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    9:zero:7 vs Fatboy

    I know we don't need another Fatboy thread, but I thought I'd ask something in a different way than the rest. There appears to be a lot of comparisons between the Surley Moonlander and the Specialized Fatboy. How do you think the Susitna vs the Fatboy. I think the specs are about the same. My question is which will handle better in snow? (based off the frame geometry) Anyone else think the fork on the Fatboy is a benefit and a concern at the same time? My worry is an unlucky fall in a rock garden and the fork might be toast.
    For reference, Iím thinking MN riding on local single-track trails and maybe a few trips up North. No beach riding, and maybe some summer riding.

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    Why is the Fatboy in your signature if you are comparing it to a 907?

    The 907 will beat the Fatboy every time. Why? It actually exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAGI410 View Post
    The 907 will beat the Fatboy every time. Why? It actually exists.
    +1 - what all these Fatboy comparo threads actually need is some Fatboys.
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    The last bike in my signature could change. I'm really on the fence. And I can change my mind. Thats why I reached out to you guys. I realize the Fatboy isn't out there, but I was wondering what the Fat bike community thought about comparing those bikes from the geometry standpoint.

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    Ever been run over by a fatbike? Didn't think so! You will never know how I feel.

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    No reason to compare, from what i have heard if you don't have a fatboy on order then you probably won't be getting one. I would think the same goes for the 907.

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    Well, I'm rather high on the list for the Fatboy, and I could get a 9:zero:7 this afternoon if I wanted to. Thats why I'm asking what you guys think.

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    Go ride the 907, if you love it, buy it. There is nothing about the Fatboy that screams "wait for me!" about it IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailblazer29er View Post
    Well, I'm rather high on the list for the Fatboy, and I could get a 9:zero:7 this afternoon if I wanted to. Thats why I'm asking what you guys think.
    Life is short, you might be dead tomorrow (or any of us for that matter). I rode my 907 on Sunday for 3 hours. Glad I wasn't sittin around waiting for something to come in a box. Pull the trigger - oh, and yes, change your sig to include bikes you own.

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    After getting a new 190mm 907, I'd forgotten that there even was a Fatboy coming out sometime during the next 3-5months. I don't really care anymore.

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    I saw Chain Reaction has a few complete new 190's sitting on the floor. No waiting. I think I'll get one. Oh no, I already have one!!

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    Well the CS on the Fatboy is 455mm and the 907 CS length is 467mm...

    So the 907 will have a bit less weight over the rear wheel and that will be good in the snow. We have some fat bikes out now that are good all season bikes meaning that they are killer on dirt single track so in the end it's comes down to you, what are you going to use it for most. It sounds like you put your money down at a shop like I did that sells both so you have an out kind of and you are starting to rethink it, I went to a shop in my area that sells Surly, Salsa, 9zer07, Treks, and Specialized and I talked to the guys that ride around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatfendershop View Post
    oh, and yes, change your sig to include bikes you own.
    Dude, yes, because right now your signature makes you a poseur-maximus! Claiming you own a bike that basically no one owns? Shame on you for pretending.
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    Well, I'm biased because I just got my 190mm 907 a few weeks ago and hardly can bring myself to quit riding. But, there really isn't anyone around here who can give you real world impressions of the Fatboy, so I guess you're stuck with stuff like this
    The best I can do for you is this... Based on my experience, I can't imagine that you wouldn't like the 907.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Dude, yes, because right now your signature makes you a poseur-maximus! Claiming you own a bike that basically no one owns? Shame on you for pretending.
    Bad.
    I agree, Bailiff wack that mans pee pee

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    They both suck in the snow.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    They both suck in the snow.
    Sometimes suck is a good thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    I agree, Bailiff wack that mans pee pee
    Do you realize how few people here will recognize this 70' s Cheech and Chong line?
    Thumbs up bdundee!
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    Dave's not here!

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    Fatboy's X0, type 2, with grip shift, is far superior to X9 with triggers for winter riding IMO. Grip shift is very compatible with moose mitts and triggers aren't ideal with bulky gloves.

    Spesh Ground Controls- You'll have 'em. Nobody else can get 'em. Yet.

    Wider rims on the Spesh- 90 vs 80.

    Carbon monocoque fork vs... alloy??? Ewwwww.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllMountin' View Post
    Fatboy's X0, type 2, with grip shift, is far superior to X9 with triggers for winter riding IMO. Grip shift is very compatible with moose mitts and triggers aren't ideal with bulky gloves.

    Spesh Ground Controls- You'll have 'em maybe. Nobody else can get 'em. Yet.

    Wider rims on the Spesh- 90 vs 80.

    Carbon monocoque fork vs... alloy??? Ewwwww.
    Fixed it for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Do you realize how few people here will recognize this 70' s Cheech and Chong line?
    Thumbs up bdundee!
    Boy did that bring back some hazy memories
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    Quote Originally Posted by twindaddy View Post
    Boy did that bring back some hazy memories
    Doesn't it?

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    Anybody know how to add all the bikes I wished I owned into my signature line? I like to pretend.
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    trailblazer29e, I say you can list any bike in your signature whether it exists or not!
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    Well after the mountain of information I got from this thread and what I heard from Specialized today I went to my dealer today, got my money back for my Fatboy. While I probably shouldn't added to my signature, I was really excited by that bike. I've been buying from this dealer for a really long time, and this is the first time I've gone with someone else.

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    Welcome to the 9:Zero:7 world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcappy View Post
    Welcome to the 9:Zero:7 world!
    Yup good bikes, even had one once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailblazer29er View Post
    Well after the mountain of information I got from this thread and what I heard from Specialized today I went to my dealer today, got my money back for my Fatboy. While I probably shouldn't added to my signature, I was really excited by that bike. I've been buying from this dealer for a really long time, and this is the first time I've gone with someone else.
    What did you hear today that made you change your mind?

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    It's been delayed again. They are expecting bikes at the warehouse around mid-December figure another week with that and it's Christmas or later if things slip again, Since this is the 2nd or 3rd delay, I'm not really confident of their ETA.
    The other store said I was the fifth person to cancel with the other store and pick up a 9:zero:7.

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    The bulk of the responses here make us fat bike riders look like prissy jerks...if someone would like to actually be of use, simply respond with something the original inquirer asked about...I've ridden both and many others...and YES, I am fine waiting for my Fatboy on order while 907 riders brag about already having a fattie! I'm happy for you 907 riders that you like your ride...why diss those of us who like the Fatboy more? You make all of us look stupid dudes!...hey, go have fun, but stop wasting out time by being little whiny babies about who rides what...jeesuz...get a life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimeli@hotmail.com View Post
    The bulk of the responses here make us fat bike riders look like prissy jerks...if someone would like to actually be of use, simply respond with something the original inquirer asked about...I've ridden both and many others...and YES, I am fine waiting for my Fatboy on order while 907 riders brag about already having a fattie! I'm happy for you 907 riders that you like your ride...why diss those of us who like the Fatboy more? You make all of us look stupid dudes!...hey, go have fun, but stop wasting out time by being little whiny babies about who rides what...jeesuz...get a life!
    Lol, Well I should have posted an update to this. My Fatboy ended up shipping the day after I cancelled my order. Actually on the way to the LBS that I was going to buy my 907 called and said my Fatboy would arrive the following week. I think the Fatboy handles ok in the snow. I do think the 907 with the slopped top tube has additional benefits for the male biker. However if your going to crack'em, 1cm isn't going to save them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimeli@hotmail.com View Post
    The bulk of the responses here make us fat bike riders look like prissy jerks...if someone would like to actually be of use, simply respond with something the original inquirer asked about...I've ridden both and many others...and YES, I am fine waiting for my Fatboy on order while 907 riders brag about already having a fattie! I'm happy for you 907 riders that you like your ride...why diss those of us who like the Fatboy more? You make all of us look stupid dudes!...hey, go have fun, but stop wasting out time by being little whiny babies about who rides what...jeesuz...get a life!
    Speaking of getting a life, this was a half year old post. When the question was asked pretty much no one had ridden a Fatboy. It seems a little harsh to criticize people for saying get the 907 instead of waiting an unknown amount of time for an unknown bike. As it turned out it worked out for thr OP, but with only numbers on paper to go off of it was a risk opting for the Fatboy. In your case it sounds like you could test ride the Fatboy and compare it to other bikes. That worked out well for you but was not an option back in November. It's also good that you are patiant and willing to wait for the bike you know you want. The OP was not so sure and asked if he should wait or go with something else, people answered that question. Why is that wrong? Granted not all his later questions were answered but I suspect people thought of them as secondary to the wait or not question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    Speaking of getting a life, this was a half year old post. When the question was asked pretty much no one had ridden a Fatboy. It seems a little harsh to criticize people for saying get the 907 instead of waiting an unknown amount of time for an unknown bike. As it turned out it worked out for thr OP, but with only numbers on paper to go off of it was a risk opting for the Fatboy. In your case it sounds like you could test ride the Fatboy and compare it to other bikes. That worked out well for you but was not an option back in November. It's also good that you are patiant and willing to wait for the bike you know you want. The OP was not so sure and asked if he should wait or go with something else, people answered that question. Why is that wrong? Granted not all his later questions were answered but I suspect people thought of them as secondary to the wait or not question.
    Sryanak, you are being to nice in your reponse.

    Wimeli@hotmail.com, yes, YOU ARE a prissy jerk. Perhaps you just shut up and ride your bike. Go out and have fun, and stop being a whiney baby. Get a life. And if you want to really get into it, then just respond back. STFU! You are making all fat bikers look as stupid as you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimeli@hotmail.com View Post
    The bulk of the responses here make us fat bike riders look like prissy jerks...if someone would like to actually be of use, simply respond with something the original inquirer asked about...I've ridden both and many others...and YES, I am fine waiting for my Fatboy on order while 907 riders brag about already having a fattie! I'm happy for you 907 riders that you like your ride...why diss those of us who like the Fatboy more? You make all of us look stupid dudes!...hey, go have fun, but stop wasting out time by being little whiny babies about who rides what...jeesuz...get a life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Sryanak, you are being to nice in your reponse.

    Wimeli@hotmail.com, yes, YOU ARE a prissy jerk. Perhaps you just shut up and ride your bike. Go out and have fun, and stop being a whiney baby. Get a life. And if you want to really get into it, then just respond back. STFU! You are making all fat bikers look as stupid as you are.
    Um...I think you forgot to say nana-nanana? So sorry I made it impossible for you to avoid telling someone to shut up...too bad you can't re-read my original post and see that it was in response to the litany of folks like you who feel compelled to piss on others...the guy/girl who asked the original question didn't ask to be ridiculed by folks like you...there was a sincere question that, like you apparently, ended up getting a bunch of folks inspired to lecture him/her about his/her attitude towards an important purchase without any real help attached. Sadly, many respondents took the opportunity to act like jerks...sorry you mistake me for one of them. I was addressing the contrast between the original post and the tone of many of the responses...you want me to apologize for caring? You even managed to insult the guy you complimented for being "too nice". If that doesn't speak volumes for how you approach others, there's nothing you'll want to hear from me...Ok, so, as you said, I "really got into it"...It's totally up to you if you want to waste anymore of your time....for both out sakes, I hope not!! Cheers!
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    Hi I'm just here to waste time in this very informative time wasting thread.
    Things that I learned;
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailblazer29er View Post
    Lol, Well I should have posted an update to this. My Fatboy ended up shipping the day after I cancelled my order. Actually on the way to the LBS that I was going to buy my 907 called and said my Fatboy would arrive the following week. I think the Fatboy handles ok in the snow. I do think the 907 with the slopped top tube has additional benefits for the male biker. However if your going to crack'em, 1cm isn't going to save them.
    I've "cracked'em" on my Beargrease (AL) top tube a couple times when stepping down on the snow... foot sank... bike didn't.

    That sloped 907 top tube just might protect your ability to reproduce!

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