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    65mm - 70mm rims what are the options?

    Aluminum:

    Surly Marge Lite 26" 65mm external [??]mm internal $115 690g

    Lithic Rhyolite 26" 70mm external 64mm internal $90 625g

    Sunringle Mulefut 27.5" 65mm external 60mm internal $* [??]g
    *Vaporware, only available OEM on Rocky Mountain Suzi Q?

    Borealis 26" 65mm external [??] internal $50*
    *"difficult to set up tubeless" per Borealis

    Crabon Fibrť:

    Whisky no. 9 26" 70mm external 65mm internal $500 575g

    HED no big deal 26" 65mm external [??]mm internal $700 470g

    Light-Bicycle 26" 65mm external 60mm internal $250 500g

    Light Bicycle 27.5" 75mm external 70mm internal $256 580g

    Nextie 26" 65mm external 58mm internal $240 550g

    Nextie 27.5" 65mm external 58mm internal $240 580g

    Ican 26" 65mm external [??]mm internal $198 558g

    Anything else?
    Last edited by zuuds; 02-26-2018 at 05:38 PM. Reason: updated measurements

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    iirc, the internal measurement on the 27.5x65 Mulefut is 60mm and the Nextie 27.5x65 was 58mm. I am swapping tires later today, so i can get a measurement and get you a pic if needed.

    Also, late summer there will be a new, welded aluminum hoop available thaat is 26x65. Details coming soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    Ah. Looks like the Lithic is a rebadged Blizzerk 70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Ah. Looks like the Lithic is a rebadged Blizzerk 70.
    It sure does.
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    In my experience, the Chinese carbon offerings, like my LB 65s, are simply a match made in heaven for tubeless. The shape of the valley/ridges is exactly what you want and Iíve set them up multiple times with a floor pump using the ďset strip overnight with tube and break one side of the bead next day to get out then soap that side and BAM!Ē Double wall so itís durable. One pass of tyvek tape is 6g and the width is prefect.

    I really feel that if you are going to do winter riding 80mm is a good all around width unless there are clearance issues, but for summer riding the narrower profile is good for avoiding rim damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    ...the internal measurement on the 27.5x65 Mulefut is 60mm and the Nextie 27.5x65 was 58mm.
    confirmed these measurements today.

    as expected, the nextie bead retention is twice as thick as the aluminum mulefut.

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    I had a set of LB 65mm laced up to DTSwiss 350 Big Ride hubs and it was an awesome summer wheel set with 3.8 Hodags. Fairly light too if I remember correctly they were under 1800gr before tires, rotors and cassette. Easy to set up tubeless and barely lost ant air even if they sat for a week or so.

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    Lamere made a 65mm carbon rim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Aluminum:

    Surly Marge Lite 65mm external [??] internal $115 690g

    Lithic Rhyolite 70mm external 64mm internal $90 625g

    Sunringle Mulefut 65mm external [??] internal $* [??]g
    *Vaporware, only available OEM on Rocky Mountain Suzi Q?

    Borealis 65mm external [??] internal $50*
    "difficult to set up tubeless" per Borealis

    Crabon Fibre:

    Whisky no. 9 70mm external 65mm internal $500 575g

    HED no big deal 65mm external [??] internal $700 470g

    Light-Bicycle 65mm external 60mm internal $250 500g

    Nextie 65mm external [??] internal $240 580g


    Ican 65mm external [??] internal $198 558g

    Anything else?
    I believe my 65 mm Nexties are 58mm internal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denyski View Post
    I believe my 65 mm Nexties are 58mm internal!
    yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    I had a set of LB 65mm laced up to DTSwiss 350 Big Ride hubs and it was an awesome summer wheel set with 3.8 Hodags. Fairly light too if I remember correctly they were under 1800gr before tires, rotors and cassette. Easy to set up tubeless and barely lost ant air even if they sat for a week or so.
    I second that. My Nexties 65 mm set up on the DTSwiss with Hodags are great 3 season use tires

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    Love my Nextie 65mm Black Eagles!
    Studded Dillinger 4/5 For Sale

    The tires are the things on your bike that make contact w the trail

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    LB 65 on DT350, w and w/o rim strip:

    65mm - 70mm rims what are the options?-16832406_10101056009286118_7269716387457239928_n.jpg

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    ^^^ Hmmm, Lol. Maybe I embellished a tad, front can't be more than 900gr. Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdb85 View Post
    ^^^ Hmmm, Lol. Maybe I embellished a tad, front can't be more than 900gr. Correct?
    I forget how much, but close to 900. There are options to build lighter with fewer spokes, but not much lighter than 900 with these rims.
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    If you're counting grams, the Nextie 26x65mm rims are listed at 550g. The 580g number is for the 27.5x 65mm rims. The price/weight ratio is pretty good - you can easily build a sub-2000g wheelset for under a grand. Like Jayem said, the tubeless interface is just right - easy to mount and doesn't take a crowbar to get them off. I've been on a set for 4 years. I ride them year round and mine have had zero issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmooveP View Post
    If you're counting grams, the Nextie 26x65mm rims are listed at 550g. The 580g number is for the 27.5x 65mm rims. The price/weight ratio is pretty good - you can easily build a sub-2000g wheelset for under a grand. Like Jayem said, the tubeless interface is just right - easy to mount and doesn't take a crowbar to get them off. I've been on a set for 4 years. I ride them year round and mine have had zero issues.
    Good catch, I updated the original post. It seems there is a big hole in the market, it appears nobody is making non-cutout 65-70mm aluminum rims. It would be nice to see an aluminum HED no big deal, Bontrager Jackalope, or Stan's Hugo in this width.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Good catch, I updated the original post. It seems there is a big hole in the market, it appears nobody is making non-cutout 65-70mm aluminum rims. It would be nice to see an aluminum HED no big deal, Bontrager Jackalope, or Stan's Hugo in this width.
    https://www.lightbicycle.com/65mm-wi...ompatible.html

    They are advertised at 500g now, originally I think they were 550.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuuds View Post
    Good catch, I updated the original post. It seems there is a big hole in the market, it appears nobody is making non-cutout 65-70mm aluminum rims. It would be nice to see an aluminum HED no big deal, Bontrager Jackalope, or Stan's Hugo in this width.
    Watched a guy hit an aluminum HED on a root/board a few weeks ago and killed it, tubeless failed. At that weight, it's not durable for aggressive riding. Needs double-wall and to be beefed up. Cut-out at least retains thicker metal, no-cut-out has to be thinner all over to save weight and not weigh an obscene amount, but IMO you don't want a light aluminum fat rim, the material is just spread too thin and doesn't have the strength of carbon. Of course, running pressure too low is really what does it in, but I've bounced my carbon rims on roots and boards at times, then readjusted. The HEDs are popular, but I think the chinese carbon rims set up better and easier and for most people, are a better buy. For ultimate race-weight savings, the HED carbon rims make sense, but that's a lot of $$$ if you crack it.
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    Carbon Speed super tough 68mm rims/ 59mm inner width:

    68mm fat bike carbon clincher rims

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    i should be able to come up with the weight of the Sunringle 27.5x65 hoop. I have two identically hubbed wheels, mulefut 27.5x50 and mulefut 27.5x65 that i weighed when i received them from the wheel builder.

    When i get home, i will do the math and post up.

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    Running the Lithic's with 4.3 Surly Edna, have run on snow but mostly rooty some rocky singletrack and they have been awesome, tubeless is great on them. Only fat Bike wheels I have ever owned but I have high standard when it comes to bike wheels in general especially for singletrack riding and they have been great.

    Bottom line they hold up at a very reasonable weight (I actually have no clue of the weight of them with rim strips and tape but wasnt a main concern for a fat bike for my use).
    XC, Road, XXC, Endurance, Mtn, All-Mtn, Cross, Gravel, just go have fun on 2 wheels!

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    [QUOTE=Rodney;13570493] from the wheel builder. [QUOTE]


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    Quote Originally Posted by HEMIjer View Post
    Running the Lithic's with 4.3 Surly Edna, have run on snow but mostly rooty some rocky singletrack and they have been awesome, tubeless is great on them. Only fat Bike wheels I have ever owned but I have high standard when it comes to bike wheels in general especially for singletrack riding and they have been great.

    Bottom line they hold up at a very reasonable weight (I actually have no clue of the weight of them with rim strips and tape but wasnt a main concern for a fat bike for my use).
    Yep. My Lithics laced to DT350s with Sapim Lazers were right about 2000g with strips. Great tubeless interface and WAY more durable than HED aluminums, which is the only aluminum rim thatís close in weight.

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