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    ...affordability helps acceptance...

    If Huffy made an airplane, would you fly in it?

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    Interesting, and wondering why companies with prototypes are claiming that 190mm is the new standard.
    Sell a few bikes, and cause the other manufacturers of FB's to switch over to 190mm, and then I'll believe it.

    The front disc spacing seems to be the odd-ball among the standards that are out there.
    Does this mean their front hub won't work with a non-Yampa fork unless an adapter is used ?

    IMO, way to many standards exist, as each company that produces something, claims their design is the new standard.

    When HOPE starts making a 190mm hub, then I'll believe it's a standard

    But hey ... Borealis ... It is another option to get wider.

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    Well, it's not like 190mm was introduced on a whim, or just to be different. It's really the only way to get a symmetrical wheel with clearance for the widest tires and a full drivetrain. I don't understand the objection to new "standards". It's not like it makes whatever you're currently riding obsolete.

    Affordable? I guess. It's about the same price as a Hope Fatsno hubset.

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    15mm thru axles..

    They can make the frames as stiff as they want, ill still never notice with 4 inches of tire deflection

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Well, it's not like 190mm was introduced on a whim, or just to be different. It's really the only way to get a symmetrical wheel with clearance for the widest tires and a full drivetrain. I don't understand the objection to new "standards". It's not like it makes whatever you're currently riding obsolete.

    Affordable? I guess. It's about the same price as a Hope Fatsno hubset.
    I understand the reasons, and it's not an objection ... It's the idea that it's being called a standard, when you can't buy it from a big name manufacturer of hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    When HOPE starts making a 190mm hub, then I'll believe it's a standard

    Totally agree.

    I'm not complaining though, options are good. Really when you look at other bike parts/companies, there are plenty of proprietary parts out there. Better than no options at all.

    It is nice when things are able to be converted though, like Hope front hubs, swap out end caps & go from 9mm QR, QR15, 20mm, 24mm Mav.
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    Whether it is truly a "standard", or just common for the two core/early/big-name frame makers (FatBack and 9Zero7) and now a "core" graphite frame (Borealis WHOA BABY!!!!!!!)........

    190 make sense to me from a drivetrain/symetrical-wheel standpoint.

    The adaptation of a thru-axle front Hub on the Borealis (WHOA BABY!!!!!!!) is fatbike-innovation, without question.

    Affordability? What's in your wallet? D

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    What's in your wallet? D
    nuttin huny!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    nuttin huny!!
    Cough it up, cheapskate.
    Be a one-man stimulus plan!

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    ^^Stimulus................
    Cash for clunkers should have been extended to the Wal-mart brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    ^^Stimulus................
    Cash for clunkers should have been extended to the Wal-mart brand.

    ..lets keep this pc.

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    Re: ...affordability helps acceptance...

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    ^^Stimulus................
    Cash for clunkers should have been extended to the Wal-mart brand.
    This frickin guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    ..lets keep this pc.
    Hey ... SmooveP mentioned the Stimulus Plan ... Blame him for the deviation.

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    BikeAb, I am with you, I just gotta keep my mouth shut and not derail a thread about a nice idea: affordable bikes with cool "new" features.

    PS.......people want a nice smooth, easy dialogue without any political references or alliances..................................I think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Hey ... SmooveP mentioned the Stimulus Plan ... Blame him for the deviation.
    Who you callin' a deviant? While it may be true, this is a public forum. What if my Mom stumbled upon this thread?
    Last edited by SmooveP; 06-22-2013 at 04:50 AM.

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    Re: ...affordability helps acceptance...

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    I think in 5 to 6 years time we'll look around and be saying "whatever happened to the 2" tyre, never see one these days".

    I think the fatbike is going to be the norm by then, and the Walgoose has shown us (even if some don't like it) that affordability is not going to be an obstacle.
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    Back to the Borealis Yampa.

    It is a good value because it is neato and affordable to some.

    I suppose the Walgoose is neato and affordable to some.

    I believe we will be seeing more Carbon Fatties and maybe even full suspension carbon fatties, but 2 inch tires will still be around without a doubt.

    I wanna see more Borealis photos!!!!!!!!! I don't wanna see more Walgoose photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    Cough it up, cheapskate.
    Be a one-man stimulus plan!
    try as i might i doos what a man cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    I think in 5 to 6 years time we'll look around and be saying "whatever happened to the 2" tyre, never see one these days".

    I think the fatbike is going to be the norm by then, and the Walgoose has shown us (even if some don't like it) that affordability is not going to be an obstacle.
    That is just ridiculous. Fatbikes will be more common, perhaps, but 2" tires aren't going anywhere.

    Remember the 3" Gazzalodi? They discontinued those for a reason. Even that was too much tire for most riders.

    The thing is that 2" tires are faster, lighter, and more nimble. There is no way around that. I don't care that you posted similar times on your fatbike as you did with your regular mountain bike. Anyone can feel the difference in rolling resistance in two seconds of riding.

    Fatbikes speak for themselves, we don't need irrational fanboyism to further things along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    ... 2" tires aren't going anywhere.
    And 4" tires are going EVERYWHERE. Booyah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    And 4" tires are going EVERYWHERE. Booyah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    And 4" tires are going EVERYWHERE. Booyah!
    Yep, that was a nice turn of the phrase!

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