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    Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    Well, just got done with a visit from a Cannondale rep tonight. Hopefully this is not repeated news.

    Cannondale will be bringing out a fatbike later this summer as a 2014 model.

    The only details he seem to know were: steel frame, ~$1400 and was coming from their UK ties (not sure what he meant exactly). He had seen a picture of it, but didn't really have anymore details (he was roadie centered more so).

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    You had me until you said it would be made out of steel.
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    Re: Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    He was probably talking about the GT...

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    Oh, forgot about Cannondale being in the group with GT, Mongoose and Schwinn. I'd bet as well that the new Cannondale fatbike would have a GT tie if it is steel.

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    A Cannondale made out of steel??!

    Must be from their French division... Mon goose.

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    I hope they introduce a few tire companies to their (future) efforts.

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    Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    Could be pretty trick, I have a sub twenty pound Cannondale half fat.

    Cannondale fatbike 2014 model-dsc_2366_007.jpg

    Not much steel besides the chain, rear axel, pedal spindles and spokes though.
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    The OP is correct, I heard the same thing from my Cannondale rep last week. It is suppose to be steel from one of the UK brands Dorel owns, I believe it was Charge Bikes. Although I hear it was going to be around $1700. Cannondale's new year starts July 1, so it won't be long.

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    More options are never a bad thing, but if they are going to the effort, why not try something new and exciting...

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    would be nice to seem some more aluminium frames

    but more makers building fat bikes is a good thing! My manager doesn't want to get into selling fat bikes so we don't put my bike on the show floor.

    maybe this will change things since we're a big cannondale dealer

    (although it could be very likely that they won't bring the fat bike to Japan)

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    I agree, it would be nice to see some good Aluminum.

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    would be nice to seem some more aluminium frames

    but more makers building fat bikes is a good thing! My manager doesn't want to get into selling fat bikes so we don't put my bike on the show floor.

    maybe this will change things since we're a big cannondale dealer

    (although it could be very likely that they won't bring the fat bike to Japan)
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    9 Zero &, Fatback and Salsa all make good aluminum frames. It's not like there arent any.
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    They make great snow bikes, I have had a Fatback for two and a half years and really like it. It is awesome! Just looking for a proper trail bike.

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    9 Zero &, Fatback and Salsa all make good aluminum frames. It's not like there arent any.
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    They've resisted making steel frames for .... what, 40 years?
    And now for a bike that is meant to spend a lot of its time in snow, they're going to make one?

    Something seems off about that. Steel's kinda in style at the moment, with the thin elegant tubes, and maybe it's a way to grab some press for Cannondale, "first steel frame we've ever made!", while not having the frame be a downgrade (i.e. heavier) from their current product line. I mean it would be hard for them to introduce a steel road frame or hardtail 29er; Cannondale's not cool enough to pull that off.

    But still, if this were a poker hand, I'd find something too fishy about this not to call the bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flucod View Post
    That's a 9:zero:7 with a paint job

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    Man, why don't they do what seems to me to be the easiest way to introduce a fat bike. they could just make a new rear triangle for one of their aluminum 29er full suspension frames, make some more of the old lefties with removable clamps, knock out some wider clamps on a CNC mill, or just bond the wider clamps to the new hybrid carbon lefties, and maybe some wider hubs like the Supermax uses, and some kind of easy to do adapter to put wide spindle cranks in a PF30 BB shell, and they would have the first full suspension fat bike, and could sell quite a few of them at a very premium price.

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    Wow, so much negativity here on news that should be good and help expand this niche segment of bikes. The info is what it is and nothing more at this point in time. These are just bicycles and different ones will have features some will like and some will not, simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtle01 View Post
    Wow, so much negativity here on news that should be good and help expand this niche segment of bikes. The info is what it is and nothing more at this point in time. These are just bicycles and different ones will have features some will like and some will not, simple.
    So, all comments on a bike forum should be confined to positive discussions about actual bike features?

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    That's a 9:zero:7 with a paint job
    ....and internal cable routing


    Is that Will's bike???

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    So do we get a lefty with that? Seems only natural.

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    Exactly!
    Would be very cool.
    More people are riding fat bikes all year as their main trail bike.


    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Man, why don't they do what seems to me to be the easiest way to introduce a fat bike. they could just make a new rear triangle for one of their aluminum 29er full suspension frames, make some more of the old lefties with removable clamps, knock out some wider clamps on a CNC mill, or just bond the wider clamps to the new hybrid carbon lefties, and maybe some wider hubs like the Supermax uses, and some kind of easy to do adapter to put wide spindle cranks in a PF30 BB shell, and they would have the first full suspension fat bike, and could sell quite a few of them at a very premium price.

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    Don't get me wrong.
    I am glad that they will be making a fat bike, no matter what it is made out of, or what name they will put on it, and I like steel frames.
    But, why would Cannondale go with a steel frame for their first fat bike?
    As far as I know, they have never put the Cannondale name on any steel frame. The aluminum frame is pretty much why Cannondale became a major player, since they were one of the very few to use them in the 80's, and early 90's, and they were known for being light and very stiff.
    For them to use a steel frame now, when it is more expensive to do so(at least for a lightweight frame), doesn't really make sense, since they never used steel when it was cheap and everyone else did use steel.

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    It would be really cool if they would make a Fatty Headshock frame and fork that was actually a Fatty.

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    That would be a Fatty-fatty headshok! I like the idea.

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    Do you mean that cannondale wont bring their bike to Japan? Or that there arent any in Japan?

    Reason I ask is that im in Japan, and have a Necro build in progress currently, and all parts from local shops in Japan.

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    I'm betting it has non Cannondale on the down tube. Dorel has a ton of banners under their umbrella, it'll be GT, Schwinn, Pacific (heck, they already did the dreaded 'Goose....).

    Do I fervently wish that the fat Lefty wheel I sent down for them to check out was for purposes beyond personal interest? Yes.

    Do I expect to see a commercial FatLefty ever? No.
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    I had considered modifying a Fatty Headshock at one point for use on my fatbike. It can be installed in any headtube over 44mm from what I have read. I would have had a fat Fatty on the front of my Fatty. I went with a Lefty Fatty instead though.

    The fat Fatty fork would have been kind of tall for it's travel though. With 80mm of travel, you end up with an AtoC of 520mm on a 29" tall tire. Waltworks has made some custom forks on headshock internals for a 29" custom bike, and he even said something about putting one on a 36er. The cool thing about using a custom unicrown fork on a headshock is that you can get whatever length and rake you want. I'm surprised Waltworks hasn't done any fatbikes yet, or if he has, they aren't on the website.

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    Cannondale doesn't have their complete mountain line up available in Japan so if the fat bike is produced under the Cannondale brand name it will be interesting to see if they release it for the Japanese market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    I had considered modifying a Fatty Headshock at one point for use on my fatbike. It can be installed in any headtube over 44mm from what I have read. I would have had a fat Fatty on the front of my Fatty. I went with a Lefty Fatty instead though.

    The fat Fatty fork would have been kind of tall for it's travel though. With 80mm of travel.
    Fat Fatty

    I have one, but still did not have the time to lace up a wheel on a 100mm front hub

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    Quote Originally Posted by saiko View Post
    Fat Fatty

    I have one, but still did not have the time to lace up a wheel on a 100mm front hub
    Did you find a headset that will take it in a smaller headtube yet?

    I know the upper part of the steerer is slightly bigger than 1.5", but the cannondale bearings are a .5mm smaller ID than a headset for a normal 1.5" fork.
    cannondale: 50.8mmx39.5mmx7mm
    1.5 bearing: 52mmx40mmx6.5mm.
    I guess the difference is that the slightly larger steerer on the cannondale doesn't use a spacer ring in the bearing.
    a normal 1.5 bearing in a ec44/40 headset would give you .5mm of extra clearance. not much, but it might move around a bit and get worse. normally 40mm(1.5") headset bearings have about .3mm clearance to the 39.7mm crown race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtle01 View Post
    Wow, so much negativity here on news that should be good and help expand this niche segment of bikes. The info is what it is and nothing more at this point in time. These are just bicycles and different ones will have features some will like and some will not, simple.
    The negativity probably stems from a desire from many on here wanting to see newer and cooler fat bikes instead of another entry level fat bike. I know that's why I'm not excited about another $1700 steel frame fat bike.

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    Re: Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    I just really hoped for a lefty equipped fatty to come from cannondale

    I guess I just don't get why they would go any other route

    People are definitely willing to pay for it

    Look how hard it is to find a beargrease today

    They have the technology, why go backwards when they could sell a beautifuly crafted alum frame with a lefty and they would fly off the shelfs

    Im still holding on to hopes of new tire options
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    Kinesis makes an Actiontec/C'dale Headshock type fork that mounts in an 1 1/8" headtube...I inquired about it but they said Sepecial-ed bought them...I assume they meant bought the design...

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    Sorry guys, it was confirmed that there is no fatty lefty to the best of the reps knowledge.

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    I read on Waltworks' blog that he was making some bikes with the actiontec and stopped because of poor reliability/durability, which is why he was trying to do something with the Headshok.

    I think the Lefty can do everything you would want from the headshock with less trouble and more travel options, as well as fitting any frame, so I didn't pursue the headshock thing very far. I would have tried just running it in the 40mm ID bearing on top, with a bottom cannondale cup and bearing(44-49.7mm tapered head tube). If that allowed too much movement at the top of the headset, I could have made an external headset cup just like the ec44/40, but a little smaller where the bearing fits to accept the cannondale 2"(50.8mm) bearing instead of the regular 52mm od bearing.

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    Re: Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    Here she is.



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    Any details?

    Offset?

    Geometry?

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    Here she is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    The negativity probably stems from a desire from many on here wanting to see newer and cooler fat bikes instead of another entry level fat bike. I know that's why I'm not excited about another $1700 steel frame fat bike.
    Yup...this....
    One more hard tail frame with a rigid fork....joy lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikewerx View Post
    Here she is.



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    Am I missing something?
    That's a Charge, not a Cannondale.

    Edit: OK, I saw the old post about Charge.

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    Re: Cannondale fatbike 2014 model

    So just a frameset.

    We need more rims and tires! We're getting there slowly but surely, I suppose.

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    BARF!

    Missed their chance.

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    I think this is just an early entry. There are Cannondale logo bikes in the works. They are 100% coming, when, that is the unknown variable. I'd gamble sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clobber View Post
    There are Cannondale logo bikes in the works.
    Got a source?

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    Too lazy to search 50 threads... Box in transit. Cannondale Fatbike.

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    here we go
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    Box was delivered to LBS today.

    Long story short - Cooker Maxi

    Looks like the Cannondale dealers are getting the Charge Cooker Maxi.

    Sorry for the anti-climax.

    U.K. brand built in Taiwan.

    The Medium without pedals came in at 35.60lbs.

    It came with cheapo Wellgo flat pedals.

    A few quick mods could make it lighter.

    Snapped a few pics... (Not ready for sale!)

    It was nice for what it was.










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    saw that at Iceman
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    everything else was MEH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
    saw that at Iceman
    I only wanted the saddle
    everything else was MEH
    I rode the cooker maxi today at a demo and had a blast. My question is i am new to fatbikes and have a specialized fatboy expert on order. Is the fat boy that much of a better bike than the cooker i could have tomorrow for $1600 or wait for the fatboy. I am fine with the wait if its that much more bike. And yeah everyone was talking about the saddle.

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    the specialized had a better parts mix " hate them or not"
    nicer tires
    carbon fork
    better rims
    I would wait
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    I like the Cooker...because steel. Decent parts for the money, and the weight is pretty reasonable too. I'm excited to ride one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richccc View Post
    I rode the cooker maxi today at a demo and had a blast. My question is i am new to fatbikes and have a specialized fatboy expert on order. Is the fat boy that much of a better bike than the cooker i could have tomorrow for $1600 or wait for the fatboy. I am fine with the wait if its that much more bike. And yeah everyone was talking about the saddle.
    ????????????

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    Buy Cooker now, ride and enjoy. When/If the Specialized comes out, ride one and see if you like it better. If so, sell the Cooker. Fatbikes have great resale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    Buy Cooker now, ride and enjoy. When/If the Specialized comes out, ride one and see if you like it better. If so, sell the Cooker. Fatbikes have great resale.
    Jason at paramount...you don't know what you are talking about. You're crazy.

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