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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin
    This baby was built for racing:
    FSA Carbon Cranks
    FSA TI BB
    Sram shifters and rear derailer
    Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
    Fox Float 100
    Sweet build indeed. Sorta kind reminds me of mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-Dub
    Here you go... Joker, Dare, Specialist. Should have my 04' Dare in about a week. Super excited to build it up...
    V-Dub, I look forward to hearing about the new 04 Dare.

    Mine is an oldy but a goodie.


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    Someone posted pics recently...

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
    How did you go about getting the stickers off the wheel set ? I wouldn't mind 'upgrading' my wheels to something less garish (Mavic CrossMax XLs). That and it'll save 100 grams or something silly.
    Once that's done how about tackling the "Ellsworth" graphic ?[/QUOTE]
    Someone posted pics recently of a set of new CrossMax's with the stickers removed...looked pretty stealth! I believe he was a Turner rider, the pic was posted either over on the What Bike to Buy forum, or the Turner forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
    Once that's done how about tackling the "Ellsworth" graphic ?
    No can do on the annodized Ellsworth's as the graphics are laser-etched into the frame. Much more durable compared to the old stickers that tended to peal off easily.
    2001 Ellsworth Truth

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    cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Q
    This was the same 03 frame, but as you can see, i upgraded to a romic shock in the rear, hope m4's 185mm, thompson seatpost, raceface stem, truvative crankset, new seat, and that's about it. This was like phase 4.5
    Man, that is a SWEET looking bike! Did I understand you correctly that that's your first mountain bike ever? Not a bad choice.

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    Stem degree?

    Hi msylvan, just wondering, is your stem at a 15 degree angle? If so, do you like the angle?
    Quote Originally Posted by msylvan
    Here's my O3' ID, Romic in back, Sherman SPV in front. I may have posted the pictures wrong. Here goes...

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    Stem length and degree rise?

    Hi Merlin,
    I've gotta size small 04 Truth, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the top tube length and need to make the adjustments required to have a top-tube length similar to that of the medium. Now your probably asking why I didn't just get the medium frame to begin with. The answer is that I would've got the medium frame which has a top tube length of 23.5" but because the stand-over height was too much, I resorted to the small, thinking I can make adjustments with some components. Anyways, this is why I have the small, and it's top-tube length is 22.25". If you do the math, this is a 1.25 inch difference in length. To compensate for this, I decided to put in an EC70 seatpost that has 3/4"off-set. Currently, I have a 110mm/10 degree stem. Unfortunately, this stem is too short, and entirely noticable, since I feel scrunched up in the saddle. I'm considering getting a longer stem to compensate for the 1.25" that I don't have, but am afraid of losing steer performance. Do you have a longer stem on your truth, and if so, how do you like it? I wanna set it up my Truth for XC racing like you because I'm entering a race this Spring. Can you help a fellow racer figure out what to do about my stem? Thanks.
    ~Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by merlin
    This baby was built for racing:
    FSA Carbon Cranks
    FSA TI BB
    Sram shifters and rear derailer
    Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
    Fox Float 100

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    [b]check This Ellsworth

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    What to do about my stem?

    Hi Merlin,
    I have a 2004 Truth in a small, but I'm having a bit of a problem with the top-tube length (22.25"). It's too short and I need a few more inches (let's not get nasty hear now). Anyways, I did try the medium and it's top-tube length is what I'm looking for (23.5). Your probably asking yourself, "Why didn't you just get it then." The answer is simple, the stand-over height was too much, so a resorted with the small assuming that I could remedy the problem with some components. If you do the math, the difference in top-tube lengths between the two sizes is 1.25". To compensate for this, I installed an EC70 seat-post that has a 3/4" set-back. Well, I still have about .5" more to inches to reach the desired cockpit room I'm looking for. Obviously, this is where we consider what stem should be used. What stem length and degree rise do you think I should get, and what impact will this have on steer performance. I'm entering a race this Spring, and so I wanna set-up my bike for XC racing. Hope you can help a fellow rider out. Thanks.

    Sincerely,
    Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by merlin
    This baby was built for racing:
    FSA Carbon Cranks
    FSA TI BB
    Sram shifters and rear derailer
    Avid Single Digit TI & V Brakes
    Fox Float 100

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    ... and if we just ... Sweet Id

    This Is One Sweet Id Xtr All The Way Around With All The Right Stuff!!!!
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    XTR Sticker Removal

    They were not on that greatto begin with. THere were a couple of bubbles which si what brought my attention to them. They peel off pretty easy. Just need a good thumb nail to get them going. Looks much cleaner without them.

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    Truth size

    Thanks, I went with a (16"?) small vs. medium mostly to have a little faster handling.
    I used the Weirwolf in the snow last weekend and I was impressed at how well they handle. I think the angular treads help. I have my front set up opposite to the rear.
    I had Mosquito's on before these and they were terrible in any moisture at all. -Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by mtblife
    Hey Bill, nice Truth. Yeah, I switched my tires also, and to Weirwolf. There the best tires I've tried, and I've tried many. I just got these Pythons only for hard packed terrain, and only for this kind of terrain. Using them on any other is futile. By the way, what size Truth are you ridin?

    ~Mike

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    My turn.....

    2002 medium Truth. Serves me very well. I like it.....jdcamb
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    New question here. Ti Spring???

    Quote Originally Posted by jdcamb
    2002 medium Truth. Serves me very well. I like it.....jdcamb
    Is that a Ti spring on your shock?
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Is that a Ti spring on your shock?

    Yes.....jdcamb

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    here's mine

    pic is kida' gay, but I swear it's an Ells.
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    just finished

    I just finished building this although I still need a front derailler and the thompson stem I'm waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie
    I just finished building this although I still need a front derailler and the thompson stem I'm waiting for.
    Nice build Magpie - Blue is a really great colour... I almost wish I choose blue.


    Trevor!

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    My Id for your viewing pleasure

    Disc brakes and rim/hubs to come when the budget allows...
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    I'll Show you mine,...

    The Joker
    2002 w/ Fox
    New rear triangle
    New 04 Super T
    Avid levers and brakes 200mm up front 160mm in back
    XT components
    Holzfeller fatty bar with lock on grips
    Azonic flats
    Berzerker saddle
    Thomson post
    Rhinolite XLs
    2.5 Weirwolf rear(soon to be highroller)
    2.7 Maxxis minion front
    Sweet ride for sweet posing.

    ...and I used my strength to rip my blouse...

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    2004 Truth

    My ride
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    2001.5 Truth Candy Red powdercoat

    This bike has been da bomb! Great for tough climbs, floats over rocks and roots, and flies down hill. It's actually a 2001 frame updated with a 2002 rear end.

    Romic
    Fox F100X
    XTR
    Easton bar/post
    Odi Rogue lockon grips
    WTB Rocket Laser Seat
    Ritchey WCS stem
    CrossMaxSL
    Conti Vert Pros

    Here's a picture just after if was born, still clean!

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    Here's the picture....

    Ok, let's try to get that picture uploaded...
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    One more try

    I'll try this again since I screwed up the pic last time. Again, the Down-tube Guard is great for these things considering the thickness of the tubes and the kind of riding I do.
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    ... and if we just ... My old bike....

    Could this be quite possibly the world's most famous Ellsworth?<p>
    <img src="http://www.teamtwentyfour.com/!html_email/DCP_0002.JPG"><p>
    <b> It's located in here.....</b>
    <p><img src="http://www.teamtwentyfour.com/!html_email/DCP_0006.JPG">

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    ... and if we just ... My new bike....

    <img src="http://www.teamtwentyfour.com/!html_email/DCP_0014.JPG">

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    saddle?

    Hi, what kinda saddle do you sit on? Also, where'd you get that rig holding your battery on the seat post. It's pretty neat. Keep on ridin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtblife
    Hi, what kinda saddle do you sit on? Also, where'd you get that rig holding your battery on the seat post. It's pretty neat. Keep on ridin!
    The saddle is a Flite SLR. Light & minimalist, but comfortable. It's more popular with the roadies than it is with mountain bikers.

    The battery holder is simply 2 machined aluminium clamps (these are available at most bike shops.....a lot of Trek bikes like the Y-Foil used to come with them). They allow you to bolt up any standard water bottle cage on the seatpost. There is also an optional bracket that allows 2 cages to be installed at 45degree angles....sorta like the triathletes use behind their saddles.
    Last edited by TeamTwentyFour; 02-13-2004 at 08:24 PM.

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    Id

    2003 15" frame...
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    here it is, but...

    the wheels fell off of it again
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    Good job! whoaaa....an Ellsworth "Ski Bike"??

    Pretty cool!

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    Wink thanks, the wheels fell off...

    and to top it all off... tony won't warrenty it either!

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    Here is my new Truth

    :d :d :d :d :d :d
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    My new bike!

    My new 03 Joker....
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    Here is mine!
    Great Frame, Great Fork!
    Palisworth
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    My Specialist

    I've looked thorugh this thread and i was upset to only see one specialist, although it is V-Dubs. Watching Third down on my computer right now loved the Back hop drop on the dare V-dub, very nice.

    Anyway, i dont have a picture of my dare but it is a small black with dorado's and all the other neccessart stuff, i love my dare but my specialist is just so good that i hardly ride it, its fast, light and strong (and it looks the dogs!). I have it built with XTR/Saint MRP Chris king on D3.1 wheels, king headset Pyslo SL (they're the only fault, way too flexxy), thomson, etc. (sorry about the picture i used my phone, serious laziness.
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    New ride

    Check out my new ID.
    this past Saturday I did my 4th ride.

    BlanMan
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    My Id

    Hi all,
    Here is an Id from Israel with love
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    Great looking Id you got there, eOfer

    These red Id's look stunning .
    I'm sure it rides as well as it looks.

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    ... and if we just ... My Joker

    Another picture of my Joker.
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    my dare

    this is my dare 2004 fr
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    My 2000 Joker, it's for sale if any of you would like to add to your collection.

    http://marketplace.consumerreview.co...uery=retrieval
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    looks fun

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete
    Here's the Truth.





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    ride on ellsworth friend i got pic in mtbr photo big bear on the moment

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    cross country should be ridden that way

    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur
    I really enjoyed riding my truth but it was a piece. I rode it all over germany, scottland, england, france, switzerland when I lived @ Ramstein AFB Germany. The bushings were nothing but trouble in the wet rainy German weather. The chain stay cracked all the way through the yoke and the head tube cracked two weeks after I got a used chain stay from Ellsworth. It was the best pedaling suspension bike I had ever ridden and it was really stable in the front end. Durability is another issue that is supposed to be resolved in the new design. I didn't realize but I had been riding it for months with a hairline crack at the headtube. It had this creak for ever that I couldn't find until I used a magnifying glass to find it. The LBS confirmed my fear.



    if your doing anything big stop buy a 04 joker 7 or dare my truth has never failed and the way i ride (smooth) it never will

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    internal cable seatstay all the way

    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Standard shot-sorry no action shots

    Best riding FS rig I've thrown a leg over and climbs technical terrain better than a hardtail.

    Things I would change:
    1. Put a real headtube badge on all frames, not a sticker and then charge $10 for one on your website.
    2. Brake line guides-a must!
    3. Get rid of the internal cable routing on the rear-end, its a hassle getting the cable thru the hole and you can't remove the housing from the stops to clean the cable.

    I love riding this bike, so much so that I had a hard time riding my road bike last summer because the rigid rear end felt primitive compared to the high tech suspension on the Truth.
    just bend the last 1" of cable and roll it untell it finds the hole takes me a hole 2 sec do u work at a shop i do thats how i do it its easy

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    usa product do u support slaving kides

    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblur
    If I'm not mistaken my Blur also has and anodized shot peened finish and SC was using Laser etching while Ells was still using those lousy decals on the 94-00 models. It's like any thing else in the world it's expensive to engineer a frame that will last that cuts .3-.5 of pound off of it's competitors. The truth is a great bike. I loved mine before it broke. The Blur is is also great but is very different in terms of ride. What really made the difference for me was the customer service at SC and sizing. I had an offer of a $1400 crash replacement from Ells for a 2004 or I could buy a 2004 Blur for the same price. The truth tt was about 22.5 and the blur 21.6. I tried shorter stems and moving my seat all the way forward but the small truth was just too big. After getting used to the Blur's set up and having a bike that fits I don't miss back and wrist pain. So far I am not regretting changing manufacturers. The only bummer is there are so many people riding blur's, the truth was a bit more distinctive. Enjoy yours!
    ellsworth 4 bar has instant center tracking read up ellsworth all the way those who ride know been riding for years on them santa cruz sux sorry i use to have one super light or super bob

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    learn your bike

    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Why is E. forcing people to upgrade to a complete 04' frame?, my 01' front section broke last summer and they replaced it (03' front section) w/o cost and they offered to upgrade my rear section to the new 04' rocker and shock at an add. $400, which I declined, but if the new rear end will work with previous years front sections, then shouldn't the 04' front section work with previous years rear sections? Maybe they do but E. is choosing not to handle it that way, I mean replacing the broken front section w/ an 04' front section at no cost. My experience w/ them has been fine, but I know they are p...ing people off with this 04' upgrade stuff. Anyway, I think my frame will hold up fine and if it doesn't, then I will probably ask them to build me a Truth w/heavier tubing and if they won't then I will go w/something else.
    levrage ratio changed duh and did you read the warranty u should take time and really read it also u should be happy they offerd the 04 its trick plush and read reviews in mags whare the peolpe that r rateing them r real bikers not morons that bash on mtbr do u want a full sus 4 bar thats 100 % drive eff. i do your loss if u buy some thing else think before u talk ****

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    no on the ec 70

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor!
    I really like the look of your build and I like the frame colour.

    Two question - On your chainstay is that a road tube or something raped around it, or something else. It looks very neat and tidy, wouldn't mind adding that to my Truth. Second question - Is your seatpost a 350mm or longer EC70. I have the 350mm and it continually slips and I have done some damage to the post so was thinking of getting the longer one... Curious to know if you know the weight of the post?

    Sweet bike - Your girlfriend would probably spend more time on a Truth if she new how it rode!!!

    Ciao
    Trevor!
    u should not run that seat post thomson is the way straight post never lay back

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    My New Isis!

    Parts consist of,

    ' 03 Rock Shox Psylo XC, Manitou QR rear shock, Avid mechanical disc brakes, Chris King headset, Chris King ISO disc hubs, Salsa Gordo rims, Race Face Deuce stem, Race Face hanlebars and bash guard, Oury lock on grips, a mix of Shimano XT, XTR components and Maxxis High Roller Tires.

    I want to upgrade the rear shock to a coil over. Anyone have any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Greg
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    From Truth to ID

    From the ashes of my Truth rose the ID.
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