Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3910111213
Results 1,201 to 1,226 of 1226
  1. #1201
    mtbr member
    Reputation: solarplex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,151

    27.5X4 Who's excited? Who's not?

    Looking to do a second wheel set for my farley 9.6. I have gnarwhals on the stock wheels with a dt rear hub. Was thinking of going 65mm with the stock barbs for a summer wheel and i could use them for a couple races if the conditions dont need the gnarwhals. They are light, roll fast, the 65mm rim would round them more in the summer and lessen the self steer.... just not sure on nexties or trying to source some 65mm mulefats. Im thinking you have to buy full wheels from rocky.
    Fatbike, XC bike, Gravel Bike....

  2. #1202
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    187
    I gave up on trying to get 27.5x65mm rims and went with 80mm winter wheels and 50mm summer wheels with 3.8-4s. Rodney's thoughts on 65mm rims makes me think this is the right choice for where I ride.

  3. #1203
    mtbr member
    Reputation: solarplex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,151
    Quote Originally Posted by david.p View Post
    I gave up on trying to get 27.5x65mm rims and went with 80mm winter wheels and 50mm summer wheels with 3.8-4s. Rodney's thoughts on 65mm rims makes me think this is the right choice for where I ride.
    If i was to go 50mm rims i would just go 29+ and ditch fat for summer all together. I kind of want a half way for winter speed and summer fat. My summer bike is a top fuel so this wouldnt be my main summer bike.
    Fatbike, XC bike, Gravel Bike....

  4. #1204
    mtbr member
    Reputation: solarplex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,151
    Ive decided im going to go with some 80mm carbons. Was riding yesterday and the gnarwhals are quite the chore on groomed double track, would be nice to switch from the gnarwhals for pow and ice to the barbs for groomed and races. Ill get more use out of them than i thought.
    Fatbike, XC bike, Gravel Bike....

  5. #1205
    fat guy on a little bike
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    379
    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    If i was to go 50mm rims i would just go 29+ and ditch fat for summer all together.
    i am not a 29+ fan. IMHO, for where i ride, 27.5x4 works better than 29x3, even w/ both on 50mm rims. YMMV.

  6. #1206
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,009
    4.5" Barbes are not going to be all that different from a 4.5 Gnar, same casing dontcha know, so you might get a slightly faster rolling tire, but not a tire thay is much good for anything other than soft surfaces. I got a set of Barbes on Jackalopes now, trust me, they are not all around tires.

    What Rodney is saying is that the 50mm rims would be for B Fat, which is ~ the ideal rim width for a 3.5" tire.

    Half way between your Top Fuel and 4.5 tires is B Fat.

    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    If i was to go 50mm rims i would just go 29+ and ditch fat for summer all together. I kind of want a half way for winter speed and summer fat. My summer bike is a top fuel so this wouldnt be my main summer bike.

  7. #1207
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Way2ManyBikes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    585
    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    Looking to do a second wheel set for my farley 9.6. I have gnarwhals on the stock wheels with a dt rear hub. Was thinking of going 65mm with the stock barbs for a summer wheel and i could use them for a couple races if the conditions dont need the gnarwhals. They are light, roll fast, the 65mm rim would round them more in the summer and lessen the self steer.... just not sure on nexties or trying to source some 65mm mulefats. Im thinking you have to buy full wheels from rocky.
    I have a set of 27.5+ WTB Scraper rims wheels on my Farley and love them. I am also running the 3.5 Fat B Nimble and to be honest they are really only 3" wide at best. But man are they a fast fun combo.

    My buddy also has the same combo on his Farley and loves the 27.5+ just as much as I do.
    Marty
    12 JamisDakar650B
    14 FarleyBlue,Bluto,i9-Hed,4.JumboJims
    14 FarleyBlack,Jackalope
    17 Farley 9.6 Under Construction

  8. #1208
    mtbr member
    Reputation: bikeny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    3,593
    Quote Originally Posted by Nurse Ben View Post
    4.5" Barbes are not going to be all that different from a 4.5 Gnar, same casing dontcha know, so you might get a slightly faster rolling tire, but not a tire thay is much good for anything other than soft surfaces. I got a set of Barbes on Jackalopes now, trust me, they are not all around tires.

    What Rodney is saying is that the 50mm rims would be for B Fat, which is ~ the ideal rim width for a 3.5" tire.

    Half way between your Top Fuel and 4.5 tires is B Fat.
    I have to disagree with you Ben. I think a set of Barbis on 65mm rims would be a great setup for packed snow riding/racing, as well as for non snow riding. The Barbis are the same weight or lighter than all of the 27.5x3.8 options and roll great, and stll allow silly low pressures when needed. They would also keep the BB height the same as stock. A 27.5x3.8 setup on 50mm won't be much faster(depending on tires of course) and will lower the BB which may be an issue. A 29+ setup would be a great summer setup, faster and lighter, but not really usable for snow riding.

  9. #1209
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    207
    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I have to disagree with you Ben. I think a set of Barbis on 65mm rims would be a great setup for packed snow riding/racing, as well as for non snow riding. The Barbis are the same weight or lighter than all of the 27.5x3.8 options and roll great, and stll allow silly low pressures when needed. They would also keep the BB height the same as stock. A 27.5x3.8 setup on 50mm won't be much faster(depending on tires of course) and will lower the BB which may be an issue. A 29+ setup would be a great summer setup, faster and lighter, but not really usable for snow riding.
    ^^^+ 1
    Yeah the Barb’s are fast rollers, unlike the Gnarwhal’s, I’m also looking for another set of wheel's…

  10. #1210
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    112
    Quote Originally Posted by tmbrown View Post
    ^^^+ 1
    Yeah the Barb’s are fast rollers, unlike the Gnarwhal’s, I’m also looking for another set of wheel's…
    I have a new takeoff wheelset from 2018 Farley 5 I would sell, they were taped at the dealer and have stems. The rear has the Shimano 10/11 driver, but Bontrager does sell an XD driver for this hub (part # W330365). I'm located in Michigan, send me a PM if interested.
    2018 Farley 9.6 - Eagle X01, XT Brakes
    2017 Salsa PR GX1 - X01, I9/carbon 27.5+
    2017 Surly KM, 1x11, 27.5+

  11. #1211
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,009
    I've got a set of Mikesee built wheels, Jackalopes on DT Swiss Big Ride, 177/150, Barbe 4.5, tubless, riden a couple times, no damage, nearly new.

    Since moving south I'm just not using these wheels the way they are designed.

    Obviously I'm not going to get what I paid, but I'd like to sell them OR trade for a similar 29+ rig for my fatty.

    PM for details, sorry, not splitting the set or selling parts.

    Best offer or trade for 29+, not interested in other trades.

  12. #1212
    WNC Native
    Reputation: nitrousjunky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    3,371
    Nurse Ben- Now that the Crown Gem has had some time to stretch, can you give us some updated numbers?
    "I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew

  13. #1213
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    5
    I am looking into up grading my stock farley 9 wheels. I have read a lot on this forum about guys running 27.5 x 50mm wheels with 3.8 tires. I will probably get my local shop to build them. What rims are people running? Also would you recommend switching to 29+ instead. I live in eastern Pennsylvania and mostly ride rocky single track with the occasional snow ride in the winter. Does anybody run 27.5x 3 on a fat bike or would that drop the bb to low. I am in the process of switching my bluto from 100mm to 120mm.

  14. #1214
    beer thief
    Reputation: radair's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Posts
    4,760
    Quote Originally Posted by CrLapp View Post
    I am looking into up grading my stock farley 9 wheels. I have read a lot on this forum about guys running 27.5 x 50mm wheels with 3.8 tires. I will probably get my local shop to build them. What rims are people running? Also would you recommend switching to 29+ instead. I live in eastern Pennsylvania and mostly ride rocky single track with the occasional snow ride in the winter. Does anybody run 27.5x 3 on a fat bike or would that drop the bb to low. I am in the process of switching my bluto from 100mm to 120mm.
    I run 50 mm Nextie rims. I have run 27.5 x 3.0 Dirt Wizard tires and loved them. I did not notice the lower BB at all. Last year I ran 3.8 Hodags and was surprised how well they worked, so much so that I didn't mount the DWs. If I lived in CO or CA I might go with 29+ but for me living in the east I think 27.5 is more responsive.

  15. #1215
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LargeMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    246
    I used the 27.5 x 3.8 over the last few months and hate it. Everyone seems to really like the setup, but it is not for me. Dropped some serious coin going that route and it has been one of the most disappointing changes I have done. Switched to 26 x 4.8 and love the bike now.

    Anyone else experience that?

  16. #1216
    mtbr member
    Reputation: Swerny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    1,836
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    I used the 27.5 x 3.8 over the last few months and hate it. Everyone seems to really like the setup, but it is not for me. Dropped some serious coin going that route and it has been one of the most disappointing changes I have done. Switched to 26 x 4.8 and love the bike now.

    Anyone else experience that?
    i think you need to elaborate on what surface and what type of riding.

    If you're saying for deep snow, then sure that makes sense.
    Mike
    Toronto, Canada
    2017 Trek Farley 9.6 with Lauf
    2017 Diamondback Haanjo Trail Carbon
    2016 Scott Solace 10 Disc

  17. #1217
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LargeMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    246
    No snow, eastcoast singletrack. I am almost 2 mph faster on each ride since switching.

  18. #1218
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    187
    Well there are likely a bunch of factors at play besides the wheel size. East coast weather has varied a lot over the past few months and trail conditions now are not what they have been. Also what tires on each wheelset?

  19. #1219
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LargeMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    246
    Quote Originally Posted by david.p View Post
    Well there are likely a bunch of factors at play besides the wheel size. East coast weather has varied a lot over the past few months and trail conditions now are not what they have been. Also what tires on each wheelset?
    Maxxis DHF,DHR vs Jumbo Jim , the main issue was suppleness and rollover. The 27.5 felt like it got stuck on everything but the JJ just roll over the same trail.

  20. #1220
    Oslo, Norway
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    701
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    Maxxis DHF,DHR vs Jumbo Jim , the main issue was suppleness and rollover. The 27.5 felt like it got stuck on everything but the JJ just roll over the same trail.
    JJs have very low rolling resistance: https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...-liteskin-2016

    Close to MTB racing tires on hardpack and (very) likely better than them on softer/bumpier stuff.
    Espen Wethe
    www.kindernay.com
    Kindernay on BikeRumor: https://goo.gl/iQtWxu

  21. #1221
    mtbr member
    Reputation: bikeny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    3,593
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    Maxxis DHF,DHR vs Jumbo Jim , the main issue was suppleness and rollover. The 27.5 felt like it got stuck on everything but the JJ just roll over the same trail.
    You do realize you're comparing probably the slowest 27 Fat tire to the fastest 26 fat tire, right? 27 fat is obviously not for everyone, but that's really not a fair comparison.

    I'd also like to hear what exactly you didn't like about them. Also, what rims and pressures were you using for each setup?

  22. #1222
    WNC Native
    Reputation: nitrousjunky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    3,371
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    Maxxis DHF,DHR vs Jumbo Jim , the main issue was suppleness and rollover.
    No wonder you like the 26" setup better then. You should have tried some 27.5 Hodag tires.
    "I ride to clear my head, my head is clearer when I'm riding SS. Therefore, I choose to ride SS."~ Fullrange Drew

  23. #1223
    mtbr member
    Reputation: LargeMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    246
    Quote Originally Posted by nitrousjunky View Post
    No wonder you like the 26" setup better then. You should have tried some 27.5 Hodag tires.
    No offense, but cannot use any TREK product.

  24. #1224
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    187
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    No offense, but cannot use any TREK product.
    Oh, well that eliminates half the current B-fat tire options right there.

    I'd suggest the Terrene Cake Eater if you want something more supple.

  25. #1225
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    185
    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMan View Post
    No offense, but cannot use any TREK product.
    Just curious; why is that?

  26. #1226
    mtbr member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,009
    Because some people see the world in black and white, other's see shades of grey.

    It's his choice, no reason to beleaguer him; his loss too

    Quote Originally Posted by amadkins View Post
    Just curious; why is that?

Page 13 of 13 FirstFirst ... 3910111213

Similar Threads

  1. I was so excited.
    By modifier in forum Fat bikes
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 02-22-2013, 12:19 PM
  2. Excited about ss
    By jrogs in forum Singlespeed
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-24-2012, 03:14 PM
  3. Really Excited
    By The Hookler in forum Turner
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 08-18-2012, 04:21 AM
  4. excited!
    By nephets0 in forum Beginner's Corner
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-02-2011, 03:27 PM
  5. Excited !!!!
    By stb3222 in forum Beginner's Corner
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 02-07-2011, 10:49 AM

Members who have read this thread: 668

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •