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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidsfromoz View Post
    Echo Large measured (+-10mm) as
    Reach 430mm
    Stack 640mm
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    Thanks!!

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    Just joined Club Echo™ today:



    This bike rocks!!! Hoping to take it on a proper technical ride Wednesday so as to get a bearing on it’s strengths and weaknesses (as a trailbike that will see 90% hardcore roots/rock gardens/loose/steep/off-camber/dirt/mud/etc.) as compared to my trusty 2012 9:zero:7.
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    Sweeeet!!

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    Nice. I Like the rims.

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    Mr. Freeze

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    Leopold, that's one *****in nice looking bike, I'll have to bring my Yampa back from Tahoe to the bay area some time and do a ride with ya, but maybe something besides Kennedy
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    That blue on blue looks good.

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    Thanks for all the compliments! The guys at Borealis were trying to discourage me from getting blue on blue, but I insisted that fatbikes are like clown bikes– obnoxious, standing out in the crowd; why not make a colourful statement!!! Just waiting to break even with the sale of my other bikes (hopefully soon) such that I can order a not-so-subtle set of blue Nextie 90mm fatbike carbon rims to make it even more obnoxious!
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    I really like the blue on blue, looks saweeeet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Thanks for all the compliments! The guys at Borealis were trying to discourage me from getting blue on blue, but I insisted that fatbikes are like clown bikes– obnoxious, standing out in the crowd; why not make a colourful statement!!! Just waiting to break even with the sale of my other bikes (hopefully soon) such that I can order a not-so-subtle set of blue Nextie 90mm fatbike carbon rims to make it even more obnoxious!
    One more example of where it paid not to listen.

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    Pictures from a ride last week:

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    My new Yampa--24.87 pounds

    Built up my Yampa--weighs in at 24.87 pounds. Race face Next SL cranks (28tooth) XT 11-36, BB7, HED rims, Knards (3.8--unitl the snow falls then will change over), Look S-Track pedals. Size XL.
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    ^ Nice

    My stock large X01 yampa with knards and Velocity Dually rims running tubless came in a 23 pounds

    With a dropper post and a Bluto it came in at 26.1 pounds, although I think wider end caps are coming soon for the Borialis hubs, I built my
    29+ wheel set with 135 hope hubs, using end caps and a offset brake adapter I can easily switch between the carbon fork and the Bluto.
    I went with an 80mm Bluto that which once sagged the AtoC is pretty much identical to the carbon fork.





    The Bluto and the 29+ setup really takes this bike to another level, a normal hardtail which I have not ridden since the mid 90's because
    of back issues would have crushed me on this ride last weekend. But between the front suspension, high volume tires and the flexible chain stays,
    I had no problem riding 30 miles of rocky terrain and now it's hard to choose between this setup and my 160mm travel bike




    End Caps I used
    Hauck-Bicycles Hub Spacers – Converts 135 to 150mm includes offset disc brake mount
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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread-image.jpgBorealis Picture and Specs Thread-image.jpgHere's my xo/x9. Just about to build a 29+ wheel set, and throw on a Bluto. Can anyone verify where the serial number is located on the frame?

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    Inside the head tube--may need a mirror on a handle to read it--plus a little light.

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    Just weighed up my stock XX1 Yampa, Marge Lights with 120tpi Knards. Bathroom scale says 24.8 for an XL w/cheapie SPD pedals.

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    LOL! I failed to note the specs of my Borealis Echo… however, it’s a stock X0/X9 build with the exception of the blue FR80 Turnagain rims, Bud and Lou 4.8 tires, a 180mm front rotor (just installed yesterday), and the remote lockout Bluto… once the shop gets the right parts in, that is. So far I think that the XX1 components and the Carbondale rims would have been worth the extra money, but then had I gone that route I am sure my wife would be filing for divorce right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viffer2003 View Post
    Can anyone verify where the serial number is located on the frame?
    Like orind mentioned, it is in the headtube on the 2013 frames. Sometimes it can be a bit tough to read so a flashlight and a quick wipe with water or saliva usually helps.

    The 2014 frames have the serial on the bottom of the BB shell and are much easier to read.

    You will love your 29+ set up! I keep my Yampa set up 29+ with Duallys about 90% of the time. It really makes this a great year round bike capable of nearly anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    With a dropper post and a Bluto it came in at 26.1 pounds, although I think wider end caps are coming soon for the Borialis hubs
    Nice build and video!

    At Borealis we are not planning on offering wider end caps but rather chose to go with a true 150mm specific front hub since it makes for a much nicer, nearly dishless, wheel build. We do have 150mm hubs available separately or as built wheels if you are looking to upgrade to a Bluto though.

    Great pictures in this thread, keep em coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriskmurray View Post
    At Borealis we are not planning on offering wider end caps but rather chose to go with a true 150mm specific front hub since it makes for a much nicer, nearly dishless, wheel build
    But a third party is working on an offering, rather spend a few bucks on endcaps than buy a whole new wheelset,
    this way I can swap the same wheelset between my carbon fork and the Bluto. No Dishing is required with an offset
    brake mount, this is what I'm doing with my 29+ wheelset and it works perfect.
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    Summer Mode:

    Borealis Echo murdered out, size large
    Rockshox Bluto 100mm travel
    SRAM XX1 Drivetrain
    Next SL Crankset and BB w/ 32t ring
    Avid XX brakes 160 rotors front and back (need to get a 180 for up front)
    Easton EC70 Wide Carbon bars
    Thomson X4 stem
    Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    Cobb DRT SHC Saddle
    Dually rims laced to Borealis hubs
    Surly Knards 29x3 120 tpi front and back tubless
    Time ATAC carbon pedals
    ESI Chunky black grips
    Arundel Mandible bottle cages

    Big plus that my custom oveja negra threadworks frame bag from my yampa fits the Echo quite nicely.
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    New Toy

    Became a member of the club today, can't wait to take it out....
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    This bike goes anywhere

    Racing in mud yesterday, recovering next to the Indian Ocean today. Sorry bout the angle but I guess it's cause I'm down under I couldn't get it the right way up for you folks. Promise I tried several times.
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    To you guys with Echos and running RaceFace Next cranks...
    Are you running the 190 width or 170 width spindle?
    tia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    To you guys with Echos and running RaceFace Next cranks...
    Are you running the 190 width or 170 width spindle?
    tia!
    Talking to the Borealis guys on the phone, he said the 170 works on the Echo.
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    Are you guys routing hydraulic lines internally? A couple bikes look like they have lines zip-tied to the top tube.

    This may end up being the lightest bike I own, and I have a bunch of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    But a third party is working on an offering, rather spend a few bucks on endcaps than buy a whole new wheelset,
    this way I can swap the same wheelset between my carbon fork and the Bluto. No Dishing is required with an offset
    brake mount, this is what I'm doing with my 29+ wheelset and it works perfect.
    Borealis hub endcaps to let a 135mm hub work in a Bluto fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Borealis hub endcaps to let a 135mm hub work in a Bluto fork
    Did you buy them or spin em yourself?

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    Hauck should be offering them up to the public before to long
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    Echo getting sideways

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    Finally got mine pretty much done, still need to reorient the seatpost and run cable to it. Have not weighed it but it's light. It rides beautifully!

    Borealis frame & fork, hubs, headset and seatpost collar
    Race Face Next SL cranks w/26t
    KS LEV DX seat post
    Answer 20-20 carbon handlebar
    Thomson 70 mm X4 stem
    XT brakes and rotors 180/160
    SRAM 10-speed shifter
    SRAM 11-36 cassette
    SRAM X9 derailleur
    XTR pedals (til winter)
    ti railed WTB Pure V seat
    odi lock on grips
    Nextie 90 mm rims built w/Sapim double butted spokes and brass nipples
    Endos on it now (w/tubes) but will put on studded Dillingers (tubeless) when snow comes
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    Looks great radair nice build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMONEY80 View Post
    Looks great radair nice build!
    Thanks! Very impressed with the quality of the frame & fork. The internal cable routing is super clean, love it.

    I have had an original purple Pugs since 2006 so I am psyched to have a light bike for winter. It's quite fun out on the dirt, too.

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    Large Echo
    Formula R1 brakes
    XTR shifter to XT derailleur with One Up Rad cage
    Twenty6 42t cog on XTR cassette
    Hope hubs with Nexties built by MikeSee
    RaceFAce Next SLs with a 28t ring
    Easton carbon 27.2 post ( I like the flex) and bars
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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    Large Echo
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    Twenty6 42t cog on XTR cassette
    Hope hubs with Nexties built by MikeSee
    RaceFAce Next SLs with a 28t ring
    Easton carbon 27.2 post ( I like the flex) and bars
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    So I got to borrow a medium Echo for a few days in Colorado Springs. I also took a tour of the Borealis site.
    First off I really liked the bike. I felt the geometry was spot on. the bike was light and tight.
    Next thing, when talking with the Borealis crew, all of the said how much they liked working there. It great to see such passionate people in the industry.
    I'm sure there is a Echo in my near future.
    If you have not tried one its sure worthwhile to go ride one.
    BTW Im am currently on a 2011 Salsa mukluk 2. Time for some new wheels!
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    I am new here. Have spent quite a bit of time reading on mtbr.com
    This is my second post. Some very nice bikes in this thread.
    I just bought a Yampa X0X9 on Saturday.
    Stock configuration.
    (except 4.6 Specialized Ground control tires) Got a good deal on the tires.
    First fatbike. Can't wait to do some riding.
    I brought the Yampa home with some cheap plastic pedals until I figured out what I wanted to do for pedals.
    I am probably going to rob the pedals off my stumpjumper.

    Anybody have serious ride time on their Yampa?
    Any issues?

    Thx, Todd



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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    Issues? Do two broken frames count as an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankD View Post
    Issues? Do two broken frames count as an issue?
    I think posting about this before you give Borealis a chance to make it right is completely wrong. Give them a chance to make it right before you hop on social media and toss 'em under a buss. As long as they try and make it right and bend over backwards to make you happy, I don't see the point of doing this. I've personally broken a few frames myself, and the makers could not have been more helpful making it right. I moved onto another bike, and managed not to burn any bridges along the way. Every single fat bike maker has seen broken frames, every single one. There is no magic frame material that can be mass produced and ridden the way we ride these that will never break. I know it's frustrating, I've been there, but I disagree with how you are handling it. Not that you care, and I get that, but it's wrong.

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    Point taken.

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    I had a dream the other night my Yampa broke into 10 pieces. In the same dream the guys at Borealis replaced it for me.

    I love my bike. I put my Dillinger 5's on the other night:


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    Pic is with my old stem and bars but here is the current spec:
    -Large Echo Frame
    -Bluto Fork 100mm travel
    -Cane Creek 11 headset
    -Thomson -10 degree 80mm X4stem
    -Thomson XC 730mm flat carbon bar with ESI Chunky grips
    -Thomson Masterpiece seatpost
    -Cobb Cycling SHC DRT Saddle
    -Race Face Next SL Crnak 32tooth ring 175 arms and Race Face BB
    -Avid XX1 Brakes 180 rotor front /160 rotor rear
    -XX1 trigger shifter, rear derailleur, and 11-42 cassette
    -Nextie-Bike Jungle FOx rims laced to Industry Nine Classic Fat Hubs
    -Knard 29x3 120 tpi tires tubeless
    -Time ATAC carbon pedals.

    LOVE this ride!
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    Yes, I like it.

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    Apparently mine was damaged in shipping... But the guys at Borealis are putting together another one and shipping 2 day air to resolve the situation.
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    Ride #2 with new fatty. Just in time for loads of snow hereBorealis Picture and Specs Thread-20141114_112425.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankD View Post


    Yes, I like it.
    SWEEET!!! Which dropper post are you running, and how much of a b¡tch was it to get the internal routing sorted out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    SWEEET!!! Which dropper post are you running, and how much of a b¡tch was it to get the internal routing sorted out?
    Not who you were asking but the KS LEV DX post works really well using the internal routing for the front derailleur. Pics of this set up in this thread: Borealis Yampa Dropper Post
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    Finally got mine on Friday night.

    Took it out for 35 mile quckie. Pretty awesome.


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    irishpitbull, have you thrown that beast on a scale yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    SWEEET!!! Which dropper post are you running, and how much of a b¡tch was it to get the internal routing sorted out?
    Thomson Elite 125mm. The cable is zip-tied to the frame, so no hassle there. Har har!

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    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    In the brake forum you'll find a mile lot thread about the Avid Turkey warble and peoples solutions. Mine was organic pads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Finally got mine on Friday night.

    Took it out for 35 mile quckie. Pretty awesome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
    I just ordered one with the new Guides, and I have already tried them on a different bike and they were a huge step up from normal XX brakes. Very Shimanoesque.

    I got mine with 2 Bud's though, so I'm gonna pay a small penalty on those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpitbull View Post
    Yeah 24.5 as pictured. Weighed on a park tool scale. I love everything but the XX brakes. Sounds like I ran over a turkey.

    It was 22.5 before the pedals, Garmin mount and bottle cage.
    Great looking bike, Irishpitbull! were you at Maybury today (Sunday?) I saw a Borealis rolling through the parking lot when I was loading up after my ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnyquist View Post
    Great looking bike, Irishpitbull! were you at Maybury today (Sunday?) I saw a Borealis rolling through the parking lot when I was loading up after my ride.
    Yeah that was me. Finished up 3 laps. 1st 2 were good the 3rd was muddy.

    The wheels are HED Big Deal. Unbelievably light.
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    Giving thanks for a new fat bike on this fine Thanksgiving day.

    Mine is the Echo. 28lbs with pedals, cages, and 4oz sealant in each Bud.


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    Beautiful bike, safe to say that's about as light as you're going to see with a Bluto and HED wheelset running the big tires.

    What does the Yampa weigh w Nexties?

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    Issues? Do two broken frames count as an issue?
    I'd be curious to know how you managed to break two frames? Where were the breaks? How much do you weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyB View Post
    Beautiful bike, safe to say that's about as light as you're going to see with a Bluto and HED wheelset running the big tires.

    What does the Yampa weigh w Nexties?

    I did have the steel axle installed in the rear hub, versus the aluminum one, and had wheels built with brass nipps, so it would have been in the 27.??? range but was happy to give that weight up in exahcange for the extra durability.

    The Yampa with the Nexties weighs 26.2lbs with cages, pedals, sealant, and two small lights mounted on it.....and some dirt.

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    On my Yampa the front through axle is a real fight to get in and out with the stock hub and wheel set.
    Anybody else have to struggle with the through axle?
    I pull the front wheel off when I take my bike to the trails.
    It is the only way to get the bike in my VW Jetta GLI.

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    If it's like mine was it probably is the tube that separates the bearings in the hub, when you pull out the axle the tube falls down, this makes it difficult to insert the axle due to hitting the tube, next time you remove the axle look thru the hub and you will see... Essentially the bearings are pressed in the hub and then hold the tube in place. What I did was had the bike shop align the tube correctly and then re-press the bearings into place, it has held pretty good but my guess it's going to fail again.. Very poor design in my opinion..

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    Quote Originally Posted by co_biker View Post
    If it's like mine was it probably is the tube that separates the bearings in the hub, when you pull out the axle the tube falls down, this makes it difficult to insert the axle due to hitting the tube, next time you remove the axle look thru the hub and you will see... Essentially the bearings are pressed in the hub and then hold the tube in place. What I did was had the bike shop align the tube correctly and then re-press the bearings into place, it has held pretty good but my guess it's going to fail again.. Very poor design in my opinion..
    Thanks for the reply. My first bike with a through axle.
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    I have the same problem with my front hub, Borealis told me it happens some times and to take it by my shop and have what co_biker describes done. Yes not a great design, my Hope hubs have been flawless.
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    I found the through axle hard to get in and out as you describe, but I found there was a little o ring on the inside that was the problem. Took it out and is fine now. Still havnt worked out what it was for. Thought maybe to keep water out? But I havnt had any issues. You can put lube on the axle so it slides through the o ring but it's a pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidsfromoz View Post
    I found the through axle hard to get in and out as you describe, but I found there was a little o ring on the inside that was the problem. Took it out and is fine now. Still havnt worked out what it was for. Thought maybe to keep water out? But I havnt had any issues. You can put lube on the axle so it slides through the o ring but it's a pain.
    That O-ring might be from the end caps on the hub. I have the same issue with my front hub, those little tubes are a PITA. I'm not sure I understand the pressed in bearing fix but will take a closer look next time my wheel is off.

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    amazing bike

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    Sv: Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    So finaly I've built up my Echo. Very pleased with this bike. I'm missing a few sticker-details, but are having it made. Not the best presentation pic, but for shure in its right environment.



    Spec:
    - Medium Echo frame
    - Bluto RCT3 built to 120mm
    - Borealis hubs with nextie Wilddragon rims and db(2-1.7-2) spokes
    - Snowshoe XL or Bud/Lou
    - X0 trail WC brakes
    - 180mm ubercompoents discs
    - X01 gears
    - Reverb Stealth with Fabric scoop saddle
    - Turbine stem and next bars with Lizard skins grips
    - next sl cranks
    - Hope purple goodies

    All with XT pedals and tubeless weigh in at 13.1 kg (28.8lbs).

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    Great week of diverse riding

    Riding Spec X01. Have BD/I 9 wheel set on order
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    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    Pic is with my old stem and bars but here is the current spec:
    -Large Echo Frame
    -Bluto Fork 100mm travel
    -Cane Creek 11 headset
    -Thomson -10 degree 80mm X4stem
    -Thomson XC 730mm flat carbon bar with ESI Chunky grips
    -Thomson Masterpiece seatpost
    -Cobb Cycling SHC DRT Saddle
    -Race Face Next SL Crnak 32tooth ring 175 arms and Race Face BB
    -Avid XX1 Brakes 180 rotor front /160 rotor rear
    -XX1 trigger shifter, rear derailleur, and 11-42 cassette
    -Nextie-Bike Jungle FOx rims laced to Industry Nine Classic Fat Hubs
    -Knard 29x3 120 tpi tires tubeless
    -Time ATAC carbon pedals.

    LOVE this ride!
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    Hey Tri,

    Looking to do the same to replace my Gnarvester; What weight is that thing coming in at?
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    24.66 pounds with the current setup and an arundel sport cage mounted.

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    Got this about a month ago. XX1 build except the crank (RF turbine). Set up tubeless with Marge Lites and 120 tpi Hudus. XTR pedals, Elite polycarbonate cage, Fizik Antares VS. 24.5 lbs. Rolls like it's on butter.
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    Anyone have weights on the Turnagain FR80 rims laced to the Borealis hubs/ original/ stock wheelset? I skimmed through here and didn't see anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Anyone have weights on the Turnagain FR80 rims laced to the Borealis hubs/ original/ stock wheelset? I skimmed through here and didn't see anything
    Roughly 3000 grams. Hubs are 560 gm, rims are 1800, spokes are probably 450.

    I saved roughly a pound by going with Marge Lites. Will be having the wheels rebuilt using Sapim CX-Ray spokes to save close to a half pound.

    Rotational weight and a new perfect build are my motivation!

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    1x10, 30t narrow wide, 11-40 one up Shimano Xt. Nextie 65mm rims with Snowshoes set up tubeless.


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    Twice the fun!!!

    Echo on right is about a week old, one on left is about 2 months old. But the 6 pack was brand new that day Borealis Picture and Specs Thread-20150124_133526-large-.jpg(yesterday), unfortunately, it didn't survive.

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    Borealis Picture and Specs Thread

    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


    There are two types of mountain bikers. Those who are faster than me, and me.
    I'll try and get you a shot at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by alshead View Post
    Can anyone with an echo AND race face next sl cranks in a 170 spindle share a shot of the frame clearance at the chain stays?


    There are two types of mountain bikers. Those who are faster than me, and me.
    Both of the Echo's you see in the pic posted above have 170 spindles and the clearance is plenty, but if the gentleman who said he'd try to get you a pic at work today is unable to do so I will see what I can do if it will help you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerThenSnot View Post
    I'll try and get you a shot at work
    As always, Dave: You = the man.

    (silly litesepeedaddict called you a "gentleman"- lulz)
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    ^Awesome- thanks litespeed!
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    Y'all beat me to it 😃
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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    I did have the steel axle installed in the rear hub, versus the aluminum one, and had wheels built with brass nipps, so it would have been in the 27.??? range but was happy to give that weight up in exahcange for the extra durability.

    The Yampa with the Nexties weighs 26.2lbs with cages, pedals, sealant, and two small lights mounted on it.....and some dirt.
    First time flipping through here in a while. I was actually the one who built your wheels and I remember them specifically because a steel axle and brass nipples on HED rims sounds like something I would do as I am still having a tough time letting some of my curmudgeon like tendencies go. Bike looks awesome by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriskmurray View Post
    First time flipping through here in a while. I was actually the one who built your wheels and I remember them specifically because a steel axle and brass nipples on HED rims sounds like something I would do as I am still having a tough time letting some of my curmudgeon like tendencies go. Bike looks awesome by the way!

    Very cool, thanks for dropping by and introducing yourself. The bike is awesome, I wouldn't change a thing. It also inspired a few more Borealis purchases in town after everyone saw this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litespeedaddict View Post
    Very cool, thanks for dropping by and introducing yourself. The bike is awesome, I wouldn't change a thing. It also inspired a few more Borealis purchases in town after everyone saw this one.
    For sure, I always love seeing where my wheels end up!

    Glad you are enjoying the bike so much, bias aside, these bikes are incredibly fun and addictive!

    Might as well add to the thread while at it.

    This is my Echo with the new 100mm Turnagain tubeless rims.


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    Need more stopping power, already run a 200 rotor in the front, thinking about going 180 the back, looks like it could be tight fit adding an adapter. Anyone try this yet? Large frame BTW.
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    Out for a ride on the local snomo trails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Need more stopping power, already run a 200 rotor in the front, thinking about going 180 the back, looks like it could be tight fit adding an adapter. Anyone try this yet? Large frame BTW.
    Fits with ease, both Yampa and Echo large frame.

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    Ups just delivered my yampa

    The hed are not holding air

    I'm hoping the tubes are damaged and nothing else

    Really excited to get her dialed in and ride

    Lbs opens at 10 and I'll be waiting
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    The tires are on tubed and not holding air? Sounds like a tube problem and not a rim issue.

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    I am hoping it the tubes

    Im hoping the LBS has time to help me go tubeless tomorrow so i can ride with my buddy in the afternoon

    it weighs just under 25 (luggage scale) which is mind blowing

    Quote Originally Posted by tri-tele View Post
    The tires are on tubed and not holding air? Sounds like a tube problem and not a rim issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    I am hoping it the tubes

    Im hoping the LBS has time to help me go tubeless tomorrow so i can ride with my buddy in the afternoon

    it weighs just under 25 (luggage scale) which is mind blowing
    Come on man, certainly you know how to fix a flat!? Tubeless can wait for another day, get out there and ride.

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    Yes of course I can change a flat!

    But I don't have a torque wrench (yet)

    Did some excellent riding and she rides strong
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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    Ups just delivered my yampa

    The hed are not holding air

    I'm hoping the tubes are damaged and nothing else

    Really excited to get her dialed in and ride

    Lbs opens at 10 and I'll be waiting
    Wait.. you got a bike with HED rims??

    I ordered (and paid for!) my Echo with HED rims back in January, but the HEDs were back ordered. The gave me a great deal on a set of Turnagains, so I could ride, but so far, nothing on the HEDs. That I paid for. If they're shipping them, I'm a bit torqued that they haven't shipped mine out yet.

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    I picked mine up in the secondary market

    Is anyone else having trouble with their front release? My handles spins right off

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post
    I pm you

    I picked mine up in the secondary market

    Is anyone else having trouble with their front release? My handles spins right off
    Ah, OK.

    Not torqued, then. Just impatient!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Wait.. you got a bike with HED rims??

    I ordered (and paid for!) my Echo with HED rims back in January, but the HEDs were back ordered. The gave me a great deal on a set of Turnagains, so I could ride, but so far, nothing on the HEDs. That I paid for. If they're shipping them, I'm a bit torqued that they haven't shipped mine out yet.
    My HED's have been on order since December the 10th when I bought my Yampa. Borealis sold me a set of Turnagains pretty cheap...but they are POS. I pulled the rims off the hubs and replaced them with a set of Stans Hugos.

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    I'm sorry to hear that, I hope your carbon hoops arrive soon


    I don't see that package on the website anymore

    I can say it's worth the wait

    Nice and light rotational weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidner View Post


    I don't see that package on the website anymore

    Yeah, the funny part is, I bought the bike, actually 2 Yampas…from my LBS. Both were suppose to come with HED wheels. I hate to think that I'd still be waiting for my bike from Borealis (since December 10th) if I had not bought another set of wheels. Now I have two sets of Turnagain FR80's that are worthless to me. I have utilized the hubs in my Hugo build, but the rims are worthless.

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