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    Oh boy another bike I want! No wait I NEED!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigE View Post
    any word on frame sizes for this bad boy?

    A xxl 24 inch frame like the Ogre would be really cool...
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    I bear out 24 inch would be great very great

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    Any guess on how long until the Rabbit Hole rims are available separately?

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    Diggin' the sparkly green pain job and the 1.5" HT. Hopefully, it won't be too hard to find a 29er suspension fork that'll fit those bad boys.

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    'Buzzkill caution'

    Is this replacing the Karate Monkey? How short on clearance is a KM? Is the Krump BB lower? Please say you didn't make a super long fork...

    That said, I'm psyched about the rims and tires!

    *cough* 650b rabbit hole *cough*

    Edit.... And why a 1.5 in vs a 44mm HT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post

    *cough* 650b rabbit hole *cough*
    Why? It would seem to me that the rabbit hole/knard effectively renders 650b pointless, at least for everyone that's over 5'-4" tall

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    Krampuses? Krampi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post


    Krampuses

    Wouldn't that be "Krampi" for plural? Or maybe it is like "deer", in which case Krampus would serve as both plural and singular. E.g., "I see five, no six, Krampus through the trees! They're huge and absolutely gorgeous! What has Surly been feeding these things?"

    Edit: Guitar Ted beat me to the question. My apologies for being (inadvertently) redundant.
    Last edited by Saw; 07-20-2012 at 07:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieMang View Post
    Why? It would seem to me that the rabbit hole/knard effectively renders 650b pointless, at least for everyone that's over 5'-4" tall
    Because I can't possibly see how the Hole-Knard combo will possibly render 650b pointless......and because wide 29 in rims have been out for a while.

    *Edit* both statements made with the full knowledge that they would be somewhat inflammatory in this thread. That said it's all good natured and bring it!

    Adding a log or two on the coming flames......you CAN'T buy anything 650b related at this time. It's all sold out, for a while. It ain't going away, at least not before this 29er crap dies out.

    And that my wager in this thread was on a fat 650b...and I was wrong, so suck it.

    Here's to the death of 26in wheels!

    Again....all in good fun, if you find yourself inflamed by my postings.... aat least have the dignity to imbibe a few more beers and get good and proper pissed prior to responding. I know I did.
    Last edited by G-reg; 07-20-2012 at 06:52 PM.
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    Yes 29" wide rims have been here for a while, but not with offset/double drilling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Yes 29" wide rims have been here for a while, but not with offset/double drilling
    Nor 3" Tires!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Yes 29" wide rims have been here for a while, but not with offset/double drilling
    indeed always a caveat

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post

    Here's to the death of 26in wheels!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Feelygood ! View Post
    Yes 29" wide rims have been here for a while, but not with offset/double drilling
    I already admitted to being excited about the rim/tire I've been really impressed with every Surly branded rim that I've had the opportunity to fondle. And might find some use for rabbit holes if for no other reason than just because!

    Just saying that while filling random bike nerd niches...how about cutting the rim extrusion an inch shorter and starting to fill an untapped but rapidly expanding niche.












    That and Meeeeh! And that if there were some 650 tires bigger than 2.35 there would be lots of 29in frames that could be "husky" bikes. Meeeeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Cheers!!
    Cheers indeed "J"

    These rando E-tough guy posts are directly your fault. You were right months ago about the name, and I was only kinda right about 29x3.....That and I've been quaffing quite a few homebrew EPA's that I need to let you sample before I take them all down. Ohhh, my pocket is vibrating....
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    ..That and I've been quaffing quite a few homebrew EPA's that I need to let you sample before I take them all down.
    Damn right you do.

    I'm kinda torn about this Krampus stuff honestly. It's a gorgeous bike and I'm in serious lust with it, but I feel that the overlap in the Surly lineup may be the end of the Karate Monkey. For myself, and probably others, the KM was the gateway drug into the "alt" world of mountain bikes, and if this be the end/evolution of it, I have mixed emotions. I can't say I'm gonna look at my plain white Pugsley the same either. Mmmm sparkly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Train View Post
    I don't think so.
    I just checked.
    BB drop on Pugs is 2.2.
    BB drop on KM is 2.7
    Opposite of what you would think. Fat bike has less drop.
    I bet it will be closer to the 2.7 of the KM.
    I made measurements from a picture of the krampus- it looks to have a BB drop of right around 57mm (2.3") so very similar to the Pug.

    The tires measure right around 765mm diameter, so 25mm/1" larger diameter than a 26X3.8 larry (740mm) or 35mm larger diameter than a 29X2.1 tire (730mm). I would imagine that existing 26" fatbikes would not have much trouble with the larger diameter of the new 29x3 knard tire and rim if you wanted to try out this wheel size. Wonder what the actual tread width of the "3 inch" knard tire actually measures at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-reg View Post
    Because I can't possibly see how the Hole-Knard combo will possibly render 650b pointless......and because wide 29 in rims have been out for a while.

    *Edit* both statements made with the full knowledge that they would be somewhat inflammatory in this thread. That said it's all good natured and bring it!

    Adding a log or two on the coming flames......you CAN'T buy anything 650b related at this time. It's all sold out, for a while. It ain't going away, at least not before this 29er crap dies out.

    And that my wager in this thread was on a fat 650b...and I was wrong, so suck it.

    ]Here's to the death of 26in wheels!

    Again....all in good fun, if you find yourself inflamed by my postings.... aat least have the dignity to imbibe a few more beers and get good and proper pissed prior to responding. I know I did.
    On board the Fat with the Pug, but my 26er gets buried with me
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    I'm waiting for the full fat 29+ with 4" tires when Surly unveils the bigger badder Hippo-Krampus next year...
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    Jones riders: this tire rim combo is going to be great on the front of our bikes. The rim should fit the rear, but I don't think the 3.0 tire is going to fit out back. Jeff J. uses the Ardent on a 50mm rim out back.

    So is this Krampus a fat bike or a 29er? If it's a 29er, this thread is in the wrong forum. Moderator, please move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I'm waiting for the full fat 29+ with 4" tires when Surly unveils the bigger badder Hippo-Krampus next year...
    This. Krampus looks cool but doesn't go far enough.
    Worked at Trek/Fisher dealer 2008-2013. Only a little biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    So is this Krampus a fat bike or a 29er? If it's a 29er, this thread is in the wrong forum. Moderator, please move.
    It's a Chubb - we need a new forum!...
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    Was looking at my single speed frameset hanging in my shop tonight
    It has a carbon niner fork measuring 3.35 inches wide at the narrowest point
    might have to put it back together :-)

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    29" is the new 26", get used to it

    I'm putting one of them l Knards on my Oregon, sweet tall tire fatness!

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    They'd fit on my Moonlander, but then I wouldn't have an excuse for why I'm so painfully slow.

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