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    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    In the brake forum you'll find a mile lot thread about the Avid Turkey warble and peoples solutions. Mine was organic pads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Finally got mine on Friday night.

    Took it out for 35 mile quckie. Pretty awesome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
    I just ordered one with the new Guides, and I have already tried them on a different bike and they were a huge step up from normal XX brakes. Very Shimanoesque.

    I got mine with 2 Bud's though, so I'm gonna pay a small penalty on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
    Great looking bike, Irishpitbull! were you at Maybury today (Sunday?) I saw a Borealis rolling through the parking lot when I was loading up after my ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnyquist View Post
    Great looking bike, Irishpitbull! were you at Maybury today (Sunday?) I saw a Borealis rolling through the parking lot when I was loading up after my ride.
    Yeah that was me. Finished up 3 laps. 1st 2 were good the 3rd was muddy.

    The wheels are HED Big Deal. Unbelievably light.
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    Giving thanks for a new fat bike on this fine Thanksgiving day.

    Mine is the Echo. 28lbs with pedals, cages, and 4oz sealant in each Bud.


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    Beautiful bike, safe to say that's about as light as you're going to see with a Bluto and HED wheelset running the big tires.

    What does the Yampa weigh w Nexties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankD View Post
    Issues? Do two broken frames count as an issue?
    I'd be curious to know how you managed to break two frames? Where were the breaks? How much do you weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyB View Post
    Beautiful bike, safe to say that's about as light as you're going to see with a Bluto and HED wheelset running the big tires.

    What does the Yampa weigh w Nexties?

    I did have the steel axle installed in the rear hub, versus the aluminum one, and had wheels built with brass nipps, so it would have been in the 27.??? range but was happy to give that weight up in exahcange for the extra durability.

    The Yampa with the Nexties weighs 26.2lbs with cages, pedals, sealant, and two small lights mounted on it.....and some dirt.

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    On my Yampa the front through axle is a real fight to get in and out with the stock hub and wheel set.
    Anybody else have to struggle with the through axle?
    I pull the front wheel off when I take my bike to the trails.
    It is the only way to get the bike in my VW Jetta GLI.

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    If it's like mine was it probably is the tube that separates the bearings in the hub, when you pull out the axle the tube falls down, this makes it difficult to insert the axle due to hitting the tube, next time you remove the axle look thru the hub and you will see... Essentially the bearings are pressed in the hub and then hold the tube in place. What I did was had the bike shop align the tube correctly and then re-press the bearings into place, it has held pretty good but my guess it's going to fail again.. Very poor design in my opinion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by co_biker View Post
    If it's like mine was it probably is the tube that separates the bearings in the hub, when you pull out the axle the tube falls down, this makes it difficult to insert the axle due to hitting the tube, next time you remove the axle look thru the hub and you will see... Essentially the bearings are pressed in the hub and then hold the tube in place. What I did was had the bike shop align the tube correctly and then re-press the bearings into place, it has held pretty good but my guess it's going to fail again.. Very poor design in my opinion..
    Thanks for the reply. My first bike with a through axle.
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    I have the same problem with my front hub, Borealis told me it happens some times and to take it by my shop and have what co_biker describes done. Yes not a great design, my Hope hubs have been flawless.
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    I found the through axle hard to get in and out as you describe, but I found there was a little o ring on the inside that was the problem. Took it out and is fine now. Still havnt worked out what it was for. Thought maybe to keep water out? But I havnt had any issues. You can put lube on the axle so it slides through the o ring but it's a pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidsfromoz View Post
    I found the through axle hard to get in and out as you describe, but I found there was a little o ring on the inside that was the problem. Took it out and is fine now. Still havnt worked out what it was for. Thought maybe to keep water out? But I havnt had any issues. You can put lube on the axle so it slides through the o ring but it's a pain.
    That O-ring might be from the end caps on the hub. I have the same issue with my front hub, those little tubes are a PITA. I'm not sure I understand the pressed in bearing fix but will take a closer look next time my wheel is off.

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    amazing bike

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    Sv: Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    So finaly I've built up my Echo. Very pleased with this bike. I'm missing a few sticker-details, but are having it made. Not the best presentation pic, but for shure in its right environment.



    Spec:
    - Medium Echo frame
    - Bluto RCT3 built to 120mm
    - Borealis hubs with nextie Wilddragon rims and db(2-1.7-2) spokes
    - Snowshoe XL or Bud/Lou
    - X0 trail WC brakes
    - 180mm ubercompoents discs
    - X01 gears
    - Reverb Stealth with Fabric scoop saddle
    - Turbine stem and next bars with Lizard skins grips
    - next sl cranks
    - Hope purple goodies

    All with XT pedals and tubeless weigh in at 13.1 kg (28.8lbs).

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    Great week of diverse riding

    Riding Spec X01. Have BD/I 9 wheel set on order
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    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    Pic is with my old stem and bars but here is the current spec:
    -Large Echo Frame
    -Bluto Fork 100mm travel
    -Cane Creek 11 headset
    -Thomson -10 degree 80mm X4stem
    -Thomson XC 730mm flat carbon bar with ESI Chunky grips
    -Thomson Masterpiece seatpost
    -Cobb Cycling SHC DRT Saddle
    -Race Face Next SL Crnak 32tooth ring 175 arms and Race Face BB
    -Avid XX1 Brakes 180 rotor front /160 rotor rear
    -XX1 trigger shifter, rear derailleur, and 11-42 cassette
    -Nextie-Bike Jungle FOx rims laced to Industry Nine Classic Fat Hubs
    -Knard 29x3 120 tpi tires tubeless
    -Time ATAC carbon pedals.

    LOVE this ride!
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    Looking to do the same to replace my Gnarvester; What weight is that thing coming in at?
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    24.66 pounds with the current setup and an arundel sport cage mounted.

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    Got this about a month ago. XX1 build except the crank (RF turbine). Set up tubeless with Marge Lites and 120 tpi Hudus. XTR pedals, Elite polycarbonate cage, Fizik Antares VS. 24.5 lbs. Rolls like it's on butter.
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    Anyone have weights on the Turnagain FR80 rims laced to the Borealis hubs/ original/ stock wheelset? I skimmed through here and didn't see anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Anyone have weights on the Turnagain FR80 rims laced to the Borealis hubs/ original/ stock wheelset? I skimmed through here and didn't see anything
    Roughly 3000 grams. Hubs are 560 gm, rims are 1800, spokes are probably 450.

    I saved roughly a pound by going with Marge Lites. Will be having the wheels rebuilt using Sapim CX-Ray spokes to save close to a half pound.

    Rotational weight and a new perfect build are my motivation!

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    1x10, 30t narrow wide, 11-40 one up Shimano Xt. Nextie 65mm rims with Snowshoes set up tubeless.


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    Twice the fun!!!

    Echo on right is about a week old, one on left is about 2 months old. But the 6 pack was brand new that day Borealis Picture and Specs Thread-20150124_133526-large-.jpg(yesterday), unfortunately, it didn't survive.

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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


    There are two types of mountain bikers. Those who are faster than me, and me.
    Both of the Echo's you see in the pic posted above have 170 spindles and the clearance is plenty, but if the gentleman who said he'd try to get you a pic at work today is unable to do so I will see what I can do if it will help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot View Post
    I'll try and get you a shot at work
    As always, Dave: You = the man.

    (silly litesepeedaddict called you a "gentleman"- lulz)
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    ^Awesome- thanks litespeed!
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    Y'all beat me to it 😃
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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I did have the steel axle installed in the rear hub, versus the aluminum one, and had wheels built with brass nipps, so it would have been in the 27.??? range but was happy to give that weight up in exahcange for the extra durability.

    The Yampa with the Nexties weighs 26.2lbs with cages, pedals, sealant, and two small lights mounted on it.....and some dirt.
    First time flipping through here in a while. I was actually the one who built your wheels and I remember them specifically because a steel axle and brass nipples on HED rims sounds like something I would do as I am still having a tough time letting some of my curmudgeon like tendencies go. Bike looks awesome by the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chriskmurray View Post
    First time flipping through here in a while. I was actually the one who built your wheels and I remember them specifically because a steel axle and brass nipples on HED rims sounds like something I would do as I am still having a tough time letting some of my curmudgeon like tendencies go. Bike looks awesome by the way!

    Very cool, thanks for dropping by and introducing yourself. The bike is awesome, I wouldn't change a thing. It also inspired a few more Borealis purchases in town after everyone saw this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Very cool, thanks for dropping by and introducing yourself. The bike is awesome, I wouldn't change a thing. It also inspired a few more Borealis purchases in town after everyone saw this one.
    For sure, I always love seeing where my wheels end up!

    Glad you are enjoying the bike so much, bias aside, these bikes are incredibly fun and addictive!

    Might as well add to the thread while at it.

    This is my Echo with the new 100mm Turnagain tubeless rims.

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    Need more stopping power, already run a 200 rotor in the front, thinking about going 180 the back, looks like it could be tight fit adding an adapter. Anyone try this yet? Large frame BTW.
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    Out for a ride on the local snomo trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Need more stopping power, already run a 200 rotor in the front, thinking about going 180 the back, looks like it could be tight fit adding an adapter. Anyone try this yet? Large frame BTW.
    Fits with ease, both Yampa and Echo large frame.

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    Ups just delivered my yampa

    The hed are not holding air

    I'm hoping the tubes are damaged and nothing else

    Really excited to get her dialed in and ride

    Lbs opens at 10 and I'll be waiting
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    The tires are on tubed and not holding air? Sounds like a tube problem and not a rim issue.

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    I am hoping it the tubes

    Im hoping the LBS has time to help me go tubeless tomorrow so i can ride with my buddy in the afternoon

    it weighs just under 25 (luggage scale) which is mind blowing

    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    The tires are on tubed and not holding air? Sounds like a tube problem and not a rim issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    I am hoping it the tubes

    Im hoping the LBS has time to help me go tubeless tomorrow so i can ride with my buddy in the afternoon

    it weighs just under 25 (luggage scale) which is mind blowing
    Come on man, certainly you know how to fix a flat!? Tubeless can wait for another day, get out there and ride.

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    Yes of course I can change a flat!

    But I don't have a torque wrench (yet)

    Did some excellent riding and she rides strong
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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    Ups just delivered my yampa

    The hed are not holding air

    I'm hoping the tubes are damaged and nothing else

    Really excited to get her dialed in and ride

    Lbs opens at 10 and I'll be waiting
    Wait.. you got a bike with HED rims??

    I ordered (and paid for!) my Echo with HED rims back in January, but the HEDs were back ordered. The gave me a great deal on a set of Turnagains, so I could ride, but so far, nothing on the HEDs. That I paid for. If they're shipping them, I'm a bit torqued that they haven't shipped mine out yet.

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    I picked mine up in the secondary market

    Is anyone else having trouble with their front release? My handles spins right off

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    I pm you

    I picked mine up in the secondary market

    Is anyone else having trouble with their front release? My handles spins right off
    Ah, OK.

    Not torqued, then. Just impatient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Wait.. you got a bike with HED rims??

    I ordered (and paid for!) my Echo with HED rims back in January, but the HEDs were back ordered. The gave me a great deal on a set of Turnagains, so I could ride, but so far, nothing on the HEDs. That I paid for. If they're shipping them, I'm a bit torqued that they haven't shipped mine out yet.
    My HED's have been on order since December the 10th when I bought my Yampa. Borealis sold me a set of Turnagains pretty cheap...but they are POS. I pulled the rims off the hubs and replaced them with a set of Stans Hugos.

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    I'm sorry to hear that, I hope your carbon hoops arrive soon


    I don't see that package on the website anymore

    I can say it's worth the wait

    Nice and light rotational weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post


    I don't see that package on the website anymore

    Yeah, the funny part is, I bought the bike, actually 2 Yampas…from my LBS. Both were suppose to come with HED wheels. I hate to think that I'd still be waiting for my bike from Borealis (since December 10th) if I had not bought another set of wheels. Now I have two sets of Turnagain FR80's that are worthless to me. I have utilized the hubs in my Hugo build, but the rims are worthless.

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