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    2012 Ouachita Challenge

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    Who's in? Registration has been open for <10 min and there are already 223 people registered for the Sunday race & about the same for the Saturday tour.

    EDIT: Carey Lowery just showed up on the list... sh*t just got real!
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    Damn- sold out in 18 minutes!
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    Yeah I was totaly amazed that at less than 1 min after registration opened there were already 90+ people signed up.

    Should be fun

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    If (like me) you blew through your 6 AM CST alarm and missed the registration, there's a thread on the Bike Arkansas forum for anyone looking for a slot. If you want to transfer yours I'm looking for one
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    Just was reading the wait list, here is the 2012, still boggled filled up so fast and this many already wanting spots. Cant wait, will be my first time doing this race.

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    To say BikeReg's site was acting flakey is an understatement. I don't think they were ready for the onslaught of 575 spots being taken in <18 minutes. I managed to get all but one of my gang registered, so, like a ton of other people we're on the lookout for a spot.

    I dunno, I can't help but feel nostalgic about back-n-tha-day when the OC took months to sell out, if at all..Maybe it's time they move to a lottery like Leadville..Or at least move the registration opening back to 2am..
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    Could do what some rich guy suggested and double the entry fee! Think he was in the 1%

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    Got a spot on the Saturday Tour. Shooting for 5:30. That's 30 minutes faster than last year.
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    Its the tour for me. Im super excited and ready to start training. Im from Jonesboro, will riding craighead forest be enough to get me ready?

    Ive got a buddy needing a spot in thr tour.

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    Yep... missed it by a few minutes as well.

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    I am in for the Sunday race. I have never done a 60 mile race and am a flatlander. I actually started a good training program, yesterday. Here goes nothing!

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    You'll be fine- my advice (as long as they're running the course the same way as the last two years) is to take it easy at the start/first 3 mountains on the Ouachita trail so that you aren't dead when you get down the road section to the Womble.
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    Just show up and do both days. Remember your time and you'll know where you would've placed. Fun riding for free with all those people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman601 View Post
    Just show up and do both days. Remember your time and you'll know where you would've placed. Fun riding for free with all those people!
    riding a pay event for free is bad juju.

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    Why? If I go there and ride, not going to was unimpressed with the race last year, and don't use aide stations, or otherwise inhibit the race what's the problem?


    Really, I don't get what you mean. Bad juju is having the organizer add a bunch of time to your result because the people at the start finish forgot to write down your time and when you email him the info to get the actual result, still not a very good placing, he goes ahead and adds about an hour to the time you gave him.

    No, not hypothetical, it is what happened to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarkinsmel View Post
    Really, I don't get what you mean.
    By "bad juju," he's trying to put it politely that, even if you don't use the aid stations or get in anyone's way, it's a dick move... based soley on basic principals and etiquette that people who aren't ***** follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea138 View Post
    By "bad juju," he's trying to put it politely that, even if you don't use the aid stations or get in anyone's way, it's a dick move... based soley on basic principals and etiquette that people who aren't ***** follow.
    Succinctly and perfectly written response, Andrea.

    No one but a dick picks the only day of the year that a race is scheduled to ride a particular trail system.

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    yes, yes. I understand exactly what was meant by dirtdirt223. I also know the trails aren't closed for the race, I also know that I personally wouldn't ride them while the race was going on.

    I am pointing out that while not exactly the best idea, I have no clue how one could get bad Ju Ju for riding on a race course.

    Glad you both apparently love this race and feel it is the personal domain for the racers on the day of the race, it doesn't belong to the racers. Other trail users can and were out there when I raced, I guess they are ***** too....

    have a great night, perhaps there is bad Ju Ju for name calling.....

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    I agree with Andrea on JuJu comment and add the old adage, "what comes around goes around". My experience with Ouachita scoring is that they are quick to post the times and are open to correction. Your experience must be old, they have improved it over the years and changed the finish line.
    As you finish you get a numbered card with the time on it for you to fill out. It is your responsibility to get the card and turn it in. After the record the card, it is posted on a wall for all to see. There are no age group trophies but great door prizes. The community welcomes the event and cheers everyone on. They also open the school the before and feed us before, during, and after. It's all about the ride and bragging rights.
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    Now as for the flatlander that opened this topic, get out and train on the mtb doing long distances and find some hills if you want to finish before the cut offs. There are people that don't finish. You need to know that your seat won't chafe you on long rides and you need to practice your nutrition and hydration. You also need to develop your leg muscles to handle climbs because there are climbs. You will not make cut offs if you think you can just walk the hills, they're bigger then that. The finish line is a on a hill. You also need to be comfortable with riding position while climbing, know your bike will shift in climbs and how to handle the bike if you stall on a climb. Also, begin watching weather reports two weeks prior and try to have fun. Finally, make sure your bike has been tuned up at least two weeks prior so you can control what you can control. And be sure to have fairly new tires and fresh Stans if you run tubeless.
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    @kamakazeesugar, I think that you are talking to me. Thanks for your input. Currently, my longer rides are on the weekends and progress in time in saddle as it gets closer to April 1st. I plan on taking a trip or two between now and April and ride the first 2 or 3 climbs to know what to expect.

    I definately need to figure out the nutrition/hydration part for the race. During a 1.5 hr ride yesterday at a semi-technical trail with small climbs that are speed bumps compared to this race, I drank about 20 oz of water/Infinit mix and was started to work up an appetite. I don't know how close the aid stations are or what type of grub they have there but it looks like I am going to need to bring a whole bag of drink mix and several sandwiches! I also plan on doing a 4 hr race this month and in Feb and maybe in March just so I can practice my hydration/nutrition. These will be just training races for me.

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    Sounds like some good planning. Infinit is the best. If I recall there are at least three stocked aid stations, maybe a fourth. The first one I remember is early, most riders skip it. They usually have fruit, pbj, water, and Heed. There are always plenty of workers helping at the aid stations.
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    It happened last year. The volunteer who took my time, walked over to me while talking to her friends who were laughing and talking about whatever. Got all my info and I asked "you have my time? You don't need anything else? You sure? Seems a little weird. You have it right?" She replied, "Yes". I was listed as a DNF.

    As for open to correcting mistakes, well at least they added me to the finishers. As for improvement, can't comment to that. Only did one, heard about rocks found about three on the course.

    I still don't get what would actually "Come around". I mean, and this is exactly what I mean, the course is not closed, the course in on public land, it is not the private domain of the people racing on the day of the race, if by being a dick you mean riding trails that are open to the public trails open to EVERYONE on the day of the race then you need to rethink riding at all. I personally wouldn't ride the trails the day of the race.

    The venom you folks seem to have toward people you have never ridden with, know or have any clue about is always a surprise to me. Another thing that is always shocking is the lack of reading comprehension on these boards. Andrea opened the thread to say she got in, the flatlander he/she is the 12th post.....

    I am not going to give my personal impressions of the race proper, but aside from the problem at the finish the volunteers were helpful and kind. Again, "comes around"?

    My time was altered a lot by helping two people and stopping on the final climb, when I was out of tubes to help a guy from Oklahoma to get to the end by pumping up his rear tire twice while we rode to the final aid station. What I somehow got what "comes around" by helping other racers finish while I witnessed gobs of the other racers roll by not saying a word or checking if the people I was helping needed anything. Then I guess I will have to keep getting what comes around.

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    I just wanted to bump this back up and see how everyone is doing on training. As the time draws closer I get more and more nervous. Ive been wearing the local 10 mile loop out. My speed seems to be ok but I havent done any long rides. I plan to get on my old road bike and do my distance training. I still have a friend looking to get into the tour on saturday, If anyone knows of a spot.

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    Life has been getting in the way but I have been at least putting in a couple rides during the week and one long ride on the weekends. At best, I can put in a couple of rides during the week and 2 rides on weekends.

    I did a 4 hour race in January and planned on doing one on 2/18 but it was rained out.

    Diet is all my bad. I have been using the workouts as excuses to eat what I want and drink beer.

    I have upgraded my frame and fork in the past couple of weeks which has helped me with training motivation. Naturally, it has been raining on the weekends since then so I have spent time with my roadie.

    I cannot believe that race day is just around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowOnO2 View Post
    Life has been getting in the way but I have been at least putting in a couple rides during the week and one long ride on the weekends. At best, I can put in a couple of rides during the week and 2 rides on weekends.

    I did a 4 hour race in January and planned on doing one on 2/18 but it was rained out.

    Diet is all my bad. I have been using the workouts as excuses to eat what I want and drink beer.

    I have upgraded my frame and fork in the past couple of weeks which has helped me with training motivation. Naturally, it has been raining on the weekends since then so I have spent time with my roadie.

    I cannot believe that race day is just around the corner.
    Sounds like you did Johnson's Branch in January and were planning on doing Boulder as well. I did JB and also did one in Lake Thunderbird Oklahoma. Its been hard to ride here in North Texas because we've been getting tons of rain but I'll be ready.
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    You are correct. The road ride is great to supplement but man am I itching for a ride on some dirt.

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    Training? do you mean riding? ;-) I haven't started to "train", just riding a little but not as much as I should... It will be painful anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowOnO2 View Post
    You are correct. The road ride is great to supplement but man am I itching for a ride on some dirt.
    Rode the Ray Roberts Greenbelt to IDB, did the A,B,C,D, and E loops, then rode back to the Greenbelt trail head for a total of over 40+ miles in 3:25:00. That was a pretty good training ride
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    I should probably look into hotels to stay at Ouachita. Last minute guy!

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    I am woefully unprepared, done a few 20+ mile rides and a 50 on pretty flat terrain. Think weather is good today so am going to try to ride from Plainview to Abernathy (TX) and back. It's pretty flat but there is a little elevation change thrown in there. Maybe I won't die on the Tour.

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    I don't feel prepared either but it's not called "challenge" for nothing
    It will hurt and it is meant to
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    I wanted to post if anyone wanted to trade my Race for their Tour spot. But I was on vacation with the wife and kids and did not have that great of internet connection on my cell.

    Too bad the deadline for transfers has past. DOH!

    And I still have not made sleeping arrangements for the race. I better get on it.

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    Advice needed for the race.

    The longest distance I have ridden previously is around 35 mi. That has always been done on my Full suspension 26er. I have a hard tail 29er as well. Need recommendations on the bike choice. What kind of terrain are we talking about…rocky & technical or smooth & fast.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Just looking to at least finish the Ouachita Challenge and not DNF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoTurner5 View Post
    Advice needed for the race.

    The longest distance I have ridden previously is around 35 mi. That has always been done on my Full suspension 26er. I have a hard tail 29er as well. Need recommendations on the bike choice. What kind of terrain are we talking about…rocky & technical or smooth & fast.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Just looking to at least finish the Ouachita Challenge and not DNF!
    FS 29er is the way to go (assuming your FS bike isn't 35#s). It's not super rocky, but rocky enough you won't want to do the HT thang.

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    Thanks Mudge!

    My 26er FS is at 26lbs.

    Actually looking a swaping my hard tail 29er for a FS. Won't make that happen before the OC.

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    HT 29 is the most common bike I've seen being ridden by the locals... sometimes rigid, and often singlespeed.
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    Any SS gearing advice? I'm thinking 32/19 or 34/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traildead View Post
    Any SS gearing advice? I'm thinking 32/19 or 34/20.
    I'm thinking 32x19 on my 29er as well. Rode out there about a month ago with 32x20 and it was fine. Hoping 19 will give me a little more on the rode sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trub View Post
    I'm thinking 32x19 on my 29er as well. Rode out there about a month ago with 32x20 and it was fine. Hoping 19 will give me a little more on the rode sections.
    If you push the 32x19 on the climbs, you may not have anything left to take advantage of the 19 on the rode (sic) sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudge View Post
    If you push the 32x19 on the climbs, you may not have anything left to take advantage of the 19 on the rode (sic) sections.
    I'm not a spinner and when I rode it in February the 20 had a little too much spin for my taste. To each his own.

    Now Syllamo's is a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trub View Post
    I'm not a spinner and when I rode it in February the 20 had a little too much spin for my taste. To each his own.

    Now Syllamo's is a different story.
    I did syllamo last year.Attempted the 100 but was done after the 60 I was expecting this to be WAY harder. Am I wrong?
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    Who knows if I'm ready or not. Been doing a good amount of training, mostly a mix of gravel and road with some offroad mixed in. Done a few nice long rides, taking it easy this week (head cold and rain didn't help). Done a little bit of running and lower body workouts to accomodate the hike a bike sections. I'll (hopefully) do offroad this weekend if the rain stops, otherwise it's back onto the cross bike again. Nutrition should be dialed - EFS gel and drink mix, homemade energy bars, PB&J sandwiches and a boatload of water.

    We're planning to drive down Friday and get some short rides in Friday and Saturday to loosen the legs up. Staying at the school, as it's dirt cheap and that's what they guys I'm going with have done in the past.

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    Anybody know what the trail conditions are like right now? I have heard they are getting hammered with rain and flash floods. I will be curious to see what the water crossings will be like.

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    How did everyone do?

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    I finished! haha

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    My rear brake went kaput at the very end of Blow Out Mountain right before getting on the gravel road. I tapped both brakes but since the only one that was working was the front brake, I ended up doing an endo. I didn't have the know-how to repair it so I had to DNF.

    Also, please tell me that most of you did NOT ride up most of Blow Out Mountain to make me feel better about my bike skills.

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