND awesome fenders I have ever seen in my life- Absolutely brilliant idea. My grandfather, who believed that there was nothing in life that couldn't be fixed with bailing wire, would salute you. Ride the hell out of that thing!

    And that front derailleur is amazing.

    I stand in awe at your bodging stuff together skills. Seriously, amazing work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Don't remove the decals... you should be proud of what you have. Putting other bike decals on just screams "this is what I really wanted but I suck at saving money". Taking them off says "I'm embarrassed". And everyone will know what you really have under your legs. Be proud of what you have.
    I doubt somebody in the market for this bike will spend $15 on stickers to make it something that it is not.

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    Does anybody know the front hub spacing?
    The rear I think is 190mm?

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    If I got a Pugsley I would put Mongoose stickers on it so no one would steal it!
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    I would definitely spend 15$ on stickers, I plan too when I get mine. Most likely going to get custom stickers made. I'm prolly going to drop around 200 into the bike, as well as drilling out the wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Is there a double-standard? Other people get to say stupid comments but I can't?
    Nope.
    If you're willing to repeatedly remind people what you are, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puchcobra View Post
    just report this user thats what i do then use ignore
    Yet you are still obsessing over my posts?? But we do have one thing in common... I reported you too for that VERY CREEPY post where you found a video I had online of my son. You by far take the cake on most creepy person I have ran across on MTBR. So congrats stalking creep.

    Anyway... Enjoy your Dolomites. And to the level headed people who say they are just getting one to try and don't have a problem upgrading some day... thumbs up! There needs to be more of you and less of the haters who can't stand a different opinion than theirs. Bikes! It's serious business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseli View Post
    Does anybody know the front hub spacing?
    The rear I think is 190mm?
    Can't get a precise measurement without pulling the wheel, but a rough measurement indicates a 135mm front and a 190mm rear.

    I don't know if the front tabs are for a 135 rear or a 135 front.

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    Yup. 135 front, 190 rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    ...And to the level headed people who say they are just getting one to try and don't have a problem upgrading some day...
    You expect people to make decisions on only a duggas-approved basis?

    While it would be a delight to have such a super uber high quality bike as you and your family presumably have, it is not required for what I and apparently a number of others need or want a fat bike for. Sorry that you're upset that we don't have the same requirement as you, or the funds to indulge in more bike than we need, but you'd likely stay further away from a stroke or heart attack if you chilled a little. Look after yourself so you can continue to enjoy life.

    The Beast is gone.....what to buy for a replacement????

    As past behavior is the greatest predictor of future behavior, I'm likely wasting my efforts in your direction, but at least you're "approving" the try-fat reason now, so perhaps there's hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    But not for what's in your avatar, right?
    Heh, no. this will stay a lot closer to the ground.
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    Hell of a jump, dawg. Even though they're baggy shorts, I'm surprised that you can fit your balls into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg21892 View Post
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    thank you so much for the pictures and info, it has swayed me. i will totally pick one of these up if i get the chance.
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    But not for what's in your avatar, right?

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    Heh, no. this will stay a lot closer to the ground.
    Thank you!
    You didn't get back before now and you had me a little worried.

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    Well aren't you a peach

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    Re: The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    This thread is sponsored by Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator.

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    What about the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puchcobra View Post
    you have zero comprehension zip nada i asked if that was a walmart toy bike that you bought for your baby mama. youtube is not creepin its public. you should know what you put out there, if not dont play poker if you cant read the room
    Houston, we have a problem...

    over. the. line.

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    Good job!

    Awesome thread. I totally want one of these as soon as they come back in stock. I own a house in Maine we use for for snowboarding and some mountain biking in the summer. I keep a crappy hybrid bike in my shed up there to use to ride around town. This would be much more fun. I could even use it in the winter on the xc trails near my house. I've had my eye on fat bikes for 2 years now, but I just won't use one to justify spending a minimum of $1k. But for less than 300 bucks this would be ideal. I could get rid of the crappy hybrid and use this instead. When the winter comes I could ride this a few times a year when I have a down day at the mountain. Maybe in the summer I could ride on some of the snowmobile/atv trails to mix it up. This would not be primary bike, so for such little money it would be a blast to have. Also, in Maine nobody cares what kind of bike you own. No bike snobs around! Thanks for all the info/links/pics!

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    I Agree, Mr. Doom!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Doom View Post
    Hey fellow Missoulian I think you can get some better cranks (from freecycles) that might stick out more and eliminate the chain rub issue. PM me if you need a hand.
    $299 is the (new) price on that contraption BTW, will probably go on "sale" for $249.95 when the next container arrives from China.

    I still have no idea how they can manufacture/ship a bike so large and heavy to your door so cheap... boggles my mind!
    I couldn't believe the "free shipping" either - thought I'd need to do a "ship to store" instead... I thought about either shimming the rear axle a bit on the leftside but figured it would "unbalance" the disk brake setup. In the end it just isn't that big a deal - 1 area (about 3" long) of the rear tire right side is slightly bulged - the rest of the "rub" is just the little rubber knobs from the molding process - I actually usually stay 3rd-sprocket to small or middle chain-ring - pretty much like I ride my old Schwinn High-Plains "road" bike... I KNOW the gear-inches have to be higher due to larger outside diameter of those big tires - but it just hasn't been too noticeable yet. (The gyroscope effect of all that rotating mass sure is noticeable though! Gil at Missoula Free-Cycle thought I'd an over-tight headset! I let Gil test it out yesterday afternoon while I helped a neighbor set up a small bike for his son.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    I couldn't believe the "free shipping" either - thought I'd need to do a "ship to store" instead... I thought about either shimming the rear axle a bit on the leftside but figured it would "unbalance" the disk brake setup. In the end it just isn't that big a deal - 1 area (about 3" long) of the rear tire right side is slightly bulged - the rest of the "rub" is just the little rubber knobs from the molding process - I actually usually stay 3rd-sprocket to small or middle chain-ring - pretty much like I ride my old Schwinn High-Plains "road" bike... I KNOW the gear-inches have to be higher due to larger outside diameter of those big tires - but it just hasn't been too noticeable yet. (The gyroscope effect of all that rotating mass sure is noticeable though! Gil at Missoula Free-Cycle thought I'd an over-tight headset! I let Gil test it out yesterday afternoon while I helped a neighbor set up a small bike for his son.)
    I can see Gil rocking it on one of those at bike polo...
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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    Facebook has group called Mongoose Fatbikes that discusses the Beast & Dolomite as well. https://www.facebook.com/groups/613073762054967/

    some good upgrade info & mods people have done. just wish it was in stock online to buy. and at $225 price


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    Price is up to 350$....still sold out. I wonder how much they're going to raise it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    While it would be a delight to have such a super uber high quality bike as you and your family presumably have, it is not required for what I and apparently a number of others need or want a fat bike for.
    Let's be clear... I worked and saved up for every bike that I have and my girlfriend did the same. I've built my 29er and Moonlander up from frame... over the course of a year, and added new things as money would allow. I work full time AND run my own design biz on the side to make money to support the things I like. I could get into a society rant here about how no one wants to work or save for anything anymore... but I won't.

    SO SORRY that I told you your stem was on wrong and backwards... that was so terrible of me, right? I take it back... that is the correct way to set up a bike and is awesome. I'm sure the stem on backwards geometry won't hurt your back or cause any further damage. Ride on cowboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    I've built my 29er and Moonlander up from frame... over the course of a year, and added new things as money would allow.
    What part of "Not everyone's requirements match your own" don't you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw2jr View Post
    What part of "Not everyone's requirements match your own" don't you understand?
    I was clarifying how I obtained my quote "super uber high quality bikes" (A steel Moonlander? Jesus, it's not like I'm on a carbon fatty) and pointing out how hard work can get you the "better" things in life. I started mountain biking on a Schwinn. It was a pile and I new that, but I didn't go into forums claiming it was the holy grail of bikes and everyone else who spent more was idiots. I new it was crap. I saved up and got a little better bike. Rode that, sold it, saved up more and got even better... etc etc.

    And I've said many times I don't give an absolute crap what you guys ride... but I have every right to defend myself against ridiculous comments.
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    OK .. my last post on this. I have back issues that required surgery several years ago, bad knees too. Has anyone given thought to if you have physical health issues that limit capabilities like me that an overly HEAVY bike might cause you further injury? I know I would have problems trying to safely manage a bike that heavy over obstacles, bumps in the road .. could be an accident waiting. Something to think about. Just be happy and SAFE with your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    ...And I've said many times I don't give an absolute crap what you guys ride...
    And yet you keep posting the same or similar over and over.
    In threads you say aren't worth your time, yet you keep spending time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    ...SO SORRY that I told you your stem was on wrong and backwards... that was so terrible of me, right? I take it back... that is the correct way to set up a bike and is awesome. I'm sure the stem on backwards geometry won't hurt your back or cause any further damage. Ride on cowboy.
    This again?

    You made a knee-jerk post, shooting from the hip with a cutting post, without bothering to read my whole post (the very first of this thread), where clearly under the photo was my apologizing for having the stem on backwards, and explaining why I did so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    (sorry the stem is 180 out, I have back problems)
    You made a duffus out of yourself with a cutting comment. Too late, too bad, so sad. It's over. Move on. You're free! Fly! Go live! It Doesn't matter.
    No skin off my back, but do you really want to (need to?) keep reminding people of what you did? Is this healthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    If my lbs started selling this kind of garbage, I'd find another lbs. At best, these bikes are poorly made to the point of being dangerous. I appreciate that they might serve as an entry point into fat biking, but they're so shabbily rendered, that in many, if not most cases, these bikes will be ridden a few times, then dismissed and abandoned as a pointless fad. As such they are more a disservice to our sport than a boon.
    Oh please. A $1,000 fat bike just isn't worth even trying to a lot of people, whether they can afford it or not. This opens the door and lets people try it out. Given the way fat bikes are typically ridden you actually think this thing is "dangerous and likely to kill someone?" Hell, if the head tube snapped off the frame at 10mph on a slightly bumpy sandy trail, your feet will hit the ground, stumble, and you will hop over the broken fork and be fine, similar to catching a foot on a vine trail jogging. The thing isn't a DH bike.

    The real shame is they kept jacking the price up. At $350 I would say the potential buyers are now 10-20% of what they were at $230, which means it will likely only be produced for a year before its discontinued due to "lack of sales". I kind of wish I had snapped one up instead of building up my single speed.

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    I agree w/the part about low-speed accidents. Personally I'm not going to do any radical riding- I just wanted to determine if one of these types. Of bikes can actually replace the role & mobiliy of a horse (freshly plowed fields, truly "off road" (or trail), etc.
    ? Bombing down-hill @ high speeds, popping wheelies, jumping - none of these for me.I first test-rode a Salsa Mukluk back in 2011- was intirgued by the concept but knew I couldn't justify the price of a used car for something I didn't really need or even knew if I would like... I think $350 isn't beyond most folk's means - but I AM glad I got one for $225!

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    Back in stock...
    $349.97

    Wonder how many they have up for sale.

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    $350 isn't beyond most folks means, but I do believe it is about the point where it is above the value/risk. The $200 range is still "disposable income" to most, where if it turns out to be crap or they just don't like it it's not a huge loss. Exceed that number by much and it quickly turns into a case of "just spend the extra little bit" and get a real/trusted fatbike from bikes direct/nashbar, instead of a "toy", which will hold its resale value better if nothing else.

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    If you guys are interested in lightening these up a bunch in the tire area... I just noticed this on Bikes Direct facebook page... $70 for a PAIR. The Vee8's are something around 1350 grams a piece... and the Missions are more.

    Info from them:

    FATBIKE TIRE SPECIAL

    For loyal followers/newsletter members only:

    VeeRubber 120TPI folding tires
    Either VEE 8 or MISSION models

    only $69.95 a pair delivered 48 states {$79.95 in AK & HI}

    To order, simply send an email titled "Fat Bike Tire Special" to bd4holiday@gmail.com
    We'll reply with a Paypal money request at this ridiculous price!

    THIS IS FOR A PAIR! Not just a single tire; we know the price is insane, but hey it IS a promo deal!!
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    wow
    ~$70 a pair!
    Just took a look, and I'm seeing reports on the Mission at 1370g to 1420g.
    And a Vee8 at 1870g, but that was an early one.

    The tire on my Beast is 2829g and my Dolo tires look identical (haven't pulled one to weigh it yet).

    120 tpi will certainly roll better and be lighter than those pigs on the Dolo and Beast.

    The On-One Floater at 120tpi lists as 1670g.
    The other kind of "Clownshoe" now available.

    I know On-One Floater deal costs more than that VeeRubber deal, and weird colours, but any idea about performance differences?

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    Dolo crank arm: 170mm, 219g
    They look a step up from Beast arms.

    Stock pedal: 197g

    That's 832g in arms & pedals. 1.83 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    And a Vee8 at 1870g, but that was an early one.
    Yeah that was the earlier versions at 60 tpi.

    The new 120 tpi ones are around 1350 - 1400 grams. I ordered a set for some dirt use.
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    Handle bars and stem on backwards. Brilliant.
    bad back genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02_NRS View Post
    bad back genius.
    Over and done with already genius.
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    Drive side:
    pedal, crank arm, spider & chain ring (36T) with plastic chainring guard each side, for 648g.

    Non-drive side:
    crank arm & pedal, 219g + 197g for 416g.

    Total: 1064g, or 2.35 lbs.

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    Tire Weight Savings

    Dolo stock: two tires (2829g x 2) & two tubes (705g x 2) = 7068g, or 15.58 lbs.

    Let's assume worst case of 1400g for the VeeRubber Vee8 or Mission, and Q-tubes downhill 26x2.75 at 390g. Two tires (1400g x 2) & two tubes (390g x 2) = 3580g, or 7.89 lbs.

    weight reduction of 3580g, or 7.60 lbs.

    So, that reduced weight would take a stock Dolo from 49 lbs. to 41.3 lbs., and you get a lower roll resistance (a supple 120 tpi tire & a more supple tube), ~$70 plus tubes.

    good find duggus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    If you guys are interested in lightening these up a bunch in the tire area... I just noticed this on Bikes Direct facebook page... $70 for a PAIR. The Vee8's are something around 1350 grams a piece... and the Missions are more.

    Info from them:
    Hey duggus, what facebook page are you looking at for Bikes Direct? I am not seeing anything on any Bikes Direct facebook page. I like the deal, but would want to pull the trigger if it is not legit.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jekyll2003 View Post
    Hey duggus, what facebook page are you looking at for Bikes Direct? ...
    Some hours after duggus's post I saw the info posted at another site too.
    I just checked right now and it's still up on facebook.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bikesdirect/122199864367

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    The $349.97 Walmart Mongoose Dolomite is turning up on a certain online auction site as a "Fat Tire Bicycle" and a "Fat Tire Mountain Bike". Asking over $500.

    No mention of Walmart nor of Mongoose. Brand given as "Pacific Cycles". Photos are retouched to remove the bike name "Dolomite" and most photos have "Mongoose" retouched out. Quotes about fat bikes are used in the ads, and include some photos that are not the Dolomite.

    One of the sellers is also listing the $200 Walmart Mongoose Massif as a "Fat Tire Mountain Boys Bicycle" for near $400.

    And there's a $200 Walmart Mongoose Beast painted camo up as a "Fat Tire Bicycle Cruiser" for near $600, appears to be stock except for the paint and the seat.

    sigh...
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    I would wait until the Gravity fatbikes from Bikesdirect hit the shore.

    Pre-Order is getting a slow start but their Facebook page claimed these prices a while ago.
    Bullseye Monster $499
    Deadeye Monster $449
    Deadeye $399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Some hours after duggus's post I saw the info posted at another site too.
    I just checked right now and it's still up on facebook.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bikesdirect/122199864367
    Thanks. I found it too. Bikes Direct has 2 FB pages, one has not been updated since 2011. The page is Bikesdirect no spaces.

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    At sub $300 I would buy the Dolo just to cruise around with the grandkids and run the dog. At $349 I think it's a stretch. I don't want a full price high zoot fatbike. So what's driving up the price? Greed or supply and demand? I think I already answered my own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    ...So what's driving up the price? Greed or supply and demand?...
    Or they needed to slow sales down so the staff at the shipping depot could go home to get a shower and some sleep.
    (kidding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    If you guys are interested in lightening these up a bunch in the tire area... I just noticed this on Bikes Direct facebook page... $70 for a PAIR. The Vee8's are something around 1350 grams a piece... and the Missions are more.

    Info from them:
    Thanks for the tip!

    Ordering up..
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    the bikes direct bikes can't run the 5 inch tire. and have a very funky asymetrical frame.

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    Can a dolomite run a 5" tire?

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    A few more things AND my tires are about 4.7" across - looks like room for 5"(?)

    Here's the latest little additions-tweaks...

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-a01-rtsd-nwfrntdrllr-16mar14-.jpg

    I had to change the original front derailleur mount setup to get the derailleur more centered on the seat tube. Involved using another clamp (with a through-bolt setup) versus the previous clamp (beefier clamp but with a smaller and shorter bolt/screw at the clamp.)

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-a02-frntvw-nwfrntdrllr-16mar14-.jpg

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-a04-dtlshot-nwfrntdrllr-16mar14-.jpg

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-rrrackadded.jpg

    Here is a cheap aluminum rear rack that I've owned for years (says Schwinn on it but I think it was after the original company sold-out to Pacific(?) or some other large international conglomerate.) I had to "thin the herd" for the wife so I re-donated the cheapo (bike theft is pretty prevalent here in Missoula... it really doesn't "pay" to have a nice bike.. :\ ) "campus bike" I'd built up last year for getting to college in Missoula. I just kept the rack from off that bike. I just bent the down-stays to clear the tire width and used an old weed-eater clamp and a clamp from an old broken MTB thumb-shifter as my seat stay clamps. The seat stay diameters are the same as most "standard" handle bars - convenient! I ended up hanging the front of the rack from the seat clamp through-bolt as the drop to the seat tube clamp was too steep and put the rack way out of level.

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    I'm not sure about the Gear-inches chart - I used the one Sheldon Brown had created. This was with the stock 14-28 rear freewheel sprocket set. I might try to put on one of the "Megarange" Shimano units (14-34...) I can get one free at Free-Cycle Missoula... ( Free Cycles )
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
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    I'm not sure about the Gear-inches chart - I used the one Sheldon Brown had created. I might try to put on one of the "Megarange" Shimano units (14-34...) I can get one free.
    I have the Shimano "megarange" 14 to 34 in back with a 23 granny gear up front, and it works good in the snow. The 34 is used more often than I would have thought. Anything solid, and I quickly run out of gears and switch to the 32 up front.

    Love the mega though -
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    Dolomite Self Steer

    My stock Beast had huge self steer on all surfaces and a healthy gyroscope effect when turning; distracting by times. That was greatly improved to rarely self steer and minimal gyro, with a 47mm trials rim in front with an Endo or Larry. Stock rim in front with a Larry was in between, and quite ride-able.

    Dolomite, stock:
    • little if any self steer on pavement
    • minimal self steer on packed snow
    • self steer in fresh snow, but very smooth and stable
    • minimal feeling of gyroscope effect when turning.

    wtf?

    Can the geometry make that much difference?

    (no dirt to test it on - all snow)

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    Wow... BikeMan has outdone Bikes Direct on price! Not that the Missions are that great of tires and you can find them used all over... but not terrible, and can't get much better of a deal than this.

    DEAL OF THE DAY
    $24.99 Fat Bike Tires!!!
    48% off the Vee Rubber Mission 26x4.0
    Bikeman Vee Mission 26x4.0 Black Folding
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    That's a great price. Looks like bike man has 60tpi and bikes direct were 120tpi. But still a great deal!

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    60TPI... but yes... crazy deal. Wow... really shows you what markup has to be if they are still making a slight profit on these. I'm guessing VeeTire is practically giving them away though with all their new tires coming out. I'm going to speculate that the Mission and Vee8 are possibly going to be discontinued and that is why these specials are coming out.
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    im trying to decide weather i should get the gravity bullseye or Dolomite

    i was hoping any Dolomite owner can answer my questions,

    is the Dolomite frame and fork alluminum or steel ?
    whats the rear dropout spacing. and front spacing?
    how many spokes do the rims have?
    whats the BB legnth?
    is the fork threadless 1 1/8?
    what size is the seat post?

    im think about buying either one and just keep the frame fork and rims upgrade everything else completely. thanks
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    Steel Frame and Fork
    190 rear 135 front
    36
    about 175mm
    1 1/8 threadless
    28.6

    Personally I think the Gravity is a better buy. And I really like the Mongeese...

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    thanks very much for the input, do you know how much it weights? since its all steel and heavy, i dont think the Dolomite is nimble.

    the Bottom bracket shell width is 175mm? wow thats wide. do manufacturers make spindles that long ?

    my goal is to build a fatbike around 35lbs on a budget
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    im trying to decide weather i should get the gravity bullseye or Dolomite

    i was hoping any Dolomite owner can answer my questions,

    is the Dolomite frame and fork alluminum or steel ?
    whats the rear dropout spacing. and front spacing?
    how many spokes do the rims have?
    whats the BB legnth?
    is the fork threadless 1 1/8?
    what size is the seat post?

    im think about buying either one and just keep the frame fork and rims upgrade everything else completely. thanks
    it's about 50#

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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    my goal is to build a fatbike around 35lbs on a budget
    Dropping 15lbs from a Dolomite is doable, depends on your budget.

    Im doing something similar with a Beast right now. But ill have more into it than a gravity when I'm done. For me the build is half the fun though...

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    My budget is about $1200 total for the complete build. dont get me wrong, i can probably get an used surly or salsa for that much but i will still end up updating everything too. since i dont really care about brand name, i figure why not just start with a cheaper bike/frame.

    is the rear hub a freewheel or cassette?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    ...my goal is to build a fatbike around 35lbs on a budget
    There's lighter parts for not too much money, but if you want the lightest...
    Between quality light 120 tpi tires, tubes, stem, bars & crankset, you should be able to be awfully near 35 lbs.. But you're likely to spend more than the bike costs to get there. (example, a pair of 120 tpi Nates is 2 x $150). And you'll still have a frame without gussets with not the greatest welds and bottom end brakes. If you start replacing hubs, spokes & gears too, all in, parts and a Dolo could end up at three times the cost of the Dolo. Better ways to spend that money.

    What do intend to use the bike for?
    As in, light is nice, but how much bike do you need? There's many end goals where a Dolo is not the place to start from.

    Edit: $1200 budget. I would never start with a Dolo.
    And depending on your intended usage, compared to a "real" fat bike, it would be downright dangerous.
    I suggest you check the other threads, or start your own "Have $1,200, and want a fat bike for ______, what should I be looking at?"

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    My post from another thread (the wrong one)

    So I got my Dolomite yesterday. The box was in good shape and other than a few, barely noticeable scratches, it's in great shape.
    My initial impression (as it was for The Beast) was that the tires stank to high hell. It went together fairly quickly. Didn't have to adjust the rear derailleur at all, but the brakes needed some attention. The brakes also didn't work initially, but after putting a couple miles on them, I can tell they're starting to break in, so I'm sure they'll be fine.
    The tires and tubes are heavy junk and I replaced them with some Missions and lighter tubes I had laying around. I also swapped the bars/stem with a much lighter set I had, so it's now at a svelte 42lbs.
    The gearing is a bit tall, but should be fine for just cruising around Folsom Lake and what not. I bought it so my girlfriend would have something to tool around on.
    The only other thing I may do is drill out the rims.
    Bottom line, for $224, it's a steal. At $349 (where it's priced now) not so much.
    This bike is cool, but if this was the only fatbike I was going to own, I would definitely get something nicer. The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-dolomite.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    There's lighter parts for not too much money, but if you want the lightest...
    Between quality light 120 tpi tires, tubes, stem, bars & crankset, you should be able to be awfully near 35 lbs.. But you're likely to spend more than the bike costs to get there. (example, a pair of 120 tpi Nates is 2 x $150). And you'll still have a frame without gussets with not the greatest welds and bottom end brakes. If you start replacing hubs, spokes & gears too, all in, parts and a Dolo could end up at three times the cost of the Dolo. Better ways to spend that money.

    What do intend to use the bike for?
    As in, light is nice, but how much bike do you need? There's many end goals where a Dolo is not the place to start from.

    Edit: $1200 budget. I would never start with a Dolo.
    And depending on your intended usage, compared to a "real" fat bike, it would be downright dangerous.
    I suggest you check the other threads, or start your own "Have $1,200, and want a fat bike for ______, what should I be looking at?"


    yeah, i sort of realized that Dolo is not the best platform to modified. this would be my only fat bike, garage can only fit so many bikes, ill have to sell my DJ to make room and free up some money to build it.

    what i have in mind is a cool cruiser turns some heads in town, and some XC riding. no serious trail riding. ill leave that to my suspension bikes.
    here is what i want basically. good reliable frame that i like. hope hubs 170/135. good drilled rims. 2 sets of tires one knobby set for trail. one slick set for street. hope tech m4 brakes. some good crankset. 1x9 saint or 1x10 zee. obviously for the budget these are some fancy parts , so ill have to hunt for deals on used parts.

    i think ill wait around till i sell my DJ to see what options are. ill probably get one from bikedirect anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    ... what i have in mind is a cool cruiser turns some heads in town, and some XC riding. no serious trail riding. ill leave that to my suspension bikes...
    Warning!!!
    Once you try fat, with the fat tire suspension, you may find you end up going for a "real" fat bike with quality tires, brakes, etc. and a suspension fork. Your suspension bikes may gather more garage dust than you anticipate.

    Before you spend any money, make sure you test ride a "real" fat bike or two, or three. Different frames, rims, tires, etc., can feel rather different. There's a lot of threads for you to read.

    p.s. the right knobby and it does fine for street too, you've got fat air in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    my goal is to build a fatbike around 35lbs on a budget
    Have you looked at the Framed Minnesota fat bikes? I believe they are about 35 lbs stock and under a grand.

    On Sale Fat Bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Warning!!!
    Once you try fat, with the fat tire suspension, you may find you end up going for a "real" fat bike with quality tires, brakes, etc. and a suspension fork. Your suspension bikes may gather more garage dust than you anticipate.

    Before you spend any money, make sure you test ride a "real" fat bike or two, or three. Different frames, rims, tires, etc., can feel rather different. There's a lot of threads for you to read.

    p.s. the right knobby and it does fine for street too, you've got fat air in there

    yes, yes, this is exactly what i was thinking. thats why i want to build it with all the goodies listed in my early comment. fat bike tires can go over terrains and its not heavy. i dont see why it wouldnt be a good trail bike if built right. its a very good idea to demo some fat bike like you said to see how i like them.



    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Have you looked at the Framed Minnesota fat bikes? I believe they are about 35 lbs stock and under a grand.

    On Sale Fat Bikes


    i saw those during research last night. honestly, i think they dont have better value to me then the bike direct ones , considering ill upgrade everything. and i dont like how the downtube its curved slightly at the headtube.
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    akacoke, i'll be doing the same thing in the near future. hoping its worth it.

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    Shimano Megarange Freewheel (13-34) hub on my Mongoose Dolomite..

    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    My budget is about $1200 total for the complete build. dont get me wrong, i can probably get an used surly or salsa for that much but i will still end up updating everything too. since i dont really care about brand name, i figure why not just start with a cheaper bike/frame.

    is the rear hub a freewheel or cassette?
    FREEWHEEL hub...
    I just put a Shimano Megarange (13-34 tooth iteration - that's NOT a typo - this has 13 vs. 14 teeth on the small sprocket!?!) to replace the stock 14-28 tooth Freewheel hub on mine two nights ago.

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-mgarngfrhb-19mar14-.jpg



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    I picked up a BikesDirect Fantom Pro a while back ($995). Outside of putting on some new tires, (cheap ones, at that), grips and replacing the big ring with a bashguard and swapping the bars out, it's stock and comes in at 35.5lbs.
    It's a great bike for the money and doesn't really need a lot of upgrading.
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    cool, looks like Dolos are back in stock again at $350 plus tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hannoonen View Post
    I picked up a BikesDirect Fantom Pro a while back ($995). Outside of putting on some new tires, (cheap ones, at that), grips and replacing the big ring with a bashguard and swapping the bars out, it's stock and comes in at 35.5lbs.
    It's a great bike for the money and doesn't really need a lot of upgrading.
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    hey man, thanks for sharing, thats a nice looking bike, i like the fantom frame much better . i think ill go with that eventually. what size is your frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akacoke View Post
    hey man, thanks for sharing, thats a nice looking bike, i like the fantom frame much better . i think ill go with that eventually. what size is your frame?
    It's a 17". I actually ordered a 19", but they got shorted, so I got a $50 discount for getting the smaller size. FYI, I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and I love the way it fits. I'm glad I ended up with the 17" rather than the 19".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hannoonen View Post
    It's a 17". I actually ordered a 19", but they got shorted, so I got a $50 discount for getting the smaller size. FYI, I'm 6'1" with a 32" inseam and I love the way it fits. I'm glad I ended up with the 17" rather than the 19".
    few questions : do the headset, hubs and bottom bracket have sealed bearings? is the rear hub loud? ( compare to hope pro 2) whats the front and rear hub spacing?

    do you mind posting more pictures if you have them? thanks
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    Finished w/Mods for a bit(?)... (Tire PSI issues...)

    Done w/mods & "upgrades"(?) for now. Going on a longer ride today...

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-status-21mar14.jpg

    Turns out the 25 PSI was OK for my rear tire as long as it stayed below 32 degrees F! At 40+ degrees and with sunshine the rear tire blew off the right side (in a later post as well...) With this much volume expansion is a definate factor with the fat tires! :P (I'd made two other 7.4 mile round trips previously at 25 PSI with no issues - great road rolling / low resistance - but it was colder then...)

    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite-megarange-dtl-21mar14.jpg

    Picture of a gear chart from Sheldon Brown's site (In gearinches). The Magarange low gear has me at about 24 gear-inches with a small chain-ring of 28 teeth. That's close to what you need for loaded touring climbs, etc.
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    Well I was one of the people that purchased the Dolomite at $349 last Sunday. I just saw that they dropped the price online to $299, but was still out of stock. I called walmart.com and since it was less than 7 days they honored the lower price and credited me. You can say all you want about Walmart, but I was pleased with the zero hassle for the refund on the price change.

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    The Dolo in the (semi) wild - Mongoose Dolomite

    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Wow... BikeMan has outdone Bikes Direct on price! Not that the Missions are that great of tires and you can find them used all over... but not terrible, and can't get much better of a deal than this.

    DEAL OF THE DAY
    $24.99 Fat Bike Tires!!!
    48% off the Vee Rubber Mission 26x4.0
    Bikeman Vee Mission 26x4.0 Black Folding
    I must have missed it. It's like $51 now


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    Update on attempted ride last week:
    1) Rear tire sort of "blew off" to the right. (i mile from house)
    2) Suspected problem; I inflated the rear tire to about 25 PSI (@20 degrees F) a few days previously. Had ridden on a couple 7 -mile round-trip rides already - however, the day the tire blew off the right side (un-beaded) it was sunny and mid forties.
    3) Deflated rear tire, re-seated the right bead then hand-pumped (500+!) back to about 4 PSI. Limped a mile back home...
    4) Reset PSI to 21 PSI Front & Rear at 40+ degrees F. Re-rode about an 8-mile loop w/rough roads, high speed (down-hill on wash-boarded & potholed gravel road), etc. No more problems - THEN got sick, so yet to make the longer trip to town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    Update on attempted ride last week:
    1) Rear tire sort of "blew off" to the right. (i mile from house)
    2) Suspected problem; I inflated the rear tire to about 25 PSI (@20 degrees F) a few days previously. Had ridden on a couple 7 -mile round-trip rides already - however, the day the tire blew off the right side (un-beaded) it was sunny and mid forties.
    3) Deflated rear tire, re-seated the right bead then hand-pumped (500+!) back to about 4 PSI. Limped a mile back home...
    4) Reset PSI to 21 PSI Front & Rear at 40+ degrees F. Re-rode about an 8-mile loop w/rough roads, high speed (down-hill on wash-boarded & potholed gravel road), etc. No more problems - THEN got sick, so yet to make the longer trip to town.
    WAYYYY too much pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw2jr View Post
    WAYYYY too much pressure.
    No kidding.

    Did you see the video of the Dolomite out in the forest? Look where he goes over some rocks and then later some branches. Tires look next to rock hard... ouch. Better him than me.

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    So I took out the girlfriend the beach the other day on the Dolomite (I was on my FB4). She absolutely LOVED it, which was pretty surprising, as she's very much a girly girl.
    I'm really looking forward to spending more quality fat bike time with her.

    Oh, and if anyone is looking to buy an FB4 Pro, I'm selling mine. I may or may not have accidentally bought a Specialized Fatboy today.

    Ooops!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotaidalg View Post
    Done w/mods & "upgrades"(?) for now. Going on a longer ride today...
    Close enough.
    With the Dolo's tires @29.375":
    • your 28T driving 34T is 24.2 G.I. and 1.93 MOD; with 170mm the gain ratio is 1.81,
    • at the other end, 48T driving 13T is 108.5 G.I. and 8.66 MOD; 170mm for 8.10 gain ratio.
    • your range is 348%.

    Once you've figured out a good tire inflation, with your sitting on it on flat level pavement or concrete, have someone measure from the ground to the center of the rear axle, then double that to get a diameter for calculating the actual values.

    Stock Dolo 36T, 37.8 through 75.5 G.I., 3.01 to 6.03 MOD, stock 170mm cranks give 2.82 to 5.64 gain ratio, range 100%

    From a recycle bike place, I picked up a MF-TZ-31 14-34T and a MF-HG40 14-34T; I've no idea what their difference is. Passed on a MF-TZ-__ 13-34T that was a little rough. Got the recommended protector too.With 34T, I was given many warnings about making sure the derailler limit is set right to keep it out of the spokes.

    With 14-34T on a stock Dolo, that'll give me 31.1 through 75.5 gear inches.

    With a 22T/32T front, I can get that to 19.0 G.I. through 67.1 G.I..
    Make it a triple to 42T and it's up to 88.1.

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