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    Bighits urban assault Mongoose Beast

    Sorry for the redirect, but it's the ugly truth.
    47 lbs to 37lbs!
    the dings it came with
    the broken kickstand
    the ugly truth about the tires.
    The bb
    The tubes
    Does it fit a bfl
    How big are the stock tires


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    Bighits 37lb wallbeast

    Oh forgot the pic.Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast-imageuploadedbytapatalk1364509884.637573.jpg
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    Tire and tube swap drops around 10 pounds off the bike!? I can't be reading that correctly. Holy cow. How much would tires and tubes cost you?

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    7.5 lbs lost in the tire swap. I didn't do the tubes because I want the thick stock ones. If you swap to surly tubes you can drop another 1lb easy.
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    sweet
    would be a great bike for running errands
    if it got stollen I would be 95% less sad than if my 907 got Nicked
    maybe up to 98% if it is a total POS
    enjoy your bike man
    if you have fun with it you are doing it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    sweet
    would be a great bike for running errands
    if it got stollen I would be 95% less sad than if my 907 got Nicked
    maybe up to 98% if it is a total POS
    enjoy your bike man
    if you have fun with it you are doing it right
    yep its gonna go to all the places i dont want to park my moonlander.
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    Oh holy crap. I need to get one now. Plus, those tires must be 3 TPI
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    That $30 deal ain't so good is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    yep its gonna go to all the places i dont want to park my moonlander.
    Seriously, you should see how light you can get it. lol


    How does the overall construction of the bike seam?
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    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    The frame is very well made. The fork is off though. A swap to a moonlander one may do wonders or this bike. The wheels are built well. The hubs are a bit low end but serviceable. The bb is ok too.
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    drill the rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    The fork is off though.
    More thoughts on the fork, please. Is it just your fork that is off (perhaps damaged in shipping) or is it the design you don't like? Thanks.
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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    I think the head angle is off when they made it and it causes wheel flop.

    When i put my wheel in i got to spread the stays and they are stiff little suckers. When the wheel is all the way in its way off i have to center it then tighten it up. A new fork like a moonlander fork is in order.
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    I'm not trying to discourage you in any way from building this, but...

    With the cost of the new tires, seat, handle bars, etc - I'd be willing to bet you could find a used Pugs for the same price if you looked hard enough. Again, I have no problem with building this up and seeing what it's capable of, frankly I think it's neat. However, you might be pushing past the point of diminishing returns.

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    Because it's there, somewhere... really

    Quote Originally Posted by hikernks View Post
    I'm not trying to discourage you in any way from building this, but...

    With the cost of the new tires, seat, handle bars, etc - I'd be willing to bet you could find a used Pugs for the same price if you looked hard enough. Again, I have no problem with building this up and seeing what it's capable of, frankly I think it's neat. However, you might be pushing past the point of diminishing returns.
    Hikernks, If you knew bighit, like we know bighit, you would realize you have missed the point (if there is one).

    Hint: He did this so you don't have to... vb
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    So much for the 48 pound turd (paraphrase) comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloborealis View Post
    Hikernks, If you knew bighit, like we know bighit, you would realize you have missed the point (if there is one).

    Hint: He did this so you don't have to... vb
    I'm waiting to see his chopper version of it....

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    He he. I must admit to having a sissy bar and ape hangers on mine already.

    All the parts I used were from my stock. I didn't spend a cent on this bike, yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    So much for the 48 pound turd (paraphrase) comments.
    You mean a $200, 48 pound turd. For someone that had to go out and buy those tires, now it's a $500+ bike. Even with the cheaper of the light tire offerings it would nearly double the cost of the bike. Once someone like Trek puts out a "respectable" $799 fat bike they will own the mountain biking segment. I'll bet they would sell a boat load of bikes to the "serious" bikers here not willing to spend north of $1500 on a bike they aren't sure will see much use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    "serious" bikers here not willing to spend north of $1500 on a bike they aren't sure will see much use.
    You're not a "serious" biker if you think that way, a new bike (any new bike) is just an excuse to fill up another slot in the garage. Fill the garage? Build a bigger garage....
    This is a Pugs not some carbon wannabee pretzel wagon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MendonCycleSmith View Post
    You're not a "serious" biker if you think that way, a new bike (any new bike) is just an excuse to fill up another slot in the garage. Fill the garage? Build a bigger garage....
    So true. We don't have a garage or room on our property or room to build one, so my limit is three bikes, which is a good or bad thing depending on your view. I recently asked a friend how many bikes he had and his answer was "uh... 13.... I think." As far as the "serious" comment goes, I think most people on a forum full of avid cyclists willing to shell out $200, knowing the quality, limitations of the design, and possible headaches of buying a Walmart bike would easily shell out a few hundred more for a fully capable fat bike to fill that slot in the garage.

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    I was lookin at this for the one I'm making, They also make one thats 150 and 170 wide. Standard width just longer shaft. I wonder if it will fit inthe goose. I doubt it as the goose is already wide on the shell.


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    Bighit - I just about spit my coffee out when I read the stock tires are pushing 3000g nearly 6.5 lbs EACH. Again, no complaints with a $200 price point but oly-moley.

    The Origin8 Devist8er 4.0 clocks in at around 2000g - and at $35 for a steel bead fattie I went for it. Those along with a 100mm x 1 1/8 quill stem (*25.4) pushes my total cost pert-near $300 while slowly shaving the lbs.

    Everything should be arriving over the next few days so my red-beast should be on the road by nxt week.

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    geezus those're heavy tires!!
    ah well, still the most fun 200$ should net you!

    so, who here's old enough to remember how peeps shaved weight off their gazzis back in the day?
    I remember someone saying they actually shaved (or sanded?) the sidewalls of their gazzis as there's a ton of extra rubber on there, can we do that with these lumpy mothers?

    GO BIGHIT GO!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    You mean a $200, 48 pound turd. For someone that had to go out and buy those tires, now it's a $500+ bike. Even with the cheaper of the light tire offerings it would nearly double the cost of the bike. Once someone like Trek puts out a "respectable" $799 fat bike they will own the mountain biking segment. I'll bet they would sell a boat load of bikes to the "serious" bikers here not willing to spend north of $1500 on a bike they aren't sure will see much use.
    So in your mind, weight is related to price, and you'll overlook the aspect of other tires in the 26x4.0 range being way over priced.

    Ahh,
    The value of marketing.
    Complain about a $200 bike, but ignore the idea that a set of bike tires cost more than most people pay to put 4 tires on a car.

    Car tires are heavy ... Therefore they should cost less

    Would this bike be selling, if the tires cost more than the rest of the bike ?
    NO !!!
    Would this bike be selling if the price was $500 ?
    NO !!

    But I gotta admit ... $800 is about what a steel frame FB from oh, say ... Surley ... Should be selling for.

    The days of the EXOTIC ($$$$) FatBike are almost over.
    Look at the rest of the market.
    Look at the amount of material in a FB compared to a std. MTB ... Double the rubber, double the aluminum in the rims.
    Everything else is a moot point.

    Bring on the mass-marketed FatBike

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    So true. We don't have a garage or room on our property or room to build one, so my limit is three bikes, which is a good or bad thing depending on your view. I recently asked a friend how many bikes he had and his answer was "uh... 13.... I think." As far as the "serious" comment goes, I think most people on a forum full of avid cyclists willing to shell out $200, knowing the quality, limitations of the design, and possible headaches of buying a Walmart bike would easily shell out a few hundred more for a fully capable fat bike to fill that slot in the garage.
    'Tis True !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    So in your mind, weight is related to price, and you'll overlook the aspect of other tires in the 26x4.0 range being way over priced.
    You're reading too much into it. Believe me, I understand the niche market/low production = higher cost thing, but I did not like bending over to order a pair of Nates. That just seemed obscene to me, but right now that's the only choice if I wanted an aggressive tire that weighs 1300-1400 grams. Although I imagine my tires will last years, I welcome the arrival of high quality fat tires at a reasonable price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithcreek View Post
    You're reading too much into it. Believe me, I understand the niche market/low production = higher cost thing, but I did not like bending over to order a pair of Nates. That just seemed obscene to me, but right now that's the only choice if I wanted an aggressive tire that weighs 1300-1400 grams. Although I imagine my tires will last years, I welcome the arrival of high quality fat tires at a reasonable price.
    Sorry ... Just in a mood over the Walmart GooseLander (That's what I'm gonna call the red one when it arrives).

    Maybe I'll paint it GOLD

    Keeping an eye out for some Devist8r's as I write ... ETA = Found $35 each
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    I was lookin at this for the one I'm making, They also make one thats 150 and 170 wide. Standard width just longer shaft. I wonder if it will fit inthe goose. I doubt it as the goose is already wide on the shell.


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    FYi, my neighbors goose was scratched up from shipping, walmart is sending him a totally new bike in box. Eventually he is supposed to take it to the store near us to return it. He's gonna see how long it takes em too calland pester him to return it. Hopefully he'll end up with a 2 for 1 deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpy69 View Post
    FYi, my neighbors goose was scratched up from shipping, walmart is sending him a totally new bike in box. Eventually he is supposed to take it to the store near us to return it. He's gonna see how long it takes em too calland pester him to return it. Hopefully he'll end up with a 2 for 1 deal.
    i figure i will do worse first club ride. im gonna do a Jim Thorp 50 mi Rails to trails ride on it.
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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    Well lets call a beast a beast. Its $200 and it certainly isnt my moonlander. But its a great bike and im totally happy. I bought mine to cruise and have fun on so time to sticker bomb!Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast-imageuploadedbytapatalk1365163362.247593.jpgBighits 37lb Mongoose Beast-imageuploadedbytapatalk1365163379.362754.jpg
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    Haha, nice decals !
    (especially the Surly one.)

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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    Big thanks to you for them. This ought to freak out the straights.

    Ok i got the cranks off and they are boat anchors! 500 grams heavier then the coda ones going on.

    I also have a 22t rear cog. Im going 22/32. Stay tuned to the underground!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    The days of the EXOTIC ($$$$) FatBike are almost over.
    Holy crap are you a fool. Yeah... the days of quality bikes are over... just like when Target and Walmart started selling 29ers, Niner bikes went out of business and all the other 29er manufacturers. You confuse "exotic" (which is a twat description anyway) with quality, purpose-built bikes. Sorry you are living under a bridge and refuse to see 90% of MTBR is about QUALITY BIKES... not this...

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    I love that you threw the green Brooks saddle on there... half the cost of the new bike right there

    Lock the saddle up at least!

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    YEP ... Fixated.

    Cost per mile of FUN seems to be a problem.

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    Ah, the super stable REVERSE FORK!
    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Holy crap are you a fool. Yeah... the days of quality bikes are over... just like when Target and Walmart started selling 29ers, Niner bikes went out of business and all the other 29er manufacturers. You confuse "exotic" (which is a twat description anyway) with quality, purpose-built bikes. Sorry you are living under a bridge and refuse to see 90% of MTBR is about QUALITY BIKES... not this...

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    Have we heard of anyone riding one of these on singletrack yet? Yes, Duggus, I know, if someone did, they would probably die. So, I guess what I mean to ask is "Have we heard of anyone SURVIVING a ride on singletrack on one of these?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    YEP ... Fixated.

    Cost per mile of FUN seems to be a problem.

    I do not believe that math is your strongpoint. I've spent an obscene amount of money on my Fatback. And I have thousands of miles on it. If you get 398mi on your Beast, you'll still be behind on the fun per mile cost. And you'd never be able to ride that claptrap on the sweet trails we rolled last night. Which means, it's just another pavement pounder and you're missing out on what fat bikes are actually capable of doing. It's just delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    Have we heard of anyone riding one of these on singletrack yet? Yes, Duggus, I know, if someone did, they would probably die. So, I guess what I mean to ask is "Have we heard of anyone SURVIVING a ride on singletrack on one of these?"
    I've got two single track rides under my belt. I'll try to get some video this weekend to give a better idea on what we have to work with. snow is melting too quick

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    Sweet looking mods. I think the bike is screaming out for a unique cut out pattern in the rims w/ some interesting rim strips.

    I was tempted (but resisted) buying a Walmart Fatty just for the chance to practice just this procedure.

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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    Ok 32 coda compact crank with a 22 rear cog. I feel this will spin nice given the weight. Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast-imageuploadedbytapatalk1365210109.351519.jpgBighits 37lb Mongoose Beast-imageuploadedbytapatalk1365210129.167428.jpg
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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    i replaced the stock chain for good measure.

    And retired my moonie winter pedals to this bike. They are a tad thick for off road.

    32/22 is perfect
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    now you've gone and made it look good enough to steal...

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    Nice....
    I hope to get me one in a coupla weeks...if they're not sold out.Not completely sure what color yet though...
    I might wanna put front brakes on it...and I'm not sure if I can use coaster brakes with my prosthetic foot.Gotta figure some brakes out.
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    Bighits 37lb Mongoose Beast

    Well i figured out my mysterious wheel flop.
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    We tried to bend it back but couldnt.

    I contacted goose about a new fork and now i got a new one sitting in my basement ready to go. A whole new bike that is.

    Thats Customer service .
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    It is interesting that they didn't take the time to create a replacement part structure. Anything they can do to saved money

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    That can be fixed with a Harley-Davidson service tool.

    A very large hammer.
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