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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkers View Post

    Even if I don't think I'd ever run tires that big, why limit yourself? Minds change and you may find yourself wanting to try a bigger tire after all at some point.

    ^This

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    And cuz it's the interwebs, here's my 2 cents

    If doing full squish, design it around trail riding, not snow. Go with slack HT <68 degrees, long TT and short stays <440mm. And minimum 120 rear travel. Also, I would vote 177 rear for 4 inch tires.

    Having the option to use 5 inchers is awesome for snow and sand. But rear suspension is not needed there. It's just extra weight and parts to wear out from cold and moisture. Go super wide and rigid for snow and sand.

    Full squish is for rough trails with roots and rocks and drops. Smaller tire means less weight and quicker responsiveness while provide the benefits of fat, smoothness and grip.

    Just my opinion. If it drives you nuts, that's ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_biker View Post
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    And cuz it's the interwebs, here's my 2 cents

    If doing full squish, design it around trail riding, not snow. Go with slack HT <68 degrees, long TT and short stays <440mm. And minimum 120 rear travel. Also, I would vote 177 rear for 4 inch tires.

    Having the option to use 5 inchers is awesome for snow and sand. But rear suspension is not needed there. It's just extra weight and parts to wear out from cold and moisture. Go super wide and rigid for snow and sand.

    Full squish is for rough trails with roots and rocks and drops. Smaller tire means less weight and quicker responsiveness while provide the benefits of fat, smoothness and grip.

    Just my opinion. If it drives you nuts, that's ok
    ^^^^Totally agree. Full sys and 5" tires is a contradiction of intent IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_biker View Post
    Go with slack HT <68 degrees, long TT and short stays <440mm. And minimum 120 rear travel. Also, I would vote 177 rear for 4 inch tires.


    How about 68.9* HA (based on a 531mm A-C and a 610 ETT on a 17.5" frame. And 150mm rear travel ?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue_biker View Post
    If it drives you nuts, that's ok
    As ya said if it drives ya nuts . . . . . . . .


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    PeterXU, do you have a timeline for making this full suspension frame available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmars3571 View Post
    PeterXU, do you have a timeline for making this full suspension frame available?
    Was this answered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back-to-Doo View Post
    Was this answered?
    He answered my email promptly stating that a 19" frame would not be done before July.

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    Anybody who wants to know the status on our FS fat bike frame project can contact me via email : petercycles@foxmail.com

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    email sent! Thanks Peter
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    Quote Originally Posted by WSUPolar View Post
    email sent! Thanks Peter
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    Edited to remove geometry specs per Peters request. I am sorry, I should have asked for permission first.
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    Oh sweet that all sounds good. What does the rear suspension look like? Is it like the Salsa or something else?

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    Edited to remove geometry specs. Sorry, Peter... It looks freakin' killer though!
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    Right on! (and nice timing maybe)

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    Xxl?


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    Sounds nice! Post pics when you can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirsam84 View Post
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    Excited about this frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenPsz View Post
    Excited about this frame
    Me too. Shouldn't be too hard to put a picture up. Send me the PDF. I can turn it into jpg file in less than five seconds.

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    PeterXu how about posting it instead of having everyone email you.

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    I don't think Peter wants to show any drawings or such like until they are finalised and the frames are actually in production.

    Personally I would ask him via email. It can't hurt to ask.



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    Don't post up the geo guys. He's asked us not to. Please respect his request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WSUPolar View Post
    Don't post up the geo guys. He's asked us not to. Please respect his request.

    I was told it was fine to talk about the geo n such. (Possibly to build some hype and demand ? Couldn't hurt)

    But I was asked NOT to post the images.

    Seems fair to me.


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    Very similar to this:
    CS-156 650B full suspension carbon bike frame 27.5er mtb - Xiamen Carbon Speed Sport Goods Co.,Ltd

    Numbers are close to the 20 inch, but with 177 rear, but that's not all...I'm just speculating here. The frame looks killer is right!
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    i'd love to see a 21 or 22" version of this frame; 20 is too small for me by a large margin
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    I'll be excited to see these built up, shame i've just had a HT fatty frame of peter!!
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    Man I wish this was a 197 rear. That would make it the perfect frame to swap over parts from my current fatty.

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    ^^agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantic View Post
    i'd love to see a 21 or 22" version of this frame; 20 is too small for me by a large margin
    Yeah, the vast majority of carbon frame builders stop at 20". Really sad for us galoots.

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    Peter has told me that he intends to make a 21" frame eventually . But I wouldn't plan on that being too soon though.
    The plans for the 17" have not been truly finalised as far as I am aware. Then the 19" has to be developed too.


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    I requested the information from Peter and boy if this comes true and is cheap enough this would be really cool.

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    Any chance on a 15" frame?
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    Peter said around 800 dollars for the frame, not sure if that includes a shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devans View Post
    Peter said around 800 dollars for the frame, not sure if that includes a shock.
    I believe thats how they sell them...without a rear shock. And the pricing is about right based on their other full suspension carbon frames....so, not bad there!
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    $800 is reasonable, looks like I need to save up some pennies.

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    Final version of our FS frame, of course not actual pictures, we are making 17'' frame mold now.

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    Thanks Peter. This will pair up real nice with either fat rims or plus size wheels and tires! What is the eye to eye on the rear shock, bb options and head tube angle?
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    Looks sweet! Hurry up with a 15"
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    Oh well, I'll be hanging out for a 197mm suspension frame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NH Mtbiker View Post
    Thanks Peter. This will pair up real nice with either fat rims or plus size wheels and tires! What is the eye to eye on the rear shock, bb options and head tube angle?
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    So near yet so far.
    It needs 197mm rear.
    Coupled with a 120mm BB.
    At least the option to run a front mech.
    Internal dropper post routing.
    And the ability to take some 29+ tyre rim combo.

    Sorry Peter you seem to have dropped the ball IMO
    But then opinions are like a$$holes everyones got one.





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    Has anyone heard any updates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    So near yet so far.
    It needs 197mm rear.
    Coupled with a 120mm BB.
    At least the option to run a front mech.
    Internal dropper post routing.
    And the ability to take some 29+ tyre rim combo.

    Sorry Peter you seem to have dropped the ball IMO
    But then opinions are like a$$holes everyones got one.




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    YUP. No point in doing it any other way IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenPsz View Post
    Has anyone heard any updates?
    Yes, I got this from Peter a few days ago...

    "Our size 17'' sample frame will be available next month, 100mm BSA BB, 177x12 rear end, 120mm front and rear treval."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    So near yet so far.
    It needs 197mm rear.
    Coupled with a 120mm BB.
    At least the option to run a front mech.
    Internal dropper post routing.
    And the ability to take some 29+ tyre rim combo.

    Sorry Peter you seem to have dropped the ball IMO
    But then opinions are like a$$holes everyones got one.





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    Does anyone even make or has announced a full sus fatty with a 197mm rear?

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    If they do I want one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator50 View Post
    Does anyone even make or has announced a full sus fatty with a 197mm rear?
    Nope. But I and some others were hoping Peter would design his thusly. Alas it was not meant to be. I shall wait. Someone that rides something other than sand or snow will design one soon I hope.

    Sigh


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    Finally....no more words. Reservations accepted for size 17'' frames which will be available at the end of Oct or beginning of Nov, UD matt acquiescently
    Last edited by PeterXu; 09-17-2015 at 02:29 AM.

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    When will 21" frames be available?
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