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    charge cooker maxi

    likey? anyone?

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    From what I understand, isn't this the bike that Cannondale US dealers will have to sell?

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    charge is owned by cannondale.

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

    Supposed to be one out at our Global Fatbike Day ride for demos. Don't know if I'll get to throw a leg over it, but someone will.

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    nice^^^^^^. a buddy of mine ordered 4 for his shop and i'll be riding one a week from tomorrow on dirt. may come home with one

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    charge is owned by cannondale.
    Are you sure? Cannondale along with GT, Schwinn, Mongoose, Sugoi, and Caloi are owned by Dorel Corporation. No mention of Charge on their website.

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    I own one and LOVE it! It may not be the lightweight bike some are looking for, may not be full suspension, but it's a GREAT bike. Go out and have fun!! As a shop owner, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this to my clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    From what I understand, isn't this the bike that Cannondale US dealers will have to sell?
    It is the bike, we have sold a few already.

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    saw the bike for the 1st time tonight in person. bought it right away. brilliant bike from fit to finish and rides light and comfy.

    will be taking it out in the next coupla days

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    How are the brakes? I demoed one very shortly and the Promax brakes had hardly any bite. Stock tires had more self steer than I'm used to, but these things can be adjusted and/or changed.

    I do kind of like the white with red spokes.

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    rode it for the 1st time this am on a mix of dirt road, paved road, powerline, and singletrack that was made up of dry trail, icy leaf cover trails, some snow, and some mud. brakes were perfect. barely had to put pressure on the levers. ran about 9psi in the v8's only a few slips on icy leaf steep climbs, but only studs woulda kept me goin there. tires handled fine all over.

    got about a 1/2 inch of snow today and temps are in the 20's, so i'm stoked for the morning ride!

    bike is super sweet. and easy on the wallet.

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    How tall are you guys and what size are you riding?

    I am 5'7 and afraid the medium will be too long for me, my ideal effective top tube is 580ish and this thing is 602. Do they feel long in the top tube?

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    Mine should arrive at my LBS on Friday. Hopefully will be able to report some first ride feedback on saturday! I have also ordered some Surly Nate tires for the snow so I'll switch right off the bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMjunky View Post
    How tall are you guys and what size are you riding?

    I am 5'7 and afraid the medium will be too long for me, my ideal effective top tube is 580ish and this thing is 602. Do they feel long in the top tube?
    just under 6' in the morning. slighty less later on, but over 5'11. ride size large. perfect.

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    Charge's website says the bike is made of Tange seamless double butted cro-mo. Can some translate what that means for the untechnical?

    Also I ride a 16" Kona Blast now and its over all a good size. Occasionally I fell bunched up but its good for the most part. Is a 15.5"(small) cooker maxi going to be a comprable size or would i be better off at the medium at 17". I ask because I can 't test ride the different sizes. THanks for the help

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    Like all bikes, I think our choices of tires,brakes are always determined on what we choose. Here in New England, I can tell you that the tires "pack up" too easy and don't shed the snow/dirt... but then again in other areas, they might work just fine.

    Have fun everyone!!

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    Got it today! Two days faster than expected. First, this is my first fat bike, so keep that in mind. I race XC and on the road in the summer, so I love just about anything that revolves around riding on two wheels. The bike felt incredibly manoeuverable for a 35 pounds ride. Tire are definetely not a keeper in the snow. I will replace them as soon as I receive the Nates. Brakes are feeling good, but not that much powerfull. They seemed to have iced during the ride. But modularity is good and you don't need that much power in the snow and ice anyway.

    The X5 shifters were a bit of a deception. I owned bikes on X7 and above before, and the X5 are sluggish, just not the usual Sram feeling i am used to.

    Wheels are incredibely beautifull! And that thing floats over just about anything as long as you carry enough speed.

    Overall, this feels like a very good bike for the price. Some parts might need upgrade (ex: tires) depending on where you ride.

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    rode in the snow today. stock tires were totally fine. for the guy above i'd go 15.5 if your kona is a 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZmuchacho View Post
    Charge's website says the bike is made of Tange seamless double butted cro-mo. Can some translate what that means for the untechnical?
    I believe it is Tange (pronounced tahn-ghey) Infinity, I remember seeing it on a lot of Nishiki and Centurion road bikes from the late 80s/early 90s. It's a mid-range tubeset, which surprises me that this Charge bike is so cheap! It's seamless meaning that it's extruded tubing, not a flat sheet that was rolled into a tube, therefore stronger. Double butted means it's thicker on the ends than in the middle, saving weight. It's probably a smidge nicer tubing that what's used on the Surly bikes, but the specs don't say if all of the tubes are Tange Infinity or just the main triangle. Either way, it's nice quality steel, not to be confused with the old gas pipe Huffys and Schwinns of yesteryear.
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    One thing that is easy to miss about the Maxi is that it has a 135mm rear triangle. Now that is a feature which is very useful and desirable for those wanting to fit IGH with one of the nice chain tensioners. 135mm choice is getting quite rare these days. It might also mean, like the Pugsley, that a 29er+ wheelset would work but no one seems to know yet.

    Cooker Maxi

    and suitable chain tensioner if using IGH

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    From how I understand it... Tange is an Asian grade of chromoly/steel that is supposedly a higher grade; lighter & stronger.

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    Tange is a Japanese company that makes high quality chrome-moly steel tubing for bicycles. They are a direct competitor with Reynolds, Columbus, etc.

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    I have one, its a great bike for the money. I changed the v8's for a set of Nates and put a Renthal bar on it. The Nates made a huge difference to the bikes handling. I also thought the brakes were a bit week but they just took a bit of wearing in, a few rides later and they are fine, not the greatest but I wouldn't be changing them out too soon.

    I'm 5'9 and the medium is perfect.

    I am selling it though, due to having a fat bike epiphany and deciding to spend the cash I had for a new trail bike on a Borealis built up with XX1. I hadn't figured on fat biking being quite as much fun as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4nny_p View Post
    I hadn't figured on fat biking being quite as much fun as it is.
    It happens to us all, don't worry.
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    The postman just delivered the Nates today. Will be posting some feedback on saturday after test ride.

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    ^ It will be like a new bike, big difference. your going to be happy.

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    This is my first fat bike, just bought the charge cooker maxi last week. Very spontaneous purchase, I've always wanted to ride in the winter but wasn't willing to trust skinnier tyres...I know, wimp. Anyway, got a great deal on the bike fitted with studded tyres and I'm lovin' it! The thought of using a trainer in the basement was just too depressing.

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    Welcome to the fat bike riding permagrin wearing forum. Prepare for the new normal.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawigirl View Post
    This is my first fat bike, just bought the charge cooker maxi last week. Very spontaneous purchase, I've always wanted to ride in the winter but wasn't willing to trust skinnier tyres...I know, wimp. Anyway, got a great deal on the bike fitted with studded tyres and I'm lovin' it! The thought of using a trainer in the basement was just too depressing.
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    Four ride done since I got the bike last week. Amazing how fun it is! With the Surly Nate tires, I had so much fun tonight in tight singletracks, going down hills that are technical even in summer. I was impressed to rail and slide in the corners but to be able to keep control. Man that was fun....way more than expected! Love the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoo View Post
    Welcome to the fat bike riding permagrin wearing forum. Prepare for the new normal.

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    Thanks! I have always enjoyed snow as I like to ski, yet this opens up a new level of winter fun for me.
    It's snowing here again right now:-)

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    I've sold a couple of these Charge Fat bikes and everybody loves them. Not one bit of buyers remorse. Highly recommend this bike. It has Quality Parts, Frame and Fork, and Ride characteristics. The Price is amazing too. It almost seems under valued for the quality and spec your receive. Highly recommend. If your Interested in buying one I can get you set up. They still have decent inventory levels on these. Seems their not marketing them as strong as they should. Send me a PM or call Wyckoff Cycle, Wyckoff, NJ 201-891-5500

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    Couple of questions (some are general as I'm a snowbike noob):

    What is the biggest tire these fit? I'm told the 4"'ers are good all around tires and will be fine, heard that the charge can fit something bigger up front probably but it may not be needed? I'm in Green Bay, WI and do get snow but not sure I need to have one of the crazy floatation bikes. I'm also 6'4 and 210 so does the tire size make a difference more for me than an average rider?

    Second, the tires that come with the bike would be good for any summer use and maybe some people's snow use, right?

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    6'6" and 235lbs here, I ride 3.8" Nates for now and have no issues. I've rented or ridden bikes with 4.8" tires and would say they only give a benefit on wet beaches and less consolidated snow.

    The pressures that work for other people won't work for you-- run slightly higher since us big guys get more contact patch than little people at any given pressure.

    I'd also not use the vee rubber v8s. Get Nates or Knards or something a little less scary in terms if self-steer.

    Have fun!

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    I'm running Bud and Lou 4.8" on my Cooker Maxi. I shifted both silver spacers over to the drive side and ditched the FD and the larger chain ring. Got approx. 3-4mm clearance when in the largets cog on the rear.

    Don't think it would work with wider than stock rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechickencow View Post
    Couple of questions (some are general as I'm a snowbike noob):

    What is the biggest tire these fit? I'm told the 4"'ers are good all around tires and will be fine, heard that the charge can fit something bigger up front probably but it may not be needed? I'm in Green Bay, WI and do get snow but not sure I need to have one of the crazy floatation bikes. I'm also 6'4 and 210 so does the tire size make a difference more for me than an average rider?

    Second, the tires that come with the bike would be good for any summer use and maybe some people's snow use, right?
    the tires work admirably well for most any condition. dirt 8-9 psi, snow 5-7 psi, icy snow 3-4 psi. I ride quite a bit of road to get to my trails and home the the v8's roll really well. been loving the charge since buying it 5 weeks ago. needs no upgrades.

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    charge cooker maxi

    Thanks for the awesome comments guys.

    Should I demo a snow bike before buying or just jump in head first?

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    I say jump in! At any rate, that's what I did and have no regrets. I also have the Cooker Maxi and put on the Dillinger studded tyres. I have been on packed snow, loose snow, snow and ice and plain ice....it's all good. So much better than a trainer in the basement by a LONG shot.

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    I'm considering buying this bike. Anyone know if it can run a 29er wheel set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderzy View Post
    I'm considering buying this bike. Anyone know if it can run a 29er wheel set?
    It should what is the overall height of a 4.7 bud?

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    I don't think you can, the Maxi has an offset rear end. Doubtful you would be able to dish a standard 29er rim that much. The fatties you see running 29's are symmetrical.

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderzy View Post
    I'm considering buying this bike. Anyone know if it can run a 29er wheel set?

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    man i couldn't imagine ruining my charge with skinny 29er tires. talk about taking a capable vehicle and making it much less capable.......

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    Not sure where you are located but american cyclesport in castle rock co has a big sale on them. check it out.

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    Does anyone know the rear offset size of the Cooker Maxi?
    13.5mm? 21.5mm? 28mm?

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    Pretty sure 28

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    My guess is 17.5.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamJay View Post
    Does anyone know the rear offset size of the Cooker Maxi?
    13.5mm? 21.5mm? 28mm?
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    can someone confirm the rear offset? same as a pugs? 17.5?

    tried to contact charge. no luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    can someone confirm the rear offset? same as a pugs? 17.5?

    tried to contact charge. no luck

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    How would one measure that?
    It doesn't matter what I ride as long as I ride it Rubber Side Down●~●.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    How would one measure that?
    charge got back to me. same offset as a pugs. sweet!

    the brilliant bike will get a bit more brilliant with new marge lite wheels. quiver killers

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    charge got back to me. same offset as a pugs. sweet!

    the brilliant bike will get a bit more brilliant with new marge lite wheels. quiver killers

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    What is the offset just in case?
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    17.5mm. yay!

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

    Is this a new alloy maxi



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    i prefer the look of my white cooker.

    that said, whats the difference between the alloy on the black and the white which is tange, i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr pinga View Post
    Is this a new alloy maxi



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    Better tires. Nice looking bike.
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    Definitely better aesthetics IMO. Any other upgrades other than tires? 135 rear without single speed option stinks. Would look really nice with a White Bros fork.

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

    Here is a photo of the 2015 steel version

    It appears the alloy one is called Cooker Maxi 1 and steel Cooker Maxi 2
    It would be nice if they had slidding dropouts

    Note - I just found these photos when googling 2015 Charge Bikes - they are from a Japanese web site




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    The black one looks like it's got more stand over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clobber View Post
    135 rear without single speed option stinks.
    don't shift. pretty simple.

    Would look really nice with a White Bros fork.
    a heavy psuedo plastic fork would be a waste. the tange blades ride real nice, imo.

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

    Quote Originally Posted by RockyJo1 View Post
    The black one looks like it's got more stand over.
    I'm not sure if they are the same size frames

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    don't shift. pretty simple.

    I take it you don't SS???

    a heavy psuedo plastic fork would be a waste. the tange blades ride real nice, imo.

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    i have some nicks on the frame of my cooker, has anyone found a good touch up paint?

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    i have some nicks on the frame of my cooker, has anyone found a good touch up paint?
    Me too. I asked my lbs they said just use automotive touch up paint. If its starting to rust I would sand it down a bit to get rid of the rust.

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    Can one buy the black alloy model anywhere yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krzysiekmz View Post
    Can one buy the black alloy model anywhere yet?

    Chris.
    I heard late October.

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    today in maine by my house:



    love my cooker maxi

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

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    i have some nicks on the frame of my cooker, has anyone found a good touch up paint?
    Testers?

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    anyone put a lefty on the maxi?

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    Do they make 1-1/8" leftys?

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    a sissy fork would ruin the cooker maxi. chromo works perfect on the rocky techy.

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    has anyone put the bluto shocks on their maxi?

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    Bluetoe is for tapered headtube

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    You just need the wider clamps from Mendon cycle Smith. It comes with a 1 1/8" steerer.

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    Do they make 1-1/8" leftys?

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    Re: charge cooker maxi

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    You just need the wider clamps from Mendon cycle Smith. It comes with a 1 1/8" steerer.
    I'm going this route now. Sourced a lefty max 140 and will be ordering the clamps from Mendon early next month.

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    charge cooker maxi-img_1129.jpgit's been a great bike for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    charge got back to me. same offset as a pugs. sweet!

    the brilliant bike will get a bit more brilliant with new marge lite wheels. quiver killers

    rog

    Rog I recently posted something about going tubeless with my Cooker - weinmann rims not great for this - have you converted to Marge Lites and if so are they more tubeless friendly?

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    Has anyone tried to fit a 29+ wheel in their Cooker? I'm interested in the steel version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger H View Post
    Rog I recently posted something about going tubeless with my Cooker - weinmann rims not great for this - have you converted to Marge Lites and if so are they more tubeless friendly?
    Rog runs toobz with his marge lites cuz toobz work well for him. And have worked well for him for decades.

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    Rog runs toobz with his marge lites cuz toobz work well for him. And have worked well for him for decades.
    "toobz iz flawless, cuz"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderzy View Post
    I'm going this route now. Sourced a lefty max 140 and will be ordering the clamps from Mendon early next month.

    Were you able to get the shock installed? What do you think?
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    I see myself buying the maxi 1 in a month

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    I just paid for mine, picked up off eBay for 500 shipped to my door. Slightly used, but looks to have Maxxis Mammoth 120 TPI tires, and a Maxi 2 fork on it. Also is a 2016 Model.

    I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve...

    Immediately it is getting some Shimano half and half pedals, my computer if I can figure out the correct diameter of the wheels (to track mileage more than anything), Lights (niterider something up front, and Knogg something rear blinky fella) and some bottle cages off my last setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebiker View Post
    I just paid for mine, picked up off eBay for 500 shipped to my door. Slightly used, but looks to have Maxxis Mammoth 120 TPI tires, and a Maxi 2 fork on it. Also is a 2016 Model.

    I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve...

    Immediately it is getting some Shimano half and half pedals, my computer if I can figure out the correct diameter of the wheels (to track mileage more than anything), Lights (niterider something up front, and Knogg something rear blinky fella) and some bottle cages off my last setup.
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    Dave, good work, take my advice and live with it before adding things like sus forks etc - the geo on this bike is perfect, you could do a little work on bringing the weight down but IMO this can actually help when piling through rock gardens, monster truck stylee.. The steel tubing has been carefully selected for pliance, and don't forget in the snow it helps up front to go rigid to start with - if you go off trail you know what is you and what is blancmange.. Good luck with that epic bike, I love mine :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger H View Post
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    Dave, good work, take my advice and live with it before adding things like sus forks etc - the geo on this bike is perfect, you could do a little work on bringing the weight down but IMO this can actually help when piling through rock gardens, monster truck stylee..
    As pictured it is 36.6 lbs, and I think it won't get too much lighter without spending a lot of money. (I put Shimano M324's on so it is easier to casually cruise with my family-Niterider Light mount, rear Knogg Frog light and a Specialized h20 Cage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethebiker View Post
    As pictured it is 36.6 lbs, and I think it won't get too much lighter without spending a lot of money. (I put Shimano M324's on so it is easier to casually cruise with my family-Niterider Light mount, rear Knogg Frog light and a Specialized h20 Cage).

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    Nice rig - the first time I've seen it in red :-) How do you like it in the snow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger H View Post
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    Nice rig - the first time I've seen it in red :-) How do you like it in the snow?
    Sadly life caught up this week with my wife getting sick etc so I couldn't really slip out for a ride. Hopefully in the next couple of days I can for an hour or two. Oddly enough we don't have really ANY snow here in my area of Minnesota (pretty much the middle of the state) either...been a pretty tame winter.

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    Finally got out for a solo ride, and it was a BLAST. Can't wait for singletrack season!charge cooker maxi-fat-ride.jpg

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    Ordered a closeout 2015 Maxi 2. Should be here Monday!

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    RIP Maxi Cooker Broken Chainstay

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    There she is! Finally had its inaugural ride today. Surprisingly quick feeling. I'm no racer, so take that for what you will...

    I loved the cush of the tires/frame over most terrain, but sometimes the bigger rocks and roots still thumped pretty hard. I just might put a lefty on it!

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    Need to change out the Vee 8 tires on my charge cooker maxi and i'm not really up to speed on what's out there. any recommendations. its mostly used for desert trail riding in rocks and sand.

    Also what to updrade the brakes and wanted to see what other people have used and get their feedback.

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