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    Hi everyone - Just joined the forum. I ordered a Boris the Evil Brute on Monday, and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I picked this model for the hydro discs, Shimano drivetrain, wheelset, etc. I wanted to get better components than I have on my 29er. Has anyone got one of these on the scales yet? I have a few parts left over from previous bikes (saddle, seatpost, etc) than I plan on swapping on after the initial test ride. Hope to be posting a pic tomorrow night!

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    I bought the original Boris X9. Bought Mulefuts, went tubeless, 10 speed with original cranks, carbon fork, and was just below 30 pounds. Here's the link of going tubeless-
    Using STRETCH WRAP for tubeless. Mulefut rims, Floater/Larry 3.8 tires. Pictures
    Dash Pt. State Park (Tacoma), Big Sky Montana during Snowboard Season, Duluth Mn, a couple of times of year incl. Xmas.

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    I bought a original boris. I upgraded the tires, handlebars, stem, seatpost,seat, headset,pedals,brakes, and went to a 1x drive train.

    With a carbon fork I'm 31 lbs


    With a bluto it's 34lbs


    Keep in mind, I have a gravity dropper. I have q tubes ultralight which will drop a pound coming in the mail.

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    Why q-tubes? Why not go tubeless or won't the rim support going tubeless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pack66 View Post
    Why q-tubes? Why not go tubeless or won't the rim support going tubeless?
    The rims when setup tubeless don't save much weight due to sill foam + split tube.

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    Are you running a thru axle carbon or do you have two front wheels? Or lace a new hub to stock rim?

    Tubeless definitely won't save much weight but people will argue it lowers rolling resistance as well as reducing the risk of pinch or puncture flats. I run q tubes and jumbo Jims on the stock wheels, 1x10, deore brakes and lower end race face cockpit and it weighs around 33lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankscorpio View Post
    Are you running a thru axle carbon or do you have two front wheels? Or lace a new hub to stock rim?

    Tubeless definitely won't save much weight but people will argue it lowers rolling resistance as well as reducing the risk of pinch or puncture flats. I run q tubes and jumbo Jims on the stock wheels, 1x10, deore brakes and lower end race face cockpit and it weighs around 33lbs.
    I have 2 front wheels

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    Well I finally learned my lesson in dealing with Bikesdirect. You get exactly what you pay for, there isn't any great deal to be had. These are budget bikes that are a step above department store bikes. If you are someone who leaves a bike as is or is looking for a beater or spare these are great option.

    I gave BD a try back in 09 or so and bought a 29er hardtail. I got about 150 miles out of it before the frame broke. I stayed away for a long time but when they introduced the Boris equipped with sliders and all the brazeons it was exactly what I was looking for and was priced right. It was fun to run single speed and the rack options were great for the winter time. Well I might have got 700 miles out of it before the frame broke.

    Contacted BD, sent them additional pictures they said to package it up and sent them it they would inspect it and send me something "comparable". Didn't hear anything from them after that. About 2.5-3 weeks later I had a package at my front door, one of the current Boris frames.

    Obviously no sliding drop outs, a lack of brazons, which was the sole reason i bought the bike not to mention this frame is over a pound heavier than my original. I don't agree that this is a comparable replacement. I contacted them to discuss and basically got none of those frames are available, the geometry is similar so therefore its comparable and there's nothing more that can be done and then they quit replying.

    Since there's no other option I put the bike back together and the chainline is horrible. Running a 4.0 floater in the back and big on the cassette small up front the chain is rubbing sitting on the rack. It looks ok in the bigger chainring so i'm hoping that going 1x will make it usable. Personally this frame is garbage! It's great to get away cheap for a snow bike but thats about it.

    After all that I went to my LBS and bought a Jamis Dragonslayer to fit my needs and ill give the crap out of this pos in the snow. I really feel bad for recommending BD to friends and family and hope they have better luck than i did. Lesson Learned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finny1999 View Post
    Well I finally learned my lesson in dealing with Bikesdirect. You get exactly what you pay for, there isn't any great deal to be had. These are budget bikes that are a step above department store bikes. If you are someone who leaves a bike as is or is looking for a beater or spare these are great option.

    I gave BD a try back in 09 or so and bought a 29er hardtail. I got about 150 miles out of it before the frame broke. I stayed away for a long time but when they introduced the Boris equipped with sliders and all the brazeons it was exactly what I was looking for and was priced right. It was fun to run single speed and the rack options were great for the winter time. Well I might have got 700 miles out of it before the frame broke.

    Contacted BD, sent them additional pictures they said to package it up and sent them it they would inspect it and send me something "comparable". Didn't hear anything from them after that. About 2.5-3 weeks later I had a package at my front door, one of the current Boris frames.

    Obviously no sliding drop outs, a lack of brazons, which was the sole reason i bought the bike not to mention this frame is over a pound heavier than my original. I don't agree that this is a comparable replacement. I contacted them to discuss and basically got none of those frames are available, the geometry is similar so therefore its comparable and there's nothing more that can be done and then they quit replying.

    Since there's no other option I put the bike back together and the chainline is horrible. Running a 4.0 floater in the back and big on the cassette small up front the chain is rubbing sitting on the rack. It looks ok in the bigger chainring so i'm hoping that going 1x will make it usable. Personally this frame is garbage! It's great to get away cheap for a snow bike but thats about it.

    After all that I went to my LBS and bought a Jamis Dragonslayer to fit my needs and ill give the crap out of this pos in the snow. I really feel bad for recommending BD to friends and family and hope they have better luck than i did. Lesson Learned!
    Something sounds a bit wrong with this.

    I understand about the new vs old frame, but I think the new frame you received may be damaged. I've run a 4.5 in the rear of mine with a 1x before with no issues. A on one floater would definitely clear. I

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    Quote Originally Posted by traditiionalist View Post
    Something sounds a bit wrong with this.

    I understand about the new vs old frame, but I think the new frame you received may be damaged. I've run a 4.5 in the rear of mine with a 1x before with no issues. A on one floater would definitely clear. I
    Had first gen frame, broke, got second gen frame. I too wished the sliding dropouts would have been retained however, I run floaters and there is no chain run and I run 2x10. (Clinging mud is the excepting but that's gonna happen with any bike if the mud is severe enough)
    So have to agree something isn't right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by traditiionalist View Post
    The rims when setup tubeless don't save much weight due to sill foam + split tube.
    Ah. I don't go tubeless for weight, I do it for dealing with thorns and goatheads. That and I think the ride is better.

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    Hard to get a good picture but that is the chain line I have on the rack with a 26t chainring and in the 36t on the cassette.

    I wouldn't doubt there's something wrong with it. They probably sent me something out of the reject pile.

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    I ordered a set of the 29er wheels that fit the Boris from bike island. Just now mounted with the 2.1 Nanos that come with them. Looks kinda funny after being used to the Hell Billie 4.25's. I'll post up some pics when I get a chance. No ride report though because my lower back hates me.
    Boris report....-d3474261-3993-48a0-9357-ab74ca867339.jpgBoris report....-38639685-8546-453e-98f6-9806bbf637f5.jpg
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    New goodies.

    4.5 juggernaut pro for the front, q tubes, and the selle anatomica nsx saddle. Also swapped the 27tpi nate with the 120 tpi snowshoe 4.5 in the rear.


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    Here is my new Boris the Evil Brute. This pic is right after a quick ride in the snow on Saturday afternoon. First fat bike. Enjoying it so far. Setting it up with tubeless and some other goodies tonightBoris report....-boris.jpg

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    Your SO must love having the bike by the fireplace.

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    I only wish my shop room had a fireplace too. That'd be nice.

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    Working on the bike in front of the pellet stove is really nice this time of year. I'm only getting away with working in the family room because my wife gave my furniture to one of my daughters and the ne furniture is still a few weeks from arrival.

    I had enough time to tinker a bit tonight. The stock bike was 35.6 lbs. replacing the stock saddle and seatpost with the selle Italian and carbon post from my old road bike drooped a full pound. Based on the weight of the front tube it looks like I should lose almost 2 lbs from going tubeless. I will update with more weights and pics as I progress.

    Does anyone have a trick to getting these tires on and off? I broke a plastic tire lever tonight just trying to remove the front tire. If it is going to be this hard, I'm not looking forward to the tubeless project...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevDog View Post
    Working on the bike in front of the pellet stove is really nice this time of year. I'm only getting away with working in the family room because my wife gave my furniture to one of my daughters and the ne furniture is still a few weeks from arrival.

    I had enough time to tinker a bit tonight. The stock bike was 35.6 lbs. replacing the stock saddle and seatpost with the selle Italian and carbon post from my old road bike drooped a full pound. Based on the weight of the front tube it looks like I should lose almost 2 lbs from going tubeless. I will update with more weights and pics as I progress.

    Does anyone have a trick to getting these tires on and off? I broke a plastic tire lever tonight just trying to remove the front tire. If it is going to be this hard, I'm not looking forward to the tubeless project...
    Some guys will tell you to protect the hub and use a stiff shoe more or less jump on it. I'm a light weight and it didn't work for me. What did work was leaving a couple of pounds of air in the tire and using C-clamps to break the bead. A short block of wood beneath the C-clamp will remove a larger part of the bead. I heard about carrying clamp out on the trail, and references to not being tough enough, but that was what is was like the first time with the new mulefuts. After the first break it was much easier.
    Here's the link. Breaking the seal on tubeless ready rims.
    Dash Pt. State Park (Tacoma), Big Sky Montana during Snowboard Season, Duluth Mn, a couple of times of year incl. Xmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevDog View Post
    Here is my new Boris the Evil Brute. This pic is right after a quick ride in the snow on Saturday afternoon. First fat bike. Enjoying it so far. Setting it up with tubeless and some other goodies tonightClick image for larger version. 

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    Nice! I've had buddy's with mulefats stand on there tires to get them to unseat. I've seen another guy in a shop pinch the tire in a padded vice to get it to unseat.

    Makes me want to pick up a set of those rims for my boris.

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    Yeah getting the tubeless conversion done on my night train was worth it, but it involved a ratchet strap, removing the valve cores and 160psi to get the damn beads set. It was worth it in the end. Don't even try with a hand pump.


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    Breaking the beads wasn't a problem for me. It is getting the tire on and off of the rim. They are really tight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sferguson24 View Post
    ... and 160psi to get the damn beads set. It was worth it in the end.
    If you had to use that much pressure, you're lucky you're alive. Tubeless system manufacturers normally recommend no higher than 40 psi to seat the bead. If you can't seat it at 40, somethings not right. A friend decided to ignore that and blew a fat tire off his rim at 45 psi. Bloodied up his face and arm, everybody in the shop had ringing ears, destroyed the tire. I don't want to think what 160 psi would do to a person if it went off. brings back memories of split ring tire explosions.
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    20 psi was enough to set the beads on 5 different tires.
    Dash Pt. State Park (Tacoma), Big Sky Montana during Snowboard Season, Duluth Mn, a couple of times of year incl. Xmas.

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    I needed the volume, not pressure. No clue how you would get the bead up on the shelf without the air volume. Clearly once the bead jumped up I pulled the blow gun off. Just like seating a car tire


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    I finally had time last night to do the tubeless conversion on the Evil Brute. Went surprisingly well for my first time doing tubeless. The key for me was a bottle of soapy water to lube the beads to get them on and off the rime, as well as to help them seat. the tires seated with a floor pump and held air without Stans. Added Stans and shook them up and spun them and let the bike sit overnight. No air loss overnight, and no signs of any sealant leaking out form anywhere. Success!

    Final weight after conversion was 33 lbs. I weighed the tubes by themselves - they were 2.3lbs for the pair!

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    And here is a pic of the completed bike! I changed out the red rimstrips for black.Boris report....-boris2.jpg

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    Slx 11 speed derailleur,cassette, shifter and chain is on the way for my boris

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    Another ride on the boris

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    Anyone running a 1x11?

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    Slx 11 speed drive train installed


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    very nice. Is that slx for all parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wreckster View Post
    very nice. Is that slx for all parts?
    Slx everything. Only cost me $146.60. One of the best upgrades I have done. I went with the 11-42 cassette.

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    I put the fat tires back on my Boris and went out exploring with some friends yesterday. I felt confident with the bike all day (not so confident with my fitness ). I even did some serious bombing down some rocky, rooty and rutted downhills and never worried about anything.

    Sunny skies and warm temps are not common in Kentucky and we felt lucky to have it. It was a great day overall but my favorite part was finding the old abandoned homestead in the middle of nowhere. Looks like a lot of life happened there.

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    It's all good!

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    Anyone running the Surly Nate 26x3.8 on the rear wheels of the Boris X5?

    Just put the Bud in front and a great difference vs the Snowshoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rejtheedge View Post
    Anyone running the Surly Nate 26x3.8 on the rear wheels of the Boris X5?

    Just put the Bud in front and a great difference vs the Snowshoe.
    I was, I have some faster rolling tires on now


    But I have it currently with a 4.5 Kenda juggernaut pro in the front, and a 4.5 snowshoe in the rear. I just have enough clearance in the rear so I don't have chain rub with a 1x11.

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    My friend and I had a snow day today from school, and decided on riding. He's on a medium boris (left) I'm on my boris on the right. Did 10 miles into town.



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    Something that's interesting, is my stock 2015 large boris weighs less than my friends new 2016 medium boris. Mine was 36lbs stock, his was 38lbs stock. He swapped to 120tpi floaters and removed the black rim strip to save some weight.

    I added 2 bottomless tokens to the bluto, as I was bottoming out on large jumps/drops. The components are being swapped onto a carbon speed full suspension frame soon.

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    I did a several stream crossings a few weekends ago and set aside time to rebuild the hubs and the bottom bracket yesterday. I have read that some folks have had issues with the bottom bracket wearing out quickly. The minute I pulled the bearings, water poured out of the bottom bracket so I did not have high hopes. The plastic sleeve was covered in muck, as well. I was very surprised that the bearings were still very smooth and did not have any play in them so I just cleaned everything up and put it all back together.

    The hubs are still fine. I pulled the seals off and did not see any visible signs of contamination under them. The axles still spin freely and did not have a "gritchy" feeling. I ended up leaving them alone. I am not looking forward to the day they need rebuilding because the metal pressed in bearing cover is not going to be fun to deal with.

    I did end up rebuilding the headset. I suggest everyone do this fairly regularly. The seals on the lower cup did nothing to keep out nastiness.
    It's all good!

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    hi guys!!
    i just ordered the boris sprung ltd in purple. looks awesome!!
    however...i checked the fedex shipping weight. it says 30 lbs. is that right or am i getting half a bike or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyPunK View Post
    hi guys!!
    i just ordered the boris sprung ltd in purple. looks awesome!!
    however...i checked the fedex shipping weight. it says 30 lbs. is that right or am i getting half a bike or something?
    Mine said that. I think BD must have negotiated a flat rate or something.
    It's all good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beicster View Post
    Mine said that. I think BD must have negotiated a flat rate or something.
    Yup. Called today. It's a flat rate on the size of the box. The weight is arbitrary. If it was a road bike I probably would have asked of they sold me a bike and a half! Lol

    Anyway it's in MO right now on its way to WI. Can't wait!!

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    my new mistress Heather
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