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    170x10mm hubs with a thru-axle/bolt?

    I just ordered a new Salsa Beargrease X5, but turns out its QR, even though before I ordered and looked at the website, one of the frame features is '177x12 symmetrical rear spacing.' I guess its spaced at 177, but the dropouts only take 10mm QR? Kind of misleading.

    I do really want the bike and like everything else, was going to put bluto up front and then an x9 1x10.

    Question is does anyone make a skewer/bolt or thru-axle that is an actual 10mm vs using the 5mm QR. Is it even worth worrying about on a rear tire that will be sitting at 6-8psi? I know, you get what you pay for... as far as a $1500 fatbike but I really like the alloy beargrease.

    I can get a deal on a carbon x7, but then my upgrade budget is shot and carbon is not important to me with this bike.

    Bike will be here and built this week.

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    Looks like they exist, but you'll have to swap out the rear hub, which starts pushing the "why bother" button.
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    since it's a hardtail, as long as the QR skewer is a good quality one and the wheels is installed in the frame properly, it should be fine. I use a QR on my 29er hardtail and my fatbike rear wheels, and they haven't failed me yet.

    Front axle, I'd definitely make sure it's a thru-bolt/thru-axle design though. I have a 135mm QR on my fatbike, and with a steel salsa enable fork, you can really tell there is flex.
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    That's just a regular QR. The axle itself is 10mm (and hollow), and the QR skewer is 5mm. Like watts posted, if you want a bigger bolt, you'll likely have to do a wheelset change. Theoretically, any hub you can get in a fat width with 10mm DT RWS endcaps could take a 170x10mm bolt/skewer, but hubs that offer that option are limited and tend to be expensive ones. Hope, I9, DT Swiss (of course), and just a few others will offer that. It's not clear to me if the bolt-on axles watts posted will work in ANY hub available with 10mm endcaps. Maybe, maybe not, but a wheelset change would be pretty pricey when you're talking about these sorts of hubs.

    You may have missed a couple of things on the BG frame specs that differ in some cases between carbon frames and alu frames. Seatpost diameter is another.

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    Here's a thought:

    does anyone make an allen bolted fat rear 170mm skewer? Something like the Control Tech or Halo skewers?

    I've found those can make a little difference over a standard QR. Plus, they look slick and sano. Will buy it if I find it!
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    Beargrease x5 order canceled. Walked out of store with Carbon X7 for 2299 and rode snow covered trails for lunch.... QR concern no longer a concern. Buying Bluto anyway... why. Because 'merica! that's why.

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    I have a salsa hub with a 170x10mm thru bolt.

    Only one I have seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvo1 View Post
    I have a salsa hub with a 170x10mm thru bolt.

    Only one I have seen
    It's a formula hub. I've seen it also.

    Novatec makes one also.

    Hope makes endcaps for a 10mm thru axle, but no skewer.
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    It's a formula hub. I've seen it also.

    Novatec makes one also.

    Hope makes endcaps for a 10mm thru axle, but no skewer.
    Deja Vu from the threads that I originally searched/read before starting this one... In 6 months, someone will search this topic and find my thread as well as others, read it and wonder if anything has changed... and start a new thread only to find themselves caught in a never ending cycling of non-10mm-thru-axle-ness.

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    ^yes, I've reread those a few times myself. I may just have to order a fatback import hubset or novatec rear wheel just to get the rear hub with a 10mm thru axle followed by a sale of the front hub or rim to recoup some small amount of fundage for spokes. Leaning towards the fatback import set to get some color and I figure the front hub will help more to fund spokes. I could keep the front hub, but then I'd need a new fork. I could have 2 wheelsets then I suppose...

    Won't somebody just sell a 170mm rear hub with a 10mm thru axle please? I'm not the only one interested...
    I don't know why,... it's just MUSS easier to pedal than the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    ^yes, I've reread those a few times myself. I may just have to order a fatback import hubset or novatec rear wheel just to get the rear hub with a 10mm thru axle followed by a sale of the front hub or rim to recoup some small amount of fundage for spokes. Leaning towards the fatback import set to get some color and I figure the front hub will help more to fund spokes. I could keep the front hub, but then I'd need a new fork. I could have 2 wheelsets then I suppose...

    Won't somebody just sell a 170mm rear hub with a 10mm thru axle please? I'm not the only one interested...
    Thankfully, because its an awesome bike, I went with the beargrease c x7, but that was my original plan had I gone with the beargrease x5. But it would have been a pain depending on the hub if it would have taken the 10 mil thru-skewer or did it have pure qr endcaps and not convertable for a 10mm skewer. Then Im rebuilding wheels with new hubs or trying to perform surgery on the hubs came with. And ultimately, I would have just left it QR... until I had a real reason to build a new wheelset (carbon or something like a plus wheel for summer or for a 15mm hub for a bluto).

    Now that I YOLO'd on the carbon beargrease, Im happier with the build spec anyway and have th 12/15mm f/r TAs as a consolation.

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    This is what I meant for the QR thing.

    Hex Key Skewers | Hubs - Skewers | Hubs/Cassettes | Products | Halowheels.com

    Though I'd happily convert my Hope Fatsno 170mm to a bolt to.
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