• 05-01-2013
    Shark
    Can someone clue me in please?
    Ok, so last few months I've been riding plenty, but not on forums much due to new Jeep wrangler :)
    I get back here, and all I see is beast-this, walmart-that....ummm...:confused:

    As long as Ive been on the forums, it really didn't matter what type of bike it was, if it was any type of dept store bike, especially walmart, it was frowned-upon....common knowledge that if you even look at it wrong, it will spontaneously combust....

    What is going on?

    Really, honestly, I am asking a 100% serious question. Flame me if you like but I'm not trolling. Just quite surprised to be reading all this stuff about a walmart bike.:skep:
  • 05-01-2013
    ultraspontane
    Re: Can someone clue me in please?
    Jeep bike guy.thread
  • 05-01-2013
    ozzybmx
    Yes is getting more exposure than I expected, between it and repetitive tubeless threads on stuff covered many times already.... probably why I haven't been on here much lately :skep:

    Its a nice time of the year to just get out and ride here at the moment.....
  • 05-01-2013
    Velobike
    Summary:

    Basically WalMart have introduced a fatbike shaped object which is ideal for the bike experimenters on here.

    No-one thinks they're getting a Rolls Royce.

    No-one seems to think they didn't get value for money.

    Many of the parts are destined straight for the tip, but there's enough left to have a framework to hang more durable/lighter fatbike bits on and still have a bargain bike.

    Fatbikers in other countries are green with envy at the price.

    It has been proven in competition by the Walgoose factory rider Manuel Beastly. :)

    Summary of summary:

    It's fun.

    Bike snobs are offended (which adds to the fun).
  • 05-01-2013
    Scoobytao
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Summary of summary:

    It's fun.

    Bike snobs are offended (which adds to the fun).

    Excellent summary... of summary.
  • 05-02-2013
    ozzybmx
    Yes im spending poz rep over the last few days on the sand riding pic thread. Good stuff !!!
  • 05-02-2013
    jonshonda
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Thankfully we lost the biggest troll.

    Bikeabuser is gone!!!? I will pour a little stans on the ground for our fallen homie.
  • 05-02-2013
    Shark
    Awesome, clear as mud now. Appreciate it :)
  • 05-02-2013
    TrailMaker
    And...

    I think people are happy to see someone putting downward price pressure on the existing fat market. About as low as you can get! Yes, pun intended. OK.. so the spec of components kind of sucks. OK... so they don't pose any threat to the real fatbike companies. Actually... it might have a trickle up effect, where new low budget folks get inspired by this "emerging niche" and buy a better bike!

    Whatever. It does not bother me in the least. I like the creativity if nothing else.
  • 05-02-2013
    autodoctor911
    I thought all the talk about it would be simmering down by now, but people are apparently doing a bunch of upgrading, or at least talking about it. I still think it will die down, and become a non-topic before long. I do think it is a great thing to happen(the beast being made, and being sold at Walmart), but I am not really interested in talking about it very much. It doesn't bother me to see a few threads up there that I'm not interested in though. I just skip down to something that does, but there hasn't been a whole lot to talk about recently.
  • 05-02-2013
    vikb
    The Wallgoose is as relevant to fatbiking as Wallyworld MTBs are to mountain biking.
  • 05-02-2013
    mitmoe
    Unlike most of the critics, I actually have one...meaning I've really rode it and am not speculating from the sidelines. First off, the components suck and are boat anchors. The tires are very heavy too. Coaster brake on back...not my thing either, plus no brake up front. All that being said, I'm having a blast with it! I love to tinker and build things, which makes this a great platform for that. Even if I soak another $300 into it I'm still not into it for much money and I'm having fun. I have an additional $125 or so into mine and I really enjoy riding it. I will upgrade brakes still.

    So I feel it's just about opinion, taste, cost, ability, and most importantly fun. If you don't like it...cool. If you buy one, chances are you will like it. If you have the ability to drop lots of cash on a turn key bike and not the ability or desire to tinker around...I get it. I just hope everyone is having as much fun as I am and I wish everyone a great summer of riding whatever you got wherever you can.

    Mitch
  • 05-02-2013
    AC/BC
    Yeah i have one too. And I also own another more expensive fat bike.
    My Beast get road more. I love the simplicity of it and the fact that I can lock it up outside and go into a store or a bar. I would never leave my other fat bike unattended. I've kept it largely stock for that reason. It's actually pretty quick with the rotational-weight mods i've done. I routinely pass slow ppl on much more expensive bikes.
  • 05-02-2013
    fyrmd
    Before you support Walmart, you might want to spend a little time looking at their business practices.
  • 05-02-2013
    fos'l
    One of the funniest things (TO ME) is that Pacific Cycles is sending whole bikes as replacements for parts that break (and they don't have in stock). Can anyone please tell me why the individual was "blacklisted"; I'm new to this procedure, but maybe this will get me deleted too.
  • 05-02-2013
    SmooveP
    I personally don't get it. I understand the whole tinkering aspect, but which parts are worth keeping? They've managed to make the frame tinker-resistant, with the unique BB width, no brake mounts, weird geometry, etc. If you're gonna replace everything anyway, just buy a used Pugs frame and hang your parts bin components on it.

    I don't like Walmart and their business practices. I don't shop there for anything else, either.

    As a craftsman (woodworking), nothing about this bike appeals to me. It's disposable. The fact that the warranty support consists of sending out a complete replacement bike for even the most minor problem confirms this. It's even more disturbing than the bike itself.
  • 05-02-2013
    fos'l
    Interest in the Walbeast might be a reflection of dormancy in the bike market. I love Santa Cruz, and my family has four of them, but when a 650b me-too (IMO) bike is heralded as a significant innovation, things are dormant (IMO). I don't even have a horse in the race since I reside in socal, land of fruits, nuts, but not fatbikes, but these threads are (TO ME) the most interesting on MTBR now. Can't wait to see what Chopsmitty has in store for his.
  • 05-03-2013
    Shark
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    flavor of the week stuff ~ tubeless, lefty and beast.

    Nothing wrong with tubeless lefty :)
  • 05-03-2013
    vikb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Nothing wrong with tubeless lefty :)

    +1 - a tubeless Lefty won't be in the landfill this time next year.
  • 05-03-2013
    vikb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    think of all the years of fat bike riding these poor people have sat out on waiting for a $200 pile of poo

    I think bighit is right. These guys will be back on better bikes. They're hooked

    There are two distinct hobbies going on here - tinkering in the garage and fatbike riding. Not everyone is actually riding these bikes beyond the driveway and local MUP for a coffee.

    You don't need a Fatback to shred the MUP. ;)
  • 05-03-2013
    vikb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    but they will get tired of the MUP :lol:

    and the beast

    True - That's when the beast will end up in the landfill with the rest of the beasts and other dept store MTBs.
  • 05-04-2013
    AC/BC
    It's exactly what fat biking needed - something cheap, simple, reliable-enough, and servicable for kids.

    They likely wont have to the strength or weight to bend axles or break the coaster hub. They can grow into the bike and out of it too. Geared down a tad it should be rideable for most.







  • 05-04-2013
    SmooveP
    Oh no you don't. Posting pictures of a cute kid on that thing is not enough to overcome the facts.
  • 05-04-2013
    vikb
    Can you gear the beast low enough that a kid can pedal it's 40lbs+ bulk through sand or snow?

    Or is it just something to goof with on the MUP?
  • 05-04-2013
    OFFcourse
    Can someone put a lefty on a walgoose, run it tubeless so we can triple thread merge already!
  • 05-05-2013
    deuxdiesel
    And have Adam Craig ride it, so we can add that to the merge. We haven't seen enough "FAT BIKE AT SEA OTTER!!!" threads yet.
  • 05-05-2013
    JAGI410
    I think we need a "Turd Polishing" sub-forum for this Walmart bike crap.
  • 05-05-2013
    Shark
    Honestly, to tinker and swap cheap parts...this is no different than all the other cheap Walmart mountain bikes that everyone bashes on. Except this one is fatty so it's cool....
    Interesting is all i have to say.
  • 05-05-2013
    alphazz
    Someone needs to post a picture of their tubeless, lefty, Walmart bike.
  • 05-05-2013
    autodoctor911
    Can I please get the source for the lefty to walgoose fat beast adapters?
    I want to put a $1000 fork on a $200 bike.
  • 05-05-2013
    alphazz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Can I please get the source for the lefty to walgoose fat beast adapters?
    I want to put a $1000 fork on a $200 bike.

    Well, many have wasted the first $200, and from what I'm seeing some on here are wasting at least that much on top of the first amount, so why not another grand. Besides, my comment above was in fun. That said, many people put a lot of money into items not worthy of any additional money in all sorts of activities.
  • 05-05-2013
    Velobike
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    Can I please get the source for the lefty to walgoose fat beast adapters?
    I want to put a $1000 fork on a $200 bike.

    Ah, you're missing the point.

    You've got to make it yourself to be a true Manuel Beastly of Walgoose modification. :)
  • 05-05-2013
    alphazz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Ah, you're missing the point.

    You've got to make it yourself to be a true Manuel Beastly of Walgoose modification. :)

    Yeah, a piece of steel pipe and some hose clamps would work fine.
  • 05-05-2013
    alphazz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    It's exactly what fat biking needed - something cheap, simple, reliable-enough, and servicable for kids.

    They likely wont have to the strength or weight to bend axles or break the coaster hub. They can grow into the bike and out of it too. Geared down a tad it should be rideable for most.

    I'm sure glad my Father didn't adhere to this philosophy. I grew up liking to ride.
  • 05-05-2013
    autodoctor911
    Ok, How about some Gorilla tape and some bamboo instead.
  • 05-05-2013
    alphazz
    I went to our local Walmart the other day and my local Walmart doesn't have any fat tire bikes. I don't think they even exist.
  • 05-05-2013
    dhabartrider11
    Many fatbikers come from different cycling backgrounds, some don't at all! I have no opinion on this walmart fatbike, but if i own one i couldn't justify to my self talking about a $200 walmart bike on the Internet
  • 05-05-2013
    beachride
    I'm getting one of these POS tomorrow. This is gonna suck. I hate myself.
  • 05-06-2013
    OFFcourse
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beachride View Post
    I'm getting one of these POS tomorrow. This is gonna suck. I hate myself.

    Your being a bit hard on yourself, I'm sure someone would be happy to take over the hating you ;)
  • 05-06-2013
    Sand Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    Can someone put a lefty on a walgoose, run it tubeless so we can triple thread merge already!

    Not a lefty nor tubeless but...anyone notice the price difference between the Carver Ti PryBar and the Thomson units? Same bar but with different bends.

    Thomson Ti...$249.95

    Carver Ti...$99.95

    Mongoose effect upon the free market?
  • 05-06-2013
    MendonCycleSmith
    1 Attachment(s)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    Can someone put a lefty on a walgoose, run it tubeless so we can triple thread merge already!

    Mad 'Shop skills are us...... :yesnod:
  • 05-06-2013
    SmooveP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    Not a lefty nor tubeless but...anyone notice the price difference between the Carver Ti PryBar and the Thomson units? Same bar but with different bends.

    Thomson Ti...$249.95

    Carver Ti...$99.95

    Mongoose effect upon the free market?

    No, you're wrong. The Carver bar is 100g lighter. ;)
    Not sure what this has to do with the W***Goose, though.
    Carver's been selling their Taiwan-built Ti frames and bars at low prices for years.
    And Thomson? Dumb move in my book to dilute their brand by selling Taiwan-made stuff, especially at those prices.
  • 05-06-2013
    Shark
    1 Attachment(s)
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    New toy with old toy on the back :)



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    where's the pic of the jeep ?

  • 05-06-2013
    Shark
    1 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 796724

    Ignore?? never! Just couldn't post a pic from my smart-phone. This thing is pretty damn fun, especially after adding the winch.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    very nice. wunnered if you were going to ignore that

    put an anti-FBFO turret on the roof and you'll be ready for anything :lol:

  • 05-06-2013
    Sand Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    No, you're wrong. The Carver bar is 100g lighter. ;)
    Not sure what this has to do with the W***Goose, though.
    Carver's been selling their Taiwan-built Ti frames and bars at low prices for years.
    And Thomson? Dumb move in my book to dilute their brand by selling Taiwan-made stuff, especially at those prices.

    There have been those who are hoping that the Mongoose FatWally would apply a downward price pressure on 'better' fat bikes.

    A quick review search of the Carver Ti PryBar turned up zero negative reports. Bikeman promotes it as being stiff.

    So...chances not looking so bright?

    On the upside...a promo for Carver? Thomson...I don't understand their price structure; appears like they are pricing on their brand, a loss in my book, too bad.
  • 05-06-2013
    SmooveP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    There have been those who are hoping that the Mongoose FatWally would apply a downward price pressure on 'better' fat bikes.

    A quick review search of the Carver Ti PryBar turned up zero negative reports. Bikeman promotes it as being stiff.

    So...chances not looking so bright?

    On the upside...a promo for Carver? Thomson...I don't understand their price structure; appears like they are pricing on their brand, a loss in my book, too bad.

    I don't think many sane people are looking at that Walmart POS as a substitute for a decent fatbike. I'm not convinced fatbikes are overpriced myself. Tires and rims, maybe.

    I respect what Carver/Bikeman does. Good price, low hype and minus the cult of personality that some other brands cultivate. I'm sure their Ti bar is good. I've never broken a handlebar of any kind in 24 years of mountain biking, though.

    I've always liked Thomson's stuff. I've owned plenty of their stems and seatposts. I like the way they look and work, they're light enough, not too pricey and made in the USA. Just puzzled by their approach to the bars. I think I read that they plan to bring the manufacturing in house later on. If that's the case, why not wait until they're ready to do that?
  • 05-06-2013
    Sand Rat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    I think I read that they plan to bring the manufacturing in house later on. If that's the case, why not wait until they're ready to do that?

    If such is the case...a test to see if the market will support that move?
  • 05-06-2013
    SmooveP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    If such is the case...a test to see if the market will support that move?

    Found the article:
    Factory Tour: LH Thomson?s Massive Stem, Seatpost & Aerospace Machine Shop

    Says they plan to bring the carbon bar manufacturing in-house, but not the Ti.
  • 05-08-2013
    Shark
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    Mad 'Shop skills are us...... :yesnod:


    Wait just a second! Lefty's are cool, but nobody told me about a righty!! I want one!
  • 05-08-2013
    autodoctor911
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    Wait just a second! Lefty's are cool, but nobody told me about a righty!! I want one!

    good eye. I missed that the first time.