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    2014 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo

    Registration opens today.

    Who's doing it?
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    What would you tell to someone who hasn't done this race before?
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    Be prepared for any kind of weather including snow.

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    I've done it 4 time previously, two as 4-man and two as duo.

    This time I'll be rolling solo.

    The course isn't very technical but it's a fun event.

    The weather can be schizophrenic. Had rain in '05, nice and sunny in '07, snow in '08 and sunny again in '09.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    Registration opens today.

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    10th year for me, 6th solo. It's by far the most fun race of the year. Course is 17 mile loop on about 3:1 single track to dirt road. About a 3 on the technical level, as lap times for the teams are low to mid 50s for the fast riders (to give you an idea of how fast they are going). Almost zero climbing (under 1K for the 17-mile loop).

    The vibe of the race is like one I've never seen. Everybody is there to have fun, even the pros.

    Despite the claims that the weather can be bad, of the 13 years, I can only recall one year where the rain made it impossible to ride. Yes, it did snow one year, but that was the Friday before the race, and was gone by race time. Wind can be bad some times, but nothing you can't over come.

    The 24 hour town is the reason to go. Over 1,000 racers, 3,000 participants in the middle of nowhere. It's like Burning Man for bikers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    Despite the claims that the weather can be bad, of the 13 years, I can only recall one year where the rain made it impossible to ride.
    Good point!

    Each time I've ridden it, everything was ride able and I remember all of the trails being in really good shape. The only bummer about the rain in '05 for our team was my buddy, Paul. Every time it was his turn it seemed like the rain picked up just a bit more than the rest of us
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    Re: 2014 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo

    I'm an experienced 24hr racer as is most of my team. We've never done this one before, somewhat because of the timing but mostly because it is more than 12 hours of driving for us. We are looking forward to it.

    Can anyone compare it to the now extinct 24 hours of Moab? 18 hours of Fruita?

    If we show up Friday around noon will we still find a camping spot? How do you bribe a local to mark one early for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    I'm an experienced 24hr racer as is most of my team. We've never done this one before, somewhat because of the timing but mostly because it is more than 12 hours of driving for us. We are looking forward to it.

    Can anyone compare it to the now extinct 24 hours of Moab? 18 hours of Fruita?

    If we show up Friday around noon will we still find a camping spot? How do you bribe a local to mark one early for you?
    I believe numbers wise, it's the biggest in the U.S. I have not done either Fruita or Moab, so don't know camping situation. At OP, it's pretty much first come, first serve. There is no real marked off spots. Some racers are selfish in taking up more space than necessary. But by race day, most are able to find a spot. If you show up Friday at noon, you'll find a nice spot. Maybe not a prime spot, but you should be fine. It starts to get crowded around 3 on Friday.
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    Re: 2014 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo

    Thanks, that gives us a time to shoot for and it's definitely the kind of info I need.
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    I'm in for solo male. First timer. Helped my daughter on a team last year and just had to do it this time. Unfortunately doing it solo means I will miss most of the party.

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    In as a duo this year with another MTBRer. After 2 prior solo attempts I decided to change it up.

    Fri AM will give you plenty of time to find a spot. After 5 on Friday people start to squeeze massive RVs and motorhomes way to close together.

    Course is mellow, I've taken some beginners out on pre-rides and they have a blast. The only tech feature on the course has a bypass option.

    A competitive 4 man will average just over an hour a lap.

    Like others have said, be prepared for anything weather-wise.

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    Great race, easy course . Main issue Cactus and lots of it, it jumps out at you and holds on for dear life. Get one of the combs its a must. Also if you have sensitive eyes get googles that filter dust. when it gets windy its tough on the eyeballs. I think Tinker DNF last year because he could not see anymore.

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    I pretty much bring every piece of ride clothing I have, you never know what is going to happen.

    Also, a camera is a must. The two best sunsets I have ever seen were at that race.

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    Dust in the air always makes for a good sunset. It was that way every night in Iraq.
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    I signed up for this year, I was hoping to go solo, but it sold out quickly. I'm in for duo and can't wait! Hope its sunny and in the 70s, but will be ready for any conditions! sounds like its a fun event.

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    Wind! No one has mentioned the wind. I've seen tents blow away most years at OP. Bring good stakes or sandbags to hold down your EZ-up. One year (2011 I think it was) it was so windy on course I was blown sideways into a Barrel Cacti and had my foot stapled to it - good times always at OP!!

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    i missed registration for 24 hours of old pueblo 2014 solo male. willing to buy an entry from someone. be willing to pay more. please please someone out there must be able to help me.

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    i will do single speed solo male.......

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    You will do duo or 4person and like it.
    jk, good luck on buying a solo entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyndaW View Post
    Wind! No one has mentioned the wind. I've seen tents blow away most years at OP. Bring good stakes or sandbags to hold down your EZ-up. One year (2011 I think it was) it was so windy on course I was blown sideways into a Barrel Cacti and had my foot stapled to it - good times always at OP!!
    Yeah, I forgot (or blocked out) about that year. I remember hearing about your cacti encounter, no bueno.

    additionally, no talking about weather until the week of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoracerX View Post
    You will do duo or 4person and like it.
    jk, good luck on buying a solo entry.

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    In '08 solo filled before I could get a spot so I signed up for coed duo and arranged for a friend (female non-GF) to partner. She bailed with less than a week before the event, so I just rode the whole thing.

    Turns out I took third in duo coed with no partner. When I got called to the podium I told Todd that I had not had a partner ride any laps. He gave me the hairy eyeball and went to find who was fourth. There was a gal supporting me and her husband who was solo who had offered to take a lap for me in the morning, but I turned her down. She could have turned a nice fast lap too--coulda maybe took us up another place. By that time my 77-year-old mother could have ridden a lap faster than what I was turning...

    Coed Duo is way, WAY faster now than it was then. I would have been 4 or 5 laps back from the coed duo podium last year...
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    Can we talk tires??? What do veterans of this race recommend? 2.3 width to stay on top of the sand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmbspicerider View Post
    Can we talk tires??? What do veterans of this race recommend? 2.3 width to stay on top of the sand?
    Go narrow. The course is very non-techy, and fast. 2.3 will slow you down.
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    Sand?? It's all hardpack. You can get by without sidewall protection if you're careful. I've run sb8's f&r the last couple years

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    Thanks, for the input on tires. Any other suggestions would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmbspicerider View Post
    Thanks, for the input on tires. Any other suggestions would help.
    Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmbspicerider View Post
    Thanks, for the input on tires. Any other suggestions would help.
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    Looks like it's all booked up now. My 15 year old daughter did it on a team last year with Pua Mata and had so much fun she was trying to get a bunch of NICA kids together for a team but couldn't put it together in time. She now says she'd like to get on another team or try to get a solo entry. Any ladies who want to sell a solo entry out there?

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    Doing it with a 4 man team SS, we will see how it goes since I had surgery on my Radius and got a plate and 7 screws put in 2 1/2 weeks ago. Can get back on the bike after Christmas which will give me 6 weeks to train...eek

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    Flying down from Toronto to ride it on a 4 man SS team as well. Really looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Stone View Post
    Flying down from Toronto to ride it on a 4 man SS team as well. Really looking forward to it.
    Four of us will be heading down from Canada (Rossland, Jasper, Calgary, Fernie) to do it as Solo racers. Two of us on SS and two on gears. We will be part of a larger group that includes three more US Solo racers. If you want to hook up before, during or after the race, just drop me a line.

    If this is your first time at this event, you are going to enjoy it. Besides being well organized, it has a great vibe. Plus, you won't be hike a biking through four feet of snow. ;-)

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    anyone have a solo open slot? I have a two-man slot, but my buddy bailed on me! I can trade the two man or pay extra for the solo!!

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    I was fortunate enough to score a solo slot. I had purchased a 2 person male slot and was going to ride alone. I spoke with them and this is allowed. You can't do it if it's a coed team, though, due to the rule about minimum lap disparity.

    That said, I have a 2 person male team entry available if anyone wants it. All I ask is the original entry fee plus the transfer fee.

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    Anyone looking for a male duo team registration? I've got'em here for you! Im selling them for $230.00 which is 22.29 cheeper then you could have got them for before registration closed more than a month ago. Let me know A,S,A,P.

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    2014 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo

    I have never raced this race so take my input with a grain of salt (or sand?) ... but I pre-rode 2 laps last weekend and got some experience on the course. It's not a technical course. Fast windy, twisty, sandy hard pack. Several long climbs. Some rocks, but not rocky. Something like a Maxxis Ikon or a Spesh Fast Track or even a Kenda Small Block or Schwalbe Racing Ralph in 2.0 to 2.2 would work fine. I'm going to run an Ikon 2.2 in the back and a Spesh Ground Control 2.3 in the front.

    Here are some pics of the course:





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    Bring some comb's Those cactus will jump out at you.

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    Thanks for the pics. This event is fast approaching!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiktm View Post
    Bring some comb's Those cactus will jump out at you.
    Should be one included in your goodie bag.

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    anyone looking for a duo spot? Hit me up if you are interested!!

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    Whats the definative vertical climb for 1 lap of Old Pueblo? The Epic map says 1,200' but I tend to not trust thier numbers. They call the Whiskey 25 and we all know its not and their vertical is wrong that map too? Strava shows the Old Pueblo vert as 534'. Whats the real deal?

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    Strava's numbers differ from Topofusion's all the time. I think they're working from different data sets and I'm positive the GPS tosses in an additional variable.

    Figure right about 1,000. Most of it you won't notice since you're holding speed as you climb out of washes and up the *****es

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    Quote Originally Posted by jofmon View Post
    Whats the definative vertical climb for 1 lap of Old Pueblo? The Epic map says 1,200' but I tend to not trust thier numbers. They call the Whiskey 25 and we all know its not and their vertical is wrong that map too? Strava shows the Old Pueblo vert as 534'. Whats the real deal?
    Hhmmm, that's actually a good question. I just checked my Strava. Looks like I did 4 laps without turning off my GPS, and measured 3600 feet. So, that's about 920 feet per. 1200 sounds way too high, but I'm pretty sure 534 is too low. There are no real hills. There is a gradual uphill the last 3-4 miles that get steepish the last 400 feet or so. But nothing to be concerned with.
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    How bad are the *****es?
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    Not bad. Even on a SS you can keep enough momentum to get halfway up the next one

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    2014 24 Hours in the Old Pueblo

    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    How bad are the *****es?
    They might start to hurt later in the race. Buy the nice thing is you're rewarded with a nice long decent afterwards to spin.
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    So it's not worth it to take the longer way around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentfoe View Post
    So it's not worth it to take the longer way around?
    IMO, no. It adds more distance and time. I know some competitive soloists even just walk them when they are conserving energy. Each is no more than 200 yards long, and there are only like 3 of them that are really steep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    IMO, no. It adds more distance and time. I know some competitive soloists even just walk them when they are conserving energy. Each is no more than 200 yards long, and there are only like 3 of them that are really steep.
    +1. My 1st solo I wasn't aiming to be competitive and did it just to see what it was like. It's more fun, but was adding 5+ min a lap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloHorn View Post
    I was fortunate enough to score a solo slot. I had purchased a 2 person male slot and was going to ride alone. I spoke with them and this is allowed. You can't do it if it's a coed team, though, due to the rule about minimum lap disparity.

    That said, I have a 2 person male team entry available if anyone wants it. All I ask is the original entry fee plus the transfer fee.
    VeloHorn, did you say that you were able to successfully move from duo to solo? Do you think that's still an option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KasonSmith View Post
    VeloHorn, did you say that you were able to successfully move from duo to solo? Do you think that's still an option?
    Today is the last day to transfer solo spots. I know they reserve a set number of solo spots for the race, so unlikely you'd be able to officially change categories since fairly certain the waiting list for solo is long. But I think he's saying that if you sign up as duo, there is nothing excluding only one person riding (i.e., second person backs out last minute, etc.) Obviously, the registration fee is twice the price.

    In the past, they used to have a rule that no one rider could ride more than two laps more than another rider, no matter what sex they were. But I'm guessing that rule is no more, or reserved just for coed teams? That said, I don't think it was ever enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual Observer View Post
    IMO, no. It adds more distance and time. I know some competitive soloists even just walk them when they are conserving energy. Each is no more than 200 yards long, and there are only like 3 of them that are really steep.
    Agree with you on this for sure. During some pre-rides my team experimented by multiple runs where we sent two riders through the *****es and two riders through the bypass to meet up where the bypass merges back in. Every single time the bypass was at least a minute slower and usually more. It gets even worse during the race because a lot of slower riders take the bypass and it is really hard to get around them on the singletrack. The *****es are on a dirt road so passing is quick and easy.

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