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    Solarplex, I just recently got an EX8 and it's unbelievable. I'm amazed how well the Hodags do on snow AND ice. I was prepared to look for a 26x4 winter wheelset option or studs for winter but after a few rides in the New England ice/snow, I'm going to hold off. Now I don't claim this set up would be great for deep, fresh snow but that's not really what we have where I ride. I dropped my pressure down to 7psi and it performs very well. The Hodags are siped just like a winter car tire which is why they do so well on ice. Im not talking about smooth, clear ice (obviously studs would be needed) but where I ride we get a lot of temperature swings so trails get slushy and then freezes. As long as there is some texture to the ice like tire tracks or even snow shoe tracks, this bike grips like crazy. I was recently on a ride with a couple of guys running studded tires and was passing by them on icy frozen hills. So I'm going to hold off on spending money on tires or winter wheelsets for now. As a bonus, this thing absolutely rips on dirt. I also have a Stumpjumper 6Fattie and this is just as good. Maybe a tad heavier but not by much. You can save some weight losing the dropper post but I would recommend trying it first. Once you get used to using them, its hard to go back. I saved about 1 pound per tire losing the tubes. HUGE improvement because its rotational weight. It also made the tires feel more supple. And as far as the dish on the ring, its supposed to be that way for better chainline. I had my salesman call Trek right in front of me and they confirmed this. The whole setup works very well. I was a little worried that the Bluto fork would be the weak link with this bike but I can say that it has performed flawlessly for me so far.
    So if you are going to ride predominantly in deep powdery snow, you might want a wider tire or if you were going to ride this solely as a summer bike, maybe a 3.0 tire might be better. BUT, the nice thing about the 197 rear spacing is you can run just about any wheel/tire combo you want- 26fat, 27.5+ or 29. But the way it comes is pretty friggin' sweet for all around thrashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigrob View Post
    Solarplex, I just recently got an EX8 and it's unbelievable. I'm amazed how well the Hodags do on snow AND ice. I was prepared to look for a 26x4 winter wheelset option or studs for winter but after a few rides in the New England ice/snow, I'm going to hold off. Now I don't claim this set up would be great for deep, fresh snow but that's not really what we have where I ride. I dropped my pressure down to 7psi and it performs very well. The Hodags are siped just like a winter car tire which is why they do so well on ice. Im not talking about smooth, clear ice (obviously studs would be needed) but where I ride we get a lot of temperature swings so trails get slushy and then freezes. As long as there is some texture to the ice like tire tracks or even snow shoe tracks, this bike grips like crazy. I was recently on a ride with a couple of guys running studded tires and was passing by them on icy frozen hills. So I'm going to hold off on spending money on tires or winter wheelsets for now. As a bonus, this thing absolutely rips on dirt. I also have a Stumpjumper 6Fattie and this is just as good. Maybe a tad heavier but not by much. You can save some weight losing the dropper post but I would recommend trying it first. Once you get used to using them, its hard to go back. I saved about 1 pound per tire losing the tubes. HUGE improvement because its rotational weight. It also made the tires feel more supple. And as far as the dish on the ring, its supposed to be that way for better chainline. I had my salesman call Trek right in front of me and they confirmed this. The whole setup works very well. I was a little worried that the Bluto fork would be the weak link with this bike but I can say that it has performed flawlessly for me so far.
    So if you are going to ride predominantly in deep powdery snow, you might want a wider tire or if you were going to ride this solely as a summer bike, maybe a 3.0 tire might be better. BUT, the nice thing about the 197 rear spacing is you can run just about any wheel/tire combo you want- 26fat, 27.5+ or 29. But the way it comes is pretty friggin' sweet for all around thrashing.
    We get only 12" maybe pow over the winter. give any big storm ~6" a week and its groomed. I have no need for wide tires, hell i seen some guy was killing my strava this year times with a superfly and ice spiker pros!

    But yah i like the flexibility, 26 fat, 27.5 fat, 29+. Would run it 27.5 winter and 29+ summer when i dont want to run my top fuel.

    I had a dropper last bike, dont need it.

    I know i can get a cold weather kit for the bluto, the only worry is the rear shock now... no idea if there is a cold weather kit for it.
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    This was on treks website. Interdasting.

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    Barbegazi in Bluto? I have understood that Bluto does not have enough space for this tyre...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebster View Post
    Barbegazi in Bluto? I have understood that Bluto does not have enough space for this tyre...
    Yes thats the word. Some say under 6psi it will. Maybe thats what hes doing
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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    This was on treks website. Interdasting.

    That loop of housing to the RD is obscene.

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    Iv been on my 9.8 for a bit longer now and I did get used to the wider bottom bracket. Since I have a hard-tail Farley and we have no snow I put on a set of 29+ wheels that I bought second hand. I love this bike with the 29+, tons of traction, lighter and faster. I highly recommend the 29+!2017 Trek Farley EX Full Suspension Fat Bike-bike.jpg

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    I agree with the 29+ wheels...they roll so well and roll over everything. I did put the 4.5" tires on my 27.5 wheels and they work great too, but they require 6psi or less so they don't rub in the bluto. I also bought a set of 26" wheels and mounted 45nrth studded 4.8's for icy conditions and they work awesome! Now i have a crazy good bike for any weather conditions.

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    Wheel sets

    Here is the bike with the three different wheels...love them all depending on the ride. 2017 Trek Farley EX Full Suspension Fat Bike-img_4708.jpg2017 Trek Farley EX Full Suspension Fat Bike-img_4608.jpg2017 Trek Farley EX Full Suspension Fat Bike-img_4441.jpg

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    The first pic looks like you are running the Barbegazi (27.5x4.7?) on stock rims. Looks like a tight fit on the front. How does the ride compare with the stock Hodags?

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    Trek Farley EX 9.8

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    The first pic looks like you are running the Barbegazi (27.5x4.7?) on stock rims. Looks like a tight fit on the front. How does the ride compare with the stock Hodags?
    Yes, that's correct. The fit is very tight both front and back. I can't run more then 6PSI or it will rub the crown. As for the ride, it's pretty similar but with a lot more float and once it get rolling it fast, but the biggest difference for me is, it raises the bottom bracket which minimizes the peddle strikes I've been experiencing. I live in a rocky area witch you benefit with a higher bottom bracket, hence why I also love the 29+ on this bike as it rolls amazingly with the feeling of tire without the rotational weight.
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    So even with the wider foot print the tire still rolls fast? How about climbing under soft conditions? Asking because I have the same bike but all stock. I love how nimble the bike is. My only nitpik is under certain conditions when the snow is soft, the Hodags don't have enough bite and I'm running 4/5psi.

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    Hmmm...not 100% sure because it hasn't snowed enough since I put them on. You can definitely feel the larger tire getting it rolling, but when it's moving it rolls great. I can tell you the tire hooks up great in slippery mud, but I have a set of 26" with 45nrth Dillinger 5 (studded) tires and they work best for snow/icy conditions weather its soft or hard pack but they come with a cost.

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    I found a shop with an EX 8 available in a couple sizes. What sizes did people go with and how tall are you?

    Anyone willing to share what they paid for their ex8? Do the shops have some wiggle room?

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    When will it start coming with a Manitou?

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    I am 6'2"---although I size like I am 6'3" for a bike--meaning XL (21.5) and I would have loved if it came in a 22". Moved over from an XL Borealis Yampa--that being said, it does fit me well. I purchased in November, and the local Trek dealer had to order it in, so list minus a $100 off coupon I had from the Trek Demo day. My wife is 5'7" and needed sized 17.5, and that fits her well. EX 8's.

    Been enjoying them all winter, and plan on using them all summer too. I did build up new wheel sets with Hope Pro 4 hubs and light bikes carbon 75mm rims--set up tubeless, and the weight difference was 3 pounds. Three pounds will not make or break
    anything for me riding, but I need to make sure bike and bag are under 50 pounds when we travel--we have taken to bringing our bikes with us when we vacation.

    Only down side--no studded tires available that fit it in 27.5 size, but I figure by next winter that will change.

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    Cool, thanks for your input. glad to hear it is still fun after the winter of riding.
    You take your bike on airplanes? How do you pack the bike for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by orind View Post
    I am 6'2"---although I size like I am 6'3" for a bike--meaning XL (21.5) and I would have loved if it came in a 22". Moved over from an XL Borealis Yampa--that being said, it does fit me well. I purchased in November, and the local Trek dealer had to order it in, so list minus a $100 off coupon I had from the Trek Demo day. My wife is 5'7" and needed sized 17.5, and that fits her well. EX 8's.

    Been enjoying them all winter, and plan on using them all summer too. I did build up new wheel sets with Hope Pro 4 hubs and light bikes carbon 75mm rims--set up tubeless, and the weight difference was 3 pounds. Three pounds will not make or break
    anything for me riding, but I need to make sure bike and bag are under 50 pounds when we travel--we have taken to bringing our bikes with us when we vacation.

    Only down side--no studded tires available that fit it in 27.5 size, but I figure by next winter that will change.

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    We have Dakine bags--first time we flew with bikes I packed my niner jet 9--these are huge bags, and it means we rent a minivan to haul it around (swallows assembled bikes well). I am in Alaska, and Alaska Airlines is great about not charging us the fee for oversized bags--so long as they are not over 50 pounds, but worst case scenario it would cost us $75/bag each way. BTW--still winter riding--about 3 feet of snow still on the ground. Next trip is to Phoenix Arizona in May--ride trails in the morning, visit family in the afternoon. I was initially concerned about going from my Bud/Lou to a 3.8 inch tire, but that has not been an issue. I thought about building up 50mm wheelset for summer use, but decided to keep it fat (75mm)--yes, 50mm rims with a 3 inch tire would have shed some more weight, but at that point I might as well just take out the Niner.

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    Those must be some massive bags.
    I wish there was some snow around here. All the trails are closed waiting for the spring thaw and everything to dry out.

    Quote Originally Posted by orind View Post
    We have Dakine bags--first time we flew with bikes I packed my niner jet 9--these are huge bags, and it means we rent a minivan to haul it around (swallows assembled bikes well). I am in Alaska, and Alaska Airlines is great about not charging us the fee for oversized bags--so long as they are not over 50 pounds, but worst case scenario it would cost us $75/bag each way. BTW--still winter riding--about 3 feet of snow still on the ground. Next trip is to Phoenix Arizona in May--ride trails in the morning, visit family in the afternoon. I was initially concerned about going from my Bud/Lou to a 3.8 inch tire, but that has not been an issue. I thought about building up 50mm wheelset for summer use, but decided to keep it fat (75mm)--yes, 50mm rims with a 3 inch tire would have shed some more weight, but at that point I might as well just take out the Niner.

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    Are all the EX owners out riding or something? :P

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    Hey Joel,

    Saw your posts and was wondering if you had some info to share about the total bike weights with the various wheel combos you have. I am looking to consolidate to something like your set up. Just wanted to get some additional info if you had it.

    Thanks in advanced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccornacc View Post
    Hey Joel,

    Saw your posts and was wondering if you had some info to share about the total bike weights with the various wheel combos you have. I am looking to consolidate to something like your set up. Just wanted to get some additional info if you had it.

    Thanks in advanced!

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    The only significant difference is in the tire weight. I have three wheelsets: 26 x 4.8 Minions, 27.5 x 3.8 Minions, and 29 x 3 Minions.

    The heaviest tires are the 4.8's.and the lightest tires are 3", pretty much what you'd expect. Rims will vary a little in weight due to width, but it's not that much compared to tire weight.

    If you're worried about weight, this is not the bike for you.

    As a fat bike, a full suspension fatty is going to be significantly heavier than a comparable fatty hardtail. As a plus bike, a full suspension fatty is going to significantly heavier than a comparable full suspension plus bike.

    You don't ride this kind of bike because it's light and fast.

    Consolidation requires compromise.

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    Thanks for the info Nurse Ben!

    The general info is appreciated. I'm riding a Lenz Behemoth 29+ now and while not looking for a weight weenie, I'm looking at this ride to trim a few lbs AND be an all a rounder. The current ride is about 31.5lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccornacc View Post
    Thanks for the info Nurse Ben!

    The general info is appreciated. I'm riding a Lenz Behemoth 29+ now and while not looking for a weight weenie, I'm looking at this ride to trim a few lbs AND be an all a rounder. The current ride is about 31.5lb
    You'd save a pound or two with the carbon frame, get some carbon rims, and carbon trimmings and you get lighter for sure. The biggest ride difference would be the long chainstays; it won't be as agile, harder to manual.

    I rode a Mutz and did wheel swaps for a couple seasons, sold it, now on a Wozo hardtail and looking to get a Fatillac for the same reasons.

    Yesterday, for the first time since last Fall, I rode 29+, I'm not sure I like it as much as I remember. I was missing the 3.8's The 27.5 x 3.8 is a really nice ride, the height and width are a good match.

    As much as I like a big ride, last summer/fall I rode a 27+ 130/120 travel bike and really enjoyed it, but I ran short on travel when riding big lines and park. I'm not a dowhiller, but I like to play.

    So what do you think of the Lenz suspension? Why aren't you considering a Fatillac? Will you keep the Behemoth?

    I may go up on travel for my 27+ suspension, get a new fork for the Wozo, and call it good. It would certainly be cheaper that way
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    I am at 33 lbs (with pedals, EX 8) for an XL frame, light bikes 75mm rims, Hope hubs, everything else stock. Not a lightweight bike, but then I am not lightweight.

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    So how fat of a 29" fits?

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    Any heavyweights riding the EX8?
    I'm 245 lbs and have 265 psi in the shock and I am at 18mm of sag. Hodag tires 10psi front 12psi rear. (Indoor reading, 18 deg F outside, did not check reading outdoors)

    Have not had a chance to get out on the trail yet since I just picked it up. Just riding around the driveway dropping off the sidewalk I am seeing a significant amount of travel, just wondering if I will have a problem out on the trail. (Bottoming out)

    I don't do any jumping or drops just trail riding, roots and rock gardens.
    I will probably be putting in a volume reduction spacer.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lab Rat View Post
    I will probably be putting in a volume reduction spacer.

    Good idea. One spacer rarely does much good. I'd fill it at least halfway up. Which rear shock? If it's a Monarch you can actually put volume spacers into the negative chamber too, which will allow you to run lower pressures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Which rear shock?
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    I have the 9.8. I am 6'4" and weigh 250. I have not had any issue with the shock bottoming out. I run the shock in the middle and it seems to sit high enough for pedaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telebikes View Post
    I have the 9.8. I am 6'4" and weigh 250. I have not had any issue with the shock bottoming out. I run the shock in the middle and it seems to sit high enough for pedaling.
    Thanks, what pressure are you running in the shock?

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    Mountain Bike Action published a review of the EX 9.8. A few quotes: "...The result is a bike that is truly fun to ride and much more capable than it appears.", "...a dream bike covered head to toe in carbon goodies...", "...it seems this fat-tire machine was built to hang with the trailbike crowd...". That last comment sums it up for me. When I bought this bike I was not expecting it to be as agile and to have trail bike manners. I already have a trail bike for summer riding, so it will be very interesting to see which bike I'll be riding when the summer arrives.

    The other interesting thing I discovered was you can adjust the geometry via the mino link!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Y View Post

    The other interesting thing I discovered was you can adjust the geometry via the mino link!
    Are you sure? Every one I have seen does not have Mino Link. Although 1 had Mino stickers on the linkage.

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    From the article. My bike doesn't have the labels but the linkage is identical:

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    Well, I'll be picking up my ex8 in a couple weeks after a quick trip.
    They are going to set it up tubeless so that should be nice.

    They are offering a set of 29" wheels with some sort of dtswiss hub surly rabbit hole 29 rims and knard tires for like $500 or so. Is it worth getting the second set of wheels and tires? I rode my fat tires all last summer so part of me thinks just going to the fearless 27.5 will feel quicker.

    Are you guys running 29" feeling its a big enough improvement to have a second set of wheels?

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    I really like my ex8 with 29+ wheels. It really all depends on what you are riding but they do seems make a difference at times. That seems like a good price are they including a set of chupacabras?

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    It sounds like I could make some decisions on what parts I wanted but at the price they came up with it included the Surly Knards if I am remembering correctly.

    So I'm pretty sure if I wanted to spec it with a wheel/tire combo that allowed tubeless they would be happy to build it up but I'm not sure how much more it would cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Y View Post
    From the article. My bike doesn't have the labels but the linkage is identical:

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    There is no Mino in that photo.....nor does Trek claim to have it on the Farley EX.
    So....you are going to have a really hard time adjusting it.
    And....there is the label that was put on some early releases....even though there is no Mino

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    There is no Mino in that photo.....nor does Trek claim to have it on the Farley EX.
    So....you are going to have a really hard time adjusting it.
    And....there is the label that was put on some early releases....even though there is no Mino
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    There is no Mino in that photo.....nor does Trek claim to have it on the Farley EX.
    So....you are going to have a really hard time adjusting it.
    And....there is the label that was put on some early releases....even though there is no Mino
    I picked this one up last week and assumed it had an adjustable head tube angle.
    I knew the link looked different from the one on the Fuel I was considering.
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    What does a real mino link look like?

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    After a bit of googling, this has to be a mistake, because the mino link requires the ability to rotate the pivot bolts. Google mino link images and you'll see what I mean or look at this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw_SSIiuTwU

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Y View Post
    After a bit of googling, this has to be a mistake, because the mino link requires the ability to rotate the pivot bolts. Google mino link images and you'll see what I mean or look at this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw_SSIiuTwU
    Well...while you were Googling...and in that video, you notice those little black Mino chips that rotate ( not the bolts)?
    That's Mino.
    The Farley EX does not have Mino.

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    Hence why the decals are a mistake. The chips or whatever they are called, don't exist on the Farley Ex. So no mino. I saw another Farely Ex 8 at a LBS and it too had the mino decals. Mine doesn't, so I assume the decals were removed in later builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Y View Post
    Hence why the decals are a mistake. The chips or whatever they are called, don't exist on the Farley Ex. So no mino. I saw another Farely Ex 8 at a LBS and it too had the mino decals. Mine doesn't, so I assume the decals were removed in later builds.
    That's what I posted many posts earlier.
    Glad you are getting the clue.

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    Got out on the trail with my new EX8 today. It was pretty slow going, trying to get the GF into riding off road a bit.
    I jumped off a little rock kicker and bounded down some roots and it was quite awesome.

    This is my first experience with suspension and it is fun. Can't wait till more trails open up and I can try it out where I normally ride.

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    Ran into another guy on an ex8 yesterday on the trail. He said I was only the second person he has seen on one since he got his last year. I guess there aren't too many people riding the Farley Ex yet.

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    Are any of you Farley EX 9.8 riders running a bash ring. I can't figure how or even if I can run one. No ISG tabs,direct mount chainring and pressed in BB. Anyone?

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    I've been looking at full suspension Plus bikes and this strikes me as not so much a fat bike as a Plus-Plus trail bike. I'm intrigued by the idea that I could go 29+, but even in the stock 27.5 x 3.8 what are the tire choices like? 29+ means I wouldn't have a dead end, but I'm wondering if 27.5x3.8 tires won't be available if this model doesn't, ahem, gain traction (had to say it!).

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    What kind of tire pressures do people run for summer riding?
    I'm running around 11-12 psi currently and it seems alright, but I'm curious what other run.

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