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    Carver Carbon O'Beat rotor clearance

    so I'm having so rotor clearance issues with a 180mm Deore XT ice tech rotor with a Paul Components WHUB





    anybody else had this problem with this fork? I emailed Carver as well as the distributor here in Japan but idk whats going on... maybe I'm just doing it wrong
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    I have no problems with 160mm rotor, that may be the limit on size for this fork.
    Stopping power on 160mm with BB7 is very good.

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    hmm I read 180 elsewhere hopefully i can solve this by just buying a 160mm and being done with it haha

    nah I just looked it up the fork is supposed to take up to a 180mm rotor. I read elsewhere that with some rotors people where having clearance issues so hopefully carver just emails me back and has a solution

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    I needed to use spacers on the rotor....I have the same ones @ 180mm. Its eventually will work fine...just figure out how many spacers you need. My hub is the Hope Fatsno.


    EDIT: I just noticed its hitting the fork. I did not have that issue. Just had the caliper alignment issue.

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    well just got word that the fork isn't really set up for a true 135mm front spaced hub so with the WHUB it's going to hit no matter what

    time to demand a refund.

    thanks for the help guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by thing View Post
    well just got word that the fork isn't really set up for a true 135mm front spaced hub so with the WHUB it's going to hit no matter what

    time to demand a refund.

    thanks for the help guys
    from the carver page-
    specs

    Full carbon 3K weave
    570 grams uncut
    1-1/8" x 300mm carbon steerer
    135mm hub spacing
    Front disc offset (spacers included upon request)

    45mm fork rake
    465mm axle-to-crown
    Post mount disc caliper mount
    Clearance for 4.7 inch tires

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    I should have read that carefully when I bought the fork smh. sorry guys

    I guess I can go white brothers or lefty now

    bummer

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    I highlighted that info because it's designed to work with a 135mm front hub like the WHUB. The included spacers are to push the rotor out more when used with a rear spaced hub.

    The shape of the fork, however, only gives enough clearance for a 160mm rotor. Is a 160mm rotor not an option?

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    I could get a 160mm rotor but the fork is supposed to work with a 180mm rotor according to bikeman

    Bikeman Carver Bikes O'Beast Full Carbon Fork, fits 4.7'' tires


    somebody else told me that the whub and o'beast don't work well together because the Carver fork (although advertised as a front offset) is somewhere between rear and front offset and isn't "correctly" designed

    idk I emailed Carver I'm going to give them a chance to explain whats wrong meanwhile I'll continue searching for a Lefty Max 140

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    I run a 183mm Hope Floating rotor on a Hope Fatsno hub (on both sets of wheels). The combo on its own wasn't over far enough for the caliper so i added the supplied 5mm spacer then it was too far.

    Bought 2 x 2mm disk spacers from hope and added 1 to each front wheel and they fit in there no problems.

    The reason they say 180mm limit, is because the force applied to the fork when braking using a large rotor, nothing to do with the disk not fitting in. I could fit a 203mm very easily.

    Your issue is completely different. Your hub is pushing the rotor too far over (without the spacer) so you need to reduce the rotor mounting surface somehow.
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    yeah I know which is weird to me because isn't this fork supposed to work with hubs like the whub? at least thats what it says on bikemans website...


    in other new i just took the bike outside took some picture and pushed it up a hill then road down. I'M IN LOVE.

    yes its not done but whatever

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    ive got a carver fork with a 180mm ashima rotor on a hope fatsno hub - no probs

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    maybe its just a compatibility issue with the whub

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    Carver Carbon O'Beat rotor clearance

    I really liked the performance of my Carver carbon fork. I used it with a Salsa and a Hope Hub in conjunction with a White Brothers adapter. When I went finally put my Hadley (front disc spacing) hub into service, after removing the adapter, I had an interference issue. The Hope and Salsa were very close with the 5mm Bikeman adapter, one more than the other and I can't recall which one now. The guys at Bikeman were super great to deal with and let me return the fork.

    I am using a White Brothers fork now. It's a little heavier but I can't tell when it is on the bike. I likely don't push the WB fork to anywhere near its "limit" so it works great for me. I now use the Bikeman adapters on my Hope and Salsa wheels. Now all three wheel sets can be swapped out without adjusting the brake.

    The guys at Bikeman/Carver will take care of you.

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    Carver Carbon O'Beat rotor clearance

    All you need to do is add a 1mm spacer on the axle
    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    As tight as that looks with the front spacing hub, it should work with no spacers on a rear spaced hub.

    Maybe you can dish the wheel over and move a spacer from the right side of the hub to the left. I don't know what the axle configuration is though

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    i don't know I'm just leaning towards returning this an ordering a snowpack

    I changed the rotor for a spare and it now clears the fork but with maybe 1mm of clearance (which I'm not comfortable with)

    also the 160mm rear adapter has the xtr caliper hitting the frame... great.

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    A while back it was common practice to get a Hope Floating rotor to fit in a Fox fork, we had to file the thick white paint off the bottom post mount as the alu spider rubbed badly on the post and stripped the paint off marking the floating ano'd spider.

    If you have 1mm clearance and are happy with the rotor it will work no worries.
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    My rotor was making contact down by the top barrel nut, same setup as you, .5mm spacer on the end of the hub did the trick. I have two wheel sets, both are WHub, one is fine the other needs the spacer.

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    "also the 160mm rear adapter has the xtr caliper hitting the frame... great."

    Don't hate on me for asking, but you are using a post adapter? 180mm?

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    I just put one on my Mukluk II from the latest batch Bikeman got and I was worried how close the roter came to the fork. Maybe this latest build group has slightly wider legs compared to previous batches. Once I got it adjusted it doesn't touch, but just barely.

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    this is what Davis Carver told me

    "Thanks. For some reason, we see this occasionally with the Paul Whub.. It is perfectly OK to file the fork a bit for clearance. It won't affect the warranty. Other riders have also inserted a thin axle washer on the disc end of the hub to space it a bit farther from the fork."

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    Are you telling me a manufacturer suggested modifying their carbon fiber product?

    Seriously?
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    yes and I'm not going to willingly file away a carbon fork so...

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