Rogue Setup Data Base

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  • 02-27-2006
    ahimanic
    Rogue Setup Data Base
    I'm setting up this new thread for the Rogue owners and I borrowed the setup format from Trail Advent's data base threads. Once owners have posted here I will ask our moderator, Trevor!, to make this a link that can be accessed within the "Es Setup, Data Base, FAQ" sticky thread.
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    [SIZE=5]Rogue setup data base[/SIZE] (All Mountain, 6-7-8 inch rear travel)

    Rogue owners to post! Potential owners to view & compare, gain insight etc!

    Also "no flames please" you can do that on other posts or create a new one if you need to vent, this is an information data base to assist not to attack or hinder, so hopefully we will get some great info.

    Use the link creator to your pics if posted elswhere on the E board helps speed things up

    * Riding terrain conditions: *

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc*

    * Frame, Size, & Color:
    * Fork:
    * Shock, i2i, stroke
    * Brakes:
    * Cranks:
    * Shifters:
    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:
    * Stem:
    * Handlebar:
    * Seatpost:
    * Saddle:
    * Bottom Bracket:
    * Cassette:
    * Chain:
    * Headset:
    * Grips:
    * Front Tire:
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire:
    * Rear Rim:
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:
    * Future UGI:
    * Pics http://

    Enjoy & post away!
  • 02-27-2006
    LiorDrZ
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    My Ellsworth Rogue
    * Riding terrain conditions: * All kind

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc* Height 1.70M = 5.577ft, Weight 190lb, Ride Style Aggressive trail riding with light FR

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 16 Smoke finish
    * Fork: Marzocchi 66 Light ETA 170MM
    * Shock, i2i, stroke Fox DHX 5.0 Coil 8" travel 8.75" X 2.80" spring 400
    * Brakes: Shimano XTR with 8" rotors front & rear
    * Cranks: Shimano Saint 175 24/36 with E13 bash guard
    * Shifters: [/COLOR]Shimano XT
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano XTR
    * Pedals: Flats Xpedo TI
    * Stem: Syncros 40MM
    * Handlebar: Answer Pro Taper
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    * Saddle: SDG Bell Air SL
    * Bottom Bracket: Shimano Saint
    * Cassette:Shimano XTR
    * Chain:Shimano XTR
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: ODI Lock on grips
    * Front Tire: WTB Timberwolf 2.5 – Tubeless
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Mavic EX 729 with Wheel Smith Spokes
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hadley front 20MM - Red
    * Rear Tire: WTB Timberwolf 2.5 – Tubeless
    * Rear Rim: Mavic EX 729 with Wheel Smith Spokes
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hadley rear 12MM - Red
    * Cables: Avid - Flak Jacket cable
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 17.6KG = 38.8lb
    * Future UGI: Lighter 7" Fork with ETA when available, Saddle WTB Pure V White-Sil /Ti Rails
    * Pics http:// http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=168236
  • 02-27-2006
    Septentrion
    My Rogue
    * Riding terrain conditions: * All kind

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc* 1m80, 85 Kg, agressive trails, DH.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 18 black anodized
    * Fork: Fox 36 Van R
    * Shock, i2i, stroke Fox DHX 5.0 titanium 450 coil
    * Brakes: Hope mono M4 180 mm float
    * Cranks: Race face Deus XC with MRP bashguard
    * Shifters: Sram X9
    * Front Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Pedals: Crank Brothers 5050 X
    * Stem: Thomson Elite X4 0x50mm
    * Handlebar: FSA FR 270
    * Seatpost: Thomson elite
    * Saddle: SDG bel air RL
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Deus X type
    * Cassette: Shimano XT
    * Chain: Sram
    * Headset: Chris King no threadset
    * Grips: ODI lock on
    * Front Tire: Kenda Kinetics 2.35
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss EX 5.10 DT Swiss super comp spokes
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope pro 2 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Kinetics 2.35
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX 5.10
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope pro 2
    * Cables: Hope and Quality
    * Misc: Hope handlebar plugs
    * Overall Weight: 15,2 Kg
    * Future UGI:
    * Pics : http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2...dium8gz.th.jpg
  • 03-01-2006
    Arm@ndo
    Nice setup, guys... bikes look awesome.

    Say, how do you like those Crank Bros. pedals ?
    That's an interesting design for sure...
  • 03-04-2006
    breggurns
    OMG THAT IS MY NEW DREAM BIKE. I just made it my wallpaper NICE JOB.
  • 08-12-2006
    UP Dude
    I want it
    [QUOTE=Septentrion]* Riding terrain conditions: * All kind

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc* 1m80, 85 Kg, agressive trails, DH.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 18 black anodized
    * Fork: Fox 36 Van R
    * Shock, i2i, stroke Fox DHX 5.0 titanium 450 coil
    * Brakes: Hope mono M4 180 mm float
    * Cranks: Race face Deus XC with MRP bashguard
    * Shifters: Sram X9
    * Front Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Pedals: Crank Brothers 5050 X
    * Stem: Thomson Elite X4 0x50mm
    * Handlebar: FSA FR 270
    * Seatpost: Thomson elite
    * Saddle: SDG bel air RL
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Deus X type
    * Cassette: Shimano XT
    * Chain: Sram
    * Headset: Chris King no threadset
    * Grips: ODI lock on
    * Front Tire: Kenda Kinetics 2.35
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss EX 5.10 DT Swiss super comp spokes
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope pro 2 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Kinetics 2.35
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX 5.10
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope pro 2
    * Cables: Hope and Quality
    * Misc: Hope handlebar plugs
    * Overall Weight: 15,2 Kg


    Wow, I like this bike. Makes me want to ditch the Moment and move all the parts to a Rogue. 33.5 lbs ain't bad at all!

    Nice bike :thumbsup:
  • 08-12-2006
    Steve from JH
    I predict that Deus crank set on Septentrion's bike is not going to last long.
  • 08-12-2006
    UP Dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve from JH
    I predict that Deus crank set on Septentrion's bike is not going to last long.

    Because of the product quality or because of it's intended use?

    I've been running XC cranks for a long time (XT, RF Next LP, FSA carbon). I've subjected them to freeride conditions normally reserved for beefier cranks and I've never bent or broken an arm and the bearings last as long as they should (knock on wood). I've toned down the freeriding this season (crashing hurts), and feel more than comfortable on carbon cranks, even though I'm still riding rough trails and doing some light freeride.

    I think the abuse given to a crank set is largely depended on riding style. If you are riding tech trails/DH and some light freeride, and don't ride like a goon, light cranks (especially with the larger external bearings) do just fine. :D
  • 08-12-2006
    Steve from JH
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by UP Dude
    Because of the product quality or because of it's intended use?

    I've been running XC cranks for a long time (XT, RF Next LP, FSA carbon). I've subjected them to freeride conditions normally reserved for beefier cranks and I've never bent or broken an arm and the bearings last as long as they should (knock on wood). I've toned down the freeriding this season (crashing hurts), and feel more than comfortable on carbon cranks, even though I'm still riding rough trails and doing some light freeride.

    I think the abuse given to a crank set is largely depended on riding style. If you are riding tech trails/DH and some light freeride, and don't ride like a goon, light cranks (especially with the larger external bearings) do just fine. :D

    I destroyed a set of Deus cranks in less than a season on my Id. And I ride like an old crippled geezer--maybe because I am one.

    I'm now on the next beefier Race Face cranks and they're holding up fine. Race Face says the Deus is for XC racing only.

    Are you still planning on coming out to Jackson Hole?
  • 08-13-2006
    Septentrion
    Hi,
    I'm back from a week in les 2 Alpes France and so far my Deus is Ok.
    I just destroyed the DT 5.1 rims too light and replaced them by 729 Mavic far better.
    I'll also replace the 36 Van by a RS Totem ASAP in order to raise the BB a bit cause I hurt the ground with pedals too often and I can say know that a 170-180mm fork is much more appropriate to the Rogue as it is mentionned on Ells site. The BB height with a 36 is 335mm wich is definitely too low.
  • 08-13-2006
    UP Dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Septentrion
    Hi,
    The BB height with a 36 is 335mm wich is definitely too low.

    What size shock/travel mode are you running? The Ells website is claiming a 13.9" (or 350mm) BB height in 7" mode and a 7" fork, and a 14.75" (375mm) height in 8" mode w/ 8" fork. I thought I remember reading that you are running in 8" mode, so I would expect your BB height to be plenty high, even with the 36.

    I'm curious because I am entertaining the idea of building a Rogue next year with a lightweight build similar to yours to up the ante from my Moment. I was planning on doing it with a Cane Creek Double Barrel since they make a size that can give the 8" mode geometry, but have the 7" of actual travel. I wanted to do that because I want the shorter travel but I don't want the BB to drop too far with the smaller shock. I also have a Fox 36, so I'm interested in your experiences with your set up. Thanks!
  • 08-14-2006
    Septentrion
    Hi, I have a DHX 5, 8.75 x 2.80, (the same as LiorDrZ)
    The Van is more a 6.3" (160mm) fork, indeed with a 7" you should reach 350mm in BB height. ;), maybe LiorDrz could help and give us its BB height with a 66.
  • 08-15-2006
    LiorDrZ
    Someone called me?? :D very long time since I've been here...
    My BB height with the zucchi 66 is 355mm
  • 08-15-2006
    UP Dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LiorDrZ
    Someone called me?? :D very long time since I've been here...
    My BB height with the zucchi 66 is 355mm

    Wow! I am shocked and amazed at how low the BB's are. I never realized how much of a factor the fork height is in BB height.

    I'm getting pretty stoked on a Rogue frame w/ a Double Barrel (8.75"x2.5") for the ideal geometry and travel. I'll probably just move all of my Moment parts over, and end up with a 33lb build. I rode the Rogue w/ a 36 at interbike last fall, and hoping to again next month. It felt really good then, but I'll have a better comparison after riding my Moment for a season. The test ride will be the ultimate deciding factor.

    Ahhh, these damn machines. How come I just can't be happy with what I have? Always gotta have more :D
  • 08-15-2006
    UP Dude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve from JH
    Are you still planning on coming out to Jackson Hole?


    I sent you a private message, just in case you've missed it.
  • 08-16-2006
    Septentrion
    Damn right, and a 350mm bb height mini will be fine for me (Thanks for info), hell of a cost too for 2 cm... But the Totem will be awesome in galvanized on a black Rogue :)
  • 08-16-2006
    LiorDrZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Septentrion
    The BB height with a 36 is 335mm wich is definitely too low.

    that's not too low... did you tried the Heckler it's lower then that...
  • 08-26-2006
    lankymanc
    Hi

    It's finally arrived and I've spent a few greasy hours building it...

    Riding terrain conditions: *

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc*

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Black, Large
    * Fork: Boxxer Team
    * Shock, i2i, stroke DHX-5, 2.75
    * Brakes: Hayes HFX-9 HD
    * Cranks: Raceface evolve DH + DRS
    * Shifters: XT
    * Front Derailleur: XT
    * Rear Derailleur: XT
    * Pedals: 737
    * Stem: Easton vice
    * Handlebar: EA70 - Monkeybar 31.8
    * Seatpost: EA50
    * Saddle: SDG-Ti
    * Bottom Bracket: Shimano (Raceface's x-type lasted 3 months!)
    * Cassette: XT
    * Chain: SRAM
    * Headset: Chris-Bling
    * Grips: Good-n-evil Raceface (big hands!)
    * Front Tire: Currently Nobby-Nic
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Sun MTX or Sun single-track
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Pro-2 Hope
    * Rear Tire: Currently Nobby Nic
    * Rear Rim: Sun S-type
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Pro-2 Hope
    * Cables: XT
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 37.5lbs (!)

    photo to follow

    It's going to get muddy tomorrow morning - can't wait...

    Cheers
    Adey
  • 08-26-2006
    lankymanc
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    Here it is....
    mmmmm.....:thumbsup:
  • 01-31-2007
    yangpei
    Rogue question
    What size is the rear wheel spacing on a Rogue. I think I read somewhere that it was 135mm with a 12 mm thruaxle. Is this correct? Would I be able to use my Mavic Deemax wheels? My Deemax currently has a QR rear, but can be switched for a bold-on rear. Thanks.
  • 01-31-2007
    Rapier
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yangpei
    What size is the rear wheel spacing on a Rogue. I think I read somewhere that it was 135mm with a 12 mm thruaxle. Is this correct? Would I be able to use my Mavic Deemax wheels? My Deemax currently has a QR rear, but can be switched for a bold-on rear. Thanks.

    Thats right, the 200 mms version uses a 135 x 12 hub,

    :)
  • 02-05-2007
    Palisworth
    I changed my Moment (after 3 Years) for these one:
    * Riding terrain conditions: * Everything
    * Rider height: 192 cm; weight: 95 Kg; Allmountain, FR (moderatly...:blush: )

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Large, Black
    * Fork: Totem 2 step
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: fox dhx5, 222mm, 400lbs
    * Brakes: formula oro 18k, Braking Rotors 200mm
    * Cranks: xtr
    * Shifters: xo trigger
    * Front Derailleur: sram
    * Rear Derailleur: sram xo
    * Pedals: 24 toast
    * Stem: Azonic shorty 65mm
    * Handlebar: easton carbon dh
    * Seatpost: thomson
    * Saddle: selle italia slr carbon
    * Bottom Bracket: xtr
    * Cassette: sram
    * Chain: sram
    * Headset: CK
    * Grips:
    * Front Tire: Schwalbe Big Betty
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Mavic X717 disc, 32 x 2mm
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Withe Industries
    * Rear Tire: Schwalbe Big Betty
    * Rear Rim: Mavic xm 317
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hadley black
    * Cables: XTR
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 16, 4 Kg

    http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7944/dsc02545xs0.jpg
    http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8332/dsc02548qb2.jpg
    http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1011/dsc02542pf0.jpg
  • 02-05-2007
    chad1433
    That is one sweet ride! I dig the decidedly XC saddle in combo with 8" of super buttery plushness...nice.:thumbsup:
  • 02-16-2007
    yangpei
    My Rogue
    I just picked up a lightly used 06 Rogue and built it up:

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc* - 5'10", 175lbs

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Large black
    * Fork: Marzocchi 66 RC2X
    * Shock, i2i, stroke Fox DHX Coil
    * Brakes: Hayes hydraulic 8in rotors
    * Cranks: Race Face Evolve DH forged
    * Shifters: SRAM X9
    * Front Derailleur: SRAM X-gen
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: Shimano
    * Stem: Race Face Diabolus
    * Handlebar: Easton EA 70 DH
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    * Saddle: Terry Fly
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face FR/DH
    * Cassette: SRAM
    * Chain: SRAM
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: ODI Ruffian
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Azonic Outlaw (but Hadley / Mavic 823 custom set on the way)
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Minion DHR
    * Rear Rim: Azonic Outlaw (Hadley / Mavic 823 on order)
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:
    * Pics to follow
  • 02-19-2007
    yangpei
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    Rogue pics
    Got the Rogue built up. The Hadley / Mavic 823 wheels should be here is a week or so. Can't wait to try it out.