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    Best bang-for-the-buck upgrade?

    Say you've got 3-500 bucks to spend on upgrades for a pugsley. Say you've already replaced everything but the front derailleur, the wheels and tires, and the fork.

    Do you go with better/lighter tires? Never had a problem with the stock tires, but some of the new tire options do look pretty sweet...

    Lighter wheels/rims? A set of Marge lites would be pretty nice.

    Carver O'beast fork? Because carbon.

    Or is there something I've missed?

    Drivetrain is pretty much where I want it, bars, shifters, brake levers, saddle, post, etc, all good. Thought about upgrading to hydraulic brakes but can't see any major benefit.

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    rims/tires would be my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    rims/tires would be my choice.
    +1 on this one.
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    Although tires would be the most noticeable I think long term going to Rolling D. rim's is the way. Let the best tire for your needs rise to the top of the new heap of choices while you get the rim's now.
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    Rims and tires are the only things worth upgrading. The fork isn't going to make you any faster.

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    Maybe go with a IGH ?

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    Number 1 for me would be going to lighter and/or wider rims. Holy Rolling Ds are what i put on my Pugsley, but my heart belongs to the 100mm rims.
    Number 2 would be tires. Although i don't hate the endomorphs or larry's like some folks do, i like other tires better. On my pugsley i had big fat larrys but if it had an Alfine 8 speed so it cleared the wider tires.
    Number 3 would be an alfine hub. I really like the alfine when things get slushy or salty.

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    IGH is right out. I like my drivetrain the way it is.

    My goals are mostly lighter weight without any loss of strength- I still want to be able to ride singletrack in the summer...

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    If you are still running Large Marge's you will be amazed when you switch to Marge Lites. Best place to put your money and lose weight.

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    Depends on your use of the bike. It could be anything from a GPS to a dropper seatpost. Probably wheels though, which ones depends...

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    If you're running DH thick n'stable tubes, you might save a few grams by switching to lighter tubes. Bontragers from Fatbikes.com for example.

    Or carbon seat post and a carbon bar to give more comfort?

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    best and cheapest is to drill your rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozz View Post
    best and cheapest is to drill your rims
    'cept there's no way I could get nearly as light drilling out a pair of stock LM-DH rims as I could replacing them with marge lites...

    Looks like rims is the way to go, followed by tires.

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    Is there even a market for the stock large marge wheel set? I wonder what the cost differential would be upgrading to marge kites after selling the LMs

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    I've been wondering same thing for my Muk 3. I don't have Buck's budget at the moment, but am considering drilling my RD's and installing DH tubes. Based on what I've read on MTBR threads, as well as using tube weights published on fatbikes.com, I figure:

    Drilling RD's: saves roughly 150 grams/wheel = 300g
    Switching to Bonti DH tubes: saves about 160/wheel = 320g

    total savings = about 1.4lbs rolling weight

    1) Does this sound right?
    2) I've not tried DH tubes...if I run my Muk at between 7-10 psi with standard fat tubes, will the DH tubes serve me well? (e.g. sufficient size to hold my weight?...I'm 210 or so).

    Thanks

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    Hopefully the spokes are still the right length it could be an easy swap to Marge Lites, if not they are only $80 from jenson's for Revo's.
    BTW Jenson price matched the cheapest price for Marge lites i could find at the time at $136us.

    Going this way and even possibly with lighter spokes will save the the most weight in the best place possible.
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    Put your bucks in a sock untill you now what you want???

    Marge lites are nice, but if it's for trail riding the 47 mm trial tech rims might be better?
    But maybe you need more float? or a 29'er set??

    You might profit more from a front suspension? A seat dropper, other brakes,..

    In 2 years time bud and lou on 100 mm rims might seem tiny, and you'll want to go 32" and 6" wide, but you spended your budget on a few upgrades on your old bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing's impossible View Post
    Put your bucks in a sock untill you now what you want???

    Marge lites are nice, but if it's for trail riding the 47 mm trial tech rims might be better?
    But maybe you need more float? or a 29'er set??

    You might profit more from a front suspension? A seat dropper, other brakes,..

    In 2 years time bud and lou on 100 mm rims might seem tiny, and you'll want to go 32" and 6" wide, but you spended your budget on a few upgrades on your old bike!
    I'm totally happy with the width of the large marge rims- they seem like a really good balance for what I do with the bike. I just want the bike to weigh less.

    Have had no need for a front suspension, seat dropper or brakes. THe trails around me aren't that vertical.

    I pretty much know what i want- a lighter pugsley. That's why I'm looking at trying to get rid of weight. Lighter wheels, fork and tires are about all that's left for me to lighten up. Doubt it will make earth-shatteringly huge differences in the way the bike rides, but that's OK because I like the way my pugsley rides. Just wish it was a few pounds less.

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    I'm totally happy with the width of the large marge rims- they seem like a really good balance for what I do with the bike. I just want the bike to weigh less.
    Hey Buck, for what it's worth, the weight difference between my winter wheelset (stock Mukluk wheelset w/holy rolling darryls, salsa hubs, 27tpi nates, tubeless) and my summer wheelset (marge lites, ultralight nate/husker du, hope hubs, dt supercomp spokes) is almost 3.5lbs. The only problem I can see is realistically getting there for $500 even lacing them up yourself (I did), all those parts add up in a hurry. Maybe with some dedicated deal searching you could get close but might have to skip the hubs/spokes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    Hey Buck, for what it's worth, the weight difference between my winter wheelset (stock Mukluk wheelset w/holy rolling darryls, salsa hubs, 27tpi nates, tubeless) and my summer wheelset (marge lites, ultralight nate/husker du, hope hubs, dt supercomp spokes) is almost 3.5lbs. The only problem I can see is realistically getting there for $500 even lacing them up yourself (I did), all those parts add up in a hurry. Maybe with some dedicated deal searching you could get close but might have to skip the hubs/spokes...
    Totally understand- figure I can re-rim my current wheels or build up a new set for 3-500 depending on the quality of hubs I can find at the swap in january, then get new tires next spring when they'll make a difference- the stock tire combo is heavy, but it's not bad.

    I kinda figured I could do one thing- fork, tires or rims, but only one.

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    I think one of the best upgrades for your dollar is the cassette. Not many people talk about this. I think I saved close to a pound of rotating mass when I swapped out the "boat anchor" of a cassette that came stock on my Mukluk 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmaxx4 View Post
    I think one of the best upgrades for your dollar is the cassette. Not many people talk about this. I think I saved close to a pound of rotating mass when I swapped out the "boat anchor" of a cassette that came stock on my Mukluk 2.
    what came stock and what was the replacement?

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    Lighter tubes and holey rims. Get a hacksaw and cut off the surplus on your seatpost - anything more than the minimum insertion is surplus. Foam grips instead of lockons. So far, cost next to nothing, and major weight saving.

    Next lighter tyres.

    Then lots of money on shiny bits because they look nice and save 10 grams all up.

    Rest to be spent on a barrel of beer....




    Oh, and you can save another 40gms by bonding your seatpost into place and dumping the seatclamp.
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    the best bang for buck weight savings if I had $500.....and your bike...

    #1 - buy carver fork ($300) sell old fork ($50) = 250
    #2 - sell old rims ($100) buy marge lites ($300) = 50
    #3 - buy ashima rotors ($50) = 0

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    Best bang for the buck? Easy, lighter tubes

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