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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    so today i installed a new handlebar and grips, and re routed the cables so they are on the proper sides. got it all back together, and now i have some bad creaking coming from the front tire. it definitely sound like the spokes, as it is almost like a raking sound, as if something was sticking in them (like a kid with a baseball card). also, it is only happening when the wheel/bike is turned to the right. any thoughts on what it might be? mayb e i should grease the skewer a little bit? it is not the brake, there is no noise when i am not on it. also, it isnt in the pedals as the noise occurs whether pedaling or not.

    thanks in advance!

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    Nice handlebars! Where did you get them? What width?

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    closeout at nashbar, they are 710mm witha 1 inch rise. surprised at just how much of a difference such small dimensions make! coupled with the 40mm hussefelt stem it all makes a much nicer just slightly more upright riding position.

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    The fork is steel and bends.. Maybe it bends enough for the pads to rub?

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    Boris x7

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    somehow my Boris large is lighter than the others reported? it came in at a little over 33 lbs . this is one of the first ones they sent and it did not come with pedals so the weight does not include pedals, bottle cages etc but does include everything else. I have 6 other bikes and the park tool scale is accurate on everything....weird.

    I bought it primarily for trips to the beach...hated it at 5-6lbs (way too spongy), feels great at 12ish on packed sand. I love this bike! I have put on a specialized avatar saddle, ergon cork grips and everything else is stock. I will convert to 1 x10 in the future.....I am sure the sand will wear everything out fast. the removable chain is great


    anyone know what bottom bracket this takes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Noise is the brake rotor rubbing.

    At least mine was!

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    I reset the brake pad and it was a no fix, but....it was the brake rotor! I didn't have the wheel on draught in the dropouts apparently. I noticed the rotor was rubbing on one of the bolts that held the brake housing to the fork. Reseated the housing and problem fixed!

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    I reset the brake pad and it was a no fix, but....it was the brake rotor! I didn't have the wheel on draught in the dropouts apparently. I noticed the rotor was rubbing on one of the bolts that held the brake housing to the fork. Reseated the housing and problem fixed!
    The bolts for my front brake bracket were to long. I noticed before installing the wheel and ended up installing a couple of thicker washers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    The bolts for my front brake bracket were to long. I noticed before installing the wheel and ended up installing a couple of thicker washers.
    That is exactly what it was - they both stick out about a millimeter, maybe 1.5 - I'll have to stick a couple washers on as well, that'll make a better permanent solution.

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    So a Boris will take a Bluto?

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    Often times the skewer needs to be tightened up.


    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    so today i installed a new handlebar and grips, and re routed the cables so they are on the proper sides. got it all back together, and now i have some bad creaking coming from the front tire. it definitely sound like the spokes, as it is almost like a raking sound, as if something was sticking in them (like a kid with a baseball card). also, it is only happening when the wheel/bike is turned to the right. any thoughts on what it might be? mayb e i should grease the skewer a little bit? it is not the brake, there is no noise when i am not on it. also, it isnt in the pedals as the noise occurs whether pedaling or not.

    thanks in advance!

    oh, here is the almost finished upgrades!

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    I did my first long ride today (17.3 miles) over dry conditions, lots of rocks and roots, I started the day at 15 psi but it was way to harsh, decided to drop it to 10psi and it made a huge difference, probably could of let more out but decided not to. This bike is way to heavy to think about a 1x10 set up IMO that granny gear comes in handy during long steep climbs.

    I personally think this bike would benefit greatly with a suspension fork, Some of the sections I run rather fast on with my 29er I had to slow it down due to how much I was bouncing around and I did not want to fly off the trail. It was a really good work out and im sure it will only make me faster the next time I ride the Camber.
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    Added one of these yesterday made locally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody01 View Post
    So a Boris will take a Bluto?
    It should with this external bearing for tapered Bluto.

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    I think Inset 7 should work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post

    I personally think this bike would benefit greatly with a suspension fork, Some of the sections I run rather fast on with my 29er I had to slow it down due to how much I was bouncing around and I did not want to fly off the trail. It was a really good work out and im sure it will only make me faster the next time I ride the Camber.
    Well, it is still rigid, for sure. My other bike is a rigid 29er and the Boris is a couch in comparison. Going downhill of course. Up - it makes it up more, but not faster. Fun and function over speed.

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    Boris report....

    Swapped the Atlas bars for Mary bars. The Atlas bars had my hands going numb. We'll see how the Mary bars do. Cleaned, regreased, and adjusted the front hub. Whatever was used to grease the hubs felt like it had grit in it.

    At 12psi I don't have the super soft cushion (still soft though)on the trail, but the self steer is almost gone on pavement and pretty much nonexistent on the trail. I'm eventually going to swap the Vee8s for Floaters, I think. They don't hook up very well in the soft stuff. My last ride had the rear lose grip at some inopportune times.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pxpaulx View Post
    That is exactly what it was - they both stick out about a millimeter, maybe 1.5 - I'll have to stick a couple washers on as well, that'll make a better permanent solution.
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
    The bolts that hold the brake itself to the fork.

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by sml-2727 View Post
    I had that annoying rub all ride long, which bolts need more washers? The ones holding the caliber or the actual bracket?
    The bracket.

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    Has anyone installed 4.7" tires on their Boris?

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    Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by radnur22 View Post
    It should with this external bearing for tapered Bluto.

    Crane Creek bottom assembly

    I think Inset 7 should work.

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    I've been looking at that same setup. Might have to chase the head tube a bit as I think those cups sit in a little deeper.

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    I forgot to mention I got a lot of complements on the bike, One guy even asked if he could sit on it and ride it, I was like sure. Then I told him the price and he was blown away. He said for that price you could throw another 600 bucks into and have a really great bike that still cost less than other fatbikes on the market, I said sure, or you could be cheap like me and leave it alone and just have fun with it....lol
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    I had the top of the pad rubbing the disc, so I dremeled off the paint off the fork under the caliper bracket and that made it a little better. I dunno if it's the caliper or the fork. I'm probably going to put some hydraulics on it. What's a good budget hydraulic setup? I don't want to do xts or anything, just something functional. I was looking at the various shimanos and dracos. I'd rather go with a mineral oil setup, but there are so many models of shimano.. I have a set of bb7s but they need pads, maybe I'll just do that for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I had the top of the pad rubbing the disc, so I dremeled off the paint off the fork under the caliper bracket and that made it a little better. I dunno if it's the caliper or the fork. I'm probably going to put some hydraulics on it. What's a good budget hydraulic setup? I don't want to do xts or anything, just something functional. I was looking at the various shimanos and dracos. I'd rather go with a mineral oil setup, but there are so many models of shimano.. I have a set of bb7s but they need pads, maybe I'll just do that for now.

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    I've been using shimano m486 hydros on my main bike for a few years. They're hydros, they work, i've had no major problems with them. The shimano pads and rotors aren't great, can't use metallic pads. I swapped to avid rotors, world of a difference. They tend to misalign easy when removing and reinstalling wheels. I use bb7s on another bike, and they simply can't be beat for the price. Way easier to adjust and deal with. I would take bb7s over budget hydros any day.
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    Yeah I was looking at the m446 for 85 bucks. I love the bb7s, they are the best brakes I've ever used but I figured the hydraulics would have more stopping power and I was curious about them anyways.

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    Shimano 615s can be had for less than $100 per set on ebay. I'm running 596s on the Boris and 615s on my Krampus. Both were had for less than I would have paid for bb7s with levers. I picked up the 596s at Chain Reaction. Invest in a decent bleed kit for the Shimanos.
    I prefer my hydros over bb7s for personal reasons like adjustment and feel. I was always busy fiddling with the bb7s.

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    I have Avid DB3 on one bike and Shimano 615 on two others - the 615 are way better and only a few $$ more. I have a set of SLX M675 to go on my new build - not sure if they are better than the 615, but the cooling fins of the brake pads look sweet. The Deore 615 and SLX M675 look very close to the same brake. I do not have a scale but they are very close to the same weight.

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    Hi all,

    Has anyone gotten a back rack to fit on their x7? A normal, non-disc brake topeak rack supposedly fits on my fb4, but my husband just got his x7 yesterday, and it looks as if the only rack that will fit is one specifically made to accommodate disc brakes. Anyone tried yet? Since we have to order online, it makes it difficult. Or maybe a 29er rack would even be better? Thanks!

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    Re: Boris report....

    Quote Originally Posted by Destr0 View Post
    I have Avid DB3 on one bike and Shimano 615 on two others - the 615 are way better and only a few $$ more. I have a set of SLX M675 to go on my new build - not sure if they are better than the 615, but the cooling fins of the brake pads look sweet. The Deore 615 and SLX M675 look very close to the same brake. I do not have a scale but they are very close to the same weight.
    You can run the ice tech pads in tge 615s, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Re: Boris report....


    Mary bars are a mega improvement. Swapped out the stock seat for a Wtb Volt and reversed the rear tire tread. I'm getting more straight line traction, but it still washes out in curves and riding parallel on hills.

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    Thanks for all the pics and updates everybody. I am seriously considering selling my sweet steel HT to get a fatbike. I'm undecided between Boris and Lurch. Both look awesome, and I don't think either choice would be a bad one.

    Has anyone seen the X7 in "ocean blue" yet? I'd really like a blue one, but the X5 in my hands will end up getting money thrown at it. X7 is closer to where I want it out of the gate... Love to see a pic of the blue X7 if anyone has one?

    Still summer, but we just got 12cm of snow and more on the way tonight... How many ways do I need to justify a fat bike? Lol.

    Cheers all!

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    I have the x5 and love it.. Bars and stem I'd change on pretty much any bike, a 32t chainring that I had laying around, and some tires more geared towards dirt and snow. The missions, I've read a lot of reviews, and they say eh pretty much. The tread isn't deep enough for me. Brakes, I have a set of bb5s I refuse to put on anything they were pretty terrible so I'm gonna do bb7s or hydros. If they made the x9 in pearl white I may have gone that road, but the marginal upgrades of the x7 don't do it for me because I'd do every change differently anyways. Plus the Pearl white looks awesome.

    Basically if I spent the extra 100, I'd replace the tires, brakes, and the only thing I'd have is an extra gear in the back. But yeah, it depends on what your plans are. The best value is going to be what's best for you, but i wouldn't discount the x5, it's as solid of a setup as the x7 in lot ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsukuni View Post

    Still summer, but we just got 12cm of snow and more on the way tonight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris sky View Post
    You can run the ice tech pads in tge 615s, if I'm not mistaken.
    Yes you can - I got the SLX thinking they were "better" but they are almost the same (and the same can be said for the SLX vs the XT).The 615 have never left me feeling I need more power. The only big difference is the pads are held in by a cotter pin instead of a screw. Lots of older brakes ran that way without issue. I suppose I could probably tap the hole. LOL.

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    My Boris arrived yesterday morning and my husband (a self proclaimed recovering perfectionist and lifetime cyclist) spent 6 hours carefully disassembling and rebuilding Boris ... This is his "Boris Report" based on his build experience ...

    WHEELS
    The wheel bearings in both hubs required adjustment (a slight loosening) to feel relatively smooth. The rubber grease seal on the rear hub, the non-drive side, needed to be fully seated. The rims on both wheels will need to be trued, with the rear being significantly out of round (ovalized) by 5mm, the front about 3mm. Also, the lock ring on the cassette was only partially tightened (I noticed this in the process of removing the spoke protector behind the cassette) and the rear QR skewer slightly bent (it scrapes inside the axle tube when being inserted -- it'll be replaced in the near future). We're running 7psi front and 10psi rear as a starting point.

    DERAILLEURS
    Both derailleurs required adjustment, the front to align/position it relative to the chainrings and set the limit screws to avoid chain rub in the 22-34 and 36-11 ring/cog combinations. The limit screws on the rear derailleur were also incorrectly set, potentially allowing a shift past the 34 and 11 cogs on the cassette. Both derailleur cables were rerouted to arc to the outside of the headset as they approach the trigger shifters. All cables were re-secured with 4-inch zip ties replacing the snap-on/off clips that come with the bike and all cable ends were trimmed (e.g., the front derailleur cable end ticked against the right crank arm) and re-capped using shrink-wrap tubing. Shifting is excellent.

    BRAKES
    The rear brake was shimmed with stainless washers between the chainstay brake mount and the brake adapter, allowing enough free play for proper pad/disc alignment. Given that only the outer pad of the Tektro Novelas moves, the brakes were aligned such that the rotor was just barely away from the inside, non-moving pad. This contradicts Tektro's alignment instructions, which if followed, forces the rotor to constantly flex under braking as it passes through the caliper. Brake performance after adjustment and bedding-in is reasonable for mechanical discs on a heavy bike.

    MISCELLANEOUS
    One of the pedals required a bearing adjustment to be able to rotate freely. Don't overlook the crankarm pedal washers (in a separate small bag) when installing the pedals. Also don't assume the headset is properly adjusted before tightening the stem in place -- ours wasn't. The bottom bracket has a fair bit of stiction in the bearings (not adjustable). Finally, the seatpost collar/clamp is a bit wimpy -- allowing the seat to rotate after tightening -- and clumsy to use; it's already been replaced with a non-lever collar from Deity.

    OTHER OBSERVATIONS
    The frame design and build is impressive, although there is one pinhole (rust opportunity) in a dropout weld. The paint (and branding) looks good, although the paint chipped easily when the rear brake was shimmed and the aftermarket seatpost collar was installed. Note that there is no protection on the right chainstay; a Lizard Skins "Jumbo 29er" Chainstay Guard worked nicely.

    I would have preferred a seatpost without a seat clamp offset to the rear, given the small (15") frame size with a long-ish front-center. More importantly, the bike was delivered with 175mm crankarms; in my opinion a bike of this size should come with 170mm crankarms. A 170mm X5 crankset thus becomes the first upgrade.

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    I had a lot of the issues you guys did, minus the cranks being stiff and the wheel hub. I think a lot of that is to be expected from a shipped bicycle. Having to tune it, adjust the headset, things like that are pretty normal to see. They can't sit there and tune the bikes and everything just to disassemble and ship them out, so that's just part of the assembly. I tightened the spokes some and took it for a ride and got rid of the oval, and then trued the wobbles the best I could. I'm not very good at wheels I usually bring them to my dad for that, but I'm getting better.

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    That's what hubby said too... How we get them is probably how bikes shipped from overseas come into an LBS ...
    Wheels are off to Sugar Wheel Works to get trued ... Hubby trues our road and mt bike wheels when they need it, but he wanted Sugar to do these.

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    The cranks should spin free though, drag isn't good. I would contact bd about that.

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    LOL... Just outside Calgary. We'll be back to mid 20's Celsius by next week - freak snowstorm - but it's a reminder of what's coming...

    You make a good point on the X5. I'll probably be switching to hydraulic brakes regardless... Maybe I need to do more number crunching. That cobalt frame is sweet IMHO.

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    Re: Boris report....



    Went for a ride today.. Climbing rooted sandy areas is so much easier, but downhill bumpy areas are pretty tough. I haven't ridden a rigid bike in forever and this season I built an fs no less.. But it was still fun and I'll be back there tomorrow

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    Update-BD did well and offered reasonable credit for the bent forks. ( they did not have any in stock to send) I ordered a salsa enabler to replace which will be here tomorrow. The stock fork weighs 3.2 lbs so I figure about 2/3 of a lb weight savings right there.

    BB7s are excellent, one of the main reasons I went for the x9. Added 8 oz of slime to each tire w/surly light tubes. Waiting on a 70mm stem and this thing is ready for anything! Grease up your headset bearings-especially after 3 mos or so as they come a bit lite there. Bottom does not seal all that well either so something to keep an eye on.

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    Sorry I don't weigh it, ( or ride it ) without wheels or pedals. The wheels and tires are naturally heavy. The fork is too, for a rigid. 3.2 lbs. The frame,bars,stem are average. Seat is on the heavy side, but I swapped that out. I added a lb with the slime, but saved about the same with the fork/ stem/seat.

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    Just finished the split tire method tubeless.. Used 3.5' sill foam cut to fit the gap below the bead edges. wrapped twice. Split a q-tube 26 x 2.1-2.4 and placed over foam and rim strip. The foam is the secret...
    Aired up fine with a floor pump. Bounced them around a few times , took out air and added Stan's. Re-inflated and they are great.
    Will ride em around the neighborhood a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzfvet View Post
    Update-BD did well and offered reasonable credit for the bent forks. ( they did not have any in stock to send) I ordered a salsa enabler to replace which will be here tomorrow. The stock fork weighs 3.2 lbs so I figure about 2/3 of a lb weight savings right there.
    How bad was your bent fork(s)? I'm settling an issue with Bikes Direct over a dented fork during shipment.
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    Has anyone ordered the x9 in silver? Any pictures?

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    What rear racks are people using or planning to use on their Boris's?

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    If I use one it will be a seat post mounted one so I can remove it easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by brassos View Post
    Just finished the split tire method tubeless.. Used 3.5' sill foam cut to fit the gap below the bead edges. wrapped twice. Split a q-tube 26 x 2.1-2.4 and placed over foam and rim strip. The foam is the secret...
    Aired up fine with a floor pump. Bounced them around a few times , took out air and added Stan's. Re-inflated and they are great.
    Will ride em around the neighborhood a bit.
    Without the foam, it takes forever with an air compressor to seat the tires. Here is my attempt.

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    I would run tubeless but i want to be able to change tires

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I would run tubeless but i want to be able to change tires

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    Changing tires was easy. I have about 1/2 " of cut tube over each rim side. Drop air, pop off tire and replace.
    How do I know? I accidentally put the front tire on backwards. Took it off flipped it and floor pumped it back up.
    The excess tube stays tight against the sidewall. Looks like part of the tire.

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    Are Boris front hubs, front disc spaced or rear disc spaced?

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