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    Borealis Carbon Fatbike

    Someone posted a pic of this on here already, but here's some more info:
    Borealis Enters the Fatbike Market with Carbon Yampa

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    Awesome!

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    Borealis Carbon Fatbike

    Pretty sweet. I might have to sell my everything to get one of those. Complete bike price isn't bad compared to frame.

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    Looks like a game changer! Carbon and 190mm spacing! Will fit 4.8 tires no problem! Can't wait to see one in person.
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    Saw and (briefly) rode one last week. Hardtails aren't my cup o' tea but this'n looked and felt very well thought out.

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    The best/most refined looking carbon offering so far, in my opinion.

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    Click went the bar.
    Still cleaning my Fatback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancelot View Post
    Looks like a game changer! Carbon and 190mm spacing! Will fit 4.8 tires no problem! Can't wait to see one in person.
    Everytime someone say's game changer it seems to be mean the complete opposite......

    Example:
    Anchor says its new milk bottle technology will be a "game changer" for the fresh milk market.
    "Triple layer and light proof? The stuff lives in a fridge most of the time ! what a waste of $"

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    Yet another "industry standard". We sure did blow past 170 as a "standard" quickly. How about 197 to accommodate 190 plus thru-axle?

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    I like it... very much !

    $2249 for frame and forks isn't that bad. Pivot and Niner want $2200 for their hardtail frames without a fork and that's with China offering non brand name hardtails for $350.
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    I didn't know what I was looking for but I think I've just found it.

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    Priced right around the Carbon Beargrease X9 build. It will be interesting to see how the Yampa & Salsa compare. Salsa better get with it, they aren't telling anybody anything at this point and that includes their dealers.
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    I have all the parts needed except frame and crankset for a crazy light Fat for my winter treks. I aiming for under 23lbs.

    I had my eye on the Project Murphy. They were suppose to come out in Februaury. No word since.

    This Borealis looks great. Weighs in perfect. But 190mm rear. I won`t be doing it unless they can size down rear as option.

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    I think this looks like a great platform. I have had a carbon beargrease in the back of my mind here lately but this could be another option. I do like options, especially having a qr15 option on the front.

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    Bummer to find out that XL's won't be available anytime soon.
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    Certainly sounds interesting...and light

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    If you want to fit the biggest tires/rims out there and have a full drive train a 190mm rear hub (or virtual 190mm hub like the Moonlander) is the way to do it. My guess is 190mm will be the adopted standard going forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post

    $2249 for frame and forks isn't that bad. Pivot and Niner want $2200 for their hardtail frames without a fork and that's with China offering non brand name hardtails for $350.
    Actually... it says "Frameset: $1799" when you click on the Yampa Frame tab. Not sure if there is a web error or what the deal is. http://www.borealisbikes.com/bikes/frame/

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    This is super exciting and for what I use my Muk for this will be fantastic I only use the bike on trails and the Borealis will be fantastic on our local trails

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    It should build up very nicely with the new 1 x 11 XO that we should be seeing downunder in September

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    That weight is surely an error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    That weight is surely an error?
    Nah. A local dealer told me that the weight weenie version will be a different build than the one pictured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Nah. A local dealer told me that the weight weenie version will be a different build than the one pictured.
    That'll be the version with 29er rims and tyres then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Actually... it says "Frameset: $1799" when you click on the Yampa Frame tab. Not sure if there is a web error or what the deal is. http://www.borealisbikes.com/bikes/frame/
    I guess that means the fork is pretty pricey at $450 or maybe more separately.

    What will the hubs cost?

    I assume the 15mmQR option is 135mm. that may help make suspension forks more accessible at some point, especially if it has front rotor spacing.

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    It looks like the carbon beargrease just got kicked off the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by druidh View Post
    That'll be the version with 29er rims and tyres then?
    Ha ha! Maybe, but I think it can be done without getting TOO crazy. My bike's a little over 27 lbs, and if I ditch the pedals (like all the manufacturers seem to do), and switch to an all-carbon fork like the Borealis or Carver, I'd be around 25.5lbs. The carbon frame and XX1 will get you under 25 without doing anything dumb like carbon brake rotors or a saddle you'd never want to sit on for more than 15 minutes.

    That said, I'm not likely to get one since I'm pretty well squared away in the bike department at this time.

    p.s. to Borealis: Spend 10 minutes fleshing out your website!

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    I'm in love, Carbon frame that fits a clown shoe/Bud/Lou combo.... Price isn't bad at all either

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    Borealis Carbon Fatbike

    A couple of things have me scratching my head.

    I live in Maryland and we do not get much good snow anymore so my scratching is in regards to how I use my bike and what I desire in a replacement for my current fatbike.

    I wonder how many people will pre order a bike without knowing the geometry?

    Posting a picture in a rumor thread seems like an odd way to reveal a new bike.

    Is a light bike advantageous when maximum floatation is desired?

    From my perspective a 4 seasons trail bike would be a better use of carbon.

    I am curious to see if anyone else feels the same way.

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    Sweet frame, best Carbon Fatty showing to date! What I don't understand though is the frame is set up and made to handle the max tire/rim size for float but the upward curved top tube is kind of counter-productive for float type riding.

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    I agree, there are several contradictions. It is a great looking bike, after seeing the picture I was hopeful that it was a trail bike but was bummed once I saw it was designed for 190mm spacing.

    I will keep looking.

    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Sweet frame, best Carbon Fatty showing to date! What I don't understand though is the frame is set up and made to handle the max tire/rim size for float but the upward curved top tube is kind of counter-productive for float type riding.
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    Re: Borealis Carbon Fatbike

    ...Be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Sweet frame, best Carbon Fatty showing to date! What I don't understand though is the frame is set up and made to handle the max tire/rim size for float but the upward curved top tube is kind of counter-productive for float type riding.
    you really do hate anything even slightly retro looking
    did you have a bad accident with a Shwinn cruiser ?
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    I don't see why any toptube should curve upwards other than styling, and when you are dealing with large diameter tires and possibly front suspension axle to center lengths, it is a recipe for not enough stand-over clearance, especially for people like me, who have short legs, but have a long torso, and need a large frame to get enough room lengthwise.

    structurally, a straight tube will always be best for strength and stiffness, and if flexibility is desired, the curve can go either way and accomplish the same result. I guess if the top tube length is what it needs to be for a given size, but the seat tube is shorter than normal, an upward curve can be used and still have the same stand-over height, but you would have to use a longer seat post. I guess styling is what sells though.

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    by the way, speaking of carbon fatbike frames, what else is out there?

    everybody knows about the beargrease carbon.

    I have seen the 38 frameworks Hogback on their site. Has anyone gotten a Hogback, and posted about it here yet?

    What happened with the On-One carbon Fatty? Was that intended for limited production, or was it just someone playing around, teasing us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt-Orange View Post
    you really do hate anything even slightly retro looking
    did you have a bad accident with a Shwinn cruiser ?

    Why yes, yes I did! But it didn't involve a Schwinn, it had something to do with a 55 chevy, a Gypsy, her female pet chimpanzee named Goliath, and a pair of fuzzy dice but that's a whole nother story. Come to think of it Goliath might have actually been a male, that would explain a lot

    I'm trying to dig up that post holed pic of you up at the UD, it's a perfect example of why standover is needed.

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    In deep snow, it doesn't matter what the height of the top tube is. If the bike has one, it's too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    In deep snow, it doesn't matter what the height of the top tube is. If the bike has one, it's too high.
    I respectfully disagree, but then again our idea of deep snow can be completely different and where your from I think it is. Sometimes a little extra standover can make a huge difference and sometimes your just screwed either way. I would rather take the side of caution and have it if I need it and yes sometimes I have needed it.

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    I am still holding my breath for a fat Ibis mojo frame hehe dreaming but it would be great.

    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    by the way, speaking of carbon fatbike frames, what else is out there?

    everybody knows about the beargrease carbon.

    I have seen the 38 frameworks Hogback on their site. Has anyone gotten a Hogback, and posted about it here yet?

    What happened with the On-One carbon Fatty? Was that intended for limited production, or was it just someone playing around, teasing us?

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    Fatbike product launch script:

    1: show carefully staged pictures of prototype

    2: release extremely unlikely weight

    3: wait for the hype to roll in.

    4A: Vaporware: Go back to step 1.

    4B: production: note that production model differs greatly from prototype. Note that weight has doubled. Note that price has gone up.

    5: Profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckfiddious View Post
    Salsa product launch script:

    1: show carefully staged pictures of prototype

    2: release extremely unlikely weight

    3: wait for the hype to roll in.

    4A: Vaporware: Go back to step 1.

    4B: production: note that production model differs greatly from prototype. Note that weight has doubled. Note that price has gone up.

    5: Profit.
    Fixed it for you.

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    Where is the frame manufactured? I don't think I need a 190 rear end where I live and enjoy riding my fattie. Do you need to run a crank on this that gives you a greater Q factor than say, my Fatback crank on my Al Fatback with 170mm rear end???

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I respectfully disagree, but then again our idea of deep snow can be completely different and where your from I think it is. Sometimes a little extra standover can make a huge difference and sometimes your just screwed either way. I would rather take the side of caution and have it if I need it and yes sometimes I have needed it.
    Well, on the trails that I mostly ride during the winter, it's easiest if you stop at a tree. If you put a foot down, but not on the packed path, you are going to be waist deep in snow. And, at that point, it doesn't matter where your top tube is at.

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    Interestingly, I contacted Borealis as they suggested on their site and told them I wanted one of their bikes. NO RESPONSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Interestingly, I contacted Borealis as they suggested on their site and told them I wanted one of their bikes. NO RESPONSE.
    How long did you wait before declaring response failure?

    I cold contact people pretty frequently for being Just Some Guy (which would have given me a panic attack years ago lol), some places get back quickly, some take their sweet time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Interestingly, I contacted Borealis as they suggested on their site and told them I wanted one of their bikes. NO RESPONSE.
    I sent an email to Adam directly figuring the website might not have set it or lost it in 1000 other responses. He mailed me right back with info and his phone number. I called him up and discussed some things.
    I then preordered one. Yeah Alphazz, I'm hooked on riding one in all conditions/seasons now that I have tasted the phat phun
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Fixed it for you.
    You know that the 2014 Salsa stuff is getting launched July 22-24th, right? If it's like last year, production 2014 stuff will be there.

    I will as well. I'll try and get the Carbon bike on a scale.

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    I must say I agree with wyoracerx as I too had a fast and enthusiastic response directly from Adam at Borealis when I sent an enquiry Nothing but very helpful I found

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    I got an email within 2 days with a listed phone number for further questions.
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    Borealis has a pic of a sub-24lb bike on their FB page. Looks like it has the carbon rims from the dude who posts here sometimes.

    https://www.facebook.com/BorealisBikes

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