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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

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    You will need an English thread BMX hub. Almost the same as what comes stock , but stock one has metric thread and will only take 15 tooth max. I rebuilt the wheel with cheap English thread hub from ebay. Then you will need
    Problem Solvers Chain Tensioner with Derailleur Hanger
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    Como Bicycle Scooter Sprocket Wheel 3 Speed Freewheel Repair Part
    http://amzn.com/B009PKMAZY
    Plus shifter and der.

    Its easy with the pink for me. I have a 2 year old coming right behind the 4 yo. She is riding a custom 12" hotrock with freewheel and rear vbrakes.

    I agree with everyones statement about the spawn thou. If i would have known i would have started with their balance bike bc it has brakes that the little ones can use and then moved to the bigger ones. As it stands this one will get many years of use by my girls. This bike has made her a great rider.

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    In case it helps anyone, I was having a hard time finding first Schwalbe Mad Mikes in the US in 16x2.125", but then I realized the Kenda K50 is nearly identical, so then I searched for those but was having a hard time finding them in all black (on Amazon they were either white, or gumwall) so then I found them at Niagara Cycle. I posted this mainly because they seem to have a ton of 16" tires to choose from:

    Tires & Tubes - Tires - 16" - Niagara Cycle

    I went with the knobbier K50's to give him traction on dirt and gravel, but for a moment I did ponder buying some slicks for street riding
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamm3 View Post
    BS

    You will need an English thread BMX hub. Almost the same as what comes stock , but stock one has metric thread and will only take 15 tooth max. I rebuilt the wheel with cheap English thread hub from ebay. Then you will need
    Problem Solvers Chain Tensioner with Derailleur Hanger
    Amazon.com: Problem Solvers Chain Tensioner with Derailleur Hanger: Sports & Outdoors
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    Como Bicycle Scooter Sprocket Wheel 3 Speed Freewheel Repair Part
    Amazon.com: Como Bicycle Scooter Sprocket Wheel 3 Speed Freewheel Repair Part: Sports & Outdoors
    Plus shifter and der.

    Its easy with the pink for me. I have a 2 year old coming right behind the 4 yo. She is riding a custom 12" hotrock with freewheel and rear vbrakes.

    I agree with everyones statement about the spawn thou. If i would have known i would have started with their balance bike bc it has brakes that the little ones can use and then moved to the bigger ones. As it stands this one will get many years of use by my girls. This bike has made her a great rider.

    Adamm,

    Thanks for the info. The PS Derailleur hanger and 3 spd freewheel seem to make sense. Is this what I am looking for in regards to a hub:

    GT Mohawk BMX 28 Hole Hub Rear SS FW | eBay

    Because if I wanted to keep the same rims, I would want a 28h hub? Were you able to reuse the spokes / nipples on yours?

    Are there any other freewheels that would work? I would love to get a little more spread than the +/- 15% of the Como one.

    Thanks again for any info - BS

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    I need to tag this one... my 3.5yo has a 12" pedal bike from grandma which is a little too big. Just got her on a Burley MyKick balance bike, but I think the Banshee will be just right when she's ready for a new bike. She's small, so maybe xmas or next year... shall see.

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

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    These are the hubs i used. Hard to tell on the one u linked if it has correct thread. Spokes and nipples transferred over.

    Como Sprocket Wheel Freewheel 3 Speed for Scooter Bicycle
    http://amzn.com/B0053WWHK6

    Como Bicycle Scooter Sprocket Wheel 3 Speed Freewheel Repair Part
    http://amzn.com/B009PKMAZY

    2 versions i found

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    FMF Powermoto flip flop hub. Link didnt work. I think any flip flop hub will work

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    Adamm, thanks again, and my daughter will soon has some gears. One last question, is that the KMC Z410 chain that you are using? Basically trying to find out if I want a singlespeed chain or a multi speed chain. Yours looks like the pink KMC, but I wanted to make sure.

    Thanks again - BS

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    Just a pink single speed chain..not sure even which one. It works surprisingly well.

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    Wow- great thread! After looking at Hotrocks and Pitboss, I drank the Spawn kool-aide and couldn't be happier. My 5 year old son is a very small guy, just makes it on the seat of his new Banshee. The bike is awesome- light and well made with top shelf components, a huge improvement over the Trek Jett he was riding. I'm eager to try Adamm3's recipe for adding a freewheel and derailleur. Between Ebay and Amazon I think I have the critical pieces covered.

    I do have a question about Grip Shifters and Handle Bar Diameter. So far I've kept the stock Spawn handlebars. I notice a lot of custom bars in this thread. Do Grip Shifters come with shims to fit different handle bar diameters? how does that work? Do I need to worry about this?

    Re: Customs/Duty fees, I live in the states and did not end up having to pay anything extra.

    It is great to have this information resource, thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences.

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    You will need a 25.4mm bar to work with the shifters. That means you will also need a new stem if I remember right. I think the Spawn stuff is 22.2mm (BMX). Nice thing is that the steertube is 1-1/8", so just about any mountain bike stem will work. I would stick in the 50mm-60mm length.

    Stem 25.4 x 60 x 1-1/8 would be ideal

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    My (son's) Banshee came yesterday. I live in PA, ordered it the 20th, so 8 days from western Canada to eastern U.S. is not bad at all. I didn't have to pay customs fees- I should point out that the times I have had to pay customs in the past on Canadian-shipped items were from UPS; Spawn shipped via Canada Post and then USPS.

    Very nice bike. Taking it to the LBS to handle the brakes, and my son is so stoked to ride it! We won't even mess with the 1.8" or whatever street tires on it, I already put the Kenda K50 knobbies on.
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    That is exactly what Spawn told me when i contacted them after i got hit for customs fees. UPS is how mine shipped. I think at the time they were going to stop using them.

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    Yeah, UPS calls it their "customs brokerage fee", which I read online can be circumvented if you call them ahead of time and complain and say something like "I have already cleared the item for import myself" or something.
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    thanks adamm3, 25.4mm is the diameter I couldn't remember. I'm going to rummage through my boxes of old parts and see what bar/stem combos I can find. Appreciate the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamm3 View Post
    You will need a 25.4mm bar to work with the shifters. That means you will also need a new stem if I remember right. I think the Spawn stuff is 22.2mm (BMX). Nice thing is that the steertube is 1-1/8", so just about any mountain bike stem will work. I would stick in the 50mm-60mm length.

    Stem 25.4 x 60 x 1-1/8 would be ideal
    Speaking of bar and shifter.... is than an indexed or friction shifter you installed, adamm3? If indexed, how did you reconcile the multi-speed indexed shifter with just the 3 gears?

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    adamm3, what SRAM grip shifter did you use? Did you use one for the rear derailleur and it just only works 3 gears? Or can the left/front shifter work for the rear on this type of setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    adamm3, what SRAM grip shifter did you use? Did you use one for the rear derailleur and it just only works 3 gears? Or can the left/front shifter work for the rear on this type of setup?
    You getting ready to add gears to your Banshee, Jared? That new 20" geared Spawn bike might fit the bill when it's out... but, then, no fun customizing the one you have.

    I'm likely to be ordering a Banshee for my 4yo to graduate into soon. She's finally about 1.5" up on the seatpost of her Gremlin, and her younger sister is probably going to be ready for it by next year.

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    Yep! He's still 4 but at the point where he can justify a 3 speed with our riding. Plus he is constantly asking about how the gearing on my bike works.

    Trying to see if a Shimano Nexus 3 speed shifter can work... Other than that I dunno
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    I thought I would chime in as I bought my son a banshee as well. I've decided to go with the 2.4 inch innovo tires as the sand and gravel here is too much for smaller tires, as gears, I will wait a bit on those. I did drop the tooth count on the front sprocket to 22' instead of 28 to help my soon get some more uphill power.

    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)-image.jpg
    Forgot to take a before picture, but here is final result

    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)-image.jpg
    Original tire weight

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    New tire weight

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    28 tooth sprocket weight

    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)-image.jpg
    22 tooth sprocket weight

    I also put an xtr chain on the bike because all I had was a nine speed quick link.

    I bought the tires from Unicycle.com - Please Choose Your Country they raped me on shipping, and had nothing else I wanted... Seriously 22 bucks for ground...

    Also max at spawn cycles was awesome to deal with he went out of his way to get my so a green banshee, when all he had in stock was blue

    and finally a video from my son's first track day on the bike in stock form, hope the new tires don't screw up his form.

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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)-alaura.jpgBTW that is my 4 year old Alaura chasing Sean on her Banshee. We have done some changes since moving back to Tahoe from Texas. The 3 speed came off as the gearing does not help much in the mountains. We went back with the 24-24 gearing to allow her to climb some of the easier hills. The 3 speed tallest gear was 20 tooth. We also put on the 20" spinner air fork. It has taken a bit to break in but is working better. Will need to build a disc hub for the front as the v brake mounts are meant for 20" wheel.

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    Adamm3 a few posts up I asked about what shifter you used for 3 speed, any input is welcome!
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    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)

    I used a 9 spd SRAM XO

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    Spawn has just announced that they have a new Banshee coming out in Mid-November. Lower seat and 1 pound less in weight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by evandy View Post
    Spawn has just announced that they have a new Banshee coming out in Mid-November. Lower seat and 1 pound less in weight!
    I am very jealous of it coming with a flip flop hub... but my son enjoys riding his too much to not of had it for the last of the warm weather...

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    Lower seat and a pound less is awesome. My daughter quickly transitioned to her 20" wheeled heavily modified Specialized a week or two after I did the three speed mod to our Banshee, but I don't think it is worth it. It added a decent amount of weight, and the range in gears obtained wasn't enough to justify this. It did help my daughter to understand the basics of shifting, but my recommendation is to keep the Banshee as it is and wait until they get big enough to ride a 20" bike. It sucks, as my 2 year old son is killing it on his Gremlin, and his big problem is he doesn't have a gear low enough for hills, and enough big gear for downhills. I guess another reason why I never have understood singlespeeders.

    I know most kids don't need a conventional 9/10 speed drivetrain at 2-4 years old, but it sure would be nice. Any idea how to fit a conventional 9/10 speed hub into this?

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    Just put in an order for a Bright Blue Banshee (The B bike, apparently). Should arrive just in time for Christmas if they hit their expected shipping date. My oldest is adament that her next bike be a "Skull and Pedal" bike too. She absolutely LOVES her Gremlin.

    Can't wait to see what people think of the new Savage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    I know most kids don't need a conventional 9/10 speed drivetrain at 2-4 years old, but it sure would be nice. Any idea how to fit a conventional 9/10 speed hub into this?
    Review of the Spawn Cycles Banshee (16" wheeled bike)-20130920_231746.jpg

    quite a bit of dish required.

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    Well I just bought a Spawn Banshee for my DD. I hope it all works out can admit a little bit scared. I got it for $180 Sight unseen.
    I know I know, really bad Idea.
    But it is done, I had a it picked up out of town. It was seen by someone else, but at 180, they did not have to be terribly picky.

    sounds like I am replacing, either and or both tires, at least 1 set of break pads. I do not even have the thing in the house yet.

    I am not sure if I am wanting to replace the tires with MTB tires right away, or leave her with the slicks for on road (as I am sure she is a full year/2 years away from the trails)

    any suggestions for tires? the commuter/hybrid style? or mtb style?
    anyone know what the original brand is on the breaks/pads?

    Everyone cross their fingers for me. I could not justify a $400-450 ($380 bike for my 4 year old.) and they are quite difficult to find used.
    180 was a LOT easier to justify. Hope it does not cost me more in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernblades View Post
    Well I just bought a Spawn Banshee for my DD. I hope it all works out can admit a little bit scared. I got it for $180 Sight unseen.
    I know I know, really bad Idea.
    Good luck! $180 is a fantastic price on the bike if it's still in decent shape. If all you have to replace is tires and brake pads, you should be OK.

    My daughter (on a Gremlin still) isn't ready for trails yet. She doesn't have the leg strength or gear inches to be able to handle that yet... As long as the tires aren't worn and dead, I'd recommend living with the ones you've got for a while and see how things go before replacing.

    $480 (bike + US shipping) may seem like a lot... but my DD just had a 12" rental bike on vacation that was nearly the same weight as my rental Moonlander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    I know most kids don't need a conventional 9/10 speed drivetrain at 2-4 years old, but it sure would be nice. Any idea how to fit a conventional 9/10 speed hub into this?
    What is the frame dropout spacing? You should be able to find an old 7-speed road bike cassette hub in 126mm width. The 7-speed cassett body is 5mm narrower than 8/9/10s, but you can fit 8 of 9 cogs from a 9-speed cogset onto a 7-speed body.

    If you want to stick with freewheels, an old 5-speed suntour "perfect" freewheel can bely rebuilt as a 3-speed (total width around 25mm), might also possibly work as a 4-speed. Suntour cogs would offer much lower gearing choices than the 20t 3-speed scooter FW.

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    Well the bike Came in yesterday. it is now nearly 4 hours into decal removal, sticker gunk removal, cleaning, and greasing.
    And the bike is freaking AWESOME.

    The damage to the pedals was just a crack on the outside loop furthest from the bike (not important and non structural). The break pads were al present and accounted for. and in short no damage to the bike that my kids would not have done in the first week of use.

    Even the rear tire, I figure I will let her road ride for 2-4 weeks, before I buy new tires, "in case" she hits any gravel or dirt. right now they are BALD. but not damaged.

    Now the sad reality......
    She will not be big enough to rid it until at least next summer. pictures to follow
    I am so excided.... and she is excited that it is blue.

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    Sounds like a fantastic bargain

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    I Hope this is acceptable practice here.
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    as well as one picture of my current rig.
    the trail-a-bike is often replaced with a chariot, and the older daughter rides up front instead.

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    Hi, just wanted to post up thanks for this great thread.

    My 2.5yr old boy rides his balance bike at the BMX track, BUT I am ready to get him on a Gremlin.

    Does anybody that reads this thread have a Gremlin for sale in the US?

    Since Spawn is no longer shipping the Gremlin here due to a trademark dispute, I would rather buy used, but am also considering looking for someone in the Calgary area that would be willing to ship me a new one ....PM me with replies, thanks!

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    Good idea to get a Gremlin. I got one for my just turned 3 year old early this year, and I am so glad that I did. He progressed so quickly on it, and pretty much rides a lot of singletrack on his own (just got back from Moab where he rode Agate and Jasper trails in North Klondike and Rusty Spur and the downhill of Lazy at the Brand trails). He is tall, and will next summer be on his sister's Banshee, and I'd sell you mine, but I am going to pass it down to my brother who will use it the summer of 2015. But definitely don't miss out on your son getting the chance to progress, as it is truly priceless. The best of luck in your search.

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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    No worries, I know how it is passing kid's stuff around...He's got a good Kazaam balance bike (real tires/tubes and bearings all around unlike strider) that's already spoken for by my brother in law!

    I am waiting to hear back from an old friend in Calgary who may be willing to go pick up one and ship it down here to me....Just depends on his timing tho, he works out of town a ton in the oil industry...

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    So now is time to post, Anyone selling or plan on selling a used Savage in the next.... 3 years?

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    Haha. I got 2nd dibs. Has to be the 2.0!
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    Quote Originally Posted by onespeedpaul View Post
    I am waiting to hear back from an old friend in Calgary who may be willing to go pick up one and ship it down here to me....Just depends on his timing tho, he works out of town a ton in the oil industry...
    The Gremlin is a fantastic bike. I'm about to pass one down to my younger daughter... That said, Spawn is releasing the Banshee 2.0 this year, and I think they said that it has a "lower standover" than the original. The difference between the Gremlin and the Banshee was only 1.5" to start off with... if your young one is big enough, you MIGHT be able to go straight to the banshee.

    It's a shame that they have that trademark dispute. It'll be nice to hear when they get it resolved (by renaming the bike or whatever).... In the mean time, my Banshee 2.0 is supposed to be shipping in time for Christmas; I'll measure it for posterity when it arrives.

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    This thread is a fantastic resource---thank you!

    Does anyone here have first-hand experience comparing a Banshee to an Islabike Cnoc 16? My daughter rides an Islabike Beinn 20 small, and it is fantastic (we bought it from the Portland, OR Islabike store). Moving to freewheel + light bike + hand brakes revolutionized her riding. Now I want the same transformation for my son, who is currently riding an unmodified Hotrock 16.

    Unfortunately, the U.S. Islabike Cnoc 16 comes with a coaster brake, so if I go that route, I'll either self-import the freewheel version from the UK or buy the U.S. version, rebuild the rear wheel, and add a V-brake using the seat stay clamp-on brake bosses posted in one of the Hotrock 16 mod threads (Brake lever and rear hub upgrades for Hotrock 16.). The cost of Banshee vs cnoc16-with-freewheel-in-U.S. ends up about the same (if only the U.S. Cnoc16 came with freewheel, it would be quite a bit cheaper than the Banshee).
    - U.S. version: Islabikes Cnoc 16 - lightweight first bike for kids age 4+
    - U.K. version: Islabikes Cnoc 16 - lightweight first bike for kids age 4+

    The geometry is quite different between the bikes:
    - Horizontal top tube: Cnoc16 (400mm). Banshee (380mm)
    - Seat tube length: Cnoc16 (228mm). Banshee (190mm)
    - Head tube angle: Cnoc16 (71 degrees). Banshee (72 degrees)

    The Cnoc is reportedly roughly 2 lbs lighter than the Banshee at 13.2 lbs.

    Anyone have first-hand experience with both bikes?

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    It is £30 cheaper in the US!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectMayhem View Post
    It is £30 cheaper in the US!
    Yes, but the U.S. model comes with a coaster brake and no rear v-brake bosses (not shown in the picture, but verified with Islabike U.S.). UK wins.

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    That does suck. Though a coaster brake has been brilliant for my 2 year old, I don't think it has a place on a 16 inch bike.

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    Anyone hear anything about when the new Banshees will start shipping? Getting close to the end of the month!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireswamp View Post

    Unfortunately, the U.S. Islabike Cnoc 16 comes with a coaster brake, so if I go that route, I'll either self-import the freewheel version from the UK or buy the U.S. version, rebuild the rear wheel, and add a V-brake using the seat stay clamp-on brake bosses posted in one of the Hotrock 16 mod threads

    The geometry is quite different between the bikes:
    - Horizontal top tube: Cnoc16 (400mm). Banshee (380mm)
    - Seat tube length: Cnoc16 (228mm). Banshee (190mm)
    - Head tube angle: Cnoc16 (71 degrees). Banshee (72 degrees)
    Fireswamp: Did you get the geometry directly from Islabikes? I've been looking around on both the US and UK sites and can't find it listed, even on the owner manual PDFs.

    For what it is worth, the only 16" bike I have found "commonly" available in the US with rear V brake mounts is the Norco Scorpion.

    Scorpion « 16 Inch « Youth « Bikes « Norco Bicycles

    Unfortunately it comes with what I assume is a very low quality and very heavy suspension fork. I'm not sure what's the less of two evils, a coaster brake with heavy drag or a heavy, ineffective suspension fork.

    I have to say with the benefit of hindsight the Spawn Banshee would have been worth every penny over the Hotrock 16 I bought. But I have two boys a year apart so we would have gotten a few good years out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH View Post
    Fireswamp: Did you get the geometry directly from Islabikes? I've been looking around on both the US and UK sites and can't find it listed, even on the owner manual PDFs.
    Yes, the geometry came from Islabike U.S. in Portland, OR. They are very helpful, and wish they could offer their freewheel + rear-V-brake Cnoc 14s and 16s in the U.S. They cannot due to our antiquated bicycle safety laws.

    FWIW, I gave up on the idea of modding a U.S. Cnoc 16 to add the freewheel + V-brake and ordered a Banshee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireswamp View Post
    Yes, the geometry came from Islabike U.S. in Portland, OR. They are very helpful, and wish they could offer their freewheel + rear-V-brake Cnoc 14s and 16s in the U.S. They cannot due to our antiquated bicycle safety laws.

    FWIW, I gave up on the idea of modding a U.S. Cnoc 16 to add the freewheel + V-brake and ordered a Banshee.
    My wife called him yesterday. Unfortunately I was in the shower so I couldn't tell her to get the horizontal TT measurements of the two 20" models. I'll email him shortly.

    We've already ordered a Cannondale Street 20 for my five and a half year old. I want to put some money into his Hotrock 16 (freehub, V brake adaptors, paint job) and give it to his four and a half year old brother. My wife is now questioning if it's worth the money given how quickly our older son outgrew the Hotrock.

    She feels with what Hotrock 16s are selling for on Ebay we could just go ahead and sell it and get the bike we really want. Of course the only bike that meets our criteria is the Banshee but it has an even shorter TT than the Hotrock and I'm convinced my four year old will be cramped on it before the end of next summer.

    Is Spawn able to export Banshee's into the states without a coaster brake? Looking at the Norco Scorpion image closely online and it appears that it comes with both a coaster brake and a V brake. I just can't see spending more money and having a high friction coaster brake when I already have one here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH View Post
    ...so I couldn't tell her to get the horizontal TT measurements of the two 20" models. I'll email him shortly.
    The Beinn 20" small has a 440mm horizontal top tube. I don't know about the 20" large version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJH View Post

    Is Spawn able to export Banshee's into the states without a coaster brake? Looking at the Norco Scorpion image closely online and it appears that it comes with both a coaster brake and a V brake. I just can't see spending more money and having a high friction coaster brake when I already have one here.
    I bought my son a banshee in September before they announced the refreshed model, it did not have a coaster brake, I would not have bought it if it did

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