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    Boot sole wear on flats with pins....

    Hi all-

    I've read through a lot of threads on winter boots people use here, but I have a question I haven't really seen addressed.

    I tried using an old pair of Vasque Sundowners for my winter riding, and they're ok down to mid-to-upper 20's for me. (And side note, my toes get super cold easily.) I have a pair of Garmont hiking boots with 400g of thinsulate that are awesome for winter hiking.

    I'm reticent to use them biking because I'm worried about my Wellgo MG-1 pedals tearing up the soles over time. Has anyone using boots/platforms found this to be an issue, or are the hiking boot soles generally unaffected by the pedal's pins?

    Trying to avoid spending any more money right now. (Just ordered a bunch of other stuff....)
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    I have Vasque Snow Junkie boots. My pinned pedals haven't tore them up yet.

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    next to no wear on the Vibram soles of my TNF boots
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    I saw an article on glue on replacement soles (just go over existing)from 5.10 which would be very grippy but I can't find em My Keens suck at gripping the pedals!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I saw an article on glue on replacement soles (just go over existing)from 5.10 which would be very grippy but I can't find em My Keens suck at gripping the pedals!!
    Any luck on the boots links I sent your way?

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    From my experience, any decent vibram hiking boot sole is impervious to flats pins. The soles get even tougher when cold. My $2 foam flip flops on the other hand are trashed due to my flats.
    I would advise not taking my advice.

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    A good reason to give your local shoe cobbler some business when needed. I'm always wondering how those guys stay in business...maybe I'll have a need now that I've got a bike with flats!

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    Vasque Arrowheads, zero indication of pins impacting the sole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I saw an article on glue on replacement soles (just go over existing)from 5.10 which would be very grippy but I can't find em My Keens suck at gripping the pedals!!

    Here is the link:

    https://fat-bike.com/2014/01/diy-win...t-soled-boots/

    The soles on my Wolvhammers are starting to show wear. Small chunks are missing from some of the knobs. It's to be expected, as I ride with Straitline De Facto pedals. Mean, mean (mean) grip :P

    When the vibram soles will be so worn out that they need to be replaced, I'll ask a cobbler to glue another vibram sole on.

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    Trials will eat up a pair of shoes much faster than winter fatbiking will ever do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Trials will eat up a pair of shoes much faster than winter fatbiking will ever do...
    I just want the king fu grip of my 5/10's with my winter boots.

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    don't get too excited. Stealth Rubber (5.10) is terrible in the snow.

    any grip increase on the bike will be paid double off the bike. In my experience anyway-

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    Quote Originally Posted by alias View Post
    don't get too excited. Stealth Rubber (5.10) is terrible in the snow.

    any grip increase on the bike will be paid double off the bike. In my experience anyway-
    Ah good to know, I will try it tonight. I still would rather have better pedal grip, I suck at walking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I just want the king fu grip of my 5/10's with my winter boots.
    5/10 Guide mid gtx might be good til you step offa the pedals, the shallow button tread isn't so good.
    I can relate to the sticky outsole of 5/10 for platforms with shin slicing pins...My trials bike uses my shins for a clawing post from time to time.
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    I can still see remnants of Hutch pedals on my shins from (gulp) 35 years ago.

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    Tried them today. Detected a couple dings, but overall not bad. Feet were much warmer than yesterday, and today was a colder day. So....looks promising. Thanks for the replies.

    And yeah, bdundee, shins are another story. I gave up on trying to keep those pretty some time back in the '90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I can still see remnants of Hutch pedals on my shins from (gulp) 35 years ago.
    Double cage bear traps, ftw!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Double cage bear traps, ftw!!!
    Those things where nasty bad @ss.

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    I sent my shoes away to have the sole replaced by 5.10, felt like I had Gene Simmons platform stage boots on.

    Now I wear sticky when mild and bulky when snowy, pins never been an issue with wear

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayooper View Post
    A good reason to give your local shoe cobbler some business when needed. I'm always wondering how those guys stay in business...maybe I'll have a need now that I've got a bike with flats!
    I'm a big supporter of my local Dinkytown cobbler. However, there is only so much he can do with the current manufacturing methods of shoe and boot makers. If you have a norwegian welt style boot or Birkenstocks he can bring them back to new but if you have Keens (those soles wear fast for me) there's not much to do.

    I've not had issues so far with my boots, but obviously softer rubber (which tends to be more grippy) can wear faster.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    I've honestly never even thought about it. They're boots and they're meant to be used - I put them on and go ride.
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    I wear an old pair of Danner boots with vibram soles and they show a bit of wear from the metal pins, but not torn up by any means.

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    For anyone looking for more grip when wearing hiking boots, just replace the pins with longer ones. Helps with packed snow on the pedal too. Works great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69tr6r View Post
    For anyone looking for more grip when wearing hiking boots, just replace the pins with longer ones. Helps with packed snow on the pedal too. Works great!
    Thanks dood!! I have no idea why I didn't think of that. Replaced a bunch tonight after a trip to the hardware store and much better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I just want the king fu grip of my 5/10's with my winter boots.
    Here ya go! These work awesome, just get a little big so you can wear some think wool socks, thats what i do, been out riding in the teens and no cold feet!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o08_s00
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    Quote Originally Posted by FT251 View Post
    Here ya go! These work awesome, just get a little big so you can wear some think wool socks, thats what i do, been out riding in the teens and no cold feet!
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o08_s00
    Thanks but not going to be warm enough for this dude, I gets really really cold feets

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    Have you tried the toe warmers yet? I place them on top of my smallest toes, not underneath like they show on the package.

    I find they work well and it doesn't feel like you have something under your foot. Placed on top they also block some of the wind coming through my 5.10 Freeriders.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...RVZ6ZM0Y3899KG

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69tr6r View Post
    Have you tried the toe warmers yet? I place them on top of my smallest toes, not underneath like they show on the package.

    I find they work well and it doesn't feel like you have something under your foot. Placed on top they also block some of the wind coming through my 5.10 Freeriders.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...RVZ6ZM0Y3899KG
    Toe warmers top with full foot warmers on the bottom, oversized boots with 2 insulated soles, plastic bags, and everything in between I wear 200g insulated boots to church and my feet get freezing cold while inside. It's a medical condition that came on after a surgery I had a few years ago. I've been riding extreme cold for a long time and had no issues before this.

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    Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have your bases covered!

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    I'm on my second season of Keen Summit County II boots. The pins are causing some mild damage but the boots have been great! Last weekend I completed a 63 mile race with temps never above 0* F, -11* at the start. Used one thin liner sock and one thick wool sock and I was golden all day. Windchills in the -30s F.
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