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    nice. can't wait to try it

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    WHere do you think this will fit in with the Nate and HuDu? Any mention of availability?

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    I wonder what the design purpose is? Rather than just another shoe to buy. Maybe to replace the Larry which is getting long in the tooth.

    You know what I would really like to see? A fat 29er. And no 3" is not fat. Maybe 3.4" with a 32+ diameter. Maybe too heavy but who knows until someone tries it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seewhatididther View Post
    WHere do you think this will fit in with the Nate and HuDu? Any mention of availability?
    No--no mention of availability.

    My guesses:
    Knard v. Nate: Knard will be lighter, faster rolling, less aggressive. Better for dry, worse for wet. More predictable when banked over, and narrower.

    Knard v. HuDu: This will be an interesting one to see. Knard will be narrower, but I wonder how the rolling resistance and traction will compare.

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    i see knard as a best candidate for home made studded tire ! just my opinion

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    I'm assuming if the 26" Knard sets up well tubeless, then the 29" Knard may too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    No--no mention of availability.

    My guesses:
    Knard v. Nate: Knard will be lighter, faster rolling, less aggressive. Better for dry, worse for wet. More predictable when banked over, and narrower.

    Knard v. HuDu: This will be an interesting one to see. Knard will be narrower, but I wonder how the rolling resistance and traction will compare.
    What makes you think the Knard will be narrower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traktor View Post
    What makes you think the Knard will be narrower?
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    At first I saw this and thought big deal. But then I realized what this meant. I'm looking to replace my Larry. A 32" Knard would also require a whole new wheel. A Husker Du or this 26" Knard would be the cheapest and easiest upgrade.

    I wonder if the Knard will be less than the $150 Husker Du, and when it will be available...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    I'm sure there are other numbers out there but what I could find searching the forums is HuDu on a 80 mm rim 95.25 mm and Larry on same rim 96mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    I'm sure there are other numbers out there but what I could find searching the forums is HuDu on a 80 mm rim 95.25 mm and Larry on same rim 96mm.
    I don't have the mm measurements in front of me at the moment, but as tried, back to back, on my 82mm Rolling Darryls, the HuDu was appreciably wider than a 3.8 Larry.

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    I find Larry and HD basically the same and Nate wider. Haven't seen BFLs.
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    good to have more options

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    29x3 Knard is pretty light, isn't it? This one might be one of the lighter fatties...perhaps it'll beat the light HuDu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    29x3 Knard is pretty light, isn't it? This one might be one of the lighter fatties...perhaps it'll beat the light HuDu?
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.
    Right. 1200 1250. Still pretty light for the size. I'm really liking the HDs.

    I've been riding a motorcycle again recently and I've started unclipping form the pedal and sticking my root out and to the front on a bike too in some turns. Really helps with weight distribution and cornering traction. Plus you have a foot there if you slip. I'm much better on the left than the right. Same way on a motorcycle : /
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    Anybody know when these are supposed to be available?

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    Hey;

    This may have been found by others here searching the Frame Building forum, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway, for the sake of this forum. There is a thread in that forum that I started that has a small list of some Fatbike tire profiles, useful for frame building purposes.

    This is the spec I measured for a HuDu on the GRF/RD 80mm rim. This was while they were stretching at 40psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Hey;

    This may have been found by others here searching the Frame Building forum, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway, for the sake of this forum. There is a thread in that forum that I started that has a small list of some Fatbike tire profiles, useful for frame building purposes.

    This is the spec I measured for a HuDu on the GRF/RD 80mm rim. This was while they were stretching at 40psi.
    thats too sexy for my rims..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.
    hmmm, if the 26x3.8 is 120tpi it too may under 1000gms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    hmmm, if the 26x3.8 is 120tpi it too may under 1000gms.
    Never thought I'd see the day when a 1kg tyre would be "light"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Never thought I'd see the day when a 1kg tyre would be "light"
    Ha ha, so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    It is?

    Not that I've seen--not even a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    It is?

    Not that I've seen--not even a little bit.
    See: New Husker Du , I posted some measurements. Found .010" to .030" bigger.

    I found my Husker Du's to be wider than the Larry's I got from you. Hard to say how much variation is in their process. You might not see any difference in some tires from a different run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Balogh View Post
    See: New Husker Du , I posted some measurements. Found .010" to .030" bigger.
    Well if you count 1/100th of an inch as significant than I guess you could be right.

    Bring on those digital calipers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Balogh View Post
    See: New Husker Du , I posted some measurements. Found .010" to .030" bigger.

    I found my Husker Du's to be wider than the Larry's I got from you. Hard to say how much variation is in their process. You might not see any difference in some tires from a different run.
    I guess we have a different definition of 'significant'!

    But you're right in that there are variances in each batch, not to mention that which tube (or lack thereof) and exact pressure can affect the overall measurement 'significantly'.

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    Availability looks to be mid month. I'm watching them, and will bring a couple in fo'sho'.
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    depending on price i may try a pr.

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    Unless there gougers out there, price will be right in line with the rest of Sulry's tire line up.
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    The Croatian Bear is thoroughly enjoying the Knard 3.8's. They corner better than the HD's and they're quicker to roll up. get ready to rip the legs off the inferior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by croatian_bear View Post
    The Croatian Bear is thoroughly enjoying the Knard 3.8's. They corner better than the HD's and they're quicker to roll up. get ready to rip the legs off the inferior.
    oh sure makes us drool now.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    oh sure makes us drool now.........
    Just keep the drool off my Knards... Do: Like The Croatian Bear on Facebook though for a chance to win 1 of 5 'Resistance Care Packages'...400 Likes by 11/3 will make it happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by croatian_bear View Post
    Just keep the drool off my Knards... Do: Like The Croatian Bear on Facebook though for a chance to win 1 of 5 'Resistance Care Packages'...400 Likes by 11/3 will make it happen!
    Done! not sure what a "Resistance Care Package" is, but if it is from Surly it's got to be cool! A pair of those Knards would be great for my Fatback build i'm almost done with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by croatian_bear View Post
    The Croatian Bear is thoroughly enjoying the Knard 3.8's. They corner better than the HD's and they're quicker to roll up. get ready to rip the legs off the inferior.
    thats a great shot to show the blocks and profile of Mr Nardy.

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    any real life weights on the 3.8 knard? wondering if they will be lighter than the new husker du? thanks

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    I enquired with surly today and the reply was avail 1st week in Nov with no idea of weight or cost....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traktor View Post
    ahhhhhhhh same as the HD which is quite spendy.

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    Still no weight?

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    Also posted on the Surly website now.

    I wonder how this one will do in the snow? Man santa has got to be pissed with how much I have been changing my list this year...
    Whatever floats your bike, dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Mustangs View Post
    Also posted on the Surly website now.

    I wonder how this one will do in the snow? Man santa has got to be pissed with how much I have been changing my list this year...

    Remember, it is not enough to have a good snow tire; the main thing is to use it well.

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    This looks like it may be the fat tire version of the Maxxis Beaver I have been having fever dreams about...

    Fixed gear trail Pug looking like it may see the light of day in 2013. I can hear the CFO now - "You spent $300+ on a pair of tires?!?!? You are so fired."
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    croation_bear, is that an OD crank as well? hows that going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjfalken View Post
    croation_bear, is that an OD crank as well? hows that going?
    The new crank is great! Solid, black, no der rub, black...did I mention that it's black?

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    awesome, thanks! i have my name on one as soon as they come into the country!

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    If it's around 1200g - then I'm in - Now a Big Fat Knard would be even better!

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    Not to keep beating a dead horse, but I want a 4.7" version of this tire so, so hard.

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    I want a 29x3" Nate for the Krampus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willum View Post
    Not to keep beating a dead horse, but I want a 4.7" version of this tire so, so hard.
    They will probably gives us that after we buy all the 3.8 first.

    Really negative rep for that.^^^^ Give me a break!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    They will probably gives us that after we buy all the 3.8 first.
    yea 1 rockstar tire at a time turkeys.

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    according to postings here they are avail @ QBP.

    Bud & Lou are here

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    Breakdown

    You b@stards. Demons, the whole lot of you. Torturing me with your temptuous images and adjectives. Perpetually sweaty palms. Sleepless nights spent tossing and turning. Total inability to concentrate at work. Every man has his breaking point and you've finally pushed me to mine . . . two knards were just ordered. I hope you're happy with yourselves. At least I will sleep tonight. The only question left to dwell on is whether they will be delivered in a sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdundee View Post
    Really negative rep for that.^^^^ Give me a break!!
    I've been getting them, too. LOL, that poster must work for Surly or something.

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    Does anywhere have the 26x3.8 Knards (120tpi) in stock?
    Any weights on these yet?

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    So far QBP has only had the 27tpi instock and they sold out in three days. The 120 tpi's are over due.

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    Does anywhere have the 26x3.8 Knards (120tpi) in stock?
    Any weights on these yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny settle View Post
    I bought one from Jenson. ETA Nov. 12th.
    Thanks, Jenson have pretty sweet shipping price to me if only surly would give us some weights!

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    27 tpi Stats

    I got my Knards today and of course the first thing I did was weigh them:

    One came in at 1680 and the other at 1740. Pretty chunky, especially compared to my Larry at 1470, Endo at 1260 and BF's at around 1100. But hey, you wanna play, you gotta pay, right? I'm really excited about these tires and am optimistic that the speed and traction will be so worth the price of a little extra weight.

    26x3.8 Surly Knard-img_0321.jpg

    On first impression, they appear to be wider than the Endo, but mostly that's an optical thing, I think, because the treadblocks wrap so much further around the tire.

    26x3.8 Surly Knard-img_0308.jpg

    The outer treadblocks are the widest part of the tire, though, by just a bit. With 30 psi in the tires, I measured around 102 mm and at 10psi, about 98. Brand new of course, and so they haven't had time to stretch, but ballpark numbers. No surprise in those numbers, since they use the same casing as the others, I presume.

    26x3.8 Surly Knard-img_0318.jpg

    I'll be super jealous of you guys that are waiting for the 1200g 120 tpi's when you get 'em, but for now, feel free to eat your hearts out, suckas! Unless of course I literally eat my own heart out tomorrow out of sheer frustration, since I won't get a chance to ride these until Saturday.

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    are the 120 tpiz 1200g ? source?

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    How does your chain clearance compare with how it was with the endo?
    Whatever floats your bike, dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    are the 120 tpiz 1200g ? source?
    Just a guess, based on the fact that the HD is in the 1200 - 1250 range.

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    Mounted mine just a few minutes ago. I've been running nates and wanted lower rolling resistance for riding single track. Short trip around the block and I can say they will be faster for sure. Night ride scheduled tonight to see traction
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    I wonder how these tires will do with packing up snow/sand.

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    Any body had luck setting these up tubeless? What pressures are yall running tubeless for the fatty? seems like youd burp a tonn running 6-11 psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Mustangs View Post
    How does your chain clearance compare with how it was with the endo?
    I have 2+ mm clearance. Probably better than with the Endo.

    26x3.8 Surly Knard-img_0335.jpg

    I went more than a little crazy over chain rub about this time last year, as documented here. Since then, I did a ~400 mile tour on BF's pumped up to 25 psi, which majorly rubbed. Certainly I'd rather not rub if I have my choice, but I guess I've kind of mellowed on the issue - it's just not that bigga deal to me. The time spent in the big cog/small ring is pretty miniscule and the chance of the chain doing any damage to the tire is even infinitely more miniscule, IMHO.

    And chicks dig rub marks, so there's also that.

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    Thanks for the info. With the type of riding I do I have a lot of issues with mud/sand/grit contaminating my drive train. I have some full coverage carbon fenders almost done but even with those there is still a big issue with the chain picking up debris straight from the tire. The more clearance there the better as far as that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Mustangs View Post
    Thanks for the info. With the type of riding I do I have a lot of issues with mud/sand/grit contaminating my drive train. I have some full coverage carbon fenders almost done but even with those there is still a big issue with the chain picking up debris straight from the tire. The more clearance there the better as far as that goes.
    Yeah, I see your point about wanting clearance for the mud. Looking forward to seeing your fenders when they're finished.

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    I was playing with my Knards this weekend . . . wait! That sounds all wrong. Not what I meant. At all!!!

    What I meant was, I was out riding on Surly's newest fat tire. And it was RAD. Fast and sticky, just like I had hoped. I REALLY dig these tires.

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    ^ did you fall down go boom or was this a pee break??

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    Neither. Just stopped to gather a little oxygen after climbing that thar hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spovegas View Post
    I was playing with my Knards this weekend . . . wait! That sounds all wrong. Not what I meant. At all!!!

    What I meant was, I was out riding on Surly's newest fat tire. And it was RAD. Fast and sticky, just like I had hoped. I REALLY dig these tires.

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    Gotta ask- figure the weight on the Knards isn't too far off the weight of a Devist8r- any comparison between the two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckfiddious View Post
    Gotta ask- figure the weight on the Knards isn't too far off the weight of a Devist8r- any comparison between the two?
    the NEW UL devist8ers are 1800gms +/- so perhaps 100gms diff between the two.

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    got a knard 27 tpi for my half fat today....and it is sweet. I havent ridden it much yet, but it has noticably less rolling resistance and I cant wait to take it out on the trails
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    Picked up a set yesterday....

    ....put them on my old Wildfire. Got the 27 tpi version, works really well on trail. There's a few places locally that have paved paths connecting trails, so I wanted something a bit more road and hardpack friendly without tearing up my Husker Du's on my other bike. A lot less noisy that the Larry's they replaced when hitting the pavement.


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    So, rolls faster... any feeling for traction? I'm mostly concerned about use in the snow.
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    any feedback on what knards are like in mud yet?

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    Steve - can you give us a quick comparison on the knard vs husker du? Please

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    Awesome looking tire! Waiting for the 120tpi to become available. Had a chance to get up close and personal with this bad boy over the weekend.
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    Knard vs Hu Du

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    Steve - can you give us a quick comparison on the knard vs husker du? Please
    I'm thinking the Knard rolls faster - has more knobs in the center closely spaced. I did take one corner fast enough to make the rear break loose into a controlled skid, but it's handling is predictable. Keep in mind though, I have Large Marges on the Wildfire and lighter weight UMA's on my Fatback that has the Husker Du's. The 27 tpi Knard's feel like a more expensive tire, those choosing to go cheaper than the $150 version will not be disappointed.

    As a front tire worked fantastic, was not like an Endomorph. The Knard should work well in sand, I might give that a go this weekend. My first ride was on hardpack and paved trail.
    The Knard is doing what I need it to do, hardpack, grass, new bumpy trails, and pavement.

    Last weekend at Iceman, the Husker Du surprised me at how well it handled the mud up there (has a bit of sand though, not the greasy clay - based soil like my end of the state has).

    I'm thinking mud may be the true test of the Knard. I seriously think that's where the Husker Du may have an advantage.

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    Tread

    For tread depth, I'm getting 3mm on the Husker Du's and 2mm on the Knards.

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    Has anyone weighed the kevlar beaded version?
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    I just ordered a 120 TPI, so I'll post a weight when it arrives.

    If it's under 1200gm I'll be happy, otherwise I'm kinda thinking an Ultralight Nate would be better.

    Replaces my orginal Larry and a Devista8er, so I can't really go wrong

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    got my 27tpi version last night, weighed in at 1705g

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    I just talked to the shop who has my order and apparently the 26 x 3.8 120tpi folding knard is on the same delivery schedule as the 29 x 3" Knard. So now I'm thinking I might hold off on getting the fat Knard since the wire bead weights are coming in really high; which makes me think the folding bead is going to be heavier than the comparable Larry or HD.

    The ultralight HD is looking better all the time.

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    Weights for the folding version are on this thread.

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