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    Nice work kyttyra! Those look really nice, and I like how you've sealed them around the brake reservoir. Impressive!
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    I was going to say pretty cool, but should I say warm
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    Thanks for compliments BTW, the mitts look like this from inside:



    Note the small loop on the left - it goes around the end of handlebar and secures the mitt that it does not move around. I'll replace them with elastic bands when I have the time.
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    all your barmitts look great! well, here's my non-pro sewing un-skilled self has made.... out of rice bags that I had laying around in the house.....











    I do have one that my in-laws got me for my birthday, but I needed an extra one on mild days. this one serves mostly as a wind breaker/ deflector when it is cold out.

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    * REWIND *

    Yoghurt pot mudguard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    * REWIND *

    Yoghurt pot mudguard?
    yes sir! i am a believer of repurposing/ recycling materials. I find satisfaction in making my own things or repurposing materials ( when you are broke, gotta do things that are extremely cheap or free )

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    kinda reminds me of the derilict campaign from zoolander. nice.

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    So after reading this thread among others, inspired by all the DIYs, I've decided to make my own pogies.

    Found RockyWoods and chose a number of fabrics. I'd like to get some feedback from those of you who own a pair (of pogies...), bought or DIY:ed.

    Outer shell: 1000D Coated Cordura
    Insulation: 150 Thinsulate Ultra
    Inner shell: 30D Double Silicone Coated Ripstop Nylon (to get the sleeping bag feeling)
    2'' Nylon webbing (for the "joints", sorry for the wording: English is not my mother tongue and sewing is not my major...)

    Living in Sweden, really cold hands and feet. Basically impossible for me to bike between october and april

    So, what's your opinion? Poor/good material choice? Which sewing thread would you recommend? Any use for seam sealers or seam tape?

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    Nobody? I know it might be quite early to ask now, but I do need the time until winter to make mistakes...

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    I made my pogies from cheap windstopper, cheap felt-ish material and faux fur (see previous page of this thread). They are indeed very varm, but should I make a new, improved pair, I would add a liner as the inner of my pogies feels a little rough to bare hands.

    The "felt" was a good choice, as it's stiff and thus the pogies keep their shape quite well. This is good IMO as I have tried some pogies that sag on the handlebars, and although the weight is not big, they begin to feel uncomfortable for arms/wrists after a while for some reason.

    A real felt inner would probably be a winner - or overkill

    Can't say anything about real technical materials though as I went with a shoelace budget

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    Thanksfor the input kyttyra. I'm indeed a little worried about the stiffness (or lack thereof) of the pogies. I guess cordura should be stiff enough, especially with some kind of "dart" as in the ones made by tscheezy (DIY Pogies).

    And you confirm the need for inner liner. The 30D Ripstop might be a little overkill though, looking at what sleeping bags are made of... This one might be more suitable:
    Downproof Ripstop Nylon - White.

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    My humble opinion is that you will be able to make yourself a more than adequate pair of pogies. Personally, I would use a different shell material...nothing wrong with cordura, but I think a WPB gore-type fabric would be a better choice, perhaps using the cordura to add abrasion patches to areas more susceptible to wear. The coated ripstop is the ticket for a liner as the coating should reduce the amount of sweat that gets into the insulation. I also think you would be going down the right path to use some sort of seam sealer, liquid or tape...not sure what the intent of the webbing is though...if it is just to "hide" the exterior of the seams, I would opt for a reflective grosgrain ribbon instead.

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    Thanks damnitman.

    I've considered the Gore stuff, but in the end decided against it. Main reason is that my Gore-Tex clothes don't seem to hold there waterproofness and need to be re-treated regularly. For that reason, I'm discarding the "breathable" and prioritizing the waterproofness instead.

    As for the webbing, I don't really know if it's the correct piece of material I need, but what I intend to use it to, is to "finish off" the seams as it's done here (the black ribbon on the edges): Berlin Messenger Bag | Berlin Bag | Chrome Industries

    Edit: Just checked grosgrain ribbon and it looks like it's exactly what I'm looking for instead for that webbing stuff!

    The seam sealant might be overkill, I need to look a little bit more into that.

    Planning to use bonded nylon 69 thread and an 18 needle which hopefully will fit on my stepmother's machine...

    Some kind of reflective tape will be sewn on as well, have not taken time to dig in the different kinds yet

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    elmaco,

    If waterproofness is your number one priority, you'll have to seam seal the pogies. Otherwise the seams are not watertight; how could they be with all the needle holes? Also, reconsider using WPB fabric like Gore Tex because the condensation trapped from nonbreathable fabric will make your hands wet anyway. It's the DWR coating that needs to be reapplied, but the layer that provides the waterproofing lasts far longer.

    I haven't made a pair of pogies yet, but my plan is 200 weight fleece inner with a WPB shell.

    Anyway, my thoughts. Best of luck on your project, and please post pictures when you're done!
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    back on an old thread, for those of you that have used stiffener material, where do you place it?
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    Far from a full DIY but...

    Far from a full DIY pogies but i bought cheap Amazon ATV Logic mitts and modified them for my Rocky Mountain Blizzard. I use a On-One Mary bar and they still work great.

    1- I took 1.5 inch webbing and sewed velcro onto it and punch a hole than insert them into my handlebar plug. I insert the plug into my handle bar.
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    2- I sewed 2 strips of velcro into each pogies along the center seem. I make the inside velcro longer then needed to leave me some room for fore and aft adjustment.
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    3- I inserteded the pogies onto my handlebar and adjusted velcro to my taste. They now stay where they need to.

    They work great and if i want something warmer, i can use them as a pattern and use better material.
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    DIY Pogies

    I know this is diy hand muffs, but check out skinz protective gear for more handguard style ones. The sled ones are smaller, nicer, cheaper.


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    Lovely stuff ... I wish I could sow I'd love to have some primaloft pogies. Nothing beats down for warmth/weight ratio and primaloft is very similar (although slightly more heavy) I hear. Also other than down still works when wet and as a plus, doesn't involve animal cruelty.

    The only one on the market I know are the 45NRTH ones. I don't like them because of the criticism to the inside pocket, which gets in the way often ... and because everything from 45NRTH is priced in the hype/hip level of things.

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    Here are mine:


    DIY pogies by Nate, on Flickr


    DIY pogies by Nate, on Flickr

    Shell: 1000D Cordura
    Liner: Momentum 90 DWR nylon scraps leftover from a sleeping bag project
    Fill: Thinsulate 150

    Here's my process/instructions.

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    I used screw in snaps, General® Canvas Screw-Snap Refill (1268) - Grommets & Grommet Tools - Ace Hardware, one the ends of my pogies to keep them in place. The "male" screw in end goes into the plastic end cap of my ODI grips, and the "female" button head rivets onto the pogie. They snap on, stay in place, but pull free easily in an emergency exit or to fold them over and out of the way when the temps heat up. It feels cleaner on the inside than with the setups with a strap, bungee or velcro around the bar end. I've used these on the neoprene Bar Mits as well as the ATV logic pogies.
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    Argh, you evil people and your sowing skills. Did anyone consider using Primaloft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    I used screw in snaps, General® Canvas Screw-Snap Refill (1268) - Grommets & Grommet Tools - Ace Hardware, one the ends of my pogies to keep them in place. The "male" screw in end goes into the plastic end cap of my ODI grips, and the "female" button head rivets onto the pogie. They snap on, stay in place, but pull free easily in an emergency exit or to fold them over and out of the way when the temps heat up. It feels cleaner on the inside than with the setups with a strap, bungee or velcro around the bar end. I've used these on the neoprene Bar Mits as well as the ATV logic pogies.
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    This is a great idea. I'm working on some minicell plugs for the inner end of pogies to fill the air gap and protect the brake cable from getting squeezed just outside the lever. Still a work in progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    I used screw in snaps, General® Canvas Screw-Snap Refill (1268) - Grommets & Grommet Tools - Ace Hardware, one the ends of my pogies to keep them in place. The "male" screw in end goes into the plastic end cap of my ODI grips, and the "female" button head rivets onto the pogie. They snap on, stay in place, but pull free easily in an emergency exit or to fold them over and out of the way when the temps heat up. It feels cleaner on the inside than with the setups with a strap, bungee or velcro around the bar end. I've used these on the neoprene Bar Mits as well as the ATV logic pogies.
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    I like those. The rare earth magnets I'm currently using are pretty underwhelming. They only sorta work. The strength of the hold of the magnets is attenuated pretty significantly by the end caps of the grips and the little pockets I sewed in to hold the magnets on the pogie side. Bump anything or pull a little too hard on the pogies and the magnets are pulled away.

    Quote Originally Posted by voon View Post
    Argh, you evil people and your sowing skills. Did anyone consider using Primaloft?
    I considered it, but decided against it.

    The reason is thickness. Primaloft is a very fluffy insulation. It's very thick. It insulates better when it's allowed space to loft (like down). For this application, that thickness is a disadvantage. I have Primaloft ski gloves and they're very bulky. I don't want a puffy jacket for my hands. Thinsulate is a much thinner insulation. Think about it. Thinsulate isn't used all that often for jackets, and when it is, they're pretty thin. It gets used a lot in gloves and footwear. Places where thinness is an advantage.

    insulation fabrics

    My pogies are so warm that I don't even use them until temps get below 20F. Above 20, I just use a warmer glove.

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    Yes, Primaloft is an artificial down .. I bet it needs volume to store the hot air of course. What confuses me, though, is that I have a neck tube marketed as primaloft. And it's extremely thin.

    https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content...enu=1000,18,57

    Apparently you can use primaloft to make some sort of yarn you can weave into thin cloth .. these tubes are very thing cloth, nothing puffy at all and just one layer. I guess the yarn does provide microfibres through being Primaloft and being warmer than say a simialrly thin cloth of cotton. Not that it would be enough to keep subfreeze temps out ... but I wodner how much primaloft thickness you'd need. 45Nrth and Specialized both make a primaloft pogie.

    I'm not too cloth savvy for winter biking .. it's something new I start this winter (having spent decades on summerbiking I'm going to freeze to death). It can drop to -30C up in the mountains in the mornings .. so I consider pogies. Primaloft sounded great .. although there's so much stuff made by Polartec, 3M, Goretex.. it's a bit confusing to understand. I guess there's only trying it out.

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    Pics of snaps on pogies - for some reason I can't edit first post. Obviously, this particular grip isn't an ODI, but any rigid end capped bar will take the screw in male snap.
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    Very cool ... love the button idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    I like those. The rare earth magnets I'm currently using are pretty underwhelming. They only sorta work. The strength of the hold of the magnets is attenuated pretty significantly by the end caps of the grips and the little pockets I sewed in to hold the magnets on the pogie side. Bump anything or pull a little too hard on the pogies and the magnets are pulled away..
    I believe I gave you the idea and after a few years I'm not too keen on it either. For one reason or another they fail every year. May look into the snaps.

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    Do you need a special tool to close the female end? I've got a rivet tool.
    Do you need to reinforce the fabric around the hole which the female piece creates?

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    The snap kit I got had the anvil and punch included to hammer "rivet" the female snap on. Similar to the setup for putting in grommets, like on a tarp. I did not reinforce or melt the thru hole for the snap head, instead using a sharp awl to split/widen the fabric rather than tear it - will probably be different depending on the fabric you're using. I figured the process of riveting on the snap would provide enough pressure between the two halves to prevent fraying of the fabric and insulation trapped between. The kit below shows snaps where both the female and male snap side rivet on - on the first pics I showed, that snap kit has a screw incorporated into the male snap instead (which is what I used). Clear as mud? If someone knows of a rigid plastic bar end cap that cams/jams into the bar end, then that could be used in conjunction with normal grips - my setup is limited right now to ODI style lock on's. I know that where it gets really cold, metal clamps on grips would suck the heat out of you - a bomber end cap would allow one to do this with foam grips as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watermonkey View Post
    ........If someone knows of a rigid plastic bar end cap that cams/jams into the bar end, then that could be used in conjunction with normal grips - ............ a bomber end cap would allow one to do this with foam grips as well.
    There are lots of plastic screw in end plugs available in the BMX market.
    My son just so happens to have these used with a Cane Creek foam grip.
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