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    I was hoping the Big Dummy and Pugsley had finally inbred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saw View Post
    Nice! From this angle your tire looks like a factory tire. Actually, it would be easy to mistake it for the Surly.

    How do you like it? How does it perform compared to a normal 29" tire and a fat tire? How has your tire held up to abuse?
    Fist note: it's a unicycle so might not translate to bike

    Compared to a regular 29" tire on the same rim, well it's fatter. I think we all know what goes with that.

    Compared to my other fat wheel (Devast8er 26x4 on 80mm rim) it seems to have less drag in the snow but slightly less float. It's more recoverable when it punches through the crust but can be a bit unwieldy when going slower.

    It hasn't seen all that much use, maybe 200km, mostly snow. No noticeable wear.

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    Great respect for your handycraft effort Eric, I wish you'd be on the scene doing this in the 70's and 80's. 29" would have been here much longer, 32" already well available.
    Looking forward to update on your experiments with Fat donor tires sewn to a 36" and especially 32" diameter rim!
    Darn, I wish you were a bike rather than a unicyclist :-)

    As I wrote in another thread. If this Surly deal is to be 29x3.0 or so, not a larger rim still (doesn't look like it to me, but would love to be wrong), I would think it would fit decently in a Pugsley and well in a Moonlander. There's some good vertical room in the back as I seem to remember. the 700c rim add just 31.5mm in wheel radius (which counts for vertical clearance) and with a FatOnDiet tire, it'd be under an inch. And of course less confining at the stays. Should be a good deal especially to those liking tall BB, whether or not to be able to use longer than standard cranks.

    Any new details on the rumor on topic?

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    Surly posted a pic of the new bike on twitter, looks pretty insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR2ebike View Post
    Surly posted a pic of the new bike on twitter, looks pretty insane.
    Twitter / surlybikes: Our new prototype bike. Ju
    That was posted back on page 2 of the thread. The good pics are on page 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markus_mudd View Post
    I was hoping the Big Dummy and Pugsley had finally inbred.
    I'd buy that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I'd buy that
    me too.

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    Some pics of my DH 29er wheels.

    Cris Holm FR rims w/ 2.5 Dissents vs P35 rims w/ 2.4 Ardents

    The Holm/Diss are really stout but really heavy. The bike is still under construction so I haven't been able to try them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodi2259 View Post
    Thanks google



    I noticed one of those spy photos has a comment on it now that says, "To all the nonbelievers: it said "Surly" and "29 x 3.0" on the side wall."

    That chain stay yoke is interesting. Looks like it has room for an even taller wheel.

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    Taller yes, but not with much side clearance.
    That said, it would would fine with a "regular" 32x2.5" tire. Oohh....

    Could the mold to make a 29x3.0 be big enough to also make a 32x2.5" which we (I for one) want just as badly, albeit for entirely differently reasons?

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    How much differance will a 29x3" be compared to a 29x2.55" which is possible this now on a Karate Monkey?, not that much i imagine, must be more to this new bike?

    Starting to think that Surly are making that many bikes the way forward for someone buying there first fatbike is buy a 170mm inline fatbike that can take 100mm rims with BFLs then they can just add wheel sets of what ever tyre/rim width they want/require...
    170 hubs are not the cheapest but one bike with even 3 wheel sets is still way cheaper than 3 bikes...

    Looking forward to seeing this new bike anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by coastkid71 View Post
    How much differance will a 29x3" be compared to a 29x2.55" which is possible this now on a Karate Monkey?, not that much i imagine, must be more to this new bike?
    The difference between a 26 x 2.6 Nokian Gazzaloddi and a 26 x 3.0 Gazzaloddi is huge. ~10mm in width and casing height.
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    I for one, being approximately of Hobbit height, would prefer to see a couple of 26x3.0 or so summer specific tires that would compliment LM-lites...though I gotta admit, 29x3.0 might be fun too...guess it would depend upon how tite-n-twisty the trail du jour might be...
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    That proto looks like it was made for a hobbit...

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    I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I've got a couple of 47mm wide 29er rims sitting around doing nothing at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I've got a couple of 47mm wide 29er rims sitting around doing nothing at the moment.
    Yep !

    Paying Holm-age to Chris may be a relatively cheap way of experiencing Surly's new 29er rubber before buying their (usually) rather expensive rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTMN View Post
    That proto looks like it was made for a hobbit...
    Surly has a new super-small 14" frame size, could this be it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    I for one, being approximately of Hobbit height, would prefer to see a couple of 26x3.0 or so summer specific tires that would compliment LM-lites...though I gotta admit, 29x3.0 might be fun too...guess it would depend upon how tite-n-twisty the trail du jour might be...
    I'm 6'2" but same here, I want some Skinny Larrys or whatever for Large Marge Lites. Whatever is the biggest tire will fit into a 1x1/Troll frame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Yep !

    Paying Holm-age to Chris may be a relatively cheap way of experiencing Surly's new 29er rubber before buying their (usually) rather expensive rims.
    I don't know about cheap. I was only able to find his rims at one vendor in the US and with the ridiculous shipping charge it was about $115 per rim. I don't think Surly charges more than that do they? I think the weight on them was 895g too which is pretty high.

    The rims are drilled but I've thought that possibly I could cut out the inner wall and still leave the double wall at the bead. However I'm not sure it would take that much weight out and would take a lot of strength away. So.. alternatives would be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnitman View Post
    I for one, being approximately of Hobbit height, would prefer to see a couple of 26x3.0 or so summer specific tires that would compliment LM-lites...though I gotta admit, 29x3.0 might be fun too...guess it would depend upon how tite-n-twisty the trail du jour might be...
    Get a set of BOA-G tires from 3gbikes, they 26"x3.0".

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    A Fatback'd Lefty for who life IS a Beach

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    My KH rims were 56 each here in the UK, the weight i do not notice while riding as the bike (Karate Monkey) still rolls way quicker than both my fat bikes...


    Karate Monkey by coastkid71, on Flickr

    I am more interested in strenght than weight, the wheels allow me to ride with full suss bikes and these rims take a beasting
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    For Europeans looking for cheap Kris Holm rims :
    Municycle.com - Unicycle.com Germany - Felge - 622mm (28 Zoll) Cross Kris Holm 36 Loch
    39Euro's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Thanks, but that is where I bought them.

    My invoice doesn't have numbers on it but I think shipping was $40 for 2 rims.
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    unrelated to the bike in quesiton, but it's a new surly fatbike related question.
    when will the pugs get the troll's dropouts?
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