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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post
    I'm busy researching the 27.5x4 wheels now but the bike I think I want is the 9.6. It's going to be ridden primarily in the winter and on tracks made by snowmobiles or on the sand near the water (packed). Since we get some freeze/thaw here, I'll probably add studs to the tires. I don't need or want suspension at this point. The 27.5's are probably a good improvement over the 26x4's in terms of patch size.

    If the 27.5's don't work, then I'll get a set of 26x5 wheels and have the best of both worlds. So that would be the downside.

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    The knob height/design of the 27.5 tires will determine if you can add studs. You'll need suitable knob width and and at least 5mm depth for grip studs.

    I'm still skeptical on the 27.5x3.8" tires performance in the snow. They would have a slightly longer contact patch, but their low profile sidewalks will really limit how low of a psi you can run due to the risk of dinging a rim. 3-4psi would get expensive really quick.

    Don't really have any options if they don't grip well either, aside from buying 26" wheels, as the only other available 27.5" tires at this point are skinnier. No studded options in 27.5 either at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paochow View Post
    Don't really have any options if they don't grip well either, aside from buying 26" wheels, as the only other available 27.5" tires at this point are skinnier.
    For anyone in the UK, for a while you won't even have the option to put a new 27.5" Hodag on if you wreck one beyond repair. According to Trek they're not going to be available till mid-November, somewhat after the bikes are due in (my 9 is due late September). And like you said, I've not seen tires in the same size from any other manufacturers yet, so there will be a few weeks of trying to avoid anything that might cut the tire up bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzwardo View Post
    This is pretty much where I stand right now. The only downside would be dropping a large amount of money on a 2nd wheel set.
    Exactly.

    I'm trying to figure out what the contact patch size would be on the 27.5x4 compared to both the 26x4's and the 26x5's. I talked to Trek and they seemed to be of the opinion that if the terrain was mostly packed snow or even snowmobile tracks and the snow had set up at all (i.e. day old or so), the 27.5 would do well. It would also be fine on sand if it was less loose (i.e. near the water) and that it would be better in all cases than the 26x4's and slightly less floaty than the 26x5's. The tradeoff would be that it would be quicker in handling etc...

    If so, that would work for me and should be a pretty safe bet. If not, then the downside is the extra set of rims and I'd be set up for summer and winter well. I had sort of planned on that eventually anyhow thinking that the 5" tires are the ticket for the winter, but I wanted to avoid the expense all at once. My LBS is trying to figure it out as well and may just let me take first crack at either a 7 or the 9.6 so I can figure it out. I'd much prefer it if the 9.6 would work just because of the serious upgrade on frame and components. If the 27.5" wheel is what they say it is, then it's a no-brainer.

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    I have the 9 on order and mostly plan to use it on dirt,my feeling is it should be fantastic on dirt. Several of my friends have 2015 Farley's and all own several other bikes as well, it has become there go to bike now and seeing how much fun and how well fat tired bikes track and handle sold me on one. I would definitely build a set of 26 wheels for winter riding and just because!

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    I am looking at building up a nice steel monstercross bike (Soma Wolverine), but this thread popping up has me getting firm in the pants over the Farley 7 again. Crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    I have the 9 on order and mostly plan to use it on dirt,my feeling is it should be fantastic on dirt.
    Me too!

    We don't get much snow round here so I'll probably take it somewhere that's had a good snowfall just to see how it goes, but it will be mostly on dirt in normal use unless we get a lot more snow than usual this winter (wouldn't mind if we do, actually!). Hoping the 27.5s will be really good for dirt use, but we'll see.

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    I'm thinking of ordering a set of Mulefut 27.5's for my 7 as an option for summer.
    I should be able to run those Hodags just fine, along with the normal + options.
    Yeah I think that's the sweet spot setup right there.
    Not interested in those wide 27.5 rims.

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    LBS had a Farley 5 (15.5) in stock. Appears to have a ton of rear wheel clearance with the 4.7" tire, might even fit the 2XL snowshoe. The front clearance will likely be limited by the fork brace.

    Wasn't a fan of the sliding axle assembly, it's similar to those used on older motocross bikes- threaded rods on each side. On the motorcycle side they were a pain to align especially once they got dirty, although on a fatbike you probably won't have to adjust them often. On the plus side you can fine tune for your tire clearance, but I would think you'd either want it all the way forward or back and a two position flipper mount would be simpler, lighter, with less to go wrong.

    Barbegazi tires looked promising, and were reasonably wide. Looks to have more grip than a Jumbo Jim, but roll better than a GC or Bud/Lou.

    It was pouring rain and the bike was two sizes too small so I didn't ask to ride it. My LBS said they were expecting Farley 7's next week.
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    I had the same thoughts about the Barbegazi tires just from the pictures I've seen/promising.

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    Looking for Farley 5 carbon fork ? Thoughts ? Think Trek will sell one aftermarket ?

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    My thought is get the 7 - problem solved. You'll end up spending the same - more or less. Maybe a few hundred more than getting a carbon fork later.

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    Why not just go for the Farley 7 with the carbon fork and a few other upgrades.


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    This is like the 15" wide or 16" wide snowmobile mountain track debate
    Fatbike, XC bike, Gravel Bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarplex View Post
    This is like the 15" wide or 16" wide snowmobile mountain track debate
    It is?

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    Went to a local shop to order a 5 and they said "How would you like it tomorrow?" I'm a new member so thanks for all the info in this thread and the forum in general. It is an extremely helpful resource. Here are some pictures. I rode a sand dune area, crossed four beaches, gravel, pavement and some dirt single track for about 22 miles so far. I really like this bike. I had the tires at 8.5psi and everything felt pretty good.2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-dsc_0365.jpg2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-dsc_0366.jpg2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-dsc_0369.jpg2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-dsc_0370.jpg2016 Trek Farley 5, 7, 9, 9.6, and 9.8 Fat Bikes-dsc_0373.jpg
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    Stopped by my local LBS on Saturday. He has a demo 2016 Farley 5 demo. I'm going to pick it up this week and take out to the local single track for an evening.

    Also put money down on a Farley 7.

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    Congrats Metal8. My Farley 5 should arrive sometime this week. Can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moshock View Post
    Congrats Metal8. My Farley 5 should arrive sometime this week. Can't wait!
    Make sure your weekend is clear. This bike will cause major distraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal8 View Post
    Went to a local shop to order a 5 and they said "How would you like it tomorrow?"
    Looks good!

    Still got a month to wait for my 9, so pictures of Farleys are all I have to look at right now! Usefully, yours just reminded me to find my big water bottle - it won't fit in the frame on my FS trail bike so I've been using a smaller bottle, but the big one should be no problem on the Farley. That's good, now I have a totally rational justification for having ordered the bike.


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    METAL8---your new Farley looks nice!! I love the flat black and orange.

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    Alright Trek heads
    Farley 5 or Surly Wednesday??
    College age son wants to get Fat!!

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    Hard to wrong really. I'm guessing the Farley is a fair bit lighter.
    Love the color of the Surly though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joboo View Post
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    Farley 5 or Surly Wednesday??
    College age son wants to get Fat!!

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    Would love to hear others thoughts on this also! I put a deposit on a Farley 7, but am really loving the Wednesday!

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    I have money on a 7 - no contest except for color.

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    Both will be good just have to choose steel or aluminum.


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    I put money down last weekend on a 7. My LBS has a new 5 in that's a demo. Going to take it for a ride soon.

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    Farley will be more trail orientated. The Wednesday seems to be right in between a Pugs and an ICT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky697 View Post
    Farley will be more trail orientated. The Wednesday seems to be right in between a Pugs and an ICT.
    I've been looking over the geometery quite a bit, they seem to be closely matched don't they? Or am I just ignorant to think that a 1/4" difference makes that huge of difference in the bb drop and chainstay and 3/4" in wheelbase? And the ht angles are the same. Trust me, I am no expert when it comes to this stuff, I am just looking at the numbers!

    I was kind of thinking it was just a decision between steel vs aluminum? Yes, the Surly will be heavier, but only by a couple pounds maybe?

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    Got my Farley 5 last night, can't wait to take er for a spin today! Aesthetically, this bike looks incredible.

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    Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

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    Getting ready to build a Farley 7.....pics incoming


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    Ugh... as if my wait wasn't going to be hard enough!

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    I have the 9 on order but might have the option for the 9.6 and actually is a better deal even though some of the components are a step down,but not significant for overall performance,the cost of the 9.6 and pick up a Bluto for not much more then the cost of the 9 and have a carbon frame and the carbon fork for winter use.

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    And here we go, love the purple pics don't do it justice.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedeezy View Post
    And here we go, love the purple pics don't do it justice.
    The purple looks pretty good to me even in the pics! Hard to say without seeing both in person, but I'd probably prefer the purple to the waterloo blue my 9 will be when it turns up. Not that I'm going to worry about how my bike looks, just how it rides.

    Speaking of which, looking forward to hearing how yours rides.

    And more pics if you get a chance.

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    I don't mind the blue, but I don't think green was a wise choice for the graphics.

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    Holy crap! That thing looks bad a**! Is that the weight with reflectors and pedals? Pretty impressive either way!

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    Yes the blue and green does seem a bit of an odd combination. Might have to wear upside down foggles when I ride, or rose-tinted Oakleys...

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    That is without pedals, but it complete otherwise. 17.5" frame


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    Can't wait for my 9.8 to come in....you know there will be pics....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natedeezy View Post
    Can't wait for my 9.8 to come in....you know there will be pics....
    Ditto with my 9 when it gets here. Do you have a delivery date yet for the 9.8?

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    Not sure, I've heard late September.


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    Same here (UK), I've been told September 21st but that's an estimated date so I don't know whether they really have an exact day planned or it's just an educated guess. Presumably they should know by now what the shipping arrangements are to get the bikes into the UK, so I can only hope there's some sort of plan swinging into action!

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    I want my 9.8 so bad...time to order some R1 racing brakes to go with it!

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    Yes, I've already got a few things waiting to be fitted as soon as it gets here. And I expect the pile will grow over the next week or two! Sad isn't it?

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    Too be fair, it's not like the 9.8 really needs anything else. From current reviews and experience the Sram Guide brakes it comes with are supposed to be pretty solid. And the Race X lite stems are on par weight wise with the XXX lite carbon ones, just no where near as stiff and strong.

    I am just a Formula brand whore. I love the powr and weight. And I am a tinkerer by nature, so the temperamental nature of their brakes is ok by me.

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    The things I've got waiting aren't to replace anything, just additions like pedals and mudguards (so far...). I'm going to run with all the standard equipment at least to start with and see how things go before deciding whether to upgrade anything. I suspect it will mostly be fine for anything I want to do with the bike.

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    Anyone ridden both a 2106 Fatboy and 2016 Farley? I'm a total noob to fatbikes, but rode a Farley 5 in a parking lot and was annoyed at my left heel hitting either the chainstay or crank. Seemed like the crank width was huge. I'm having a hard time finding apples to apples data, but I think the Farley has 121mm bottom bracket width vs 100mm for the Fatboy. Am I reading these specs right? Ultimately, I'm wondering if the pedal-to-pedal width is narrower on the Fatboy?

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    I missed the early boat, my 9.8 is coming in November..

    This will be the first bike in a long time that I don't think I will want to change anything on. The brakes are great, the drivetrain is great, the rest of the spec is excellent. Just have to remove the tubes and install my pedals. I might change the grips too...

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    @Grouch

    The bb width doesn't tell the Q factor story. It's all about the crankset. Comparing apples to apples (ie. Race face Next cranks on both bikes) they will have the same Q factor. I used the 170mm spindle on my 2015 Fatboy and the Farley is setup for the same 170mm spindle. You could swap to the 190 spindle if you wanted more width.

    I did find my calf would rub from time to time on the Fatboy seat stay. Will see what happens when I get my Farley.

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