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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikemangobig
    levrage ratio changed duh and did you read the warranty u should take time and really read it also u should be happy they offerd the 04 its trick plush and read reviews in mags whare the peolpe that r rateing them r real bikers not morons that bash on mtbr do u want a full sus 4 bar thats 100 % drive eff. i do your loss if u buy some thing else think before u talk ****
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    Here's my quiver...

    Here're my rides: a '04 Truth and '04 Joker XC
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    the ID

    Nothing special, cept it's an Ellsworth
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    Hi all and greetings from Finland!

    First post for this forum. Anyway here's my trailride '04 Joker XC with Psylo SL, Hayes HFX Comp, Mavic crossland UST, XTR and Roox components.



    My other rides are On-One Inbred SS and also commuter SS based on old road frame..

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    An another greeting from Finland!

    Just got my Id 2004, needs some minor uppgrading (handlebar, pedals and a golden headset ) before its perfect.


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    They do break.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Any frame can and will break especially it it is used outside it's "intended purpose". I've been present when or personally broken many different brands. Personally, I've broken an Ellsworth, Azonic and a few Giants. I've seen Yeti, Specialized, Fisher, Trek, Turner and Santa Cruz frames break. Some were true JRA's and others were asking for the break. It is true though that alot of the early Ellsworths had some design flaws and were prone to break. I was treated very well when I called to warranty the part and had a completely redesigned swingarm in 4 days, no questions asked. I wouldn't be worried about if you are purchasing it new and as a matter of fact my next bike will be an Ellsworth.
    Ellsworths claim to fame is the lightness of the frames. Sure the frames are the lightest in the business but light frames will not be as strong or as durable as heavier ones. I have a joker 7" so I am not concerned about breakage(I hope) but I have read hundreds of posts from surprised riders who break ellsworth frames(Mostly truths and older joker/isis)while doing unremarkable normal riding. Obviously something is not right here. Maybe the newer frames will be more durable.

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    It's great when you can post your bikes for all to admire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz
    Where is the bike???

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    My Girlfriend.............................

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    My Joker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam
    This is the seventh mountain bike that I have own and by far is the best hardcore trail bike that I've ridden. It weights from 32 to 36 pounds depending on the wheel and tire selection. The onepointfive is great but not enough manufacturers make 1.5 stems and limiting options.
    Nice ride. My Joker is just under 40lbs but I still use it as a trail bike.
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    It sure is great, nice looking bikes..........

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    2004 Joker 7

    Got the kit from the guys at Bike Co., SoCal.

    Joker 7", Sherman Breakout 6", All XT, Hayes disc, Sun Singletracks w/ King/Marzocchi, Thomson, SDG, FSA bling, and Maxxis.

    It's my second Ellsworth and it rocks.
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    Joker 7

    My first full suspension bike: Joker 7, XT / Mavic wheels, SRAM drivetrain.... just need a stiffer spring for the Romic (or to lose some weight) and a Marzocchi 66 fork
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    my 02 dare
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    Heres a couple of pics of my Truth...



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    Nice rides everybody, just when you think you're special, some other s**tbag comes along and shows you up...oh well, that's mountain biking.

    Here's my 2005 Moment - took it out for a couple of rides over the weekend, and am stoked!
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    Here's mine

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    All of these nice looking Ids, Moments and Dares . Here is a 2000 Truth to mix it up.


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    ... and if we just ... My Ellsworth pride is now on...

    Hi! I'm a new user and I've seen a tread on Ellsworth bikes pictures... So is mine!
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    one still. one action.
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    My friend's ID

    Hi guys, this is my friend's ID. He has upgraded to 05 Dare.
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    One more Ellsworth from Finland. Just got this beauty yesterday, spent all night building it...Can't wait to get out of the office and go riding! Thanks to my friend Kristian for the photo!
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    Good job! Green 2001

    Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.
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    Our Group Photo

    Here's Ahimanic's wife's 2004 Mini Truth, my g/f S/C Juliana, my 2001, and Ahimanic's 2000 Truth
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    One more from Finland
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    mine

    heres my joker and my dads ID
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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead
    Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.
    I'm glad you like it but like a person with high colesterol and a heart attact genetics, don't ignore the warnings. Check it regularily for cracks at the base of the rocker pivot bracket on the seat up. There is a stress riser in that design. It's not that people have an aversion to the BIKE, it's the fact that LOTS of them break there and there and a mechanical engineering freshman can recognize the flaw there.

    ...and of course you aren't going to have problems before it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Come out of the woodwork and show us the goods. Tell us how you like it as well.

    Here's our very own Photo-John in the delivery room!
    Here's my Moment and i love it
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    My Guinness inspired Id

    Here's my Guinness inspired Id lil' Black-n-Tan combo.

    seems my bikes are fighting for my attention, and the Singlespeeds are getting a little more love here lately...
    this is the Id's latest config with the newly replaced chainstay and new AM1. cheers
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    Epiphany....

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Come out of the woodwork and show us the goods. Tell us how you like it as well.

    Here's our very own Photo-John in the delivery room!
    Here is 'clean':



    Here is after the latest adventure:


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    Looking back thru this thread, there were a lot of Ells owners that don't post on here anymore...a whole lot of Jokers, Truths, Ids and Dares...where have you guys gone?

    I recognize a few who are now on the Turner boards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Looking back thru this thread, there were a lot of Ells owners that don't post on here anymore...a whole lot of Jokers, Truths, Ids and Dares...where have you guys gone?

    I recognize a few who are now on the Turner boards...
    Chad, don't go digg'n where there's a powerline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahimanic
    Chad, don't go digg'n where there's a powerline!
    LOL, that's funny...

    I'd just like to see some more participation over here...I know the bike owners are out there, but I think they got a bit turned off and never came back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    LOL, that's funny...

    I'd just like to see some more participation over here...I know the bike owners are out there, but I think they got a bit turned off and never came back...
    People come and go, get busy doing other stuff.

    Do you know how to set up a sticky for an Epiphany database? Or to insert it into the existing database? We need one with all the new Epiphany owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahimanic
    People come and go, get busy doing other stuff.

    Do you know how to set up a sticky for an Epiphany database? Or to insert it into the existing database? We need one with all the new Epiphany owners.
    I think this has to be done by a Moderator. Trevor is/was our mod. I think.

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    We ride!

    Maybe Ellsworth riders actually ride their bikes and don't just sit around talking about it on the internet! It is also possible that people get tired of all the childish crap that goes on on these boards. How many trolls try to stir stuff up? What about all the arm-chair engineers arguing about one bikes design over the other? I think many just enjoy riding and like avoid all this extra BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonz
    When photoshoping a hot chick next to your bike, besides noting noise, focus, light sources, shadow, and that her right arm seems to be cut off; always remember a thing called SCALE!!!!

    I'm sure she's petite in real life, but compared to your dare she's like 3 feet tall!!!

    D@M she's HOT thought...

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    weeee-HAW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenamin
    Mine:
    Good to see another fellow Coloradoan about!

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    Sweet dude!

    You're shorter than I expected, though. Perhaps you'll grow into it soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Sweet dude!

    You're shorter than I expected, though. Perhaps you'll grow into it soon...


    unfortunately, he's the only one that can appreciate the bike right now. i had to fly out to portland for most of the week and leave my new bike hanging in the garage.

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    never posted a pic of here before
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    ignorance is bliss

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikemangobig
    ellsworth 4 bar has instant center tracking read up ellsworth all the way those who ride know been riding for years on them santa cruz sux sorry i use to have one super light or super bob
    There's no doubt that Ells makes a great riding bike, but to blatanly overlook the companies frame failures and scores of unhappy customers is just blind. Santa Cruz makes great bikes along with many other manufacturers. If effeciency were the only standard by which one rated bikes then Ells might be in the top 5, but there are so many other categories in which you rank frame builders. If effeciency is your only category buy a HT. I have read up on Ells and suffered through a really unreliable bike that spent as much time being repaired as ridden.

    Honestly I feel for me my Blur is a better bike than the Truth I owned. I really liked my truth's ride and weight, I just don't miss all the hassle and poor service which I hear Ells has improved. There are choices that work for different people, and that's great. I don't race and I ride alot of 20-40kms of single track that is technical. I find the blur to suit me better in steep terrain, so there's nothing to be sorry about, I got into a completely reliable bike that helps me spend more time on the trail and fits and rides better for me. Blanket GM union worker type statments about other companies isn't really helpful to the discussion and shows a pretty subjective understanding of the bike world.
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    Just before I took her out of the shop!

    This bike is amazing I can not say enought words about how tight she runs!
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    Digging up and replying to a post that is over 2 years old?

    Perhaps you should look at how Ellsworth is performing today.

    Everybody has their share of problems. I personally know of two Blurs that had the linkage bolts snap and one of them was out of the showroom floor for less than 3 weeks.

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    reminds me.............GO FOR A RIDE!!!!!!!!!

    she now has roco-ti and xt 755s w/ goodridge lines and many other little upgrades
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    My Moment. Had it about 3 months
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    Paint job on that frame is very cool,I love the grey ! what size frame ?
    The Trail Never Ends.

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    It is a large frame, 19.

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    My Joker built up XC/AM style (30.5lbs)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SprocketHead
    Well, here's my 2001 Truth. Although there seems to be a sense of aversion to this bike, I love it. It's been nothing but solid reliability and fun for me.

    I would kill to have this color available on newer Truths,Green is my fave color for a bike,in fact my last two full sussy's were a shade of green,a Proflex 753 and a Fat Chance SAB.
    I would go with a brand new 06 IF that color,or something very close was available.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    Ellsworth Dare 2006 Blue / L size
    Magura Gustav M 210,190
    888 RC2X
    MRP System 3
    ..and so on...
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    2007 Ellsworth Epiphany:
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    Here's mine.
    2008 truth, size large
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    Fun lookn bike!

    After seeing this pic, i cannot help but think of what Timberr would comment:

    Just took a good look at that truth and all I can say is "HOLY FRIGGIN SEATPOST".

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    HI guys,

    I ride this one for over a year now


    it sits at 9319g right now, hope you like it ;-)

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    Who makes that fork?

    Quote Originally Posted by marecej
    HI guys,

    I ride this one for over a year now


    it sits at 9319g right now, hope you like it ;-)


    What fork is that? Nice bike....
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    it's a German:A force kilo 1.2
    http://www.german-a.de/en/

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    Hi guys,
    here is my rogue, "enduro" setup, 15.5kg.

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    Nice, enjoy.

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    Here's Mine:
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    My Ellsworths:

    08 Tiruth
    07 Epiphany
    08 Moment
    06 Rogue
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    "Curb drops to flat, or curb drops to transition? There's a BIG difference there." Qfactor03

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    not mine but

    I rode this today, killer ride, more xc than my bike but so much better than my old truth and the Id I tested a few years ago. If I need a replacement this might just be it.
    Second test ride today and I played with the rear shock settings with a more scientific bent. Not a bad backdrop though huh? Great day out, mid 80s 20mph warm winds on Jan 14th.
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    Impressive. Which one gets the most time in the saddle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.N.G
    Impressive. Which one gets the most time in the saddle?

    Thanks. I spend the most time on the Epi and Moment. The Rogue is only used for resort riding or shuttle rides. I've only had the Tiruth a few months, so it's only been on 2-3 rides.
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    New set-up
    Fork,Rear shock,Brakes,Shadow RD,MRP Chain guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei
    My Ellsworths:

    06 Rogue
    That rogue is gorgeous.

    one of the best builds i have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nsynk
    That rogue is gorgeous.

    one of the best builds i have seen.

    Thanks

    I love the Rogue.
    Kokopelli Racing

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    old dare

    still takes a beating
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    Damned i remember time when i wanted one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDE-ON
    still takes a beating
    Interesting. How did you remove the lettering on your frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tburger
    Interesting. How did you remove the lettering on your frame?
    a razor works well

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDE-ON
    a razor works well
    For laser etching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixMastaMM
    For laser etching?
    they where decals

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    Joker XC

    This is my new Ellsworth. This build started out as Red ISIS brand new left over stock from a bike shop. Once I received it there were alignment problems. I sent the frame/swing arm back and it was confirmed that there was an alignment problem. So Ellsworth sent me a new JokerXC/Swing arm. I was a bit disappointed that I did not end up with the ISIS but after about 150miles I cant be happier. I built it for durability with some weight considerations, it really feels solid but rolls slower than my other bikes (probably tires).



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    Nice!

    James-how do you like your moment?

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    The moment is my favorite. It's the only one I ride anymore.

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    Finally,

    Been waiting a while to do this.

    Here is my new ride
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    Here's my Project Rainforest Epiphany being ridden like its stolen:

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    holy crap that moment is sweet. Nice ride nsynk, have you worked it in yet?
    let us know what you think.
    I *should* finish mine tomorrow, (still waiting on a stinger), and take for its first shakedown.

    A weight with that caliber build would be cool to know, It's about time there were some more moments with chain tensioners too!

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    Thanks primefocus,
    Been out a handfull of times, deliberately picking places that I felt underbiked on my ID.

    Still trying to get the shocks set up but first impressions are it is an amazing bike. It seems to excell at steep rocky shutes, not in a bulldozer kind of way but in a smooth finessed sort of way.

    It is a drag on long fire roads and tight switchbacks but I am amazed at how well it climbs technical rock sections. There is one rocky climb section that took me several rides to master on my ID but I cleaned it straight away on the moment.

    It is stable at speed, corners well, manuals and pops off the jumps really easily.and encourages you to try anything, in fact some of those sections that i felt pleased to just survive on the ID i now feel overbiked on on the moment, they now seem so tame I am looking for bigger challanges!

    The only thing it seems not to be good at is slow, trials like section such as ladders etc but nor am I so that may just be my lack of skill in that area.

    Weight wise, standing on my bathroom scales and deducting my weight (not very scientific) I reckon it is about 34lb maybe a touch under. To be honest that is a bit heavier than I expected, despite it being built for durability. I reckon there is about 5lb excess in the tyres, seatpost,vented discs and chain device when compared to the sub 29lb builds I see listed. I am happy enough with the weight, it is still 5lb lighter than my DH bike.

    Can't wait to take it to the alps in the summer, it will be in its element (and so will I)

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    Before you scroll down: as far as I know, hell did not freeze over when i mounted the fork, nor did I get struck by lightning. Feels awesome on the bike though. My main riding buddy has a 36 talas, he digs it too.



    That is awesome to hear man, good luck getting it dialed. I had a similar experience when I got mine together and out for the first time today. The bike fits great, a little long but that's why I wanted a medium over a large. I'm 5' 11.5", 160-165 pounds, the spring on there now (TIMBERRR's Pushed DHX 5.0) is a 500 pound spring. I'm getting 15mm of sag (26% of 57mm), so the back end felt pretty poopy. Anyone think 450lb will be enough change? I'm guessing it will.
    Anyway it really climed great (I have been pedlin' a 40+ pounder lately though), the firm spring helped i'm sure but traction was good. I did have to pay more attention on skinnies but the bike really takes to the air easily. I'll give a whole review when I get it dialed but its still a blast as it is. Haven't had it to a shop to weigh it in but I got 32.5 lbs. from a hanging spring scale, its prob a little more though.

    I want your wheels nsynk!
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    That's beautyful!!!

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    That's sweet, it just screams FAST

    Never seen the spech fork on anything other than a spech, looks good.

    I am guessing it weighs in a bit lighter than my set up.

    What do you reckon the fork has done to the angles? isn't the spec fork a tiny bit shorter than an equivalent fox?

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    Thanks for looking! It was a fun build.
    The fork is 150mm; I believe the a2c is 535mm and a 2009 36 (160) is 545 (someone correct me if i'm wrong). Leelikesbikes has said in the past that there is .75" difference between the two though. So the HA is a touch steeper, prob ~half a degree or so, but it felt great on the first ride, time will tell....

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    the 535mm for the e150 was from my own measurement btw, but I think i read a similar number a while back.

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    Pick up closeout 2010 factory Epi....gone through plenty of bikes through my years, but still dig Ells. Spec small Epi SST-1, X9 factory build. I am about 5'5" 29 inseam frame just right, Ells runs their frames on the taller side. San Diego trails only, noble canyon, daily ranch, la costa and good old hodges Demo'd a few other makers but this seems to be the perfect bike for my style of riding. Hopefully get some Gopro video up soon
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    Great thread

    It's cool to look back and see the "evolution" (pun intended) of Ellsworth.
    This is mine at Daleys just a few days ago. Love my Truth but wish I had an Epi.
    Need more travel for the San Diego area.



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    2007 Moment

    Before
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    Changes:
    Wheels - Flows
    Fork - 55RC3
    Shock - Float
    Cranks - Atlas FR
    Pedals - Deity
    Bars - Deity Dirty 30's

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    Just picked up my 2012 Evolve sst.2

    Fox front and back
    XTR everything
    Thompson seatpost and stem
    Loaded carbon bar
    Crossmark 2.1 29er tires
    Avid BB7's brakes

    Took it on the virgin ride today and loved it!

    Despite the fact that I cant get the picture to show right side up....

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    "A flute with no holes, is not a flute. A donut with no hole, is a Danish." - Zen philosopher Basha

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    Love my Ellsworths!

    I currently have 6 Ellsworths of diffrent forms, looks like I maybe selling 2 of them to a couple riding buddies, kinda sad, but it gives me some room and money to get my next Ellsworth! An Evolve or Evolution. Not sure what one yet, going to ride both to see what I like better. Any one else ride both and have an opinion? Anyway here are a couple pics of my rides on the trails.

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    Pivot Bearings

    Ellsworth's rear suspension relies on pivot bearings.

    If these bearings are not rolling smooth, corroded or slightly seized, then the frame takes the beating instead of transferring the forces to the shock.

    Newer Ellsworths no longer have the Pivot Gusset that saw breakage where they were welded to the seat tube.

    So check your bearings, or replace them. A set is like $30 from Enduro.

    I broke a 2007 Truth in April and got "The Bearing Lecture" from Diego in the Ellsworth Warranty Dept. They were gracious enough to send a 2012 Truth SST.2.

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    07 Truth

    2007 Truth the day it was ready to ride in 2007. I chopped no wood that day!
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    2012 Truth SST.2

    That blue frame above broke in April 2011. Ellsworth sent this 2012 SST.2 Truth. It is Smoked color under all the dust from the first ride.
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    2011

    i am amazed how well this bike climbs ,, overall, im still trying to get it dialed in, just waiting for the shock to be sent back to me.
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    Some beautiful bikes in here for sure.

    I need some help. Does anyone know the proper bolt sizes used in the rear triangle of an '08 Epiphany?

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