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    4.8's on 2013 Mukluk?

    I'm in the process of building up a 2013 Mukluk 2 frame. I'll probably be going with Rolling Daryl rims and was wondering about 4.8 tire fitment. This will mostly be a winter ride but will see some year round use as well. Anyone running 4.8's on your Mukluk? Suggestions? Any input would be appreciated.

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    They rub the frame when climbing. Tried the same set-up on my muk2, also tried marge lites and that rubbed too.

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    Bud fits fine up front!

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    That's why I went with the MoonLander, but I think there will be a wave of frames that clear the 4.8" tires in the next six months.

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    I have BFLs front and back on Rolling Darryl's on my wife's XS 2012 Muk. I needed an MWOD crankset to clear the tire in all gears. No other issues.

    I haven't tried a Lou in the rear, so I don't know if it would fit. It would be very tight if it did.

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    I don't think the Lou will clear.

    Also, something to remember is that these tires expand A LOT as you air them up.

    At 5psi they may just fit but at 10 or 15 psi they may actually push up against the chainstays. I have this problem running Big Fat Larrys on 80mm rims on my Pug. But I always run very low pressure.

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    I have a Lou on a Rolling Darryl on the back of my 2013 Mukluk. I didn't notice (hear) any sort of rubbing during climbing, but now I'm wondering if I should take a closer look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubjay View Post
    I have a Lou on a Rolling Darryl on the back of my 2013 Mukluk. I didn't notice (hear) any sort of rubbing during climbing, but now I'm wondering if I should take a closer look.

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    what spindle length on the MWOD to clear the Lou?
    do you still get all gears?
    did you have to dish the wheel at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    what spindle length on the MWOD to clear the Lou?
    do you still get all gears?
    did you have to dish the wheel at all?
    I'm using the "Pugsley" 100mm spindle. I have access to all gears (2x10). No dishing of the wheel.

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    according to salsa, it should clear the frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    according to salsa, it should clear the frame

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    basically It says it fits on 82mm rim with drivetrain modifications, and does not fit with 100mm rims.

    It also says that all tire combos should fit the enabler fork.

    If I am reading it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autodoctor911 View Post
    basically It says it fits on 82mm rim with drivetrain modifications, and does not fit with 100mm rims.

    It also says that all tire combos should fit the enabler fork.

    If I am reading it right.
    That's what I read. I wonder exactly what driveline mods they are referring to? Although my stock nates have handled everything I have thrown at them I think a muk "stuffed" with a bud and Lou combo would be awesome!
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    Prob have to run 2x8 to avoid chain rub

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    BFL on Darryls fit fine. Tire almost hits the chain with a triple (3 DS spacers) and a 4mm spacer behind a 10spd XT cassette. 2012 Muk 2.

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    Thanks for all the info guys.

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    Ever build this bike? Wondering how it worked out for you and if you have any pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk1er18 View Post
    Ever build this bike? Wondering how it worked out for you and if you have any pictures.
    Oh yeah! Been riding it since April. I recently installed Bud & Lou and they fit fine on the 2013 frame with Alternator dropouts. I do have chain rub in the 2 lowest gears though. That won't be an issue shortly as I'm going with a 1X10 setup with a Race Face narrow/wide 30T up front and a General Lee out back.

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    Perfect thanks! I'm definitely going 1x10 and was actually thinking of putting Bud on front & rear; don't really need the paddle action of the Lou where I ride.
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    NP. I just got my 30T today and threw it on. Now just waiting on the General Lee.
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    What's the general lee accomplish for ya? Is it needed for clearance or did you just want the gear spread?

    I was planning on just replacing the outer ring with a 32T and calling it a day
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    Figure I'm gonna need the gear spread for the snow.
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    Roger that. Are you going to run a chainkeeper or just the SS ring?
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    Shouldn't be any need for a chain keeper. I built it with a X9 Type 2 so should be good to go. I am running the same front ring on my FS 29er with a standard X9 and have had no issues so far and I've ridden some very rocky, rooty trails with it.
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    Cool, maybe i'll give that a shot. I've always had the MRP 1x on my x-cal thats setup 1x9 (with a SS chainring).... I've never tried running without it so im not sure how "needed" it is. I'll try to run without it on my Muk and see how it goes.
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    Received the General Lee yesterday and installed it this morning. I read another post about minor shifting issues and someone thinking of machining the supplied spacer down a little so I went ahead and installed mine with a Miche 10 speed spacer that I had laying around. It was slightly thinner than the supplied spacer. Maybe 1-2 mm? I should have measured it. Anyway, it shifts perfect! I didn't have to adjust anything except the B screw.
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    This is really cool! 1 x 10 and no rub from lou???? please keep us posted on how this turns out as far as shifting quality and reliability goes.....I have been thinking about doing the exact same setup on my mukluk. thanks for posting this

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    Hey Dvn,
    Any updates on how your setup is working out??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forged1 View Post
    Hey Dvn,
    Any updates on how your setup is working out??
    Only ridden it once so far. Been riding the single speed lately. Maybe I'll take it out later this week.
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    Thanks man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvn View Post
    Only ridden it once so far. Been riding the single speed lately. Maybe I'll take it out later this week.
    any updates on how it works in snow? does the snow build up?
    I've never heard of the general lea cogs you installed. I'm going to have to look into that.
    cheers mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpw2011 View Post
    any updates on how it works in snow? does the snow build up?
    I've never heard of the general lea cogs you installed. I'm going to have to look into that.
    cheers mate.
    I've only ridden in about an inch of snow so far. That's all we've had here so far and no issues. I also studded with Grip Studs last weekend. We tend to get a lot of ice here. If I had it to do over, I would probably go with a Bud/Bud set-up. Lou has a lot of rolling resistance. General Lee has been working great since switching to a Shimano directional chain. There are other alternatives starting to appear for gearing. Check out the "Budget XX1" thread.
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    EDIT: 2-4 inches coming tonight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvn View Post
    I've only ridden in about an inch of snow so far. That's all we've had here so far and no issues. I also studded with Grip Studs last weekend. We tend to get a lot of ice here. If I had it to do over, I would probably go with a Bud/Bud set-up. Lou has a lot of rolling resistance. General Lee has been working great since switching to a Shimano directional chain. There are other alternatives starting to appear for gearing. Check out the "Budget XX1" thread.
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    EDIT: 2-4 inches coming tonight!
    Let me know how the snow ride goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpw2011 View Post
    Let me know how the snow ride goes.
    Typical weathermen accuracy. Only got a dusting.
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    This is awesome. I'm working on buying this exact bike, and want to do the same mods you've done. Thanks for the great pics!

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    dvn, is that Lou rubbing on the frame while climbing or cornering? I would love to give this a try, I'm already running 1x10.

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    Just an FYI as I have been following and scheming with a 1x10 with one of the new rings for the cassette. I just installed a Bud on the front of my 2013 Mukluk on HRDs and tread width is about 4.25"-. I moved the Nate to the rear and the Nate and Bud are not too far off with regard to real tire width. I'm not sure those tires on a Rolling Daryl make that big of an improvement? I added noticeable weight swapping a HuDu for Bud. The Bud is slightly better than Nate (in the front) for control in squirrely situations and the Nate is much better than HuDu for traction is less than ideal snow. Not so much that my ability to ride through my current conditions was significantly improved.

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    Good info. Maybe a Bud/Nate Combo may be the hot ticket.. That way I can keep my alternator dropouts sucked up tight, and not have to be concerned with tire rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    dvn, is that Lou rubbing on the frame while climbing or cornering? I would love to give this a try, I'm already running 1x10.
    Haven't noticed any yet but it IS close!
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