• 05-13-2012
    Dr Feelygood !
    Have a look here it may give you some ideas :)

    chainstay | Buy Now at ChainReactionCycles.com
  • 05-13-2012
    DavidJohn
    Best chainstay protection?
    I'm just about to pick up my new Moonlander and I was wondering what's the best chainstay protector to get to avoid chain damage to the paint on the chain stay and also keep it quiet in the rough.

    DJ
  • 05-13-2012
    Flying-Monkey
    I did the inner tube mod. I cut a section of an old tube, and used 4 zip ties to hold it in place. I've only been on one ride with it, but it seems to be holding up well enough...



    A picture from that ride...

  • 05-13-2012
    ozzybmx
    I got a clear gel "stick on" one for my MukLuk, so far so good but time will tell. It definately adds to the look regardless.
  • 05-13-2012
    vikb
    There are loads of options that all work to protect the chainstay. The main difference between the DIY/free options [inner tube/electrical tape] and the ones you buy [lizard skins] is just how they look and the price.
  • 05-13-2012
    pjbaz
    I use an inner tube on all my MTB- I wrap it like bar tape and secure the end with some electrical tape. Works great
  • 05-13-2012
    apbtlvr
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    Kind of partial to this one...
  • 05-13-2012
    druidh
    Here's a better way of using an old innertube.



    I usually start at the drop-out end and end with a couple of zip-ties behind the chainrings. Just wrap it nice and tight and it'll keep all water and grit/sand/mud out.

    The problem with those velcro-closed ones is that they get very contaminated underneath, so if you are using one, take it off frequently for cleaning.
  • 05-13-2012
    SmooveP
    The Lizard Skins are nice cuz they're easy to install/remove when needed.
  • 05-13-2012
    Shark
    I just used some orange electrical tape. Keeps the paint from getting chipped up, def does not help with the noise though.
  • 05-13-2012
    sasquatch rides a SS
    For a very tough chainstay protector use a piece of a folding road bike tire cut to length. Cut holes every inch or so on each side and weave paracord or something similar through it like you would lace up a boot. Looks tough and I bet it'll last quite a while.
  • 05-13-2012
    Flying-Monkey
    I like that idea SS.

    I wonder if a hole punch would be tough enough to do the job...
  • 05-15-2012
    KrateKraig
    At my favorite FatBike bike shop, they were cutting up an old Endomorph and zipping it to the stay. Might be too heavy for weight weenies, but it sure looks cool!
  • 05-22-2012
    Colo Springs E
    On a related note... chainstay protectors, why? Not meaning to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. I've never noticed any excessive wear in that area on my bikes in the past (before they became so prevalent) and even if there are scratches and stuff there... I guess that doesn't really bother me, I get that all over my mountain bikes anyway.

    Do some just like the look?
  • 05-22-2012
    patineto
    Mister Tuffy wrap


    Self vulcanizing tape.



    Tons of Examples here
  • 05-22-2012
    sasquatch rides a SS
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Colo Springs E View Post
    On a related note... chainstay protectors, why? Not meaning to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. I've never noticed any excessive wear in that area on my bikes in the past (before they became so prevalent) and even if there are scratches and stuff there... I guess that doesn't really bother me, I get that all over my mountain bikes anyway.

    Do some just like the look?

    I'd say there is a lot to it. It's all personal preference. Some may like the look of a chainstay protector, some may not. Some may like the look of a beat up, used bike with lots of character...some may not. One thing I can say is that a bike will sell much easier with a spotless driveside chainstay, so some may be preserving what they can in hopes of getting a higher resale value. The amount of wear from chainslap also determines if the rider wants to protect their frame or not. Someone who rides a lot and rides on very rough terrain may choose to protect their frame over others. I do not have any chainstay protection on my singlespeed because, well, my singlespeed chain never touches the frame. However, on my Stumpjumper FSR I have a chainstay protector, but it is the stock one. I would probably put one on even if it didn't come with one just because it is quieter. The chain on rubber contact is quieter than chain on frame. I think it all boils down to just plain ol' personal preference really.
  • 05-22-2012
    vikb
    I had a MTB that didn't have a chainstay protector on it and the driveside chainstay took a beating. A lot of paint was removed and it looked heinous. The damage wasn't structural, but I didn't like looking at it so I've used chainstay protectors on my bikes since then.

    If you have a delicate frame [carbon fiber] the damage could result in some serious problems. Otherwise it's just aesthetic. So in most cases it's only a problem it you care about a chipped/beat up chainstay.
  • 05-22-2012
    sasquatch rides a SS
    Sometimes the weight weenies won't run them for the obvious concern...weight. But they don't really count anyway ;)
  • 05-22-2012
    Colo Springs E
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I'd say there is a lot to it. It's all personal preference. Some may like the look of a chainstay protector, some may not. Some may like the look of a beat up, used bike with lots of character...some may not. One thing I can say is that a bike will sell much easier with a spotless driveside chainstay, so some may be preserving what they can in hopes of getting a higher resale value. The amount of wear from chainslap also determines if the rider wants to protect their frame or not. Someone who rides a lot and rides on very rough terrain may choose to protect their frame over others. I do not have any chainstay protection on my singlespeed because, well, my singlespeed chain never touches the frame. However, on my Stumpjumper FSR I have a chainstay protector, but it is the stock one. I would probably put one on even if it didn't come with one just because it is quieter. The chain on rubber contact is quieter than chain on frame. I think it all boils down to just plain ol' personal preference really.

    Got it, makes sense.
  • 05-22-2012
    sasquatch rides a SS
    Just my .02 :)
  • 05-22-2012
    Tripp88
    I use the free neoprane one that came in the wrapper with a Bike mag. Works like a champ
  • 11-20-2012
    TheHeartwoodStudio
    Possible to just use some electrical tape and hockey tape? I'm a noobie looking to protect ;d
  • 11-20-2012
    patineto
    A new one on my blue 9zero7, double safety wire next to the bottom bracket shell since zip ties are not that long lasting


  • 11-20-2012
    SeaBass_
    Or go Singlespeed.;)
  • 11-20-2012
    sasquatch rides a SS
    I wouldn't suggest electrical tape because its not very thick/protective and you'll never get all of that sticky residue off your frame. Same with hockey tape, it's just a bit thicker than electrical tape.
  • 11-20-2012
    mtbxplorer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Colo Springs E View Post
    On a related note... chainstay protectors, why? Not meaning to be argumentative, just genuinely curious. I've never noticed any excessive wear in that area on my bikes in the past (before they became so prevalent) and even if there are scratches and stuff there... I guess that doesn't really bother me, I get that all over my mountain bikes anyway.

    Do some just like the look?

    Wow, in New England, even road bike chainstays take a beating in a short time.
    My shop did a nice tube chainstay wrap on the fatbike with an old tube, but it got all weird and fuzzy. I can't be sure, but it seemed like this was after beach (saltwater) riding, I think it still looked pretty good after snowriding season, even with some salted road sections. I got another neoprene/velcro one, and so far, so good.
  • 11-20-2012
    kreater
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS View Post
    I wouldn't suggest electrical tape because its not very thick/protective and you'll never get all of that sticky residue off your frame. Same with hockey tape, it's just a bit thicker than electrical tape.

    i like using 3M Mastik 2200 series tape. thick protective and sticks to itself and anything you wrap.
  • 11-20-2012
    rumblestrip
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    The Lizard Skins are nice cuz they're easy to install/remove when needed.

    +1 I like them too. I know there are bunch of really good DIY solutions but sometimes I just want someone else to just do it for me. :D
  • 11-21-2012
    russmu66
    +1 for the self vulcanising tape or as we call it self-emulsifying tape. Nice and thick, bonds well and no residue when you eventually remove it.
  • 11-21-2012
    nvphatty
    I use the 1" loop material from velcro that has the adhesive backing. :thumbsup:
  • 11-21-2012
    Velobike
    Best protection is singlespeed or hubgear. :)
  • 11-21-2012
    Scottytheoneandonly
    I do the innertube mod on all my bikes. I use electrical tape at each end of the wrap. works like a charm.
  • 11-21-2012
    damnitman
    shoo goo
  • 11-21-2012
    Raul34
    +1 on the tube and electrical tape. I do it on both sides so when big rocks flip up and bash it it's protected. I've had it happen a couple times and I think to myself I'm glad I did it. Been on for 6 months and through a lot and is still holding up just fine.

    The velcro ones get loose, full of sand, mud and debris and grinds around in there.

  • 11-21-2012
    TheHeartwoodStudio
    I'm probably going to buy some self-vulcanizing tape by 3M. It's like $5.47 with prime on amazon. Even one of the reviews on it said that's what they were using it for and that it can do up to 3 bikes. That happens to be perfect, because me, my sister and my dad are all planning on getting new bikes. :thumbsup:
  • 11-21-2012
    patineto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TheHeartwoodStudio View Post
    I'm probably going to buy some self-vulcanizing tape by 3M. It's like $5.47 with prime on amazon. Even one of the reviews on it said that's what they were using it for and that it can do up to 3 bikes. That happens to be perfect, because me, my sister and my dad are all planning on getting new bikes. :thumbsup:

    The Vulcanize tape works really well, specially with complex shapes since is very flexible & stretchy, but is not as strong as the tuffy's (in case chainsuck happens)


    Ps congratulations on the new bikes.
  • 11-21-2012
    TheHeartwoodStudio
    Thanks! I've ordered the Motobecane 450HT white (plan to upgrade parts on it later on), and the black vulcanizing tape will look nice on it. I think my sister is planning on getting a Diamondback (white aswell). They'll get dirty quickly I'm sure, but hey thats half the fun.
  • 11-21-2012
    fondoo
    lizard skins also works great. i have it on my wifes trek bike
  • 11-21-2012
    Tincup69
    I use Lizard Skins and like them.
  • 11-21-2012
    shoo
    pro-tecto
    Mine will not work on complex shapes, it will not work on big tubes but it works great on Fatbacks. I have always like to repurpose things and in this case old road tubulars work well on smaller diameter frames and Cyclocross tubulars work good on some fatter frames.
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  • 11-21-2012
    JoeG
    Scotch 2228 Moisture Sealing (Self amalgamating) electrical tape is usually available at Lowes and Home Depot. MBA did an article, cut and paste this and delete the extra spaces (I'm too new to be able to post links yet).

    http : // www . mbaction . com/Main/News/Tech_Tip_Silencing_Your_Ride_5043.aspx]Tech Tip: Silencing Your Ride | News | mountain-bike-action
  • 11-22-2012
    bjfalken
    just as good as singlespeed is Sram Type 2. and to a lesser extent, Shimano Shadow Plus. seriously, i don't know why there aren't any clutch deraileurs on here ever
  • 11-22-2012
    trhoppe
    Best I've seen so far is heat shrink tubing. Looks super pro, and is cheap. $15 for ~3 applications.

    http://www.amazon.com/Install-Bay-He...d_sim_indust_5
  • 11-22-2012
    patineto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trhoppe View Post
    Best I've seen so far is heat shrink tubing. Looks super pro, and is cheap. $15 for ~3 applications.

    Amazon.com: Install Bay Heat Shrink 1 Inch x 4 Foot: Car Electronics

    I think your are missing the most important part, how to "Stick it" into the chainstay passing by the drop outs :madman:

    And even then the thickness of the material varies if you have anything different than round/oval tubes, anything with corners like a square tube will have very little material at the edge of the corner and more on the flat parts making it weaker..
  • 11-22-2012
    natzx7
    Like some others have said, I like the 2228 tape.
    1 in. x 10 ft. 2228 Rubber Mastic Electrical Tape-50727-BA-5 at The Home Depot
    As I recall it comes in a shorter roll for about 5 bucks or so. I don't care for the Velcro type, they trap so much dirt underneath,and it grinds on the chainstay.
  • 11-22-2012
    trhoppe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patineto View Post
    I think your are missing the most important part, how to "Stick it" into the chainstay passing by the drop outs :madman:

    And even then the thickness of the material varies if you have anything different than round/oval tubes, anything with corners like a square tube will have very little material at the edge of the corner and more on the flat parts making it weaker..

    Oh :lol: I forgot, my bikes have the Split Pivot/APB setup so that's why it works.
  • 11-22-2012
    patineto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trhoppe View Post
    Oh :lol: I forgot, my bikes have the Split Pivot/APB setup so that's why it works.

    Cool show us pictures I want to see..
  • 11-27-2012
    patineto
    Actually if you want to go really extreme how about a "Thermoform" guard (not thermoset-aka epoxi resin, etc)

    A little history, the "seat stays" on my Nicolai M-pire keep touching my hells (very wide 165mm rear end) so I decide to make some really tough guards for them.

    Notice the 3mm 3M material on the left chainstay.


    Sorry I don't have better pictures and/or details.


    I only have a few pieces of this awesome material left, if not I will have it in most of my frames.
  • 11-27-2012
    Cycle Logical
    Cut up an old knobby mtn bike tire, wrap it, and use zip ties to hold it in place. Looks pretty cool in the end.
  • 11-28-2012
    AC/BC
    Strip of raw hide.

    They sell raw hide by the pound at Axe Man (CHEAP)

    Use scissors to cut them accordantly. wipsh!
  • 11-28-2012
    nvphatty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    Strip of raw hide.

    They sell raw hide by the pound at Axe Man (CHEAP)

    Use scissors to cut them accordantly. wipsh!

    does it come in a rainbow of colors though??
  • 11-28-2012
    AC/BC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    does it come in a rainbow of colors though??

    You can dye rawhide or paint it just like shoe leather.
  • 11-28-2012
    nvphatty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AC/BC View Post
    You can dye rawhide or paint it just like shoe leather.

    yippy tie yai aye!!
  • 02-18-2013
    Trilancing
    On a derailleur bike, does the entire stay need to be wrapped, or does just the top of the stay need to be protected?

    I'm wondering if the bottom of the stay ever gets slapped, since the rear derailleur puts that part of the chain further away.

    I'm thinking about cutting up a tire, but then what about that plastic electrical wire tubing stuff? On the back of server cabinets, they'll combine cabling in this tubular sheath, for organization, and then zip-tie it shut. It's plastic, but the ridges could act like shock absorbers and should flex enough to protect the frame, but I guess it wouldn't be air/water tight and muck could get in there.
  • 02-18-2013
    nvphatty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trilancing View Post
    On a derailleur bike, does the entire stay need to be wrapped, or does just the top of the stay need to be protected?

    I'm wondering if the bottom of the stay ever gets slapped, since the rear derailleur puts that part of the chain further away

    Personal preference really as the top has the most potential to get chain rub etc it would be wise to atleast cover it.
  • 02-18-2013
    patineto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trilancing View Post
    On a derailleur bike, does the entire stay need to be wrapped, or does just the top of the stay need to be protected?

    I'm wondering if the bottom of the stay ever gets slapped, since the rear derailleur puts that part of the chain further away.

    If you get "chain suck" you will need protection on the side of the chainstay and sometimes also the bottom side.
  • 02-18-2013
    Harvie
    Scotch 2228 tape thicker than inner tubes and once wraped its there for good.....

    Home Depot/Lowes 9 bucks
  • 02-18-2013
    JoeG
    Scotch 2228

    +1
  • 10-29-2013
    Shakey Jake
    So I'm thinking that I dye up some rawhide to look like bacon. That's gonna fix it.

    Jake
  • 10-29-2013
    OFFcourse
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    It amazes me how fugly some people manage to make an inner tube look on a chainstay.

    Attachment 842756
  • 03-31-2014
    dtaylor
    have seen this cable wrap on many mtb's

    Cable Wrap from Estco Enterprises

    dave
  • 03-31-2014
    NYrr496
    After I finish trimming the excess tube between the tire and rim while doing ghetto tubless, I use the 1" strip on the chainstay. Looks awesome.
  • 03-31-2014
    Bearhunter
    Best chainstay protection?
    I am using rubber splicing tape. You can pick it up at any hardware store.

  • 03-31-2014
    patineto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bearhunter View Post
    I am using rubber splicing tape. You can pick it up at any hardware store.


    I have also used "self vulcanizing" tape instead of the typical "mister tuffy" on certain ones of my bikes it works really well with square or sharp edges since it conforms to them quite easily.
  • 03-31-2014
    Bearhunter
    Best chainstay protection?
    Yeah I like it a lot. On separate note, I really like what you did to your 9zero7.
  • 03-31-2014
    patineto
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bearhunter View Post
    Yeah I like it a lot. On separate note, I really like what you did to your 9zero7.

    Thanks here is one more of the Orange's on my WTB Phoenix, sadly I have not found anymore of that color and shape in many years of searching, Tuffy's suck anyway as tire puncture protection..


    Attachment 881625
  • 04-01-2014
    mtbxplorer
    My LBS did a lovely inner tube wrap when they built the bike, but it got weird and fuzzy, I think from salt water.
  • 04-01-2014
    digidelia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bearhunter View Post
    I am using rubber splicing tape. You can pick it up at any hardware store.


    a little off topic, but can you post shots/info of your rear rack setup? i'm in the market for one for my fatboy. thanks!
  • 04-01-2014
    Bearhunter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by digidelia View Post
    a little off topic, but can you post shots/info of your rear rack setup? i'm in the market for one for my fatboy. thanks!

    Here you go, I did this a few days ago.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/omm...oy-906068.html

    Since that posting I have been talking with Channing from OMM and he will be refining the "fatboy rack package". He is aware that the Fatboy requires larger band clamps (if using the alternate method of mounting as described in the thread linked above).

    I also have some mud shovels enroute, and the plan is to mount them between the tire and rack. OMM siad they would send larger lower brackets if the rack needs to be raised to accomodate.
  • 04-01-2014
    Anthem1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bjfalken View Post
    just as good as singlespeed is Sram Type 2. and to a lesser extent, Shimano Shadow Plus. seriously, i don't know why there aren't any clutch deraileurs on here ever

    This, treat the cause not the symptom.
  • 04-08-2015
    ADKMTNBIKER
    I just used some old clear, vinyl tubing I had laying around. I don't have a camera right now, but will post a pic. in a couple of days.
  • 04-08-2015
    blockphi
    I go bare. I don't trust a biker whose bike is immaculate. Paint chips and scrapes, mismatched wheels, saddles patched with duct tape, grips that are worn smooth - these are what I expect to see on a bike. Not pristine paint and shiny parts.

    Or get a clutch der to keep the chain from slapping to begin with as others have said.
  • 04-08-2015
    2:01
    I've always just used an old tube as the base layer, then a quick wrap with hockey tape. Easy and cheap.
  • 04-08-2015
    03'Darin
    Here's another vote for the scotch brand thick electrical tape. Stretches nicely so it applies exceptionally well as the chain stay diameter changes. Also is thick so it absorbs impacts well. I did the entire chain stay on the drive side and a few inches on the non drive side where my heel sometimes hits. A few months in and it still looks like I just installed it.
  • 04-08-2015
    BansheeRune
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    The good ole grip tape cs protector...cleanliness ftw...
  • 04-09-2015
    blue_biker
    I just use a good clutched dérailleur
  • 04-09-2015
    BansheeRune
    The only bike in my fleet that has a clutch type rd is my fatty.

    Looks like I need another 10 of the bastards...
  • 04-15-2015
    herder
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 03'Darin View Post
    Here's another vote for the scotch brand thick electrical tape. Stretches nicely so it applies exceptionally well as the chain stay diameter changes. Also is thick so it absorbs impacts well. I did the entire chain stay on the drive side and a few inches on the non drive side where my heel sometimes hits. A few months in and it still looks like I just installed it.

    Which one is it exactly?


    My bike is white with red so I would like to find something decent on one of those colors. Plus I got the cable running along it and it comes up right onto the bottom of the chainstay.