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    Brake system poll.. X post from brake forum.

    Hey, i was wondering what brake systems are the most popular for marathon racing

    My guesses would be that Avid, Formula, Hayes and Hope are the most popular.

    I'm hoping to ditch my Formula Oro's this year after a bit of dissapointment with them. Any suggestions for a RELIABLE racing brake, that is DURABLE??

    Thanks!

    (So theres no real poll, but i could'nt figure out how to make one)
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    I'm perfectly satisfied with formula. best brake ever!

    before, i had some problems with juicy 7. (definitely not happy when hot and often irritating loud)

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    I like the performance of them,. but i'm not happy with the durability. The leavers coming out has ended two of my races this year. A waste of a long journey to the race venue for something small like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damitletsride!
    I like the performance of them,. but i'm not happy with the durability. The leavers coming out has ended two of my races this year. A waste of a long journey to the race venue for something small like that.
    THe levers pop out for a reason- to avoid breaking. You can pop them back in without much trouble. It doesn't even take a tool in most cases - though it may take a small allen wrench, depending on how you have the lever reach set.

    I really like my Oro Puros for function, weight, reliability. Formula USA has been good with support and parts following a crash.

    The drawback with the Formulas is that they seem to be rare (uncommon as OEM), so LBSs don't carry parts and pads and don't know a thing about them. That has been my experience in parts of Oz and both eastern and western Canada. Hence, you are one your own maintaining them and carrying spare parts. For someone that doesn't want to do that, Avid and Shimano would be safer bets.

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    kinda heavy but avid bb7... rock solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelMan
    The drawback with the Formulas is that they seem to be rare (uncommon as OEM), so LBSs don't carry parts and pads and don't know a thing about them. That has been my experience in parts of Oz and both eastern and western Canada. Hence, you are one your own maintaining them and carrying spare parts. For someone that doesn't want to do that, Avid and Shimano would be safer bets.
    here in croatia i can get most of the spare parts within 24 hrs.
    if you want to pimp braking power and durability of the pads, try to get green swisstop pads. much better then oem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilish_dwarf
    here in croatia i can get most of the spare parts within 24 hrs.
    if you want to pimp braking power and durability of the pads, try to get green swisstop pads. much better then oem.

    swisstop

    Good to know. I'll try the swisstops.

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    I've spent lots of frustrating time trying to get the leaver back in by the side of the race course, with no luck. I was happy to see lots of replys today, but none of these posts are really what i'm looking for... i want DIFFERENT BRAKES
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    Oh this never happened with my old Hopes by the way,, why can't Formula just sort it out??
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    bb7s haven't failed me yet. plus on longer point to point type races you could theoretically replace a cable if you somehow snapped one. that said my next bike will likely have the new elixers from avid. i want even more power than the bb7s, and kinda been itching to give hydros a serious try and everyone i've talked to likes them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damitletsride!
    I've spent lots of frustrating time trying to get the leaver back in by the side of the race course, with no luck. I was happy to see lots of replys today, but none of these posts are really what i'm looking for... i want DIFFERENT BRAKES
    if you don't like formula, try with new xt.
    modulation maybe not like formula, but strong if not stronger and heavy duty.

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    Mini-Pro X2's

    I've had zero problems with the Hope Mini Pro X2's. They're quite a bit more powerful than the previous generation Mini Pro's, rotors run drag free after wheel changes, the brake pads are now top loading, generally quiet stoppers, and they're light. Just a great brake.

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    Ultimates

    I have 3 years on my Juicy Ultimates on one bike and juicy 7's on the other. No issues with either...I guess I've had great luck with breaks. I finally threw the ultimates on the SS last week as I figure they are getting pretty old and probably need a reduced workload. I think I'm going to get some Marta's for their replacement. The Elixer Mag's and Formula's are tempting, but the Marta's just seem bombproof and the price is right.
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    You can get a lot more power out of the BB7s by moving the inboard pad closer to the rotor. If your rotors are true you can turn your that adjustment dial until there is about a 0.005 clearance and it'll make your brakes feel like on/off switches.

    The problem I have with my BB7s is not in power, but modulation, which is where the hydros are supposed to supersede it.

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    I've had Juicy Ultimates (3 pair in 2 seasons -- thanks, Avid, but come on!), and now have Elixir CR Mags on both bikes, with fingers crossed. So far, so good.

    But.......I also have a 5 year old pair of Shimano XTs that have held up perfectly by rigorously maintaining them by changing pads when they wear out. Nothing else. No bleeds, no fluid replacement. No nothing (well, a little clean and lube on the pistons when I change pads).

    If I had the chance to spec brakes, it would the new Shimano XTs. I guess the new ServoWave system gives more clearance between the rotor and pads, too, which is a big bonus to me, since less perfection in setup is demanded. But as long as the Elixirs keep on working well, I'll save the $$$.
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    (cont from kosmo)
    interesting about the XTs, Im considering them for my current endurance xc build. One thing I keep hearing about them is that they are bomb proof (next to no maintenance) which for me is a big plus. Set and forget brakes.

    Has anyone experienced otherwise?

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    How do the weight of the XT's compare to other systems?? Mid pack or heavier?
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    I think brake systems are just one of those things where how it works is so much more important than how much heavier it may be over other competitors. XT brakes are one of the few products that get consistently good reviews.

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    I have been using Shimano XTR M960s and I really like them OEM pads not that great, but I put Clarks pads in mine and they are steller. I have about 800 miles of racing on mine with zero problems.
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    Shimano Brakes, and I'm guessing most mineral oil breaks, pretty much stop working when temps get below 30 faranheit...at least in my experience. This is the ONLY reason I use brake fluid brakes now and will continue to do so.
    Avid's have been awesome, after long break-in.

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    Do the XT's require a long break-in period?

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    I never really ride below freezing so that wouldnt be a problem about the XT's.
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    Can't say which brakes are best - but I can say that Avid hydros have been nothing but trouble. Seems every time I grab a bike the brakes need bled, or are rubbing, or just plain fail.

    I may be going to BB7s, but I've heard good things about the Martas too. They are supposed to work really well once they are setup and bled properly.
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    I guess ...

    Quote Originally Posted by willevans
    I think brake systems are just one of those things where how it works is so much more important than how much heavier it may be over other competitors. XT brakes are one of the few products that get consistently good reviews.
    That I would tend to agree, except that Hope Mono Mini Pros have been trouble free for me, are easy to maintain, and they are some of the lightest brakes available. As far as I am concerned I have trouble free performance and a very light brake system.

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    I love my xt's, they're great.

    Rode them today in 34 degree weather; 17 miles at Snake Creek Gap with some gnarly downhill rocky descents and had absolutely no problems.

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    I have the XT M775's and apart from one padset change and a bleed, I've had zero issues. They are adjustable, powerful and although they are not the lightest brake out there they are dead easy to work on and replacement parts are available fairly easily. They may not have the bling factor of Formula or Maguras but they are a real workhorse and I personally doubt you could go wrong with them....
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    i rock the new xt calipers with xtr levers- like the lever feel and shape better than the xt levers, like the performance of the calipers better than the xtr...what can i say?

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    I've had some Shimano Deore Hydralic brakes since 2002 and they've been super reliable, even after being launched off the roof of the car and landed on. They have since been on 5 different bikes and still running strong. I don't know how many miles I have on them.

    I also have a newer set of Shimano XT brakes that have done me well.

    I can't say anything good about Hayes brakes, the only set I had were horrible. Granted they were low end but the deore brakes I've been using are low end also. The Hayes required constant adjustment and fiddling and never performed for me.

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    I don't feel so bad after reading all these XT posts. I am building a new Evolve and bolted the brakes on last night...what were they? Some seriously used XT's. Maybe not so bling, but they just work and were in the garage.

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    I want some XT's now!!
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