Bar ends or not?

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  • 01-06-2013
    Dnek
    Bar ends or not?
    Who uses bar ends for endurance races and why?
  • 01-06-2013
    Oro D
    I run the Ergon GS2 grips. They have a short carbon bar end. I like the Ergon grips for endurance racing and the little bar ends help when climbing.

    Oro D
  • 01-06-2013
    DRILLINDK
    No, too easy to get them caught on trees etc when riding.
  • 01-06-2013
    snellvilleGAbiker
    Hell yeah. A MUST for my SS
  • 01-06-2013
    AndrwSwitch
    I like 'em. Nice hand position for climbing, nice hand position if I end up on a road for a while. I have full-sized ski-bends. Kind of curious about some big honkin' L-bends or the old school Scott bar.
  • 01-07-2013
    Damitletsride!
    I made the switch back to straight bars and bar ends for this past race season after using low risers for a few years and I have no regrets, think I'll stick with them for a while now at least! I use a 640mm carbon bar with the Ergon grip/bar-end combo and love it. More options for grip and I like to stretch out my body for climbing sometimes, seems to open up the lungs more.
  • 01-07-2013
    Eric Marshall
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dnek View Post
    Who uses bar ends for endurance races and why?

    I was watching a mtb video the other day and the announcer mentioned that few of
    the Euro pros used bar ends any more, and that wider bars were more in fashion.
    Are wider bars and bar ends really two different solutions to the same problem? I'm
    just a newbie, not judging anyone.

    Thanks in advance.
  • 01-09-2013
    jetboy23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Marshall View Post
    I was watching a mtb video the other day and the announcer mentioned that few of
    the Euro pros used bar ends any more, and that wider bars were more in fashion.
    Are wider bars and bar ends really two different solutions to the same problem?

    I run a 700mm with bar ends. I like the comfort and stability of a 680-720mm bar. Although, the wider bar doesn't address the added hand positions available with bar ends. I have tried to run the bar alone, but, constantly miss the grip options.
  • 01-09-2013
    Scott In MD
    Ergons yes, Bar Ends no.
  • 01-10-2013
    DLd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eric Marshall View Post
    I was watching a mtb video the other day and the announcer mentioned that few of
    the Euro pros used bar ends any more, and that wider bars were more in fashion.
    Are wider bars and bar ends really two different solutions to the same problem? I'm
    just a newbie, not judging anyone.

    Thanks in advance.

    No, they address different problems. Bar-ends help you get your weight forward for climbs primarily. Many also like being able to adjust hand positions on long flat stretches. Wider bars primarily offer more control on technical sections and rocky downhills.

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  • 01-11-2013
    Levi_501
    Bar ends rule!

    I also run flat bars (580/590) with a long stem (130)
  • 01-12-2013
    ascarlarkinyar
    bar ends are just added weight. unless you are doing crazy long mileage that you need different handholds to ease pain, no need. it's a luxury that adds to slowing you down. this is racing not touring.

    short races are about going as fast as possible. ditch the luxury and go faster.
  • 01-12-2013
    jetboy23
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ascarlarkinyar View Post
    bar ends are just added weight.

    Mine might weigh 80g on a static part of my bike. Hardly a detriment to my speed. I doubt you would be able to measure in tenths of a second over a 20mi race. The benefits "outweigh" the weight.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ascarlarkinyar View Post
    unless you are doing crazy long mileage that you need different handholds to ease pain, no need.

    Any ride over 1hr i find the comfort to be an asset. The longer i'm comfortable, the longer i can ride.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ascarlarkinyar View Post
    short races are about going as fast as possible. ditch the luxury and go faster.

    You do know this is the "Endurance" forum, right? I figured it was assumed this was for 6+ hrs of riding. Even then, as i said, after 1hr of riding the 80g is negligible for the hand positions it provides me. Especially since most of my riding is SS and my body position is all over the place.
  • 01-12-2013
    ascarlarkinyar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jetboy23 View Post
    Mine might weigh 80g on a static part of my bike. Hardly a detriment to my speed. I doubt you would be able to measure in tenths of a second over a 20mi race. The benefits "outweigh" the weight.



    Any ride over 1hr i find the comfort to be an asset. The longer i'm comfortable, the longer i can ride.



    You do know this is the "Endurance" forum, right? I figured it was assumed this was for 6+ hrs of riding. Even then, as i said, after 1hr of riding the 80g is negligible for the hand positions it provides me. Especially since most of my riding is SS and my body position is all over the place.



    stobe you need to train harder if one hour is too long for you....lol

    i'll see you on monday at 8am to work on that :thumbsup:

    and yes of course if your on a SS it is mandatory to use barends. all my SS have barends.





    the way i see it in races:
    1-3 hours is a sprint, go all out with the lightest bike possible to win no matter how uncomfortable. turn brain off and go all out. if you train enough your body will know what to do.

    4-9 hours, ride the lightest bike you can finish in the fastest time. comfort is still a luxury. we are still seeing xc speeds on endurance races now. guys are pushing lower LT watts at these hours and winning. yes destroying themselves too, but winning.

    10-48 hours, make adjustments so your body does not wear out before your brain does. padding on carbon saddles, barends, maybe even suspension.

    2-30 days very little other than going to extremes is going to make a difference. it's all about mind over pain and more pain and some more pain. a little extra comfort, weight or luxury is not going to win or lose a race. a lot might. it's all about enduring and your physical/mental limits.
  • 01-13-2013
    brianW.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DRILLINDK View Post
    No, too easy to get them caught on trees etc when riding.

    Been riding since '91 and this only happened once and it was a vine. My Ergons have probably saved my pinky more from sides of trees then I can count. To me they are a must but it is your ride. Try them, if you don't like them, place them in the parts bin.
  • 01-13-2013
    theMeat
    On some bikes I never miss em and on some I use em all the time. I like the big honkin L-bends, then I cover them with nice squishy, grippy bar tape for added grip comfort and diameter.
    If you like em use em.
  • 01-13-2013
    cale399
    To each their own, I love mine and will keep using them
  • 01-13-2013
    Mark in Baltimore
    Love bar ends on my bikes. The ability to change positions to avoid hand fatigue is invaluable, in addition to the help with climbing.
  • 01-15-2013
    frecklepanther
    Only knobs use bar ends! Don't succumb.
  • 02-05-2013
    sir_crackien
    while I would not call myself an endurance racer and not even really an endurance rider (let) I will say that having barends are a nice option the bigger you are. I am 6'5" tall and weight 260 currently and am aiming for about 230 lbs which is quite light for me. having that extra hand position is very nice because I weight more I have more stress on my hands. also that extra stretch/leverage is very nice on the steeper climbs, it helps keep that front tire on the ground while still pedalling hard.
  • 02-20-2013
    nOOky
    No bar ends, haven't used them for many years. I tried Ergons, but didn't like them. I like to rotate my hands quite a bit, I felt those restricted that. I only use flat bars and I don't miss bar ends, although I can see why many people do.
    Use whatever you're comfortable with after trying the options yourself I guess.
  • 02-20-2013
    Lenny7
    I use to have them. One day they hooked a vine when I was going about 20. Not pretty for me or my front wheel. I run the Jones loop bar now. Gives lots a variety for hand positions
  • 02-20-2013
    tbutter
    Re: Bar ends or not?
    I'm in for barends on my flat bar rigid 29er ergon gp2, I enjoy mine
    Its a matter of preference, it would be nice to try before you buy

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  • 02-20-2013
    PeT
    I use bar ends on both the geared and single speed bike for several reasons. First, if I'm on a power section (flat or uphill), wether in the saddle or out, I want my hands further forward than when I'm riding technical sections or going downhill -- I feel I get a better power output that way. But it's not how I want to be when things get rough -- I want my hands in the moto position and near the brakes. Second, I like the fact that one of the bikes has a riser bar and having bar ends on 'em pisses off the fashionistas.
  • 02-20-2013
    julien AR
    Bar ends are good to change hand position on long rides, however I find them useless for climbing because grabbing the handlebar by its extremities create an awkward and counter productive posture. I find that having your hands aligned with your shoulder and your elbows close to the rib cages allows a higher pedaling output. In other words using bar ends to climb is like doing pushups and pullups with your hands far apart *it's harder that way.