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    They should add in the wholesale cost of a coaster hub wheel, plus the extra shipping, and then just ship the U.S. bikes with both wheels in the box. I can't imagine it'd be that much different in cost, it's a kid's wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH View Post
    Is Spawn able to export Banshee's into the states without a coaster brake? Looking at the Norco Scorpion image closely online and it appears that it comes with both a coaster brake and a V brake. I just can't see spending more money and having a high friction coaster brake when I already have one here.
    Spawn states on their site that the consumer is solely responsible for all input duty and legal requirements. The only issue I've heard of them having is with the Gremlin, and that's a trademark issue with Schwinn (who also sells a bike called a gremlin).

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    Derp! I was confusing bikes. I thought since I bought our Banshee they went to a coaster brake for the US, but that was not the case
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkavan01 View Post
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    quite a bit of dish required.
    Tkanvan01,

    Did you ever try to do this? I am seriously thinking about trying to do it now, and even though it will be a helluva amount of dish, my 35# son should be alright, and I'll have to limit him to only 5' high jumps to flat landings.

    Did you have to spread the stays out to get the hub in?

    From your picture it looks like there could be some interference with the V-brake bosses on the non driveside spokes, does it look like that to you?

    What kind of hub is that? I just did a quick search for a bolt on rear hub, and didn't find much.

    Thanks for any info - BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    Tkanvan01,

    Did you ever try to do this? I am seriously thinking about trying to do it now, and even though it will be a helluva amount of dish, my 35# son should be alright, and I'll have to limit him to only 5' high jumps to flat landings.

    Did you have to spread the stays out to get the hub in?

    From your picture it looks like there could be some interference with the V-brake bosses on the non driveside spokes, does it look like that to you?

    What kind of hub is that? I just did a quick search for a bolt on rear hub, and didn't find much.

    Thanks for any info - BS
    I tore apart an XT mtn bike hub, removing the lock nuts to get it to fit, I did not go any further bc it seemed stupid to continue, as soon as you add the rear cassette the locking cap part interfered with the frame. I did debate cutting the rear hub and taking a small section out of the middle and rewelding it, but I don't have access to an aluminum welder so i skipped that idea as well, maybe I should rethink it though.

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    I got a Gremlin finally!! Just had it shipped to a buddy in Calgary who then shipped it on down to me....

    It's great, my son who will be 3 in about 2 more months spent about ten minutes walk-riding it last night like he does on his balance bike, then about 20 minutes this afternoon doing about the same before he pedaled away from me under his own power...so cool!!!

    He's always been in the 50th percentile for his height and weight, so one thing I did to modify his a little was to swap out the seat and seatpost for a smaller/lower seat from his big sister's Islabike, and a plain seatpost with the separate old school seat rail clamp that can be flipped upside down to get the seat as low as it would go so he can tippy toe while seated...next up some 2.125 tires for his birthday in a couple months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evandy View Post
    Anyone hear anything about when the new Banshees will start shipping? Getting close to the end of the month!
    Well, mine hasn't shipped yet ;( Max at Spawn told me a couple weeks back that it all depends on when the parts arrive through customs... here's hoping that all gets settled soon!

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    Just got notification that the new Banshee has been "Completed." No tracking number, so presumably it will ship out in the next couple of days. I'll get you some photos when it shows up (next week, I assume)...

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    Thanks for starting this post BullSCit, it was a major contributor to us buying this bike.

    Speaking of which, we ordered the banshee in Oct, it showed up today. YAY! Now I have to wait until kiddos birthday in January to give it to him.

    Is it January yet?


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    And then wait till may for the snow to melt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernblades View Post
    And then wait till may for the snow to melt.
    That's what gloves are for!

    Apparently, my banshee shipped 7 day instead of 2 day... Should show up Thurs.

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    Banshee finally showed up today, after 9 days with no scans from USPS. Box was damaged, and the powercoat on the cranks was scratched, but fine otherwise. Went together smooth as silk, just like the Gremlin, and the new lower seat is JUST low enough for my 4yo. By spring I'll probably be able to bump it up a bit. Hopefully it'll warm up enough that she can get out to give it a test ride soon.

    Now to hope the 2yo grows enough for the Gremlin by March.

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    What color is that? I doesn't appear on the Spawn website currently.
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    Just an update to our Spawn. I added a 3 spd freewheel to give a better range of gearing and prep her for the next bike. I used an SRAM X7 der and SRAM twist shifter i had laying around. Works great
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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    What color is that? I doesn't appear on the Spawn website currently.
    Its was the pink color offered on the V1 Banshee. I just looked at the site and I guess they are not offering it for the V2

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    Darn. Pink would be the easy choice for my girl. It looks great too.
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    Pulled the trigger today on a blue one!!! I am way more excited than she is but I expect that will equalize once it's here and she's rocking it. It might be a tiny bit big at first. She rode a HR16 in the store the other day and with the seat slammed could just touch the ground with the tips of her shoes.

    Thanks everyone for chiming in about these. Very inspirational and influential.

    I wonder if I can lace a IGH hub into the rim...

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    Congrats, fire_storm. I hope that you and your daughter enjoy it!

    My 4yo had a rude awakening last week. She insisted on going out to ride on the banshee despite ice and snow. When the tire slipped out from under her due to black ice she had no idea what just happened. Poor her.

    Oh, well. She's still looking forward to getting back on it in better weather.

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    Bummer. Hope she isn't too shaken. It's great isn't it how kids don't know that bad weather and dicey conditions are bad until we convey it. Every morning that I'm taking her to "school" I ask if she wants to ride her bike or take the truck, she choices to ride her bike. Pouring rain, dumping snow, sub freezing temps, whatever, the weather doesn't seem to be a factor. That's the kind of exuberance and innocence we parents need to re-learn and not un-teach. Fine line between the safety and living. I lean towards living. But always with a helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    She rode a HR16 in the store the other day and with the seat slammed could just touch the ground with the tips of her shoes.

    -G
    I ended up swapping the seat and seatpost to get the top of the seat about another 1" lower. The seat that Spawn uses has pretty profile from the rails to the top of the seat, so be looking for another seat with lower-profile (I used the islabikes seat off his sister's bike which is both small overall as well as lower profile)....and the seat post is a regular MTB single bolt offset post which is fine BUT if you go with a seatpost with the old style clamp that is separate from the post (like found on most all dept store bikes) you can flip the clamp so the thru-bolt that holds it together is above the rails and drop the height lower. each mod gains about a half-inch independent of each other....hope this helps!

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    It will, thanks. I remember reading your post on this a while back. I'd forgotten it though. I think I might have the parts on a big box store bike that would work.
    Thanks again-
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    also, a mini bmx seat and shim gets it close to an inch lower.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Has anyone else noticed that Schwalbe has a 16" Big Apple Tire?? I'm thinking that it might be a nice upgrade for our blue Banshee if/when we need some new tires. On the other hand, the tires that come with it are fairly slick. I wonder how much difference it would make...

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    I would say the extra 1/2" will make it a lot softer on the bumps. I run 2.35 big apples on my street bike, and I love the Cush. They roll plenty fast and are semi thorn resistant.

    I just wish black jacks would restock.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    What size pedals are these? 9/16" or 1/2"?
    Thanks!
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    Oh and, enter the FURI!!!
    They changed the name of the Gremlin to be able to import into Schwinnland USA.
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    They finally got the rename complete? Glad to hear that! My oldest started off on a Gremlin and loved it. She's on a Banshee now and the Gremlin is passed down... but it's a great bike. Glad they can finally import it into the US again.

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    9/16". Only cheap one piece cranks use 1/2" these days.

    And the black jacks shipped today!!!!!
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencerb View Post
    Thanks for starting this post BullSCit, it was a major contributor to us buying this bike.

    Speaking of which, we ordered the banshee in Oct, it showed up today. YAY! Now I have to wait until kiddos birthday in January to give it to him.

    Is it January yet?


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    It's January! Son has ridden this bike a couple times. Took him less than 10 min to pedal, steer and stop coming from his runbike. Definitely going to have to put a smaller chainring on the front as he's having a hard time going up hill. For those that went to 22t, was it too low? or did it work out?

    Also, the one that we got had the flipflop hub. If I wanted to to up in teeth in the rear, would I just toss another gear on the opposite side?
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    I'm running a 24T up front and a 3-speed 16-22t in the rear. No derailleur or shifter yet, but I manually throw it on the 22T for trail riding so he can climb hills and on the 16t for pavement cruising. This setup works with the stock chain.

    24/22 gives him a low enough gear to climb most of the hills on our local trails.

    To answer the other part of your question, I removed the stock freewheel after putting on the 3-speed on the other side. But you could also run the stock 14t on one side, a larger freewheel on the other, and flip the wheel as needed.

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    I started with the 22T up front, and it really helped my daughter on the hills around our house, but she spins out pretty fast on downhills and roads (which really isn't a bad thing, as speed hurts). It all depends on how big your hills are, and how hard he/she will try before giving up.

    What I really would love is if someone would make me a smaller width rear hub (basically cutting out a chunk between the two flanges), like what is being talked about before on this thread, so my 3 year old son can use it. The 3 speed cassette is alright, but it is heavy and doesn't give much range. My daughter is now on a 20" bike with a 9 speed 11-34 cassette, and it is amazing what she climbed right off the bat compared to the 3-speed Banshee. Yeah the bigger wheels help, but it is mostly due to the 300% range instead of 50%, and be able to rock crawl up steeper hills. If anyone can make this hub, I have money for your talents.

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    I second that---I would really love to have a 7-speed or 9-speed cassette on the Banshee.

    And in the future, I would have happily paid the same price as the Savage 1.0 if it had come with standard mtb rear hub spacing and a 7/9 speed rear cassette/derailleur/shifter.

    Spawn? Islabike? Anyone?

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    Awesome, thanks for the replies! Sounds like I will pick up a 22t front for him since we do almost all trail riding. He can out pedal me running beside him on our street which makes me nervous.

    Regarding the flipflop hub, would I just drop something like the following on the second side in addition to the 14t hub it came with? Shimano Single Speed Freewheel | Chain Reaction Cycles

    Here's a video of him riding our local trails on his runbike: Bens Ride - YouTube

    It will be a while before we can get his banshee there due to size and comfort, but I don't expect it will be long.
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    I went for a 22t chainring on my son's 16" bike, and 16t on the freewheel. (12 inch hotrock was 28/18 iirc) and he manages slight hills more easily.

    BUT I wish I had gone for 18t freewheel. Infact I may buy one and give it a try. I don't know how much difference those 2 teeth would make. I was worried about him spinning out, but he doesn't, and still has plenty of speed.

    He also has short cranks (89) and as he grows I will replace these with the next size up, which might help too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    What I really would love is if someone would make me a smaller width rear hub (basically cutting out a chunk between the two flanges), like what is being talked about before on this thread, so my 3 year old son can use it.
    BSC- I made a couple preliminary measurements of an older 135mm 7-speed cassette hub (Shimano Deore DX) that I have kicking around. To go from 135mm to 108mm axle width, 27mm of width needs to be removed. Problem is that the centerline of the hub then is only 5mm offset from the drive side flange center, very little dish for the spokes on drive side, more typically hubs have around 19-20mm of offset from the drive side flange to the hub centerline but the light weight of a 50lbs kid should give you much less of a need for lateral strength so it might still be OK. You could probably help the spoke geometry by using a singlewall rim and re-drilling the spoke holes offset toward the non-drive side to get a bit more of a dish angle on the drive side.
    8/9 speed width cassette body hub is definitely a no-go, the drive side hub flange would be at the hub centerline. Another possibility is to go with a 5-speed freewheel and threaded hub instead of a cassette. A 5-speed freewheel is even narrower than a 7-speed cassette so leaves a bit more room for getting the drive side flange offset from centerline.

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    GJ,

    I posted something on the Fat Bikes forum about this, as people are talking about doing the exact opposite, and adding material to a 135mm hub to make it a 170 or 190mm rear hub for a conventional (non-Surly) dropout. I came to the same conclusion you did, that the dish on the drive side spokes would be almost perpendicular to the skewer/axle bolt. Not sure how to get around that, and maybe would be able to spread the dropouts a bit (I wish for once it was steel). Seems like if you cold spread it out to 120mm and then cut 15mm off of the hub width.

    Sorry for my ignorance, but are free-hubs all the same just not as wide from 7 to 10 speed? What I really want is range, and I could live with losing 3-4 gears in the middle, if I can still have 11 and 36.

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    8/9/10 speed cassette hub body is all the same width, a 7-speed cassette body is 5mm narrower.
    Probably best solution however is to follow Tigworlds example and adapt 5 cogs of a MTB cassette to fit on a BMX cassette hub which is intended as a singlespeed so is even more narrow. See FAQLoad - Adding gears to a single speed BMX

    Difficulty with this is finding an affordable source for suitable BMX casette hubs that take road/MTB cassette cogs. The only SS cassette hubs I find online are prohibitively expensive for my kids bike projects and stuff like this doesnt seem to ever show up at bike co-op, or even on e-bay. Example ss hubs AREs;
    Velocity - Singlespeed Disc Rear Hub
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    Chris King BMX Rear

    Also beware that BMX/TRIALS world more typically uses a micro cassette that takes a tiny 9-tooth SS cog, smaller diameter so not useful for adapting to road/MTB multi-cogs.

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    Expecting our banshee to show up tomorrow. Wish I found this thread sooner, but we ended up getting our 4 yr old a 16" Hotrock last july. The training wheels came off a few months ago and even though it's a great bike, the side pull brake we put on wasn't very inspiring. Gonna try taking him on some easy trails this weekend so we'll see how he does with having better brakes. Looking at the pictures, I'm guessing I'll have to replace those tires right away. Any recommendations? He'll be 5 in May and I think he's around 15% percentile in height so I'm hoping the bike will last him at least until he turns 7.

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    Schwalbe Black jack 1.9s is what I went with. Sourcing was a pain, as they were back ordered.

    The mad mikes are heavier, but easier to source.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    PM'd you. Have tires that I can't use on my 3y/o's Banshee.
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    Got your pm. Thanks for the offer, but I found a brand new set of kenda k50s in my garage from a leftover baby jogger we recently got rid of. They're 1.75 and I would have preferred 2.1s, but not gonna complain at this point. The stock tires were 1.5 I believe.

    The bike came in, but I got dinged pretty hard from ups. It was around 70 bucks in fees and I paid close to 35 for Purolator shipping. Not gonna tell the wifey about that one O_o.

    Got it built up in a little over an hour with the tire swap. The most time was spent adjusting the brakes. With the new tires and no reflectors it's coming in at 15.8lbs. I think I weighed the hotrock 16 at 17.8lbs or somewhere close to that.

    Hopefully we'll be able to get a test ride in tonight. He hasn't seen it yet.

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    Bummer on the fees and dings! Any damage?
    Good score on the tires. Those should be great. Where are you, I was worried about fees but got lucky. I read that the standard Canadian post option was the best way to avoid them. What is Purolatir shipping?
    Congrats, he's going to love it!
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    There was a little damage to the box, but the bike was fine. I'm in Los Angeles and I think Purolator is Canada's equivalent to UPS. I don't remember there being many options for shipping when I bought the bike. Oh well.

    Weight difference is pretty noticeable even though the hotrock was pretty light to begin with. My son loves it.

    First ride.
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    I just got a 26t chainring for my daughter's Banshee. I know 2 teeth isn't much but I just want to take the edge off.

    I ran into an issue though. The stock chainring has holes big enough for the nuts (like the smaller ring on a 2x). The chainring I got was intended for the inner ring on a triple so it fits the bolts, not the nuts(since it was intended to bolt right to the crank spider).

    Did you guys that swapped chainrings find some that were made for a 2x crank or did you reverse the bolts/nuts and shim them? Or some other magic I'm missing?

    Thanks-
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    I ended up using different bolts and spacers.

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    Took my 4 yr old to ride some dirt for the first time this past weekend. He did great, but i still need to play with the brakes. Trying to adjust the front so he can't lock it up so easily. Such a huge difference compared to the side pull brake he had on his hotrock.

    Tempted to get the 2.4" wide kendas now.

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    Thanks to this thread I just bought the Banshee. We live in Austin and have plenty of hills. So from what I've read it looks like the 22 or 24 is working better than the stock 28?
    Ok, so those that have already done the research and have experience, what are the best
    Tire (size)?
    Chainring size?
    Full face helmet/elbow pads?

    He will use these for trails similar to the photo above, but with more rocks thrown in.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    Evs option mini pads are pretty nice.

    Fox also does some peewee pads.

    Seems like the evs pads are a little smaller than the fox peewee pads.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherpaxc View Post
    Thanks to this thread I just bought the Banshee. We live in Austin and have plenty of hills. So from what I've read it looks like the 22 or 24 is working better than the stock 28?
    Ok, so those that have already done the research and have experience, what are the best
    Tire (size)?
    Chainring size?
    Full face helmet/elbow pads?

    He will use these for trails similar to the photo above, but with more rocks thrown in.

    Thanks in advance for any help!
    Congrats!
    I just put a 26t chainring on. Too early to tell if it is small enough. I have a 3.6 y/o and she was doing ok with the 28t but her cadence was really slow. Only one ride since the change so we'll see.

    I put very knobby 2.125" tire on and though it looked great it made the bike a little unwieldy. I could see her confidence dropping so I pulled them after a few days. I have another set of 2.125" tires comeing because I am a slow learner and the stock ones look so skinny.
    Here are the knobbys:


    Here are the others, they're Kenda. I think it is the BMX kontact tread:



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    i went with schwalbe black jack 1.9's.

    they seem plenty big,

    my daughters still a little small for her banshee. if she had already known how to ride a bike, she'd prol be okay on it, but she doesnt have the confidence yet.

    oh well. at least her 5 yr old sis likes the savage.
    crap! i gotta learn to climb.

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    Thanks ya'll. I think I'll just put I different size freewheel on the flip flop hub. I'll have to look into what size is best.

    My son is 4.5 years old and will just barely fit this bike. He is quite a little guy and grows slow so I think we will have this thing for quite a while. I rides really well but was getting discouraged with his crappy rei 12 inch bike that weighed as much as him. I can't blame him. hopefully this works out well. I'll post pics when we get it.

    BTW, how long did Spawn take to ship? I haven't really gotten any communication other than an email that they recieved my order.

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    the banshee took almost a month, but i DID order it right around x-mas.

    the savage took maybe 10 days, but i think it was more like a week. it arrived ALOT quicker than i expected.
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    ok thanks. Did they send you a tracking number or anything? Or let you know that it had shipped?

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    Not even a hint.
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    I pre-ordered a new banshee. After I noticed on their website that the order had been processed/shipped with no tracking label I used their contact page. Max said that CanadaPost was supposed to have sent a shipping notice, but he found me a tracking number regardless.

    2 weeks later, after the bike arrived, I found the CanadaPost tracking notice in my google Spam folder. They sent it at the right time... I just didn't see it.

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    Mine took about five days to get to California. I got a tracking number as soon with my email stating my order was complete.

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    Hopefully the mtb god is smiling on me when I order a furi.
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    I ordered a Savage 1.0 last week for my 5 year old son. Gotconfirmation and tracking number for Purolator from Spawn. The bike went from BC to Seattle and is making it's way across the USA now, estimated delivery is March 26, hopefully without any more fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmfat View Post
    Hopefully the mtb god is smiling on me when I order a furi.
    My oldest got a Gremlin last summer... absolutely KILLER Bike. I hope yours loves the Furi as much.

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    Actually, I sourced some 85mm cranks (custom), and she can ride the banshee, tho the q-factor is atrocious. Gonna pick up some 89mm from spawn when they come in.

    That, coupled with a set of hope/gordos for my 29er, means no furi.

    But she gets better everyday on the banshee.

    Once again, THANK YOU SPAWN CYCLES!!!!!!!
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    My son's savage 1.0 20" arrived yesterday and I was more excited than when my Yelli frame arrived in 2012. What a great looking quality frame, the pictures on Spawn's site do not do it justice. Got it assembled and he rode it for fit for 10 minutes in the rain. When the weather improves will post some pictures.

    If you are on the fence about one of these, don't worry--it's even better in-person and worth the extra money.

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    I was surprised when I saw the chainstay yoke on the savage.

    That frame is made for serious work.

    I'm looking forward to the 24".
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    I want to order up a Banshee for my daughter, but all the colors except red are out of stock. We really want to get her the pink if the wait isn't too long (1-2 weeks).

    I send spawn an email but no reply yet.

    Anyone know the deal? Or does anyone have a good pic of the red color (is it a candy red?) - there is nothing on their website.

    These spawn bikes look perfect! My daughter is already used to handbrakes on her OSET electric moto, so I'm over the moon that I can get her a light bike with no coaster brakes!!
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    Steve,

    I would recommend trying their web contact form, not eMail. Any time I've tried to reach them in the past I got a reply within 24 hours off the web form, but never from eMail. Their spam filter must not like my eMail address...

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    I used their web contact form (not email - sorry my bad). Guess I should be more patient, it's only been 20 hours.
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    Always possible they're swamped... they have the revamped Gremlin/Furi coming out any day now. But slow response is probably the one thing that I'd give them a minus on, alas. Wish they had a phone number... or a US dealer who could contact them for you.

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    I think it depends on where they are in the delivery cycle.

    If they don't respond, they're probably building bikes.

    +1 to the -1 for communication.

    Words really starting to take off about them. I think they are on the cusp of expanding (just my guess), and that's always a rough transition.

    Here's hoping for an idaho shop to pick them up.
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    They responded on my Facebook inquiry in about 3 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmfat View Post
    I was surprised when I saw the chainstay yoke on the savage.

    That frame is made for serious work.

    I'm looking forward to the 24".
    Right, on! I looked it over and told my wife the frame quality is like my bikes. I am so glad that I didn't settle for a boat anchor Trek or Specialized with useless "suspension" fork and that didn't fit as well.

    There was a gamble with fit buying the Savage online but the frame design and that the seat drops down so far provides for a wide range of sizing. The fit range allows for my son to essentially sit only slightly higher than he was on his older 16" wheel balance bike, easy for him to touch the ground to dismount. there's no way he'd get that on a 20" specialized or Trek.

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    Successful 3-speed Banshee conversion

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    Thanks to this thread and some help from Spawn, the above picture is my 5 year old's 3-speed Banshee. I was able to use the original handle bars (the X-5 shifter just barely fits between the bend in the bars and the brake lever).

    The complete parts list for the 3-speed conversion is:
    1) SRAM X-7 short cage 9-speed derailleur (with longer stop screw)
    2) Problem Solver Chain Tensioner with Derailleur Hanger
    3) SRAM chain
    4) SRAM X-5 9-speed rear shifter
    5) Cable housing and zip ties
    6) 16,19,22 3-speed "scooter" rear freewheel

    Unfortunately, screwing in the (custom/long) "low" stop screw far enough to stop the chain from derailing inward also interferes with the throw to the high gear, so the derailleur can over-shift. I would need to modify the derailleur cage to create something for the screw to hit against. As it is now, he can over-shift and throw the chain off of the low gear, but he can't shift into the spokes thanks to the shifter being in the lowest gear (it can't pull the cable any farther).

    I also replaced the front chain ring with a 24T granny gear (required new bolts/spacers). The 24T/22T low gear is low enough he can get up a surprising number of hills. Lower would be better, but it's a balance with the high gearing for the flats.

    I'll keep dreaming that Spawn will someday make a 7-speed or 9-speed 16" bike, but until then, this is a great setup.

    Thanks to all who posted about their 3-speed conversions.

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    awesome!

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    Just wanted to share the latest modifications to my sons Banshee. Got the bike last spring- and added a new flipflop hub with 3 speeds and derailleur. The extra gears definitely helped him cover more trail with less walking, but the spread just wasn't big enough to offer significant help for climbing. So this spring I added a 2nd chainring. Now he has a 22 tooth inside the original 29(?) tooth. Went with thumb shifters as he didn't like the grip shifts on his brothers bike. I tried just running the 22 tooth as a single chainring, but he would redline on flat ground/driveway riding with his friends and get frustrated. While he isn't comfortable shifting on the fly yet, we can put it in the 22 tooth for trail riding, then click to the 29 tooth for downhills or flat bike paths. Going from 22 to 29 has had much more impact than the small difference available in the 3-speed free hub/cassette. This thread has been a HUGE help in my project, hope my post/picture might inspire or assist others in their efforts. My son just turned 6, but is only 37 pounds dripping wet with a full stomach. He has the balance and skills to rip up the trails, but his small size makes the hill climbing tough. And here in Vermont, you can't really go anywhere without some climbing. I know there isn't much of a market for 16" bikes with 7+ speeds in back, but room for a wider hub/cassette would be nice in my situation. After a year of backyard wrenching on the Spawn, I'm still super impressed with their quality design and manufacturing. Everything has held up to my ham-fisted adjustments and wrenching.

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    That is inspiring, FreeHeel!

    I'm in a similar situation with my 5.5 year old being a little guy with enough coordination/skill to ride a 1x9 or 2x10 bike, everywhere we ride is hills, but he's not big enough to fit a 20". Before doing the 3-speed Banshee conversion, I thought that a 2x setup up-front would be better ("one climbing gear and one for-the-flats gear), but I wasn't sure how to execute it. A few questions:

    1) How did you attach the 2nd chain ring, correct spacing, etc?

    2) Can you post close-up pictures of the chain ring setup?

    3) Any tips on front derailleur type?

    4) Which 3-speed freewheel did you use? There are a few different size options out there. The lowest gear combo I found is the 16,19,22.

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    Hi Fireswamp, the 22-tooth chainring attached quite easily. I had some slightly longer chainring bolts kicking around, and just by luck had some washers that must have been designed for the purpose, because they separated the two chain rings so that it shifts just fine. I wish I had some exact dimensions to give you, but since they were just in the spare parts box in my basement from some previous bike I don't know the exact sizes. They almost certainly came off a old mountain bike of mine- nothing special. The front derailleur came out of the same box- I think it is just a top pull LX. I also had some plastic wedges/spacers that went around the seat tube to make the derailleur fit. Re: the 3-speed freewheel, I got the one that others had mentioned earlier in this thread. I can't remember the name, but I'll see if I can find it in my Amazon/Ebay account and let you know. I'll snap some more photos and count the teeth when I get home tonight.

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    I wonder if you could respace the frame to 120mm, if you could find an old 5/6-speed freewheel hub. E.g. Shimano has a 14-28T 6 speed freewheel cassette, if you could find the hub to go with it.

    I wonder if you can re-space an aluminum frame the way you can a steel one...

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    Fireswamp, sorry for the delay... hectic week. I did buy the Como 16-19-22 freewheel off Amazon. In my opinion it is the weak link here- it is heavy and has a fair amount of drag. What can you expect for $10? I notice it every time I back pedal his bike to clean the chain, or turn the pedals with my hand to shift gears for him. As I've thought more about this, I think if I did it all over again I'd keep the stock Spawn hub in back and try a 2 chainring set up in front. I think you might be able to find a 20 tooth ring, and then use the stock 29. I spent a lot of time and about $25 to buy a 29 tooth that was advertised as being "ramped and pined" because I thought it would help in shifting from the 22 up to the 29. Most 28 and 29 tooth rings are designed to be on the inside most position- not middle ring. Orgin8 had one that the website said was ramped and pinned- I found one on ebay, but when it arrived it had no ramps/pins. So I ended up using the ring that came on the bike and it shifts just fine. Lesson learned. The clamp on cable stop for the front derailleur came from Orgin8, 28.6mm. It was super simple- works fine. As for the chainring spacers- as I said I just got lucky that what I had worked. I'm guessing they came off an old 3 ring LX or XT crankset I had, bolts and spacers. I think I had to put the bolts in from the frame size, due to diameter of the nut and how it has to fit in the holes inthe chainrings- so if you can't get it to work from the crank arm side just try from the other direction. Re: the front derailleur, it is just a top pull LX. You will need some shims/spacers to fill out the space from the smallish seat tupe to the inside diameter of the derailleur clamp. If you buy it new you'll probably get what you need in the box- or your LBS can probably find in in the box of extras.

    Hope that helps, good luck!
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    Is this a 1" headset, threadless? What size seatpost does it take? Thanks.

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    For those ordering for the US, did you have to pay a duty on top of shipping? Which shipping method?

    Thanks

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    I went with Canada post express, and did not have to pay duty. I've heard others say that UPS did result in a customs fee.

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    Ditto.

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    Im pretty sure ups ground was my only option for the savage.

    No duties on banshee or savage.

    Ymmv.
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    Thanks to all. Placing order today. They are backordered until late June, so fingers crossed for a speedy delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amom View Post
    For those ordering for the US, did you have to pay a duty on top of shipping? Which shipping method?

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    My Savage was shipped by Purolator, which may have become UPS in the U.S.? I don't recall who showed up at the door. There were no additional shipping charges or taxes when it arrived. It travelled from Vancouver BC to Fairfax, VA, in about 2 weeks, maybe a little under that, ground shipping.

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    What kind of bottom bracket is this, 68 threaded English? Mine (er...his) Banshee is on its way and I'm already thinking about upgrades. It's an illness.

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    Does anyone know the hub width of the first gen Banshee? Is it 110mm like the new Banshee?

    I'm sort of thinking i might try to get an IGH if I can find one in the correct width. I forget if I've read in this thread if anyone tried this or not.
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    Thats a darn good idea.
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    I just took a look, and Sturmey-Archer has some 5 speed IGHs at 111mm; I can't see that 1mm would be a problem anywhere...

    S-RF5(N)
    • 5 Speed low flange, internal gear hub without brake (freewheel)
    • Available in either 119mm or 111mm over locknut
    • Now available with a 9 spline driver
    • New wide gear ratio of 256%

    EDIT: Darn; now I want to get one for my daughter...

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    Yep, Sturmey Archer is what I found! They list that 5 speed 111mm OLD and a three speed hub with 108 mm OLD. Spoke hole count is different but I'm assuming that's the existing rim will be ok given that they are just lightweight little kids.

    grip shift and trigger shifter available for both the five and the three speed.

    my bike shop is looking into sourcing the bits for me and getting me pricing info and they will let me know, I will post up the results if it is successful!

    Edit: many typos due to voice typing on cell phone
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    Please do, XJaredX... although I must note that, once again, you are tempting me to spend money on bicycles! My daughter's birthday is in August; Maybe I'll get a new wheel laced up for her as a birthday present. Only problem I can see is fitting the shifter on the stock bars, since she already has a bell on there. Maybe I can move the bell to her left side, and have it work backwards...

    WHat's the gear range on the 3-speed hub? The 5-speed was somewhere around 250%, which is pretty good.

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    I'm having trouble scrolling the specifications window on my phone but I think it is 177% for the three speeds. I'll keep you updated even if it is a failure, lol
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    I got a Banshee last night, took it apart, and weighed each component. Hey, I'm a weight weenie at heart. If you're interested, I posted it in the WW forum: Spawn Cycles Banshee 16" weights

    Frame = 1081g or 2.4 lbs

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    XJaredX: You win.

    I have asked my LBS to spec an SRF-5 16" wheel for me. We'll see if they can source the part... The only US website that lists the 111mm hub is Bike Tools etc., and it is out of stock at the moment. Per eMail, they will not have more for "several months." Here's hoping my LBS can see about squeezing one out of UBS or another distributer.

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    Haha! I was just at my LBS for something unrelated after asking them yesterday to search for a hub, and they aren't having any luck either. This might be tricky!
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    I am exploring the idea of ordering (gasp) direct from China if my LBS can't find anything.

    Place that will drill a 28 hole 16" rim:

    Online Shop 16" Aluminum alloy bicycle rims,Colorful Anodized/Powder coating Available, Free Shipping!|Aliexpress Mobile

    ...and eBay China has wheels built with the SRF5 (for a Brompton) but I am unsure if the rim width is acceptable. And unsure if I am confident enough in trusting eBay China
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    Or just wait until they come in stock again at BTE? Can't hurt to email and ask them about it...

    Personally, I wouldn't trust ebay china (without living in china)

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    Instead of eBay China, I'd pay the premium to get it from SJS Cycles in England. $50 more than ordering from a US distributer, but a reputable company instead of a foreign-country eBay? Simple question to me.

    Sturmey Archer 5 Speed SRF5

    Just make sure you get the 28 hole version...

    Couple that with a 28h wheel like This one from Niagra Cycle, and you should be good to go for $300 or so. (Just need spokes and wheel-building)

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    Oooh, thanks, that helps! I'd rather not go the asian route unless I absolutely have to.
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    I rode a Rohloff 14 gear Speedhub for 5+ years on a 42# all-mountain Santa Cruz Bullit, and there is no way I would put something like that on my kid's bike. It was heavy, and it was so inefficient with so much drag. I went from barely hanging on a pedally ride with a buddy, to squashing him the next week when I went back to a conventional drivetrain with everything else the same on the Bullit. Range is awesome, but efficiency is much more important, especially for little guys/gals. My 3.5 year old is about ready to start riding the Banshee, and I'm going to get rid of the crappy 3 speed rear, and go to the 2 speed front FreeHeel talks about above. Would much rather prefer to put a real rear hub and cassette on back, but it's all about compromises.

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    Where are you guys sourcing your 16" rims from? I need one in black.

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