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    CTR 2008 starts!

    23 racers started this years rendition of the Colorado Trail Race! A huge thanks to Marni Plesko for gathering all the names, handing out all the SPOTs, and starting off the racers. She also took some pictures of the racers, and I will post those as soon as I can. Also a big round of applause for Matthew Lee and the TD racers that sent me their SPOT units to use for the CTR. I'll call 'em out by name in my next post.

    The 2008 CTR started at 12:04 this afternoon (7/28), so I would expect to hear from the front runners around noon tomorrow in Frisco or Copper. Maybe sooner considering the strength of this year's field! Hopefully the SPOT Leaderboard will give us some good spectating, although not all of the racers are carrying SPOTs. We should also hear from all the racers via Joe Polk MTBcasting the callins, and some may be sending text messages via cellphone to Twitter - username: CTR2, passwd: rideyourassoff

    And without further ado, here is the list of starters: (updated regularly with call-in info)

    Ethan Passant -- Finishes on 8/2 @ 14:30 for the win and a new CTR record of 5d02h26m
    Jason Shelman (SS) -- Finishes second on 8/2 @ 15:53 with a time of 5d03h49m
    Chris Plesko (SS) -- Finishes third on 8/2 @ 18:31 for a time of 5d06h27m
    Jeff Oatley -- Finishes on 8/3 @ 11:51 for a time of 5d23h47m
    Brad Kee -- Finishes on 8/3 @ 16:10 for a time of 6d04h06m
    Trish Stevenson -- Finishes on 8/4 @ 13:50 as the first ever female finisher in 7d01h46m
    Dan Montgomery -- Finishes on 8/4 @ 18:49 for a time of 7d06h45m
    Dennis Helton -- Finishes on 8/4 @ 19:04 for a time of 7d07h00m
    Matt Fusco -- Finishes on 8/5 @ 15:18 for a time of 8d03h14m
    Marshal Bird -- Suffers a serious crash warranting a trip to the ER on 8/5 only 40 miles from Durango
    Eddie Turkaly -- 8/5 @ 09:24 crashes out before Durango
    Chris Neumann -- 8/3 @ 13:10 reluctantly throws in the towel
    Doug Johnson -- 8/1 @ 18:49 pulls out at Hwy. 114 - knees exploding
    Pete Basinger -- 8/1 @ 19:23 bails out - sick of hike-a-bike
    Chuck Ray -- 8/1, not enough time at this pace. Returning to Nederland.
    Curtis Burge -- 8/1 @ 13:33, checking out at Cottonwood Hot Springs
    Tim Graczyk (Fixed Gear!) -- 8/1 @ 08:06, heading home from B.V.
    Jim Ishman (SS) -- 7/31 @ 22:18 pulls out in Leadville
    Dave Nice (Fixie!) -- 7/31 @ 15:11, calls it quits near Copper
    Keith Eckstein -- 7/31 @ 15:08 Out - stomach flu or food poisoning in Frisco
    Alison Gannet -- 7/30 @ 06:56 out. E. Coli infection!
    Kyle Stone -- 7/30 @ 12:39, Pulling the plug at Kenosha Pass
    Travis Butler (SS) -- 7/29 @ 13:20, Pulling the plug in Tarryall due to jacked up knees.


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    Anyone want to help with the others?
    0051, 0052 - Alison Gannet
    0053 - Dave Nice
    0054, 0055 - Dave Nice and ??
    0059, 0060 - Travis Butler
    0061, 0062 - Matt Fusco
    0063, 0064 - Jeff Oatley
    0065, 0066 - Jim Ishman
    0069, 0070 - Kyle Stone
    0071, 0072 - Chris Neumann
    0073,0074 - Chuck Wray
    0075 - Jason Shelman
    0076, 0077 - Marshal Bird
    0082 - Chris Plesko and others

    That's a tremendous showing - over twice as many as last year, with three return pain seekers! I can't wait to watch this one!

    On a slightly personal note, and the reason why I missed the pre-race mtg and start, it is very fitting that since I came out of last year's CTR ready to have kids that my first one should be born on this year's CTR start date! A happy, healthy boy, and a good omen for all of this year's racers. Go get 'em guys!!!
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    Stefan congratulations to both your wife and yourself on this very happy day . A future racer perhaps .

    Cheers and may all three of you sleep well in the coming months , Andy
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    That's where Crazy Dennis Helton is right now.
    I wondered why he wasn't at ORAMM this last weekend.

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    Anyone know whats up with the SPOT "dots" not being available for the passed 12 hrs?
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    Congrats Stefan!

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    See you at the start line next year!

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    I hope to be toeing the line there next season also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron
    Anyone know whats up with the SPOT "dots" not being available for the passed 12 hrs?
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    We got word from SPOT that they were upgrading their shared page functionality yesterday/last night and the pages (and therefore the leaderboard) will be up sometime today. They are a west coast company as well, so that ought to effect the time it goes back up.

    Just bad timing that the service upgrade coincided with the start of the CTR.

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    Congrats Stefan! Another future endurance racer is born! I dunno if Matthew's baby has arrived, anyone know? Hmmm could it be Stefan's son FTW!?
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    23 racers in the 2nd year is amazing. Makes my ITT seem really lonely by comparision. I may be forced to ride it each year if it becomes a group ride!!! I think Jefe's record could be in trouble with all the competition out there.

    Go Dave Nice Go- finishing is your only option brother. I am following your blue dot (when visible) any chance I get. I may even try to show up for a little ride/pep talk if I can find you.

    Cheers to all you out there- I hope you have tailwinds, partly cloudy weather and friendly trail magic to help your journey.

    Congrats Stefan on the baby- custom Moots ti trailer on the way with formula in the tubes? You could theoretically break the father/son CTR record you know!!

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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 13:20, Travis Butler in Tarryall

    This is Travis Butler, callin' from Tarryall. I'm pullin' the plug. I've got a couple of jacked up knees. Good time, but uhh, next time I'm going to, umm, have some gears, instead of just one. So, anyway, just letting you all know.

    Bummer, Travis. I was rooting for ya! I hope you still have a great vacation in Colorado and maybe get to ride a bit more of the trail in a few days! BTW, everyone, I am going to keep updating/editing the first post in this thread to reflect callins as I get them. --Stefan
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    Thanks for the update Stefan/Marni, and to ML / KM for the SPOT setup. I like the map display with wilderness detours shown.

    23 and some strong names in there. We'll see how much the weather allows these guys push it this year.
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    SPOT loaners

    A big thanks to all the TDers that loaned out their SPOTs!

    Matthew Lee
    Kevin Montgomery
    Geoff Roes
    Mary Collier
    Andy Buchanan
    Felix Wong
    Adrian Stingaciu
    Ardie Olson
    Stephen Gleasner
    Leighton White
    Mike Dion


    When Marni handed 'em out at the start, everyone who wanted one got one, and there was only one left over! Now if only SPOT would get their shared page fixed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    A happy, healthy boy, and a good omen for all of this year's racers. Go get 'em guys!!!
    Congrats! Thanks for your hard work on this project, makes us couch-racers that much more tuned in. Its really cool to watch the progress (Cmon Spot! ) as the race develops.

    My wife and I were expecting our baby boy on Sunday, but we're still waiting. Maybe we will have CTR bookending babies, yours at the start and mine when someone finishes in the next few days.

    Good luck (and weather) to all you racers, I am in awe.

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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 15:05, Ethan Passant in Copper

    Hey, it's Ethan Passant. I'm in Copper... Later!

    Ethan appears to be out front, blazing the path for the others!
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 16:26, Doug Johnson in Frisco

    Hi, this is Doug Johnson calling in from Frisco. Been here for awhile, umm, restin', eatin', so forth. Things are going pretty well I guess. Got a little dehydrated going to Buffalo Creek, but after I made it to the water, the detour went much better than the ride there, and had to leap-frog all the vampires that rode through the night. And... pretty hard ride from Kenosha to Gold Hill, but now I'm refueling and gonna tackle that 7 miles of bike path over to Copper Mountain, and I'll prolly call you later.
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 17:00, Chris Plesko in Copper

    Hey everybody, this is Chris. It is just before 5 o'clock and everything's been going good. The riding today was definitely tough, but I'm having a good time and gonna get some food and then, uh, take off and see how far I can get tonight. Alright, that's about all I got. Bye.
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    go ethan

    Damn just got home from work and still no leader board! They're killing me.

    Ethan looks to be in form! A little surprising considering his lead up to the CTR. Mtn bike race on Thursday night right into 3 days of road racing at the Omnium in Salida and then starting the CTR on Monday!
    We picked him up in Salida on the way to Denver. His crit had just finished in a downpour. He toweled off in the parking lot, rinsed his chamois out in the Arkansas river and jumped in the car, announcing his excitement for the CTR. freak.

    Anyway I'm glad the weather settled some today. It rained the whole way home on hwy 285 yesterday and the area around buff creek looked pretty black

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    I'm posting to the Twitter page when I can.

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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 17:53, Doug Johnson in Copper

    Hey, it's Doug Johnson calling in from Copper Ethan was the only person in front, but it looks like while I was vacationing in Frisco, a few people jumped ahead of me. I'll try to make it up to leadville tonight and see how that goes. Tell Sarah I rode with the guy who rode the cruiser bike in the new belgium TB commercial, but he wasn't on a cruiser bike, he was on a real mountain bike.
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    JP, thanks for updating the twitter as well as the mtbcast.

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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 20:18, Pete Basinger, Jeff Oatley and Jason Shelman in Copper

    Hey this is Pete Basinger. I'm calling in from Copper Mountain. I'm with Jeff Oatley and Jason Shelman. And uh, yeah, weather's great! We're gonna keep going tonight. We spent a couple hours in Frisco, we got pretty hammered on the way here - just with the heat and the trail is pretty tough... But we're having a good time, the trail's pretty fun. That's it. Bye.
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 20:37, Trish Stevenson, Brad Kee in Frisco

    Hey boys and girl listening in. Trish calling, I'm with Mr. Brad Kee after a long day riding with Dennis finally caught up to Kee. We are having dinner in Frisco. That was one of *the* most spectacular days I've had on a bike! Wicked singletrack from glimpses that I remember from the 100. It is awesome. I got a full 10 hour sleep last night, which was awesome. Went to bed at 9, got up at 6 which felt really good. I think we're gonna... might, press on a little further. Hope everyone is well out there and we'll talk to ya soon. Alright. Ciao.

    Boy, what can I say?! So glad to have a helping hand in someone's most spectacular days on a bike! Keep truckin' Trish!
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 21:23, Alison Gannet in Frisco

    Hi this is Alison Gannet calling in from Frisco. I actually arrived here at 6:30 and I'm looking forward to shacking up for the night. Saw lots of cool riders last night. Saw Trish and Brad from North Carolina at Gooseberry campground. Rode with Greg from Durango for much of last night, and probably saw like 10 other people yesterday. And, anyway, thanks for all the support and I'll talk to you later.
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 22:29, Dennis Helton in Frisco

    Yo this is Dennis from bio wheels (?) I'm in Frisco. Had the best ride of my life, Colorado Trail rocks. Colorado Trail Foundation, thank you for a wonderful job, and uh they fed (?) me well. Uh, yeah that's about it. later.
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 22:54, Ethan Passant in Leadville

    Hello there this is Ethan again, made it to Leadville. See ya.
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    Call-in: 7/29 @ 22:56, Brad Kee in Copper

    Hey this is Brad Kee. I'm in Copper. 11 o'clock Tuesday Evening.
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    Trish, Brad, and Dennis are all friends of mine. Sweet to see/hear their reports, I was talking to Trish before she left and it was funny to see her pre-race mania. If they think they're having fun now, wait until they get into Seg 13 and beyond...personally, the sweet fast ST in 13/14 followed by EVERYTHING from 15 to Durango was the absolute bomb...if I was racing, however, I'd be super happy to be taking that Cinammon Pass detour.

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    From the Twitter board

    CTR2 This morning: Alison Gannett calls back and after a visit to the ER she's out! Massive bronchial infection. Get well soon, Alison! 37 minutes ago from web

    Feel Better Alison

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    Allison sorry to hear that . It has taken me over a month to get over a similar sickness . Great race up to here . Also sorry to hear that Travis had to pull the plug . There is always next year . Everybody else ride hard and smile big .

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 06:56, Alison out

    Hi this is Alison Gannet calling in and I've got some bad news to report. I'm battling a bronchitis infection getting worse yesterday coming into Frisco and then uh last night I started peeing blood and so I started peeing blood and so I went to the ER and I've got a massive infection. So I'm so sad and I was really looking forward to continuing the race but it looks like it's not in the cards with my body right now and umm I'm looking forward to battling with Trish for the women's record and looks like that's not gonna happen as well. Oh well, ya gotta respect your body when it's telling you something so good luck to everyone out there and thanks to everybody supporting and I'm really bummed that I'm not going to be riding today.

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 08:03, Dan Montgomery in Copper

    Hey this is Dan Montgomery checking in from Copper Mountain, about 8 o'clock. So one rider all day yesterday, that was Curtis. That was a good day! A little cold sleeping last night. Made it down to west ridge - did that in the dark - my home turf. That was fun... cold night. Got 20 in this morning already and going over Copper! Later.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 08:31, Chris Plesko in Leadville

    Hey everybody, this is Chris Plesko. I'm here in Leadville. It's 8:30 on saaa... not Saturday, Wednesday morning. I had a pretty good night last night. Me and Doug hooked up outside of Copper there and rode over Searle pass and that really high ridge over Kokomo too. That was pretty epic sitting up above 12,300 at 10:30 at night! And bivied at Camp Hale for a bit and took off this morning. I expect he'll call in in a minute. Other than that, doing good, gonna get some kind of food here in town and push on to Buena Vista.

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 09:50, Doug Johnson in Leadville

    Hey this is Doug Johnson calling in. I'm getting ready to leave Leadville. Me and Chris spent 2 or 3 hours hiking above tree line last night. I think I left my legs up there on Kokomo pass. I feel pretty horrible today. But, umm, head to Buena Vista and see how it goes from there. Bye.
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    It seems Chris still lives in the land of perpetual Saturdays, even while he's racing!

    Spots seem to be back up! Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivvay
    It seems Chris still lives in the land of perpetual Saturdays, even while he's racing!

    Spots seem to be back up! Yay!

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 11:07, Ethan Passant in Buena Vista

    Hello there this is Ethan. Calling in from BV. Things are going well. Talk to ya in Silverton.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 11:31, Tim Graczyk in Copper

    Hello this is Tim Graczyk. and I am at the Copper Conoco. It is Wednesday monring, 11:31. I am having fun... I slept on Georgia Pass last night. It was a bit cold but very scenic. Uh, yeah... I'm just trying to ride it on through so I'll call you from Leadville.
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    Is it just me....or are those guys just absolutely flying?

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    Just posted the latest call-ins via podcast. Lots of calls today! And yes, they are movin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 12:39, Kyle Stone pulls the plug at Kenosha Pass

    Hello, this is Kyle Stone calling from near Kenosha Pass. I've decided to pull the plug. I definitely overestimated my abilities and underestimated the toughness of this race. Anyway, the trail was hot, Monday was a fairly decent day. Got pretty dehydrated though and had a rough time recovering yesterday at the Hayman fire area along the Tarryall Detour so I just felt like I kept going down hill and uh really took it out of me. So I ended up getting to Kenosha Pass and decided to pull the plug. Everyone who's toed up to that starting line oughtta feel good about it and those that are still going keep pedaling strong and we'll be watching ya. So have a great ride, and we'll be watching ya.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 12:50, Jeff Oatley in Leadville

    This is Jeff Oatley calling from Leadville. Rode in about noon with Pete and Jason and ??? Had a beautiful morning on the trail getting ready to roll out of town cover some more miles. Cover some more miles. That's all. Bye.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 13:23, Brad Kee in Leadville

    Hey, this is Brad Kee in Leadville. 1:20 oh, when's the day... uhh, later.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 14:04, Chuck Wray, Chris Neumann, Eddie Turkaly, Matt Fusco in Frisco

    Hey, Chuck Wray calling in. Just ate in Frisco. Looking to head out to copper. Caught up with everyone who's here at the end. Having a beer drinking contest. And whoever can get out of here. They're in the front... (garbled)

    Nuemann calling in from Frisco. Sitting here having food. (laughs)

    This is Eddie Turkaly in Frisco as well eating my second meal.

    Matt Fusco here. Only one with a beer in his hand. Gonna be here for a bit, then we're gonna try to go over Tennessee Pass tonight. Later.
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    Leaderboard is back up

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    Looks like Travis Butler is pulling away

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    Quote Originally Posted by sizlinseagulsoup
    Leaderboard is back up

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    Looks like Travis Butler is pulling away
    Nah, Travis Butler is sitting in his hammock using wifi at the KOA with ice on his knees. I'm glad I stopped when I did. I think I'll recover just fine in a couple more days but if I would have kept going it would have been bad news bears for long term riding. It's wierd, I've been riding exclusively on a rigid SS for almost 4 years now and haven't had this much trouble. Then again, I've never tried riding up mountain passes with 28 pounds of food/water/gear either! I'm getting a geared bike for this sort of thing.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 15:18, Chris Plesko in B.V.

    Hey everybody, this is Chris Plesko. I won the Buena Vista city limits sprint at 3:11 uncontested! That was a good time... Anyway, segment 11 was pretty awesome - the detour was fine. Didn't really do much on the SS, just coasted down and tried to spin as fast as possible and now I'm gonna get some food and keep on keeping on. Alright, talk to ya'll a little later.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 15:43, Trish Stevenson in Leadville

    Hey Joe. Calling in. It is 3:43 Colorado time. Rolled in prolly about 1... after 1, something like that. Little dusty as you can see. Major road construction on that detour (cough) trying to cough it up... Good day - got a shower, dried out my bag, ran into Mr. Kee again. Seein' if any other Carolinians show up. But umm, it's been good. Got some new shoes sent to me that will be better for hike-a-bike, but umm, the passes were beautiful. Alright. Over and out.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 15:50, Curtis Burge in Copper

    Hey there this is Curtis Burge calling in from Copper Moutain about 10 to 4. Everything is going along just great. Slow... And, uh, doing good. See ya in Leadville. Bye, bye.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 16:01, Doug Johnson in B.V.

    Hey this is Doug Johnson calling in. Made it to Buena Vista. Legs came back around in time to go up and over Hope Pass. Wasn't too bad. I think we're off to Mt. Princeton Hot springs. It's the next place with ice cream so that's where I'll be. Talk to you guys later.

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 17:18, Chuck Wray, Eddie Turkaly, Chris Neumann in Copper

    Chuck Ray calling in from Copper Gas. Uh, what is it weds evening. Trying to make Kokomo Pass tonight. Trying to get over to camp hale , but kinda sketchy this late in the day going over 12. See what happens, huh. ahhhhh! Thanks.

    This is Eddie Turkaly checking in at Copper Mountain. Getting ready to hit the pass. We're gonna plan on sleeping somewhere between Tennessee Pass and Kookoo Pass or whatever it's called. We're headin' up there now. I'm feeling Grrreat!

    Hey it's Chris Neumann checkin in from Copper Mountain. It's Tuesday about 5:15. Actually, I want to say happy birthday to my brother, Carl. Everything's going well. We're gonna try and get over Kokomo Pass and sleep on the other side. Alright that's it.

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    anybody know of a nice rustic B&B near durango... or even a cabin i might be able to rent last minuet for the weary CTR racer i'll be scooping up here upon completion? Any thoughts/leads would be appreciated!

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    try the Siesta Motel 877-314-0741 in Durango. locally owned. great place.

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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 19:23, Tim Graczyk in Leadville

    Hello, this is Tim Graczyk again. iI is about 7:20 and I am in Leadville at the Safeway here. I just bought some baked goods. Some rice crispy squares - it's pretty good. Came over Searle and Kokomo. That was a 1-2 punch that almost knocked me out. Coming down from that I came off the bike a few times. It was exceedingly difficult, but made it all the way here. The section from Tennessee pass to Wurtz ditch road, that's really fun, I'm glad that that was included in the route. I'm gonna continue on and get some more food here, and give ya a call from Buena Vista. So I'll see ya then.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 19:30, Marshal Bird in Frisco

    Yeah, this is Marshal Bird, I'm in Frisco laying down in my hotel bed. It's about 7:30. Got in about 6:30 A quick summary of the first couple of days: Day 1 was heat and cramps. Day 2 was more heat, more cramps. Pretty rough two days. Finally got a good night's sleep last night. Got in here to Frisco and plan on getting up and heading out about 3 o'clock in the morning. Good luck to everybody else out there. Bye, bye.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 19:51, Jason Shelman, Jeff Oatley, Pete Basinger in B.V.

    Hello Joe. This is Jason. uh, Jason Shelman. I'm calling and checking in for Jeff Oatley and Pete Basinger. Not really sure what time it is, I think about 7:15. And , uh, we're in B.V. and we're heading out. OK. Thank you.
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    Call-in: 7/30 @ 21:34, Dave Nice near Frisco

    Hey everybody in MTBcast land. It's Dave Nice. It's 9:35 Wednesday. I'm somewhere on the bike path between Breckenridge and Frisco. Maybe you can hear the traffic roll by. Crashing here for the night. I've never ridden myself to this level of exhaustion before. Just wasn't paying attention in one of the corners, washed out, and landed alright, didn't hurt anything, but somehow my left leg got tangled between my frame and handle bars and kind of goofed up my left knee. It kind of hurts right now. Gonna take some Motrin and get a good night's sleep and see how it is in the morning. Talk to you later.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 00:08, Brad Kee, Trish Stevenson in B.V.

    Hey, this is Brad and Trish. We just rode segment 11 together and are in Buena Vista. 12 o'clock in the morning Wednesday. Bye.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 00:52, Dan Montgomery in B.V.

    This is Dan Montgomery. I'm in Buena Vista. 12:30 at night I think. And, uh, had a great day. Covered a lot of ground. Saw Dennis - he's the only other rider I saw today. Saw him on top of Copper Mountain this morning. I don't know where I am in the standings, but I hope I'm with everybody else now. I put in a little extra time tonight. Down, down, down. It's all downhill the last 20 miles. What a blast. Well, alright I gotta go find a place to crash. G' night.
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    Mileage

    As I'm out on the east coast and haven't ridden the CT, would someone be able to give me rough estimates of how far along the trail places like Copper, Leadville, BV and Silverton are? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    Is it just me....or are those guys just absolutely flying?

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    Yes they're flying. But, BY FAR the hardest parts are still to come... the sections from Leadville all the way to the US 550 crossing above Salida include the most continously fun fast trail plus really fast fire road and pavement detours. From Salida to Lake City and then again from Silverton to Durango are where they're REALLY going to get tested (although Georgia and Searle pass are significant too...)
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    Cooked on the Colorado Trail

    Hello all….

    I decided to pull the plug on my CT attempt last night as I was COOKED! Stick a fork in me, I am done. Actually, it was feeling like there were a couple hundred forks already sticking me in the butt! Aside from the tender bum, the heat was torture. When the race started on Monday we rode up Waterton canyon and my watch (mounted on my bike) was reading 108F. The first three segments went pretty well with the exception of an end-o on the decent down to S. Platte River. Not too much harm done but with a 23 lb pack on your back it sure does hurt. I had to laugh as just 5 minutes before my tumble I was thinking that “a person needs to pay attention on this section or they could get hurt!”

    I rode for around 11 hours Monday and logged 55 miles. Slept in a beautiful meadow with temps in the 50’s. Throughout the day on Monday I could not get my heart rate to lower and felt like I was going backwards. My typical heart rate is around 140 to 150 while maintaining a constant pace. I noticed Monday that it was usually around 160 to 170. Way too high but even when I stopped to take a break it was just not recovering as usual. It took me around 8 hours to ride what should have taken 6.5 hours.

    Tuesday morning I was on the trail at 6 am and rode for 12 hours logging around 65 miles. I was drinking around 2.5 liters every 3 to 4 hours supplemented with Succeed electrolytes. The sun was out and the section of the course took us through the Hayman Fire (http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Do...ary_Hayman.cfm) area which has been stripped of any shade. All of the riding was on forest service and paved roads so the technical nature was not that high. I really started to bonk around 3 pm. I tried to analyze why I was not recovering because I was drinking and thought I was eating enough to fuel the endeavor. When I started to count calories I realized that I had only eaten around 1500 calories over the past 12 hours. Not enough to sustain the effort on a normal ride and this was far beyond normal.

    By 5 pm I was at an intersection of forest service road 56 and at the end of my rope. To the right, 2 miles back to the Colorado Trail then 6 miles to Kenosho Pass. 5 miles to the left, Hwy 285 and 2 miles to Kenosho Pass. I knew if I went left, my race was over. If I went right, my race continued. I sat in the heat for a few moments and decided to go left. I headed down the road for about 500 yards then stopped, turned around contemplating my decision. I turn back to the west and continued to hwy 285 with strange feeling of relief that the struggle was over but at the same time a sense of sadness that my adventure was over. After a fearful ride up hwy 285 in the rain , I made it to Kenosho pass campground and called my wife to let her know that I was done. 115 miles, 22 hours of riding in 31 hours, my adventure was complete.

    Hours later as I write this summary, I am already starting to think about what I could do differently next year! How quickly we forget. It was not even 24 hours ago I was cursing the Tarryall valley and swore to never travel that section again. The heat was a huge factor for me and I think it took more out of me than I realized. Not looking for excuses as I know I could always be in better shape and train more purposefully, I think I under estimated the difficulty of the Colorado Trail and over estimated my ability.

    One of my favorite quotes is by the great explorer Norman Vaughn (http://www.normanvaughan.com/) which is “Dream big and dare to fail”. This was a big dream and even though I failed to finish the trail I continue to dream. Failure creates clarity that eventually results in success.

    Thanks for everyone’s support and we’ll see you on the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPRush1000
    As I'm out on the east coast and haven't ridden the CT, would someone be able to give me rough estimates of how far along the trail places like Copper, Leadville, BV and Silverton are? Thanks.

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    It is so hard to estimate, but here is a rough outline, which would take into account that you used to riding multiple 15 hrs-days in a row, have experienced the huge passes in Colorado, are used to hike-a-bike for at least an hour a day (with purpose), love bad weather and thunderstorms, are acclimated to altitude, used to bikepacking on singletrack with 20 lbs of gear on your bike, love to suffer, etc:

    1. Waterton Canyon to Tarryall - 12 hrs
    2. Tarryall to bar on Rt 77 - 3 hrs
    3. Rock Creek section to Kenosha - 2 hrs
    4. Kenosha to Frisco - 7.5 hrs
    5. Frisco to Leadville - 8 hrs
    6. Leadville to BV - 6 hrs
    7. BV to Hwy 50 - 10-11-12 hrs
    8. Hwy 50 to Lake City - 14 hrs (excessive hike-a-bike)
    9. Lake City to Silverton - 6 hrs
    10. Silverton to Durango - 20 hrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPRush1000
    As I'm out on the east coast and haven't ridden the CT, would someone be able to give me rough estimates of how far along the trail places like Copper, Leadville, BV and Silverton are? Thanks.

    KP
    Sure. Copper is about 150 miles in, Leadville is around 200. B.V. is at 250, and they'll hit Silverton after 450 miles. Lake City is ~3 miles out of the way near mile 400 of the route.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 08:46, Dave Nice near Copper

    Heeeyllo it's Dave, and it's 8:45 and Im in Frisco. just had a hot breakfast. not too shortly, maybe an hour or two after I called last night, something bit me on the left side, and uh, my left leg is swelled up real nice and big and is gooey and sticky and puffy this morning, and I went by the doctor's office and they think it's either a black widow or.. (cut-off)

    Little spider bit me on the left leg, swelled up real bad and I had trouble breathing last night, so I used by epinephrine shot and some benadryl and that seemed to let me sleep. Today the doctor said to take it easy and gave me some more benadryl and some oehter kind of pain of some sort. Kind of feeling a little drugged out, but hot breakfast was yummy. Yeah, so gonna play it easy today and see how I'm feeling, try and ride into Copper and not too much further than that. Guess I'm in sweep position now, so maybe I'll pick up some people today, maybe not. Still gotta go by Wal-Mart or whatever to resupply. Get the bag stocked up with some calories again. Yeah, that's about it. Talk to ya later...
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 10:35, Jim Ishman in Copper

    Hi this is Jim Ishman checking in from Copper. Spent a lot more time in Frisco than I thought, got a couple good meals in. Looking forward to getting this next section of trail to Leadville done. Never done it, so I'm looking forward to doing it. Rode with Keith for, oh, prolly 120, 130 miles for the last couple days. Split with him in Frisco, he's gonna re-evaluate and get some bike work done. Anyway, hope I'll be calling soon from Leadville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGSNOW
    It is so hard to estimate, but here is a rough outline, which would take into account that you used to riding multiple 15 hrs-days in a row, have experienced the huge passes in Colorado, are used to hike-a-bike for at least an hour a day (with purpose), love bad weather and thunderstorms, are acclimated to altitude, used to bikepacking on singletrack with 20 lbs of gear on your bike, love to suffer, etc:
    Now, now, Alison. You're gonna scare everyone away! We dropped the worst hike-a-bike sections in favor of the Tenmile Bike Path and Cinnamon Pass...

    But yes, I'll completely agree with you that mileage really gives you no clue as to how tough the CT is.

    Great job for the 1st 30 hours, and I hope you're already recovering from the infection!
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    FYI: I threw the pics up that Marni sent over. You can find them here!
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    Thanks

    Alison and Stefan,

    Thanks for the replies. It is a help as I keep up with my brother in law (Turk) and the other riders as they ride something that I can't fathom for myself at this point.

    KP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    they think it's either a black widow or...
    Damn.

    Continuing on while drugged out, while potentially a really bad idea, definitely deserves some badass cred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jav1231
    FYI: I threw the pics up that Marni sent over. You can find them here!
    Great! Thanks Joe. I'm gonna add this link to the 1st page.
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    Pictures

    Hi All,
    Got some more pic's here that I thought you might enjoy from the race. Also, an update from the ER lab - I have an E-Coli infection. Boy, you train so long, nitpick with your gear, count calories, pray for good weather, and figure that there is nothing to stop you, no matter WHAT... but alas, I didn't expect clammy chamois to take me down. I did feel so great for those first two days, and was stoked to meet my goal of getting to Frisco in 30 hours. Trish and I were doubly motivated by some chick comments that got us fired up at the start. And then with her only a few hours behind me over Georgia Pass, I had some great extra motivation. I'm already looking forward to next year's hopeful redemption. Kick some ass Trish, I'm rooting for you, and everyone out there. Ethan, hope you are coming into Lake City soon, and I have heaps of envy for your shoes. Looks like awesome weather, and the trails are in stellar tacky shape from last weeks rains. Thanks to Stefan for organizing such a GREAT race!
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 12:54, Eddie Turkaly, Chris Neumann, Chuck Ray in Leadville

    This is Eddie Turkaly, Chris Neumann here too. Just got to Leadville. Rolled in just in time to get some food. Also Chuck Ray is here calling in as well. So we're all here together and doing great. What a GREAT ride that was! Can't wait to do more. It was downhill all the way! Downhill, so nice! From Tennessee downhill all the way (multiple voices chiming in on the downhill part). We're outta here.
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    wow...courier bag and fairly minimal kit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGSNOW
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    Got some more pic's here that I thought you might enjoy from the race. Also, an update from the ER lab - I have an E-Coli infection...
    As we say here in Georgia...DAYUM! You take care of yourself!

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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 13:27, Dennis Helton in B.V.

    Yeah, this is Dennis. Colorado Trail rider in BV. Stopped to get food, cables and wanted to say, thanks Barbie, I was going the right way, the numbers were off so it's all good. Yeah, hopefully I can make it through this next section. Later.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 13:35, Matt Fusco, Curtis Burge in Leadville

    Hey this is Matt Fusco and Curtis Burge hanging out in Leadville. Got here about 11:30, had some food at the Golden Burro after camping out at the top of Kokomo Pass last night. A little brisk, but not any place better so far to camp. So, things are going well. Thanks, bye.
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    Matt's another NC friend. This thread ROCKS!
    I really love the whacked out "sound" of Dennis's messages, the stuff after BV to US 50 was some of the best mountain biking - note- this does not mean best trail or wilderness- of my trip. He'll make it.

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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 14:53, Marshal Bird in Leadville

    Hi, this is Marshal Bird. It's Thursday, 2:51. I'm in Leadville. Just rolled into town. Saw some other Colorado Trail racers. Chris Neumann and 4 other guys. Couple of 'em just left and a couple of 'em are having lunch. I'm gonna chow down on a quick burrito and headin' out of town. Talk to ya in Buena Vista. Everyone else, good luck out there. Bye, bye.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 15:06, Tim Graczyk in B.V.

    Hello. This is Tim Graczyk. It's about 5 after 3 and I finally made it to BV. After I called last night, I was gonna call again and mention that I hadn't seen anybody all day yesterday, and shortly after that I saw Dennis. I made it past him coming up Half Moon Creek road last night and camped a bit ahead of him. He passed me this morning, got liek a 15 min. head start. I was feeling good, thinking about coming down here to bV and having tacos and calling my wife who I haven't talked to in several days, and descended down to Independence Pass road and I made a total bonehead move and I took a left, and I rode all the way out to 24 and took a right. And riding on 24, didn't really put it together, and started to think that the road wasn't really doing what it supposed to do, and there was 390 on my right. And, uh, pretty much realized what I had done, and my world came to a skidding halt. Sat there for about 20 minutes weighing my options, and finally I decided to backtrack up 24 and back up Independence Pass Rd. to the trail, and continued on the trail all the way around Twin Lakes, and over the mountainous areas and so forth. And then, uh, the trail comes to another road, 398 it turns out, and I descended on that, and you're supposed to take a right. I missed that turn, descended way down the road and had to walk back up and continue on. Finally made it here. It's fun. I'm pretty cooked. I'm gonna get some tacos and beer and see what's going on. Might need to reassess, I'm not sure. Anyway, everything's fun, the trail's super fun though. Lot's of good singletrack, lots of fun riding, but tremendously difficult riding a fixed gear like that. So, uh, anyway, I hope to push on. Maybe I might stay stay here tonight, push on in the morning. We'll go from there. See ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn


    wow...courier bag and fairly minimal kit...
    That guy with the minimal kit and courier bag is Jason Shelman and he's well known in Kansas for his routine rides from Lawrence to Wichita using nothing more than a Mexican blanket and a roadside ditch. If anyone knows how to live on nothing more than dirt, it's Jason. Plus, he looks to be rocking his McClung 29er which means he should be rolling pretty smoothly.

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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 15:08, Keith Eckstein flu or food poisoning in Frisco.

    Hey Joe, this is Keith Eckstein. I'm in Frisco. I've got the stomach flu or food poisoning or something, so I am out. Today is Thursday about 3:15 in the afternoon on Thursday. I guess that's it. Thanks.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 15:11, Dave Nice calls it quits near Copper

    Hey everybody. It's Dave, it's about 3:15. Tried riding up the bike path towards Copper only made it about 2.5 miles, my knee's just too messed up. Umm, yeah, it's just not feeling to hot. I just didn't realize it was still goofed up this morning when I was still dealing with all the, whatever bit me. So, I'm off. Gonna try to rest up. Hopefully, maybe work a few days and then hit up the Leadville Trail 100. Rumor mill is that Lance is gonna be there, so maybe, I can, uhh, you know, suck his wheel or something... Anyway, good luck to everyone else still out there. Everbody keep the rubber side down and ride safe.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 22:16, Jim Ishman pulls out in Leadville

    This is Jim Ishman calling in. I hit Leadville about 8:15 Thursday evening. My ride's gonna end here. I'm just not making the timetable that I need to make, so I'm gonna pull out where it's easy to get a ride home, but uh, thanks guys, and I'm sure I'll follow up somewhere on the interwebs. Talk to ya later, bye.
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    Call-in: 7/31 @ 22:30, Matt Fusco, Curtis Burge in B.V.

    Just want to let you know Matt Fusco and Curtis Burge are in Buena Vista. 10:30 Thursday night.
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    I must say Asheville, NC is really representing in this race! 4 racers (Dennis, Trish, Matt F, Curtis B) in this elite event and all are still chugging along! Working at BioWheels getting these guys geared up and ready has been fun!!

    I'm still waiting for the frantic call from Dennis to have something FedEx'd cuz he broke down!!
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    Call-in: 8/1 @ 05:08, Marshal Bird in B.V.

    This is Marshal, it's Friday 5:06 in Buena Vista. Just got done playing the convenience store shuffle. Getting ready to head out. Hopefully I can make it to the base of Marshall Pass tonight. Lot of stories to tell. Trails... But, uh, here at the convenience store I realized I've been riding with my shorts backwards for the last 2 hours. Guess that's what happens when you put 'em on in your sleeping bag. Anyway, it's been good, and heading down the road. Talk to ya later, bye.
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    Call-in: 8/1 @ 08:06, Tim Graczyk turns around in B.V.

    Hello this is Tim Graczyk. It's Friday morning. I spent the night in B.V. at the Super 8 here, and I've decided to not go on any farther. It's my first attempt at anything like this, and I'm satisfied at how far I've made it. And, uh, sucked it up yesterday after making a critical mistake with my choice of routes and not dropping out when I realized my error and backtracking and finishing the last section here to town so I can take some satisfaction in that too. I'm tired and I'm done. So, I'm gonna turn around and ride back to Boulder. And another night or two and I'll be home. I'm sure I'll try it again - it was super fun. I'd love to do the whole thing at some point. But, like I said, it was my first try, you know how it goes. So, I'm gonna take off now and head home. Thanks for transcribing all my messages and talk to ya later. See ya.
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    You guys and gal are all soldiers, stay tuff, focus and keep riding. Wish the best for each and everyone of you!!

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    Homestretch

    Man I don't want to jinx him but Plesko is killing it and us blue dot junkies are getting a race to watch. Well, sort of.

    Looks like Chris opted for no sleep last night and just kept on hiking through that Sargents mesa area. He's on roads to Silverton now, depending how long he stops in Lake City...and how much last nights trudge will cost him... I'd guess he's 6-8 hours out o Silverton.

    Since there's been no word from anyone hitting Silverton yet (Ethan, Pete, whoever else doesn't have spots) one could assume Chris is no further back from the lead than 6-8 hours.

    On a SS rigid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairball_dh
    Man I don't want to jinx him but Plesko is killing it and us blue dot junkies are getting a race to watch. Well, sort of.

    Looks like Chris opted for no sleep last night and just kept on hiking through that Sargents mesa area. He's on roads to Silverton now, depending how long he stops in Lake City...and how much last nights trudge will cost him... I'd guess he's 6-8 hours out o Silverton.

    Since there's been no word from anyone hitting Silverton yet (Ethan, Pete, whoever else doesn't have spots) one could assume Chris is no further back from the lead than 6-8 hours.

    On a SS rigid.

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    Plesko for President

    Just kidding! I was a bit scared when Chris committed to this on a rigid SS, cause it is so rough and tough and just climbs and climbs, but I am really pulling for him to kill it, He is such a stand up quality human, can't help but want him to do well, has anyone heard from anyone in Silverton yet??? Rock on everyone out there, I am so jealous to be working and watching and not riding, but i know y'all are suffering for me, keep up the good work I am so proud! Peace out Jefe

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    Quote Originally Posted by dRjOn


    wow...courier bag and fairly minimal kit...
    ... and at least through b.v. he's been riding with someone who just a few weeks ago rode a 200 mile solo road race in 8:30, and with someone who likes to ride one portion or another of the Iditarod trail each winter faster than most of us can ride on pavement.

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    5 days?

    I can't believe how fast Chris made it through the Sargents Mesa area! Perhaps a rigid SS is the way to go for that section since there is so much walking regardless... On an SS, there's no second guessing whether you should ride or not - you just git 'er dun.

    Dang, it would be cool to know where Ethan and Pete are in this homestretch battle, but I suppose that makes anticipating the call-ins that much more exciting! Not sure if Chris is planning on stopping in Lake City, but my guess is that Ethan used his experience from last year to stock up on enough food to make it all the way to Silverton. Aside from the heat on day 1, it looks like the weather has been good to everybody too. There hasn't been a single comment in the call-ins about getting thwarted by rain or lightning.

    Last year, it took Jefe and I just over 24 hours to make it from Lake City to the finish. We were wasted and moving slowly (relative to being fresh on a 1-day ride...), but we didn't really sleep either. If Chris keeps on blasting like he has been, he's on target for a 5-day flat finish. And if Ethan has managed to stay in front... 5 days just might broken this year! As anyone knows who has even attempted a 100-mile day on the CT, that is friggin' incredible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justabiker
    That guy with the minimal kit and courier bag is Jason Shelman and he's well known in Kansas for his routine rides from Lawrence to Wichita using nothing more than a Mexican blanket and a roadside ditch. If anyone knows how to live on nothing more than dirt, it's Jason. Plus, he looks to be rocking his McClung 29er which means he should be rolling pretty smoothly.
    Yeah - I rode about 1.5 hours out from the start with Pete and Jason. I carried a bit more stuff for a 3 hour ride than Jason did for 530 miles.

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    nit pick of the week..

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_G
    it took Jefe and I
    Sorry about this, but correct grammar is: Jefe and ME. This is such a common mistake these days (using "I" when it should be "me") and bad grammar really bugs me. I know some of you will say lighten up and English is an evolving language - yada yada yada. One way to get it right is just figure out how it should sound if just one person was the subject - in this case Jefe wasn't around. You wouldn't say "it took I..."
    end of rant.
    On a race note Chris should be traversing - or just past the Slumgullion Slide - a big pile of landslide debris near Lake City. It's a cool geologic feature.
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