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    nice. can't wait to try it

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    WHere do you think this will fit in with the Nate and HuDu? Any mention of availability?

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    I wonder what the design purpose is? Rather than just another shoe to buy. Maybe to replace the Larry which is getting long in the tooth.

    You know what I would really like to see? A fat 29er. And no 3" is not fat. Maybe 3.4" with a 32+ diameter. Maybe too heavy but who knows until someone tries it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seewhatididther View Post
    WHere do you think this will fit in with the Nate and HuDu? Any mention of availability?
    No--no mention of availability.

    My guesses:
    Knard v. Nate: Knard will be lighter, faster rolling, less aggressive. Better for dry, worse for wet. More predictable when banked over, and narrower.

    Knard v. HuDu: This will be an interesting one to see. Knard will be narrower, but I wonder how the rolling resistance and traction will compare.

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    i see knard as a best candidate for home made studded tire ! just my opinion

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    I'm assuming if the 26" Knard sets up well tubeless, then the 29" Knard may too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    No--no mention of availability.

    My guesses:
    Knard v. Nate: Knard will be lighter, faster rolling, less aggressive. Better for dry, worse for wet. More predictable when banked over, and narrower.

    Knard v. HuDu: This will be an interesting one to see. Knard will be narrower, but I wonder how the rolling resistance and traction will compare.
    What makes you think the Knard will be narrower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traktor View Post
    What makes you think the Knard will be narrower?
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    At first I saw this and thought big deal. But then I realized what this meant. I'm looking to replace my Larry. A 32" Knard would also require a whole new wheel. A Husker Du or this 26" Knard would be the cheapest and easiest upgrade.

    I wonder if the Knard will be less than the $150 Husker Du, and when it will be available...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    Knard is a 3.8, by label. I'm guessing it's on the same casing as the Larry. HuDu is 4, by label.

    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    I'm sure there are other numbers out there but what I could find searching the forums is HuDu on a 80 mm rim 95.25 mm and Larry on same rim 96mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    I'm sure there are other numbers out there but what I could find searching the forums is HuDu on a 80 mm rim 95.25 mm and Larry on same rim 96mm.
    I don't have the mm measurements in front of me at the moment, but as tried, back to back, on my 82mm Rolling Darryls, the HuDu was appreciably wider than a 3.8 Larry.

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    I find Larry and HD basically the same and Nate wider. Haven't seen BFLs.
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    good to have more options

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    29x3 Knard is pretty light, isn't it? This one might be one of the lighter fatties...perhaps it'll beat the light HuDu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by montana_ben View Post
    29x3 Knard is pretty light, isn't it? This one might be one of the lighter fatties...perhaps it'll beat the light HuDu?
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.
    Right. 1200 1250. Still pretty light for the size. I'm really liking the HDs.

    I've been riding a motorcycle again recently and I've started unclipping form the pedal and sticking my root out and to the front on a bike too in some turns. Really helps with weight distribution and cornering traction. Plus you have a foot there if you slip. I'm much better on the left than the right. Same way on a motorcycle : /
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    Anybody know when these are supposed to be available?

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    Hey;

    This may have been found by others here searching the Frame Building forum, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway, for the sake of this forum. There is a thread in that forum that I started that has a small list of some Fatbike tire profiles, useful for frame building purposes.

    This is the spec I measured for a HuDu on the GRF/RD 80mm rim. This was while they were stretching at 40psi.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 26x3.8 Surly Knard-huskerduprofile.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMaker View Post
    Hey;

    This may have been found by others here searching the Frame Building forum, but I thought I would toss it in here anyway, for the sake of this forum. There is a thread in that forum that I started that has a small list of some Fatbike tire profiles, useful for frame building purposes.

    This is the spec I measured for a HuDu on the GRF/RD 80mm rim. This was while they were stretching at 40psi.
    thats too sexy for my rims..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    I think the 29x3" Knard will be around 850gms, and I think the 26x4" Husker Du is closer to 1200gms.
    hmmm, if the 26x3.8 is 120tpi it too may under 1000gms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    hmmm, if the 26x3.8 is 120tpi it too may under 1000gms.
    Never thought I'd see the day when a 1kg tyre would be "light"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Never thought I'd see the day when a 1kg tyre would be "light"
    Ha ha, so true

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    HuDu is significantly wider than Larry.
    It is?

    Not that I've seen--not even a little bit.

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