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    Borealis or Carbon wheelset?

    So I'm in a pickle I can either get a Borealis frame, fork, and hub set or go with a Fatback carbon wheelset on my 170mm frame which I would also go with an I9 hub. What would you do?

    Borealis:
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    Fatback aluminum 170mm
    Carbon 77mm Fatback hoops
    Vee Snowshoes
    I9's
    hmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    So I'm in a pickle I can either get a Borealis frame, fork, and hub set or go with a Fatback carbon wheelset on my 170mm frame which I would also go with an I9 hub. What would you do?

    Borealis:
    CLownshoes
    Vee Snowshoes

    Fatback aluminum 170mm
    Carbon 77mm Fatback hoops
    Vee Snowshoes
    I9's
    hmmmm
    the way my brain is wired, I would constantly itch with the 170mm rear end. I would never be at peace with it. I would much rather go the Borealis frame route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yxan View Post
    the way my brain is wired, I would constantly itch with the 170mm rear end. I would never be at peace with it. I would much rather go the Borealis frame route.
    I'm wired the same way but I know I would save a lot more weight especially being rotational weight with the carbon wheelset on my 170mm frame. errrrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I'm wired the same way but I know I would save a lot more weight especially being rotational weight with the carbon wheelset on my 170mm frame. errrrrr
    but nothing says you cant buy carbon hoops next year and who knows what additional carbon wheel goodness might be out next year, dare we dream of a 100mm carbon rim

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    If money were no object, I'd go with the 907 carbon frame, I9 hubs (190s are supposed to be out in 4-6 weeks), carbon rims or Stan's rims, and a collection of tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    If money were no object, I'd go with the 907 carbon frame, I9 hubs (190s are supposed to be out in 4-6 weeks), carbon rims or Stan's rims, and a collection of tires.
    And don't forget the Harem
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    And don't forget the Harem
    Happens automatically once you have a carbon fatbike.

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    I've ridden the Yampa - a lightweight build, too. I'll save you the entire review, but bottom line, the bike is different. The time I've spent on the Yampa was with Marge Lites built with DT 2/1.5 triple butted spokes - total weight just over 2000g. It rides nimble, climbs like a monkey and is a lot of fun. Since, we've done the same build with heavier spokes (DT double butted 1.8) and it gains about a half pound, a little lateral stiffness, but I prefer light. The lighter build is more challenging, but worth it in my opinion.
    We are building clownshoes for a Yampa with the same 1.5g spokes this week for a client. I will post weight once built, but will likely not have a review, as I won't be able to ride them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    If money were no object, I'd go with the 907 carbon frame, I9 hubs (190s are supposed to be out in 4-6 weeks), carbon rims or Stan's rims, and a collection of tires.
    Just curious why you would go with the 907 over the Borealis. I did a short ride on a Yampa mid summer and it was a pretty nice ride, plenty light but also staff laterally. And I do think you can tell the difference in bike frame stiffness even when they are sitting on big fat soft tires. I have an old ti frame with a ti fork and it feels way different than the Yampa did or the aluminum Fatbacks I've ridden for that matter.
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    Carbon wheelset, most bang for the buck, most difference in ride/acceleration. Get the carbon frame in a year or two...
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    You'll notice the wheels more than the frame.
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    With a Borealis frame, fork and hub i would definatly also get a Borealis wheelset ..

    But thats just me

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    Yeah I think I'm over the Borealis. I use my fat bike for a do everything and I just can't see kicking a carbon frame around all winter. Now I was up all night thinking of going to a 190mm Fatback, crap!!

    Oh and I am always an advocate for loosing rotational weight but man that Borealis is sexy!!
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    There's a Borealis all built up in the shop. It sure is purty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    There's a Borealis all built up in the shop. It sure is purty.
    Yeah there is a frame/fork at mine just calling my name.
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    borealis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
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    Yes that is my true dream $50k in bikes living in a $30k house. Ahh heaven!!

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    I understand your pain. I rode a Borealis because I thought I was interested in one and now I want one but I want it with carbon wheels. I'm wondering if the soup kitchens mind me bringing my full carbon fat bike in while I eat because I'd hate to leave it outside alone.

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    Seems Borealis has really hit the ground running with their carbon frame even partnering with Competitive Cyclist to market them. Looks like an awesome bike but I too would want it with the carbon rims.

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    Everyone knows he will break down and get the rims also
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    Just curious why you would go with the 907 over the Borealis. I did a short ride on a Yampa mid summer and it was a pretty nice ride, plenty light but also staff laterally. And I do think you can tell the difference in bike frame stiffness even when they are sitting on big fat soft tires. I have an old ti frame with a ti fork and it feels way different than the Yampa did or the aluminum Fatbacks I've ridden for that matter.
    Mostly aesthetics, but I haven't seen either bike in person yet. The Borealis frame looks a bit fragile in the rear triangle to me. But honestly, if I were in the market I'd look closely at both of them. It would be a tough call. I would love to rest ride one of those 21lb dream fatties just to see what a 21lb fatbike feels like.

    I agree with you on the stiffness thing. I can feel the difference between my Ti fatbike and my Pugs. Geometries are almost identical.

    Are any of the carbon rims even available yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Are any of the carbon rims even available yet?
    Uh.....no not really.

    What is your ti fatty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Uh.....no not really.

    What is your ti fatty?
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