• 07-17-2012
    Ze_Zaskar
    I was about to make the exact same question about the dropouts. The Ogre/Troll dropouts are a success, and seem to fit a fatbike's purpose much better than the current ones
  • 07-20-2012
    Bob@Surly
    We decided that since this was the first place to speculate about one of our new bikes wed do a bit of a release right here and now in this thread. This is official and this is the first place we, Surly, are talking about this publicly.

    Our new bike is called Krampus.
    Its the first bike for a platform weve created called 29+ (important little detail there).
    Its a 29er. Brilliant, you get a gold star.
    Its got clearance for up to a 3 tire.
    It gets this done with a 73mm BB.

    Im guessing that youd like to know more and I bet youd like to see some pictures. All in good time my friend.

    Youve entertained us rather well and weve paid attention. We read the forums and the blogs wherever were mentioned. Now lets see if youre paying attention.
  • 07-20-2012
    ozzybmx
    Sweet !!!
  • 07-20-2012
    jfkbike2
    [QUOTE=Bob@Surly;9517371

    Im guessing that youd like to know more and I bet youd like to see some pictures. All in good time my friend.[/QUOTE]

    Sounds like what I have been waiting for... when is "all in good time" going to be! :D
  • 07-20-2012
    Twins Guyo17
    nice sleuthing all! the pics of this thing parked near my LBS had me all atwitter.

    29+ eh? is there a new wheel standard we should know about? room for a 32? heard walmart had such a beast.

    i want to see the rims and tire offerings. wonder if the rims at least could be put on a KM?
  • 07-20-2012
    Big_Toobs
    Can't wait for pics! Nice name -

    Krampus is a mythical creature recognized in Alpine countries. According to legend, Krampus accompanies Saint Nicholas during the Christmas season, warning and punishing bad children, in contrast to St. Nicholas, who gives gifts to good children. When the Krampus finds a particularly naughty child, it stuffs the child in its sack and carries the frightened child away to its lair, presumably to devour for its Christmas dinner.

    Krampus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • 07-20-2012
    Drew Diller
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Twins Guyo17 View Post
    new wheel standard

    :rolleyes: heh, standard.

    Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

    Excited to see pics! Coming from a guy who is interested in 36ers but probably too short for one to be, uh, practical.
  • 07-20-2012
    vikb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bob@Surly View Post
    Our new bike is called Krampus.
    Its the first bike for a platform weve created called 29+ (important little detail there).
    Its a 29er. Brilliant, you get a gold star.
    Its got clearance for up to a 3 tire.

    3" tires is too skinny for a fat bike. I guess we need a new category - how about a Chubby or Chubbike?....;)
  • 07-20-2012
    El Train
    I bet it all comes out tomorrow at the Saddledrive expo...oh boy! hope it has normal hub spacing....for running standard 29er wheels as well as whatever 29+ is...
  • 07-20-2012
    Ze_Zaskar
    Just hope I don't like this Krampus better than the Ogre I just bought
  • 07-20-2012
    vikb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by El Train View Post
    I bet it all comes out tomorrow at the Saddledrive expo...oh boy! hope it has normal hub spacing....for running standard 29er wheels as well as whatever 29+ is...

    Keep an eye on the difference in BB height's between the Chuby wheels + rubber and normal 29er wheels + rubber. If it's too much the BB will be way low on normal 29ers and not terribly useful.
  • 07-20-2012
    Rabies010
    There is a lot attention for this thread :

    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 566 (52 members and 514 guests)


    And i am starting to have doubt about finishing the build of my KM....:madman:
  • 07-20-2012
    hunter006
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ze_Zaskar View Post
    Just hope I don't like this Krampus better than the Ogre I just bought

    I thought the same thing when I heard the words, "Surly is coming up with a new bike!" just 2 weeks after I bought my Ogre...
  • 07-20-2012
    MauricioB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bob@Surly View Post
    Now lets see if youre paying attention.

    Yer from Surly, huh? Forgive my skepticism, but prove it, Mr. 1 post with no rep.
  • 07-20-2012
    chubbyone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MauricioB View Post
    Yer from Surly, huh? Forgive my skepticism, but prove it, Mr. 1 post with no rep.

    Surly has linked this thread on their main-page via twitter.
  • 07-20-2012
    HardyWeinberg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    "A mythical beast is being ridden" . Sounds like a new bike.
    Mythical beasts: Bigfoot, chupacabra, sasquatch, yeti (taken), minotaur, Jersey Devil, unicorn...

    Rainbow Pegasus-Unicorn
  • 07-20-2012
    Bob@Surly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MauricioB View Post
    Yer from Surly, huh? Forgive my skepticism, but prove it, Mr. 1 post with no rep.

    Call the phone number on Surly's website and see who answers the phone.

    In case you're too lazy to find it: 877.743.3191
  • 07-20-2012
    ward
    Groovy! 3" for 29 "plus"... increased contact patch, floatation, "rollability" by adjusting things longidude wise rather than latitude wise. I get it! Can't wait to ride one! Could be real cool for bike packing, especially for those carrying a little heavier/bulkier load. Sounds like the Unimog of bikes to me. Unimogs touch the ground- and roll over it- in a much different manner than most other 4x4 trucks-and all while getting twice (or more) the gas milage of comparable trucks, having a bigger bed, and taking up less "real estate" (and have done so since the '50's). Sorry for drawing similaritys to a motor vehicle, I just see similar thinking in design. Unimogs(particularly the old military versions) use a high floatation tire/rim that appears more like a skinny, not so high floatation set-up. It's done by increasing the diamiter and keeping the rim as wide as (or a little wider) than the tread. I used to have a Mog and it's an amazing affect. My '62 Mog could cruise down the rockyest roads and you'd hardly feel a bump in the seat... totally stock w/ military tires. Trully amazing! If you've driven or ridden in a Mog, you know what I'm talking about. Got a feelin' that's sort of what we're headed for w/ this new "twist"... the "Krampus".... a "Mog-Bike"!

    My Mog (can't see it but there's a Klein w/ Snow-Cats in the back)...
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/51222326@N04/7074163673/" title="Tekison May '99 019 by wardee61, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/7074163673_4bde3b88ed_c.jpg" width="800" height="515" alt="Tekison May '99 019"></a>
  • 07-20-2012
    ~martini~
    MauricioB,
    its all true. Really it is. I've not SEEN it, but conversed with secretively high level Surly employs, and all those details were confirmed. I was even promised a ride on one. maybe. if he ever gets one.
    http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...76007853_n.jpg
  • 07-20-2012
    nvphatty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chubbyone View Post
    Surly has linked this thread on their main-page via twitter.

    and what of facebook?
  • 07-20-2012
    ward
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rabies010 View Post
    There is a lot attention for this thread :

    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 566 (52 members and 514 guests)


    And i am starting to have doubt about finishing the build of my KM....:madman:

    I've had a KM sitting on my bench un-built for a couple years now due to these dang, constant new developements. I'ts going to have to keep waiting and now seems destined for a monster cross project.
  • 07-20-2012
    Rabies010
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ward View Post
    I've had a KM sitting on my bench un-built for a couple years now due to these dang, constant new developements. I'ts going to have to keep waiting and now seems destined for a monster cross project.

    With a 73mm BB and a 29er base on the Krampus, i might put my KM on hold for a while as well.
    I already got all the parts and there is a set of P-35's coming my way as well.
    So if all i need is a set of 29+ tires, my monkey will probably end up being a spare frame.
  • 07-20-2012
    Rabies010
    1 Attachment(s)
    From the Surly blog :
  • 07-20-2012
    MauricioB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bob@Surly View Post
    Call the phone number on Surly's website and see who answers the phone.

    In case you're too lazy to find it: 877.743.3191

    Yup, I called and he is who he sez he is. As I told him on the phone, I applaud Surly for taking chances on this freaky stuff. :thumbsup:

    So there you go.
  • 07-20-2012
    Ze_Zaskar
    Ufff... no super dropouts or ultimate braze ons. My Ogre is safe again