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    What's even better than building a kid a bike?

    Building them a spot to ride...

    Been getting pretty busy on a little pumptrack project the past few weeks. Lot of work (and lots to go) but it's starting to flow pretty nice. My kid is the official test pilot. Been having a lot of fun doing it.









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    Very cool.

    I can relate... tonight just started laying the way for a mtb skills loop on some land we have out in the woods. The kids are excited.

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    Awesome, why do these threads get 2 responses but the ones about building your kid a 12lbs 24" bike get 200. I'd much rather see threads about riding with your kids than about blinging out their bikes.

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    Looks fun! Nice job.

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    Hadn't seen this! How cool. We're lucky to have dirt jumps with a pump track built new last year (hopefully open for the Spring soon) and heaps of natural singletrack around our village. If I had the space in my garden to build a pump track I would!

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    Thanks guys.

    I've been into trailbuilding (or trying to) almost as long as I've been into riding, which has been about about 24 years now (I'm 47). This is actually something we're doing on town recreation land, and they hooked us up with hand tools, storage, and a bunch of dirt. Most of the work has been done by myself, another crusty old MTBer and recently a 20ish BMX kid.

    When I started riding, I was into the equipment more too, but at this point, I can build a bike in my sleep. I do still like wrenching once in awhile, and have a pretty good pile of bike related **** to mess with, but playing with g-forces is way more interesting to me. This the biggest pumptrack style thing I've tackled (built a fair amount of XC trail previously), so I'm hoping we can pull off something pretty sweet. Seems to be working well so far, the entire dirted section in the pics can be almost effortlessly pumped cleanly down and halfway back, in either direction. It's tough for people to relate to what goes into trying to build something that rides like that. For me, it's a great creative outlet, not a bad workout, and my kid thinks I rule.
























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    Quote Originally Posted by longboarderj View Post
    Awesome, why do these threads get 2 responses but the ones about building your kid a 12lbs 24" bike get 200. I'd much rather see threads about riding with your kids than about blinging out their bikes.
    Me too.

    Fancy parts don't have all that much to do with how much fun is had IME

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    That looks such fun.

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    Still digging here...got a continuously pump-able loop now with a number of line choices and direction changes developing. Did I mention there's nothing better than playing with big piles of nice dirt?



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    Great day riding with the boy, and the track is really starting to ride in pretty sweet. Finished spreading the first 60 yards of dirt, and have more on the way next week. Starting to get some of the local young kids showing up to take part in the fun too.








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    Not that I've got any pump track experience, but to me that looks totally cool!

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    thanks man. We're in large part making it up as we go. Super fun project, and will probably give me somewhere to throw dirt around 'til they throw dirt on me. I'm really happy with the way there are just endless line choices cropping up. Word has started getting out around the elementary school crowd and people have started coming down to see what's going on. I think we're going to get a good buzz going around it this summer. Been getting some great feedback.

    So pictures only tell so much - even though my test pilot was pretty worn out, he said he do a 'slow and low' run for a video. You can see the spots I still need to tweak - any spot where he seems to run out of rhythm or has to throw in a pedal, that means I haven't got it quite dialed in right. I've moved a handful of pumps 4 or 5 times - it's a really iterative process. But there are a couple spots that are working well, and people are digging it.

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    Finally got to the point on our p-track project where it's really starting to be fun to ride. See how many line options you can spot...goal is to make everything rideable from most directions, preferably w/o having to pedal. Now that we've got a decent bit of rideable stuff established, we can get a better idea how to incorporate some of the bigger natural features on the perimeters into the flow. I need a dirt cannon.





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    Cool! Did you use a bobcat or anything? or all by hand?
    Is this near Wachusett?
    Also, the pump tracks I have visited all had a direction so a few people could do it at once. This seems more like a skate park. How does it work when a bunch of kids are out there?
    In any case, that looks awesome. I hope it stays that way and some idiot does not come and ruin it with a dirt bike or quad or jeep or something.
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    Thanks!

    No machinery, just a couple middle aged guys with a wheelbarrow and hand tools and a cooler. We have a previous relationship with the recreation area that we're building it in from the XC trails we've built. Our town took a survey and top of the wish-list recreation-wise was more places for kids to ride bikes. So they keep giving us dirt, and we keep spreading it.

    It's close enough to the Wachusett Brewery to smell a batch cooking. Tough thing is, the recreation area is a 'residents and guests only' set-up. That's a huge reason that we've had to do it with so little manpower; you can't ask people to come work on something they can't just go ride anytime they want. If that wasn't the case, I'd be able to tap to a ton of experienced help. But whatever, we'll get something going and hopefully get some more locals into it. Worked with our XC projects. We're already getting some kids hitting it a couple times a week after school, once word gets out, there's definitely a group of younger riders looking for somewhere to shred around town.

    I don't worry too much about anybody trashing the place on purpose. I live in a fairly small town and people are pretty good about that kind of stuff around here.

    It's funny you mention the 'skatepark' thing; one of the main guys behind a really popular area pumptrack (one of very, very few good ones in New England that I can think of actually) came down the other day to hang and help out the other day, and we talked for awhile about exactly that. A lot of the 'next season' stuff will actually build on that concept I hope. Building linearly is actually a lot less interesting to me, and this is more what my kid is into, and so that's what's happening. Those who dig, decide.

    A few smaller kids or slower riders can ride at the same time, but in general, you need follow more of a skatepark etiquette. Rip around, then pull off, let the next rider take a turn. Since we should never see all that much traffic at one time, it's something I think will work here that wouldn't if it was open to the general public. And of course, with a little communication, it's easy enough to wagon train it around a set loop. A philosophy that's always worked for me in the past has been 'throw dirt at it 'til it turns into something', so we're pretty much sticking with that.

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    Really like the look of it, and the philosophy. Our dirt jumps/pump track are open now, but still a bit wet to ride. We've had a very wet Spring here!

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    This is really cool stuff, love it!!! Early this spring when the off road season was not open, I rode my dirt bike in one of my buddies backyard, pretty much the perimeter of about 5-6 acres of land. But now kids started riding their bikes there because it's about 1200 long and cool. This is mostly flat with a few tight turns and a couple of natural jumps. Since they enjoy it so much we are thinking to built a pump track section in the middle of this area. Unfortunately none of us has any experience with that, any suggestion on where to find some good resources would be appreciated, Google got me a whole bunch of stuff but not necessarily what I'm looking for

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    Thanks!

    This thread is good place to start:

    DJ , Pump Track plans

    Also, if you have any other pump or BMX tracks in your area, spending some time riding them and getting some ideas is pricelesss. Sounds like you've got a good spot to work something into, definitely fun and worthwhile project.
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    Thanks for the good advice. If I was closer I would definitely pay a visit

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    Would love to have you guys (shout out if you're ever in MA), but you've got some places to go get a feel for stuff around your area I'm sure. There's just no substitute for the experience of actually riding a track that works well if you're looking to build anything. I dunno what kind of riding your kids are into, but mine always has a blast at indoor parks and loved BMX race tracks when he was younger too. Spending a little time at places like these will help get the creative juices flowing. Not to mention really help up anyones bike handling.



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    Finally finished up (for now) on the 'hood track. Time to put down the shovel for the summer, at least as far as major work goes. I've got well over 200 hours in since the snow melted, and I've grown to hate my tamper (though I still like shovels). We spread the last of 80 yards of dirt this past weekend and got things into good enough shape to go into 'tweaking and maintenance' mode for awhile - just in time for the hot weather and mosquitoes to make their appearances. Pretty happy with how it came out and hoping to do some major expansion this fall and next spring. Kids are digging it!








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    Amazing stuff, enjoy it! Wish we were closer

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    We will, for sure. Thanks!

    The rec area folks are super happy with it and want to 'officially' open it up and even start doing some activity sessions for kids there and on the trails we built for hiking and XC, so that gets me pretty pumped. Now the trick is to somehow get the idea out to parents who may not have any idea what the hell a 'pumptrack' even is, that it's actually a place your kid is gonna like riding a whole lot better than the driveway, and a sweet spot to chill out and have a picnic too. I'm basically just hoping to see a bunch of people messing around on it.
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    Your community is lucky to have you that's for sure.

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    That's a lot of work, and most likely a thankless job. But hopefully the inspiration you give to the young kids will pay off in the future. Good job.

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