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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    in!
    My new bike arrives on Tuesday, I'll post my gruesome picture once it arrives.

    12. Articles 8 to 11 should also be applied with fatbikes. Insurmountable difficulties in photographing bicycles should be met with the terms of visual terms
    Could someone please explain what I will need to do to violate this rule? I've read it several times and it's just not sinking in. I want to be able to check off every box when I post my pic.

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    Really?

    What asteroid did you drop off of, and how did you not burn up on entry into our atmosphere? Give yur head a shake and post your photo how-to somewhere more appropriate. Your points would be well taken in the proper context, but this aint it. This is the best thread going, and you're mucking it up!

    Thanks for the great pics, EVERYONE. Live the Fat Life!
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    vallengrach;

    Thanks for the insight regarding bicycle photography, I had no prior knowledge regarding the rules that should be followed when photographing a bike. I will try to apply more of these next time I am out biking.

    I will say though that I could give two sh*ts regarding your opinions about photography. Any experienced photographer knows that some of the best photos ever taken break many rules, and that photography can sometimes be more "in the moment", rather an setting up a scene for a half hour and snapping a pic.

    I figured that since you provided so much input regarding the cardinal rules of bike photography, that you most certainly have provided mtbr some stunning photos of your bike/a bike that would be a good example of "a perfect bike photograph". So I took it upon myself to search your through 21 posts on mtbr to find such an example.

    I found a number of posts that are a simple waste of bandwidth, only existing so you can have a post count high enough to grace us all with your stunning photographs

    After much anticipation, I found this. Over exposed, lacks contract, rule of 1/3's?
    Quote Originally Posted by vallengrach View Post

    907 2012 sliding dropout, perhaps the first one in Finland
    Maybe practice what you preach, or simply keep your thoughts to yourself until you can provide personal examples which follow the rules, or at least follow the basic rules of photography, regardless of content?

    end rant/

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    pastime

    can't ride, doing a close second............what's that honey? Oh ya I'm folding the laundry.
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    Next time I ride, I'll call my art director, stylist, makeup artist, director of photography, attorney, and make sure the production truck is rigged and ready.

    That will be much easier than making sure my phone has enough of a charge to take a picture or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Let's start showing where we take our bikes...
    Just to put it all in perspective, this is what the first post in this thread said.

    It's about the places we take our bikes, not the bikes.

    Anyhow, I'll look forward to seeing Mr Vallengrach's new 907 featuring in some interesting place soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vallengrach View Post
    I have to get this out, I'm sorry. I just can't withhold it anymore, there's too much bad photography of nice bikes in here.


    The Correct Way to Photograph a Bicycle:

    1. Background of the picture should be plain or simplified.
    2. Photo should be taken in vertical and horizontal direction perpendicular to the bicycle
    3. Handlebar should be level
    4. The Bicycle should be photographed from the drive side
    5. The Bicycle can be supported in an upright position with regard to the style of said bicycle or a suitable object. The support is permissible to be removed by image processing
    6. With a geared bicycle the chain should be on the largest chainring and on the smallest sprocket. With a three chainring drive this rule can be deviated from for aesthetic reasons, and the chainring may be selected so that the chain is parallel in both the stroller above and below
    7. The Bicycle can be photographed without pedals. Any pedal should be level, in case of asymmetric pedals the side attaching to the shoe must face up
    8. The drive-side crank should point forward in line with the chainstay. Specialty (such as fat-) bike cranks can be positioned horizontally if aesthetic reasons favor it
    9. Tires should be installed in such a manner that the valve is in the middle of the tire text. If the tire has several texts the most visible should be selected
    10. 11. If there are several visual elements in the side profile of the rim, the most dominant one should be set in line with the most dominant text in the tire
    11. Valves should be left behind the front fork and the seatstay. If there are dominant visual elements in the tire or rim an exception can be made and the valve be set in an upright or downright postion with regard to the most visible element in the tire
    12. Articles 8 to 11 should also be applied with fatbikes. Insurmountable difficulties in photographing bicycles should be met with the terms of visual terms
    13. If the photographed bicycle is in it's model, type of use, cleanliness, size, chain tension, saddle height or angle, stem length or angle, or any other feature different from those generally accepted, the bicycle is to be subjected to peer criticism
    Here is gcappy's photo rules:
    1. I will share any pictures I chose with any backround I choose.
    2. I will share pictures taken from any perspective I chose, not just perpendicular.
    3. I will share pictures with handelbars not level if I so choose.
    4. I will share pictures of non drive sides.
    5. I will share pictures of bikes either supported by other objects or just laying on the ground if I so choose.
    6. I will share pictures of bikes with the chain on any cog I so choose.
    7. I will share pictures of bikes with pedals in any configuration I so choose.
    8. I will share pictures of bikes with the drive side crank arm in any position I so choose.
    9. I will share pictures of bikes with valve stems in any position I so choose.
    10. I will share pictures of bikes with visual elements in any position regarding the rim I so choose.
    11. Repeat number nine.
    12. I will share pictures of bikes with complete disregard to number 8-11 as I so choose.
    13. I will share pictures of bikes that are definitely not model fit and I will disregard any criticism garnered.

    If any one on this or any other forum where I have posted such pictures does not like them or would like to instruct me on the proper way to post pictures they may _____________________, fill in the blank!

    Keep all the unprofessional pictures coming guy's. I and every one but one so far enjoys them. If this forum required perfection, none of us would be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vallengrach View Post
    I have to get this out, I'm sorry. I just can't withhold it anymore, there's too much bad photography of nice bikes in here.


    The Correct Way to Photograph a Bicycle:

    1. Background of the picture should be plain or simplified.
    2. Photo should be taken in vertical and horizontal direction perpendicular to the bicycle
    3. Handlebar should be level
    4. The Bicycle should be photographed from the drive side
    5. The Bicycle can be supported in an upright position with regard to the style of said bicycle or a suitable object. The support is permissible to be removed by image processing
    6. With a geared bicycle the chain should be on the largest chainring and on the smallest sprocket. With a three chainring drive this rule can be deviated from for aesthetic reasons, and the chainring may be selected so that the chain is parallel in both the stroller above and below
    7. The Bicycle can be photographed without pedals. Any pedal should be level, in case of asymmetric pedals the side attaching to the shoe must face up
    8. The drive-side crank should point forward in line with the chainstay. Specialty (such as fat-) bike cranks can be positioned horizontally if aesthetic reasons favor it
    9. Tires should be installed in such a manner that the valve is in the middle of the tire text. If the tire has several texts the most visible should be selected
    10. 11. If there are several visual elements in the side profile of the rim, the most dominant one should be set in line with the most dominant text in the tire
    11. Valves should be left behind the front fork and the seatstay. If there are dominant visual elements in the tire or rim an exception can be made and the valve be set in an upright or downright postion with regard to the most visible element in the tire
    12. Articles 8 to 11 should also be applied with fatbikes. Insurmountable difficulties in photographing bicycles should be met with the terms of visual terms
    13. If the photographed bicycle is in it's model, type of use, cleanliness, size, chain tension, saddle height or angle, stem length or angle, or any other feature different from those generally accepted, the bicycle is to be subjected to peer criticism
    This is a joke right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    ....cool pics of devastated beach....
    Phone reply fail!

    I was meaning to say in a rep comment to gcappy that cruising up the beach around Biloxi MS post Katrina was the most emotional cycling I've done in my travels.

    Since I feel like I should correct the comment, we'll jump in the wayback machine to 2007-ish if you'll excuse the 26x2.25 tires......If ONLY I had a fatty back then





    I'm sure there was a fine southern house here...



    I guess there was a hotel here. The gambling laws at the time was that it had to occur over the water. So the Casinos were built on pilings. Nice way to skirt the law until massive storm surge moves the Casino 10mi inland.





    At the time this was "tee hee" funny, but now I wonder what happened to the owner of the boat.


    Could have been an awesome place! But all that was there across from the Hard Rock was a foundation/staircase/steps/awning



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    There was a lot of Fat at the Grand Targhee Fat Bike Race this past weekend.


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    First ride on snow !

    after waiting snow...now with about 12cm , it's time to go riding in French forest of FONTAINEBLEAU !!!
    nice experience.......need only more sun for better pics.
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    12 degrees with a 10mph headwind on the way out made for a really cold start. Riding with the wind on the way back was amazing.


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    Perfect conditions for a ride in Mansfield Ontario.
    Temperature dropped over the course of the ride from -4C to -10C, but couldn't stop riding. A little late for diner but was worth it!

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    ianick,

    Looks like the shore of Saylorville Lake?

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    The Roadie guys are pretty anal about how bikes should be photographed. I'm surprised that he didn't suggest having the bike leaning against a white garage door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike4two View Post
    ianick,

    Looks like the shore of Saylorville Lake?
    You are correct! Good riding around the lake and up the river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianick View Post
    12 degrees with a 10mph headwind on the way out made for a really cold start. Riding with the wind on the way back was amazing.

    Where do you put in to get to the trail area? How many miles of trail do you ride around there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vallengrach View Post
    13. If the photographed bicycle is in it's model, type of use, cleanliness, size, chain tension, saddle height or angle, stem length or angle, or any other feature different from those generally accepted, the bicycle is to be subjected to peer criticism
    That should be its, not it's.

    Learn more here.

    Do it correctly from now on.
    Out to ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by hummbusa View Post
    Where do you put in to get to the trail area? How many miles of trail do you ride around there?
    There's not really a trail area. We rode from the Mile Long Bridge boat ramp to the highway 17 bridge. It's about 5 miles of dry lake bed and shoreline. I imagine with the lake level at an all time low you can probably ride all the way around.

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    Okay, since we now know the rules regarding the photos we are allowed post, I'd like to add my contribution.

    The Twin Cities area singletrack is basically unrideable without studs, which means I've been relegated to the snomo trails. Luckily, there are a lot of those around here. From my ride last Tuesday. Sadly, there is not nearly so much snow here now. Rots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vallengrach View Post
    I have to get this out, I'm sorry. I just can't withhold it anymore, there's too much bad photography of nice bikes in here.


    The Correct Way to Photograph a Bicycle:

    1. Background of the picture should be plain or simplified.
    2. Photo should be taken in vertical and horizontal direction perpendicular to the bicycle
    3. Handlebar should be level
    4. The Bicycle should be photographed from the drive side
    5. The Bicycle can be supported in an upright position with regard to the style of said bicycle or a suitable object. The support is permissible to be removed by image processing
    6. With a geared bicycle the chain should be on the largest chainring and on the smallest sprocket. With a three chainring drive this rule can be deviated from for aesthetic reasons, and the chainring may be selected so that the chain is parallel in both the stroller above and below
    7. The Bicycle can be photographed without pedals. Any pedal should be level, in case of asymmetric pedals the side attaching to the shoe must face up
    8. The drive-side crank should point forward in line with the chainstay. Specialty (such as fat-) bike cranks can be positioned horizontally if aesthetic reasons favor it
    9. Tires should be installed in such a manner that the valve is in the middle of the tire text. If the tire has several texts the most visible should be selected
    10. 11. If there are several visual elements in the side profile of the rim, the most dominant one should be set in line with the most dominant text in the tire
    11. Valves should be left behind the front fork and the seatstay. If there are dominant visual elements in the tire or rim an exception can be made and the valve be set in an upright or downright postion with regard to the most visible element in the tire
    12. Articles 8 to 11 should also be applied with fatbikes. Insurmountable difficulties in photographing bicycles should be met with the terms of visual terms
    13. If the photographed bicycle is in it's model, type of use, cleanliness, size, chain tension, saddle height or angle, stem length or angle, or any other feature different from those generally accepted, the bicycle is to be subjected to peer criticism

    Thanks for the laugh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tincup69 View Post
    Thanks for the laugh!
    I wonder if the new guy copied and pasted from somewhere like weightweenies or actually took the time to write it. Either way...

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    I have the following problem: I drive the bike with the left leg, I even grinded the right one, but the chain is on the rigth side,..
    So what side to picture?

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