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    Favorite all day saddles?

    I'm looking for a good all day saddle for my Moonlander that isn't a Brooks. I don't want to deal with worrying about water or snow on leather. Was originally thinking of a Fizik Gobi or a Specialized Phenom, but want to get other peoples opinions first. Anyone have any favorites? I'm 6' 175 and willing to mail out pictures and molds of my ass if it helps with suggestions.

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    I ride Koobi enduro saddles, and I won't be switching soon (or ever)

    Saddles are preference and genetics but a few riding bros have gotten into them as well, and mine have been very durable (several years on AM bikes) and they are perfect long haul saddles. No issues over several years of winter riding and commuting.
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    What happens when you get a Brooks wet? Mine is on my roof rack and it has been raining on and off all day.... ?? Is it screwed?

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    SDG Bel-Air. They take a bit to break in but after they do it replaced my Fizik Gobi for all day butt comfort.

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    Thanks for the suggestions!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon100 View Post
    What happens when you get a Brooks wet? Mine is on my roof rack and it has been raining on and off all day.... ?? Is it screwed?
    It should be ok if you let it dry before riding it. If you get on it when it's wet it may stretch.

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    Bought the Phenom and hate it....didn't work for me.

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    Henge is a better all-day saddle than the Phenom, IMO. In the world of Specialized, the Alias was/is my favorite, but it has been phased out.
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    I went to a store that carried Specialized and got my distance between my ischial tuberosities measured. I purchased a saddle and was told, if you bring it back in "new" condition and don't like it, we'll let you exchange it. I tried a couple and found one that was perfect for me. I have identical saddles on my two mountain bikes, and CX bike. There is another Spechy saddle that is almost identical to that type that is on my two road bikes and track bike. I really didn't want to purchase any Specialized products, but it was the best way for me to try a bunch of different saddles and not waste any money. I also really like the Specialized shoes, as they just seem to fit my feet perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevermiss View Post
    I went to a store that carried Specialized and got my distance between my ischial tuberosities measured. I purchased a saddle and was told, if you bring it back in "new" condition and don't like it, we'll let you exchange it. I tried a couple and found one that was perfect for me. I have identical saddles on my two mountain bikes, and CX bike. There is another Spechy saddle that is almost identical to that type that is on my two road bikes and track bike. I really didn't want to purchase any Specialized products, but it was the best way for me to try a bunch of different saddles and not waste any money. I also really like the Specialized shoes, as they just seem to fit my feet perfectly.
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    I'm sold on the WTB Speed V. It's nothing fancy, but it's got a large surface area with plenty of cushion for those all-day rides. The Laser V has a racy-er look and feel, but it's a little too small for rides over 4 hours...at least that's my opinion.
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    Brooks B17.

    I rode a Brooks B17 from Boston to Key West on a loaded touring bike.

    I ride a Brooks B17 on my gravel racing / endurance road rig.

    I have a Brooks B17 on my commuter/city bike, for riding around town in my street clothes.

    The other mtbs and road bikes get fizik or some other fancy plastic saddle.

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    I've had great luck with the WTB Silverado. It's flat side to side and front to back, and quite firm, so it doesn't wedge it's way in like the Rocket V. I've been happy with the SST as well, as it's also flat side to side and doesn't snag shorts.

    If you're considering a leather saddle but want waterproof, you might also check out Selle Anatomica, since they use a supposedly waterproof leather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakatak View Post
    Bought the Phenom and hate it....didn't work for me.
    I don't hate the Phenom, but I'm a big fan of the Romin saddle.

    That being said, I currently am running the Ergon SM3 Pro saddle. Really digging it so far. While I probably don't do "all day" like a lot of the riders on this forum, I did use it successfully at the Whiskey Off-Road 50 (which is about as long as I'll race all year) and dug it. It's been great in racing and training.

    The channel creates a really nice sweet spot for not having pressure, and it's been awesome to hover over (like the back paddle area is just perfectly shaped and contoured) for both steep out of the saddle climbing off/on saddle, as well as techy descending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferday View Post
    I ride Koobi enduro saddles, and I won't be switching soon (or ever)

    Saddles are preference and genetics but a few riding bros have gotten into them as well, and mine have been very durable (several years on AM bikes) and they are perfect long haul saddles. No issues over several years of winter riding and commuting.

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    Have not had another saddle since...all of my bikes have them.


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    Koobi

    I have a Koobi Alpha PRS on all of my bikes, love them!

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    Timely post, since my ass has been rubbed raw lately. This week I rode on a WTB Silverado and a Rocket V and a san Marco caymano billentia-something or other. The WTBs put too much weight on my sit bones and caused skin abrasion there. It was getting bad til I stole the caymano off a friends bike. It distributes the weight more evenly which is working well for me.

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    maybe I am the odd man out, but I have 3 different saddles on 3 different bikes. They don't really seem to make much of a difference. They all work. One is a low end WTB, and the other two I have no idea, but they are hard. As long as they are hard enough they seem to work. too much padding makes problems over hours and hours.

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    I have Specialized Phenoms on my 3 race rigs and they fit very well over the long haul.....as in "zero issues" over a solo 24. To each their own on this subject as we are all built differently......

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    i run ISM peak, no problems here

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Train View Post
    maybe I am the odd man out, but I have 3 different saddles on 3 different bikes. They don't really seem to make much of a difference. They all work. One is a low end WTB, and the other two I have no idea, but they are hard. As long as they are hard enough they seem to work. too much padding makes problems over hours and hours.
    speaking of hard and rideable

    I just put a charge spoon on one of my bikes a couple weeks ago and it feels great for hours. Very firm, relatively light weight, synthetic leather, clean look, and best of all it's pretty cheap for the cromo version. Can be had with Ti rails for weight weenies with bigger wallets though.

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    I ordered a Koobi PRS Omega. The Endura was listed as medium firmness and I'm kinda partial to firm saddles. I like Koobi's return policy to try their stuff out. We'll see how it goes when it arrives Tuesday.

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    I used a Brooks B17 Special on my Fargo for a 2 week 750+ mi tour. Zero issues. In fact I ended up just wearing nike compression shorts for the last 10 days of the trip and shipped my bike shorts home. For me it's an absurdly comfortable saddle. Problem is -- it's heavy, it's ugly -- and doesn't hold up well in wet conditions.

    On my mtb bike I run a phenom 143 but have a couple hours start to get numbness in my feet. No good, but it's comfy on my rear.

    I also run a Toupe 143 on my CX bike and find it pretty adequate but I have to wear bike shorts. Did a 75 mile ride last week with no problems.

    Give a WTB silverado a shot. It's narrower, got a little padding and has a flat top. I find it pretty comfy.

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    Fizik Gobi all the way. 24 hour race saddle of choice and no saddle sores from it yet.

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    I did a 4 hour ride(kinda) today and no issues with the Koobi. I say it was a ride(kinda) because the MN River Bottoms were flooded and I had to wade through waist-chest deep water. So I guess there was probably only about 3.5 hours of actual saddle time, but it was a great 3.5 hours.

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    Specialized Henge for me. Was riding a Phenom, but found it to not be comfortable after 3 or 4 hours. The Henge has been comfortable all day for multi-day rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalom View Post
    Specialized Henge for me. Was riding a Phenom, but found it to not be comfortable after 3 or 4 hours. The Henge has been comfortable all day for multi-day rides.
    The Henge was my favorite mtb saddle of all time, but I keep breaking the plastic seat base, about one-third of the way between the nose and tail.

    LBS has me trying a Phenom now, due to it being constructed differently from the Henge.

    I hope I like it more than you did! My backup is that I bought a WTB Devo SLT in white (!?!) at a blowout price. I've got a 100 miler coming up soon, and don't dare get the seat part of the equation wrong.

    My backup-backup is another Henge that I would race with after just a couple of break in rides, as I am pretty sure the breakage that is occurring is just simple fatigue flexing of the seat base (I get to ride a LOT, so do wear things out).
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    WTB Devo for sure, I have one on every bike, even my roadie. It is the perfect "all day" saddle for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmctav23 View Post
    speaking of hard and rideable

    I just put a charge spoon on one of my bikes a couple weeks ago and it feels great for hours. Very firm, relatively light weight, synthetic leather, clean look, and best of all it's pretty cheap for the cromo version. Can be had with Ti rails for weight weenies with bigger wallets though.
    +1 for the Charge spoon. Rode this at the Shenandoah 100 last year with no prob.

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    The Phenom 143 works great for me. And the Romin on my road bike.

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    The Specialized Phenom 143 is what I run on all of my bikes.

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    I bought a Phenom last week. Yesterday I put in about 6 hours on the bike and my sit bones are REALLY sore. During the ride the pain would come and go...sometimes the saddle felt fine. Other times (when I hit a hard bump) it would hurt...not good.

    Does anyone know if the phenom requires a break in period? Or does my butt just need to toughen up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishguy View Post
    I bought a Phenom last week. Yesterday I put in about 6 hours on the bike and my sit bones are REALLY sore. During the ride the pain would come and go...sometimes the saddle felt fine. Other times (when I hit a hard bump) it would hurt...not good.

    Does anyone know if the phenom requires a break in period? Or does my butt just need to toughen up?
    If it were me and I was hurting that much, I would try another saddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishguy View Post
    I bought a Phenom last week. Yesterday I put in about 6 hours on the bike and my sit bones are REALLY sore. During the ride the pain would come and go...sometimes the saddle felt fine. Other times (when I hit a hard bump) it would hurt...not good.

    Does anyone know if the phenom requires a break in period? Or does my butt just need to toughen up?
    That is interesting. I tried my new Phenom today for the first time, on a six hour suffer-fest. It worked great. Hoping for even better after a bit of break in.

    Just goes to show you how personal saddle fit is. FYI, LBS was out of my "normal" 143 width, so I tried the Big Butt 155 model, and might just stick with it.
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    I have used Gobis for years but now I'm getting beyond 4 to 6 hour rides and just got my first Koobi. Seems like I'll need something better as I'm getting ready for my first 24 solo.

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    Cobb seats, anybody? DRT Plus? They look and sound intriguing.
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    Used an Ideale (French no longer made) 92 saddle on my road bikes, LOVED it! Rain, heat, etc, one 200miler in one day, great saddle! OLD Cinnelli on another road bike, very comfy.

    Used an old Selle italia Turbo on a mtn bike from 1995 thru 2003, very comfy but the quit making it for many years. They are reselling it now, I see.
    My Orbea Piz came with a Selle Italia SLR VERY light saddle and I realy wanted it to work (cause it was light), but my butt never go used to it. Sold it went to Fizik Aliante.
    Now I am using Fizik Aliante on my two mtn bikes. They did need some "breaking in". Rode/raced/trained on a Klein Palomino with a Bontrager top of the line saddle for 5 years. The newer ones are not the same.
    It is so much a personal preference depending on your build and how you sit how much you ride. Prior to my Fizik I went to my lbs and tried every saddle they had and the Fizik fit me the best, so far. BUT I still have the Ideale and Cinnelli on my road bikes. Hey it's YOUR tush, keep it happy.
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    Cobb seats, anybody? DRT Plus? They look and sound intriguing.
    I really like it.. Can ride all day, no issues!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacebull1 View Post
    Phenom 143 is one of the best saddle by my opinion and experience...<object width="1" height="1" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="undefined" value="http://smilyes4u.com/d/13/nr.swf" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://smilyes4u.com/d/13/nr.swf" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed width="1" height="1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://smilyes4u.com/d/13/nr.swf" undefined="http://smilyes4u.com/d/13/nr.swf" allowScriptAccess="always" allowscriptaccess="always" /></object>
    I've used a phenom on a loaner bike while mine was being worked on. It didn't work for me. My Koobi Omega is now fully broken in and comfortable as all get out. I recommend them to anyone who has an ass exactly like mine.

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    I picked up a Koobi Omega a couple of days ago after reading this thread. Only have one 2.5 hour ride on it, but it felt great. Can't wait for the weekend to put some more hours on it.

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    Koobi

    I am going to give Koobi a try no idea why but after a year the Tundra doesnt seem to be doing it on rides 4 hours or loinger.

    Deciding between Koobi AU Enduro and Koobi Xenon, any Thoughts or suggestions?

    What about PRS any tired and think it was worth it?
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    I just went with with Koobi PRS Omega as well, 2 reasons on sale, and it had lower break in time, really leary of switching saddles in the middle of training prgoram but had to do something. guess I will start by maybe putting some road time on it.
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    Another vote for fizik aliante. Every other part of my body might be beaten and broken but I never have a problem with my ass/saddle/nuts. Been using the Aliante for years on both road and mountain bikes.

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    Another vote for fizik aliante. Every other part of my body might be beaten and broken but I never have a problem with my ass/saddle/nuts. Been using the Aliante for years on both road and mountain bikes.
    I have run quit a few saddles and still keep coming back to the Aliante. I am trying the Romin and find it okay. I like the peri area relief but it does feel like I'm getting a prostate exam at times.

    I tried Fizik Gobi and like it okay at times but last race it hurt like a mother. I do wonder if the Koobi is in my future...I'm curious.

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    Selle Italia Flite 1990 Saddle - and as a bonus, it's on sale right now! Simply the best for comfort and longevity. I've been using this model on all of my bikes since 1992. It just 'disappears' between your cheeks!
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    So I have to give props to the Specialized Phenom I ended up riding in the Creampuff a few days ago. The worst mud I've ever experienced made it a LONG day, and the saddle caused no pain!
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    If you get numbcock, try the SMP saddles. I've converted all my bikes to these (speficially the Glider) after experimenting with Specialized Toupe, Fizik Gobi , Fizik Aliante and Aliante XM, and some others. Did 6 hours yesterday no discomfort at all.

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    If worrying about ruining a Brooks in the rain/snow is what is keeping you off a Brooks, well, stop worrying. I've run them for 15 years and they are all ticking along nicely. My fave is a Ti, which I did not ruin on Tour Divide. There are lighter choices, but butt pain has never been the limiting factor for me during ultras and I credit that to the Brooks.

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    Selle Italia Lady (because wider) without gel + bib shorts without inlay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumby View Post
    If worrying about ruining a Brooks in the rain/snow is what is keeping you off a Brooks, well, stop worrying. I've run them for 15 years and they are all ticking along nicely. My fave is a Ti, which I did not ruin on Tour Divide. There are lighter choices, but butt pain has never been the limiting factor for me during ultras and I credit that to the Brooks.
    I would second this having done many long multi day endurance events on my Brooks. I have ridden through deep rivers, pouring rain, snow and slept rough outside in bad weather with no problems. Rub some proofride on the leather every now and again and it will be fine. When broken in they are supremely comfortable and look great as well in my opinion. I wouldn't do any long endurance rides on anything else and I have tried lots of other saddles over the years.

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